Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 120: A Nationally Lampooned Vacation

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MrGreenonion posted...

Skyridge87 posted...

I'm surprised no one's commented on the Trump chicken

https://twitter.com/FattMernandez/status/895421900746145792

There's really nothing left to say

Wow is this shitty.

1) Insulting and mocking an 11 year old kid in spite of the fact he's literally done nothing.

And, worse than that

2) "some where"? Extra gross.
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it's making fun of the fictional version of Barron who thought Kathy Griffin really cut her dad's head off, not the real kid.
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Corrik posted...

Any thoughts on this?

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/09/suddenly-less-popular-than-trump-frances-macron-gets-schooled.html

There are like eight things I hate about this article but I'm on my phone and copy pasting is too hard.

Some of them off the top of my head:
1) absolutely no reason to bring up the age difference
2) says something like "oh he thought he was too smart and the people he was addressing were too dumb". There's no source for that, because of course there's not - no politician would ever say anything resembling that
3) "no apple for teacher" what egregiously bad writing holy shit
4) "look how terrible he is polling!" He is two points behind trump using their own metric, a dude this same network goes through great lengths to build up
5) they don't explain what it would mean to be First Lady of France i.e. what duties that would entail and what salary she'd draw (if any). The First Lady here is largely ceremonial but can take on certain pet projects and no one complains, so I don't know what the difference would be in France.

I guess it doesn't surprise me he is disliked - he is a novice politican (like Trump) that didn't come in with major political allies and only won because both of the major parties imploded in France due to corruption scandals (which his cabinet seems to be keeping in the tradition of!). Horribly written article though, jeez.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

it's making fun of the fictional version of Barron who thought Kathy Griffin really cut her dad's head off, not the real kid.

To everyone upset by this tweet. *Clears throat* Kids, like opinions, only matter to the people they belong to.

Also I can't feel sympathy for millionaires. Like physically, I'm not capable.

I think he might just be kind of a jerk.
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Also that doesn't excuse the "some where".

Let's not forget that.
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valid point
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

it's making fun of the fictional version of Barron who thought Kathy Griffin really cut her dad's head off, not the real kid.

do you have the inside scoop on barron's preferred pronouns???

whoa if true
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the "her" refers to Tiffany. I'm always talking about Tiff.
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Can an opinion piece really be called "journalism"?
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Really enlightening podcast on both North Korea (with Ben Rhodes) and the Magnitsky Act (with Bill Browder, the guy who pushed to have it passed in the first place):

https://art19.com/shows/pod-save-the-world/episodes/674e9b5b-eb2a-44d3-b255-a2af3a707033

The background of the Magnitsky Act is jaw dropping. Hopefully one day Putin will be brought to justice (or at the very least have all of his assets seized by the West).
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TheRock1525 posted...

A new series from the creators of Trump criticizing Trump.

Jill Stein is a Tool.

hillary's foreign policy ideas were unbelievably terrible too, though.

this is like saying "jill stein was saying poop is worse than vomit, while actually it's the other way around! what a tool!" yeah, she was wrong, but calling her a "tool" over this is a bit much. once again, i can't comprehend why people are unreasonably harsh to stein so often.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

hillary's foreign policy ideas were unbelievably terrible too, though.

Not really.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

hillary's foreign policy ideas were unbelievably terrible too, though.

They really weren't (and they sure as fuck weren't in the "potentially starting a nuclear war in a dick waving contest" range).

People shit on Stein because she deliberately lied and claimed that Clinton was more dangerous than Trump (something she assuredly did not actually believe) so she could pick up votes. She absolutely deserves it.
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lol

yeah, no point in arguing with you guys if you had no problems with hillary's foreign policy.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

lol

yeah, no point in arguing with you guys if you had no problems with hillary's foreign policy.

Having problems with it =/= it's unbelievably terrible.

Like I'm sure combing through all her positions I'll find a decent amount I'll disagree with, but this is in comparison to Trump's foreign policy plans which includes stuff like:

Giving other countries that don't have nuclear weapons said weapons.
Using said nuclear weapons as a standard military option.
Torturing and murdering families of terrorists.
Muslim Bans.
Etc.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Mr Lasastryke posted...

hillary's foreign policy ideas were unbelievably terrible too, though.

Not really.

Her policy would have been war with russia if she held to it.
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Far prefer Trump's foreign policy to Hillary's. Probably better than Bernie in this area too. And Jill Stein.
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Trump's foreign policy is reminiscent of Nixon- practical and unfettered by ideology, while talking like a scary ideologue to gain leverage. Hopefully, we'll see the same good results down the road.
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red sox 777 posted...

Far prefer Trump's foreign policy to Hillary's. Probably better than Bernie in this area too. And Jill Stein.

Ah yes, the guy who straight up admitted that he didn't understand Asian geopolitics until China sat his ass down and gave him an introduction. The guy who has our allies questioning every promise and pact we've ever agreed to. The guy who is trying to just do the opposite of whatever his predecessor did. You say unfettered by ideology, but what you actually mean is unfettered by any recognizable or coherent political ideology.
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War with North Korea seems inevitable at this point unless the United States plans to just admit they are not as powerful as they once were.

I am gonna do it and blame Obama for this by allowing it to get to this point where North Korea has a nuclear arsenal.

This is exactly what I meant beforehand how out President acted so weak and let other countries continue to get bolder and bolder.
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Yeah we shoulda just nuked them during the Korean war
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They shoulda been dealt with years ago.
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In other news, the guy who was suspended from fox for sending lewd texts to female colleagues is suing the Huffpost reporter who did the investigating, not Huffpost itself. He's being represented by the same law firm that dear leader uses. I figure it'll be a hard case for him because he'll have to prove first that no texts of that manner have been sent, and two, that the reporter knew that he was providing false info. Discovery should be a fun time.
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red sox 777 posted...

Far prefer Trump's foreign policy to Hillary's. Probably better than Bernie in this area too. And Jill Stein.

not sure if he's better than hillary but i disagree with him being better than bernie and i STRONGLY disagree with him being better than stein. i far prefer stein's ideas on dealing with ISIS to trump's brute force "LET'S BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF THEM WHO CARES ABOUT THE THOUSANDS OF CIVILIAN DEATHS LOL" method. and stein would have never, ever impulsively sent a bunch of missiles to syria because her daughter was crying about some news report.
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The problem with Stein is that I'm pretty sure she's as much of a Russian puppet as Trump, if not moreso.
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Peace___Frog posted...

In other news, the guy who was suspended from fox for sending lewd texts to female colleagues is suing the Huffpost reporter who did the investigating, not Huffpost itself. He's being represented by the same law firm that dear leader uses. I figure it'll be a hard case for him because he'll have to prove first that no texts of that manner have been sent, and two, that the reporter knew that he was providing false info. Discovery should be a fun time.

Oh hey, I might get to do work with some of this then.
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I read now that it's the former firm they used: Marc Kasowitz's firm is representing Bolling, to clarify.
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Trump retweeted this poll

https://twitter.com/progresspolls/status/893558108064239616


Totally not obsessed with Obama. Not obsessed. You're obsessed!
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

red sox 777 posted...

Far prefer Trump's foreign policy to Hillary's. Probably better than Bernie in this area too. And Jill Stein.

not sure if he's better than hillary but i disagree with him being better than bernie and i STRONGLY disagree with him being better than stein. i far prefer stein's ideas on dealing with ISIS to trump's brute force "LET'S BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF THEM WHO CARES ABOUT THE THOUSANDS OF CIVILIAN DEATHS LOL" method. and stein would have never, ever impulsively sent a bunch of missiles to syria because her daughter was crying about some news report.

The US is not really doing much there. The main impetus is coming from Russia and Iran. Although, I guess both would still fight hard against ISIS even if Hillary had been elected. Putin would still look strong for actually dealing with ISIS while Hillary complained about Russia.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Trump retweeted this poll

https://twitter.com/progresspolls/status/893558108064239616


Totally not obsessed with Obama. Not obsessed. You're obsessed!

There was an article I saw yesterday with some quotes from ambassadors saying he constant asks if Obama put specific policies in place. Let me see...

https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/this-is-why-european-diplomats-think-donald-trump-is?utm_term=.xsGY5kwO3&bftwnews#.ewJPz0yMG

They also believe Trump’s foreign policy is chiefly driven by an obsession with unravelling Barack Obama’s policies. “It’s his only real position,” one European diplomat said. “He will ask: ‘Did Obama approve this?’ And if the answer is affirmative, he will say: ‘We don’t.’ He won’t even want to listen to the arguments or have a debate. He is obsessed with Obama.”
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Lol BuzzFeed
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I mean, you can lol Buzzfeed if you want, but they're direct quotes.
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trdl23 posted...

Lol BuzzFeed

Uh, Buzzfeed's actual journalism department is "pretty legit"

The clickbait shit sure, but they're not a source you should dismiss just off the name.
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Sounds like the European diplomats are salty that Trump doesn't want to be their friend. And probably, that two big elections went against them in 2016.
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Yup, that's it. That's why he has to ask if Obama did it first.
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https://twitter.com/loudobbs/status/895437775838650369

Remember when SephG was singing Mitch's praises for shepherding the GOP?

They fucking turned on him at the drop of a hat
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http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/346000-poll-about-half-of-republicans-would-back-postponing-2020-election-if-trump?amp

This is fine
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/

Remember when people were comparing some stuff coming out of the Republican camp to fascism?
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Wow screw you jakyl </3
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Regaro posted...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/

Remember when people were comparing some stuff coming out of the Republican camp to fascism?

Yeah ibelieve that for a second
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Corrik posted...

Regaro posted...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/10/in-a-new-poll-half-of-republicans-say-they-would-support-postponing-the-2020-election-if-trump-proposed-it/

Remember when people were comparing some stuff coming out of the Republican camp to fascism?

Yeah ibelieve that for a second

Are you literally saying you believe this is fake?
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Would you believe there are Democrats who would feel the same for Obama?
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You don't believe anything unless it fits what you want to hear, corrik. You're about as close - minded as they come.
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Peace___Frog posted...

You don't believe anything unless it fits what you want to hear, corrik. You're about as close - minded as they come.

Yeah, there's definitely a pattern, here. If it's not what Corrik personally believes, it's fake/people are lying/etc.
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Regaro posted...

Wow screw you jakyl </3

To be fair, your link is better. It has the actual questions and methodology.
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HashtagSEP posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

You don't believe anything unless it fits what you want to hear, corrik. You're about as close - minded as they come.

Yeah, there's definitely a pattern, here. If it's not what Corrik personally believes, it's fake/people are lying/etc.

This is why I keep saying it's impossible to have a discussion with him. And yet people keep trying.
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Let's ask Corrik some of these questions

Do you believe there is significant voter fraud?

Do you believe millions of illegal immigrants voted?

Do you believe Donald Trump won the popular vote?
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I'd rather discuss the ramifications than jump down corrik's throat even though he's a dishonest jerkface parading around on an imaginary high horse.
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I'm not sure there really are "ramifications."

It's 1/6 of voters saying that, essentially.

It's just goofy
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The ramifications are nothing. Until they literally start assassinating members of other branches of government, they'd never come remotely close to being able to do that.
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