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Muffinz0rz 08/04/17 4:13:07 PM #1:	Keep in mind that Jay retired after this most recent season so it's not like he's old and decrepit, but he does have a broadcasting job lined up. Y N View Results Dolphins QB Tannehill is likely out for season (or at least "significant" time). Backup Matt Moore is fairly competent, but they reached out to Cutler, implying that they want someone else, not just Moore. discuss --- Not changing this sig until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) BRAVELY DEFAULT: 1075 - 0844 - 9134 + FS: Pumkaboo, Lampent, Dusclops. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:884186614] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote> Keep in mind that Jay retired after this most recent season so it's not like he's old and decrepit, but he does have a broadcasting job lined up. Y N View Results Dolphins QB Tannehill is likely out for season (or at least "significant" time). Backup Matt Moore is fairly competent, but they reached out to Cutler, implying that they want someone else, not just Moore. discuss</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 08/04/17 4:14:15 PM #2:	Because Kaepernick is a specialized one-trick pony that needs an offense molded around him versus Cutler who, despite his many detriments, is a more prototypical QB that can fit in most systems and has a helluva arm. Both are bad options, though. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:884186664] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Because Kaepernick is a specialized one-trick pony that needs an offense molded around him versus Cutler who, despite his many detriments, is a more prototypical QB that can fit in most systems and has a helluva arm. Both are bad options, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/04/17 4:15:29 PM #3:	http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/27/us/nfl-colin-kaepernick-castro-feud/index.html --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:884186732] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/27/us/nfl-colin-kaepernick-castro-feud/index.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 08/04/17 4:16:45 PM #4:	im sure it has nothing to do with gase knowing cutler and having worked with him before obviously racism --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:884186797] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>im sure it has nothing to do with gase knowing cutler and having worked with him before obviously racism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 08/04/17 4:19:15 PM #5:	K181 posted... Because Kaepernick is a specialized one-trick pony that needs an offense molded around him versus Cutler who, despite his many detriments, is a more prototypical QB that can fit in most systems and has a helluva arm. Both are bad options, though. I agree. I'd just play it out with Moore. They were a 10-6 playoff team in a wild card game against the Steelers. They were lucky enough to be in the playoffs at all. They've made it clear they want someone though, but I think it's a waste. They didn't look truly poised to take the fabled "next step" anytime soon. Damn_Underscore posted... http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/27/us/nfl-colin-kaepernick-castro-feud/index.html Sure but why should political beliefs prevent anyone from getting a job? AlephZero posted... im sure it has nothing to do with gase knowing cutler and having worked with him before IMO Cutler is a much better fit. I'm just curious as to what CE thinks. --- Not changing this sig until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) BRAVELY DEFAULT: 1075 - 0844 - 9134 + FS: Pumkaboo, Lampent, Dusclops. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:884186912] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>Because Kaepernick is a specialized one-trick pony that needs an offense molded around him versus Cutler who, despite his many detriments, is a more prototypical QB that can fit in most systems and has a helluva arm. Both are bad options, though.</quote> I agree. I'd just play it out with Moore. They were a 10-6 playoff team in a wild card game against the Steelers. They were lucky enough to be in the playoffs at all. They've made it clear they want someone though, but I think it's a waste. They didn't look truly poised to take the fabled "next step" anytime soon. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/27/us/nfl-colin-kaepernick-castro-feud/index.html</quote> Sure but why should political beliefs prevent anyone from getting a job? <cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>im sure it has nothing to do with gase knowing cutler and having worked with him before </quote> IMO Cutler is a much better fit. I'm just curious as to what CE thinks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/04/17 4:30:14 PM #6:	Miami isn't going to want to sign him --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:884187491] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Miami isn't going to want to sign him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 08/04/17 4:56:45 PM #7:	Jay Cutler is a better quarterback than Kaep. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:884188931] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Jay Cutler is a better quarterback than Kaep.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 08/04/17 4:59:39 PM #8:	AlephZero posted... im sure it has nothing to do with gase knowing cutler and having worked with him before obviously racism --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:884189091] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>im sure it has nothing to do with gase knowing cutler and having worked with him before obviously racism</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 08/04/17 5:01:18 PM #9:	Teams don't want the publicity the dude brings to the them. Why is this such a hard concept to understand? --- I'm Veggeta X's alt FFBE ID: 196 912 851 900+ ATK Orlandu <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:884189186] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Teams don't want the publicity the dude brings to the them. Why is this such a hard concept to understand?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaname_Madoka 08/04/17 5:01:45 PM #10:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Teams don't want the publicity the dude brings to the them. Why is this such a hard concept to understand? --- Drawn for me by \| Popcorn_Fairy: https://i.imgtc.com/cvSNxRT.jpg \| Volkswagen_Bros: http://i.imgur.com/86XOVXb.jpg \| ShinobiNinjaX: https://imgur.com/bPb5vEV <cite>Kaname_Madoka posted [p:884189213] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>Teams don't want the publicity the dude brings to the them. Why is this such a hard concept to understand?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 08/04/17 5:11:32 PM #11:	At this point, it's pretty clear Kap is getting black-balled. You cannot tell me with a straight face that Ryan Mallet or Blaine Gabbert or Kellen Moore or Trevone Boykin is a better quarterback than he is. Plus, the rumor is that the Ravens front office, HC John Harbaugh, and the players in general are all interested in signing Kap, but the owner is opposed. This isn't a football decision. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:884189765] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>At this point, it's pretty clear Kap is getting black-balled. You cannot tell me with a straight face that Ryan Mallet or Blaine Gabbert or Kellen Moore or Trevone Boykin is a better quarterback than he is. Plus, the rumor is that the Ravens front office, HC John Harbaugh, and the players in general are all interested in signing Kap, but the owner is opposed. This isn't a football decision.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 08/04/17 5:21:59 PM #12:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Teams don't want the publicity the dude brings to the them. Why is this such a hard concept to understand? Same reason why nobody wanted Tebow as a backup/wildcat QB. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:884190377] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>Teams don't want the publicity the dude brings to the them. Why is this such a hard concept to understand?</quote> Same reason why nobody wanted Tebow as a backup/wildcat QB.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 08/04/17 5:26:55 PM #13:	ElatedVenusaur posted... This isn't a football decision. Right, it's a business decision, one I can't really fault an owner for making. --- Sweet dreams are made of cheese Who am I to diss a brie? <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:884190604] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote>This isn't a football decision.</quote> Right, it's a business decision, one I can't really fault an owner for making.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 08/04/17 5:28:19 PM #14:	Yes only if they didn't reach out to Kaepernick at all. Bloodychess posted... ElatedVenusaur posted... This isn't a football decision. Right, it's a business decision, one I can't really fault an owner for making. Because he decided to protest, you say this. You are what's wrong with America. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:884190657] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Yes only if they didn't reach out to Kaepernick at all. <cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote>This isn't a football decision.</quote> Right, it's a business decision, one I can't really fault an owner for making.</quote> Because he decided to protest, you say this. You are what's wrong with America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 08/04/17 5:30:38 PM #15:	Cutler was one of the worst Quartbacks that had an actual career. RIP Dolphins, should get your ego in check and get CK --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:884190771] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Cutler was one of the worst Quartbacks that had an actual career. RIP Dolphins, should get your ego in check and get CK</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 08/04/17 5:32:04 PM #16:	Kineth posted... Because he decided to protest, you say this. You are what's wrong with America. I really don't care if he protests. His heart is obviously not in the game right now and I won't fault an owner for not wanting to commit to him. --- Sweet dreams are made of cheese Who am I to diss a brie? <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:884190845] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Because he decided to protest, you say this. You are what's wrong with America.</quote> I really don't care if he protests. His heart is obviously not in the game right now and I won't fault an owner for not wanting to commit to him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 08/04/17 5:32:46 PM #17:	Again, the problem with Kaep is that he's only decent in a specific type of offense that few teams want to actually play. Cutler isn't exactly special but he's at least a guy that you know you can plug into basically any offense and get something that at least vaguely resembles an NFL QB. I don't doubt that Kaepernick would be more interesting to teams without the political element, but it's hardly the only issue with him. He's a terrible choice outside of an offensive system that most teams aren't going to use. The racial/political aspect is more something that convinces teams not to take a gamble they already weren't very keen on than it is the primary reason they don't want him. --- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny <cite>Panthera posted [p:884190882] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Again, the problem with Kaep is that he's only decent in a specific type of offense that few teams want to actually play. Cutler isn't exactly special but he's at least a guy that you know you can plug into basically any offense and get something that at least vaguely resembles an NFL QB. I don't doubt that Kaepernick would be more interesting to teams without the political element, but it's hardly the only issue with him. He's a terrible choice outside of an offensive system that most teams aren't going to use. The racial/political aspect is more something that convinces teams not to take a gamble they already weren't very keen on than it is the primary reason they don't want him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 08/04/17 5:35:20 PM #18:	Panthera posted... Again, the problem with Kaep is that he's only decent in a specific type of offense that few teams want to actually play. Cutler isn't exactly special but he's at least a guy that you know you can plug into basically any offense and get something that at least vaguely resembles an NFL QB. Stop right there. If you mean a pocket passer, that's a specific type of NFL QB. A mobile QB or a running QB is still a fucking NFL QB. Why segregate them. If you're gonna say that he is shitty, just say he's shitty. Still this is a fucking dead horse of an argument. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:884191015] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>Again, the problem with Kaep is that he's only decent in a specific type of offense that few teams want to actually play. Cutler isn't exactly special but he's at least a guy that you know you can plug into basically any offense and get something that at least vaguely resembles an NFL QB.</quote> Stop right there. If you mean a pocket passer, that's a specific type of NFL QB. A mobile QB or a running QB is still a fucking NFL QB. Why segregate them. If you're gonna say that he is shitty, just say he's shitty. Still this is a fucking dead horse of an argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 08/04/17 5:35:51 PM #19:	lol remember when the excuse was "Jay Cutler isn't getting signed is he being blackballed?!?"...Cutler quit football and took an announcer job and he still got called before Kaep (who is a better QB). <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:884191038] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>lol remember when the excuse was "Jay Cutler isn't getting signed is he being blackballed?!?"...Cutler quit football and took an announcer job and he still got called before Kaep (who is a better QB).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 08/04/17 5:38:37 PM #20:	YellowSUV posted... Jay Cutler is a better quarterback than Kaep. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:884191176] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>YellowSUV posted...</cite> <quote>Jay Cutler is a better quarterback than Kaep.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MonkeyBones23 08/04/17 5:41:19 PM #21:	Kineth posted... Panthera posted... Again, the problem with Kaep is that he's only decent in a specific type of offense that few teams want to actually play. Cutler isn't exactly special but he's at least a guy that you know you can plug into basically any offense and get something that at least vaguely resembles an NFL QB. Stop right there. If you mean a pocket passer, that's a specific type of NFL QB. A mobile QB or a running QB is still a fucking NFL QB. Why segregate them. If you're gonna say that he is shitty, just say he's shitty. Still this is a fucking dead horse of an argument. Because changing your entire offensive scheme for a temporary QB is bad for a team and organizations don't particularly like doing it. --- We're a forest of lives, but we grow tall and wide. We'll never be cut down. <cite>MonkeyBones23 posted [p:884191312] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>Again, the problem with Kaep is that he's only decent in a specific type of offense that few teams want to actually play. Cutler isn't exactly special but he's at least a guy that you know you can plug into basically any offense and get something that at least vaguely resembles an NFL QB.</quote> Stop right there. If you mean a pocket passer, that's a specific type of NFL QB. A mobile QB or a running QB is still a fucking NFL QB. Why segregate them. If you're gonna say that he is shitty, just say he's shitty. Still this is a fucking dead horse of an argument.</quote> Because changing your entire offensive scheme for a temporary QB is bad for a team and organizations don't particularly like doing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gojak_v3 08/04/17 5:43:54 PM #22:	Why would this be racist? Culter has already said he's open to signing with the Dolphins. First he's better than Kaep. And second he made some incredibly ignorant comments on Castro that won't go over well in Miami of all places. Oh and third, probably the biggest, Culter already knows Gase's offense and did well in it in 2015. --- http://i.imgtc.com/rIZcfGBEt8.png <cite>Gojak_v3 posted [p:884191452] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Why would this be racist? Culter has already said he's open to signing with the Dolphins. First he's better than Kaep. And second he made some incredibly ignorant comments on Castro that won't go over well in Miami of all places. Oh and third, probably the biggest, Culter already knows Gase's offense and did well in it in 2015.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 08/04/17 5:47:06 PM #23:	MonkeyBones23 posted... Kineth posted... Panthera posted... Again, the problem with Kaep is that he's only decent in a specific type of offense that few teams want to actually play. Cutler isn't exactly special but he's at least a guy that you know you can plug into basically any offense and get something that at least vaguely resembles an NFL QB. Stop right there. If you mean a pocket passer, that's a specific type of NFL QB. A mobile QB or a running QB is still a fucking NFL QB. Why segregate them. If you're gonna say that he is shitty, just say he's shitty. Still this is a fucking dead horse of an argument. Because changing your entire offensive scheme for a temporary QB is bad for a team and organizations don't particularly like doing it. Kap isn't nearly that limited though. He posted mediocre numbers throwing from the pocket last year, which is pretty good considering what a garbage fire the 49ers were/are. I do agree Cutler is a better fit for the Dolphins though, but they're not the only team in need of quarterback help. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:884191605] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>MonkeyBones23 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>Again, the problem with Kaep is that he's only decent in a specific type of offense that few teams want to actually play. Cutler isn't exactly special but he's at least a guy that you know you can plug into basically any offense and get something that at least vaguely resembles an NFL QB.</quote> Stop right there. If you mean a pocket passer, that's a specific type of NFL QB. A mobile QB or a running QB is still a fucking NFL QB. Why segregate them. If you're gonna say that he is shitty, just say he's shitty. Still this is a fucking dead horse of an argument.</quote> Because changing your entire offensive scheme for a temporary QB is bad for a team and organizations don't particularly like doing it.</quote> Kap isn't nearly that limited though. He posted mediocre numbers throwing from the pocket last year, which is pretty good considering what a garbage fire the 49ers were/are. I do agree Cutler is a better fit for the Dolphins though, but they're not the only team in need of quarterback help.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 08/04/17 5:48:43 PM #24:	hyperpowder posted... Cutler was one of the worst Quartbacks that had an actual career. RIP Dolphins, should get your ego in check and get CK Lol Kineth posted... Panthera posted... Again, the problem with Kaep is that he's only decent in a specific type of offense that few teams want to actually play. Cutler isn't exactly special but he's at least a guy that you know you can plug into basically any offense and get something that at least vaguely resembles an NFL QB. Stop right there. If you mean a pocket passer, that's a specific type of NFL QB. A mobile QB or a running QB is still a fucking NFL QB. Why segregate them. If you're gonna say that he is shitty, just say he's shitty. Still this is a fucking dead horse of an argument. Because run first QBs are a gimmick that almost never work in the NFL. Whereas 99% of productive NFL QBs have been pocket passers? --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:884191675] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote>Cutler was one of the worst Quartbacks that had an actual career. RIP Dolphins, should get your ego in check and get CK</quote> Lol <cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>Again, the problem with Kaep is that he's only decent in a specific type of offense that few teams want to actually play. Cutler isn't exactly special but he's at least a guy that you know you can plug into basically any offense and get something that at least vaguely resembles an NFL QB.</quote> Stop right there. If you mean a pocket passer, that's a specific type of NFL QB. A mobile QB or a running QB is still a fucking NFL QB. Why segregate them. If you're gonna say that he is shitty, just say he's shitty. Still this is a fucking dead horse of an argument.</quote> Because run first QBs are a gimmick that almost never work in the NFL. Whereas 99% of productive NFL QBs have been pocket passers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gojak_v3 08/04/17 5:51:03 PM #26:	ElatedVenusaur posted... Plus, the rumor is that the Ravens front office, HC John Harbaugh, and the players in general are all interested in signing Kap, but the owner is opposed. This isn't a football decision This isn't being reported entirely accurate. The rumor is also that sponsors and season ticket holders are pushing back as well. Ultimately the NFL is a business and the dollar is king. He's not gonna risk it if he's getting enough push back. It's pretty much out of his hands if this is the case. --- http://i.imgtc.com/rIZcfGBEt8.png <cite>Gojak_v3 posted [p:884191789] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote>Plus, the rumor is that the Ravens front office, HC John Harbaugh, and the players in general are all interested in signing Kap, but the owner is opposed. This isn't a football decision</quote> This isn't being reported entirely accurate. The rumor is also that sponsors and season ticket holders are pushing back as well. Ultimately the NFL is a business and the dollar is king. He's not gonna risk it if he's getting enough push back. It's pretty much out of his hands if this is the case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 08/04/17 5:51:26 PM #27:	Spooking posted... "Freedom of Speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences." is now being used against the left. Kaepernick can protest all he wants. That doesn't mean he has freedom of consequences for that speech. Doesn't feel good when that quote is used against you, huh? You(and, apparently, NFL owners) think there should be consequences for protesting police killings of black people, who were mostly unarmed. Some were children. In 99% of these cases, there was no justice, no matter how heinous. That's what you think people should suffer for. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:884191810] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>"Freedom of Speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences." is now being used against the left. Kaepernick can protest all he wants. That doesn't mean he has freedom of consequences for that speech. Doesn't feel good when that quote is used against you, huh?</quote> You(and, apparently, NFL owners) think there should be consequences for protesting police killings of black people, who were mostly unarmed. Some were children. In 99% of these cases, there was no justice, no matter how heinous. That's what you think people should suffer for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gojak_v3 08/04/17 5:55:12 PM #28:	So many people sound like they have no clue about football ITT. First, I don't expect the Dolphins to make the sb, but the fact is they would have probably been in the wild card hunt. Maybe Matt Moore can do that maybe he can't. But if they think Cutler can I really don't see why you don't at least try. He's a much better option for a bunch of different reasons. --- http://i.imgtc.com/rIZcfGBEt8.png <cite>Gojak_v3 posted [p:884191995] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>So many people sound like they have no clue about football ITT. First, I don't expect the Dolphins to make the sb, but the fact is they would have probably been in the wild card hunt. Maybe Matt Moore can do that maybe he can't. But if they think Cutler can I really don't see why you don't at least try. He's a much better option for a bunch of different reasons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MACisBack 08/04/17 5:56:14 PM #29:	IMO, because I don't keep up with sports or any of it. So this is a shot in the dark. I believe Colin shot himself in the foot when he opened his big mouth regarding cops, and just like Pewdiepie dressing up like a Nazi to prove a point. It was bad publicity that sticks with them regardless of whether they moved locations or changed their opinion of what they stand for. It's like you get branded with it like so many TV stars and such that do dumb shit so when trying to make a comeback it just doesn't happen due to the offense of what they did, and it will affect that football team's reputation that tries to hire him. Also, everyone I know, says he a shitty QB, that's coming from friends that watch football. So I don't know. --- "There is wife assisted suicide. Get married and every day you die a little more" -teltec http://i.imgur.com/8snn2TX.jpg <cite>MACisBack posted [p:884192046] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>IMO, because I don't keep up with sports or any of it. So this is a shot in the dark. I believe Colin shot himself in the foot when he opened his big mouth regarding cops, and just like Pewdiepie dressing up like a Nazi to prove a point. It was bad publicity that sticks with them regardless of whether they moved locations or changed their opinion of what they stand for. It's like you get branded with it like so many TV stars and such that do dumb shit so when trying to make a comeback it just doesn't happen due to the offense of what they did, and it will affect that football team's reputation that tries to hire him. Also, everyone I know, says he a shitty QB, that's coming from friends that watch football. So I don't know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MonkeyBones23 08/04/17 5:57:50 PM #30:	ElatedVenusaur posted... MonkeyBones23 posted... Kineth posted... Panthera posted... Again, the problem with Kaep is that he's only decent in a specific type of offense that few teams want to actually play. Cutler isn't exactly special but he's at least a guy that you know you can plug into basically any offense and get something that at least vaguely resembles an NFL QB. Stop right there. If you mean a pocket passer, that's a specific type of NFL QB. A mobile QB or a running QB is still a fucking NFL QB. Why segregate them. If you're gonna say that he is shitty, just say he's shitty. Still this is a fucking dead horse of an argument. Because changing your entire offensive scheme for a temporary QB is bad for a team and organizations don't particularly like doing it. Kap isn't nearly that limited though. He posted mediocre numbers throwing from the pocket last year, which is pretty good considering what a garbage fire the 49ers were/are. I do agree Cutler is a better fit for the Dolphins though, but they're not the only team in need of quarterback help. I do agree. I just don't think teams want to deal with the politics of it all. He definitely should not play for the Dolphins though as I do think Kap's past with Castro is a big deal with the large Cuban fan base of Miami teams. Although the casual fan might not care. --- We're a forest of lives, but we grow tall and wide. We'll never be cut down. <cite>MonkeyBones23 posted [p:884192143] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MonkeyBones23 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Panthera posted...</cite> <quote>Again, the problem with Kaep is that he's only decent in a specific type of offense that few teams want to actually play. Cutler isn't exactly special but he's at least a guy that you know you can plug into basically any offense and get something that at least vaguely resembles an NFL QB.</quote> Stop right there. If you mean a pocket passer, that's a specific type of NFL QB. A mobile QB or a running QB is still a fucking NFL QB. Why segregate them. If you're gonna say that he is shitty, just say he's shitty. Still this is a fucking dead horse of an argument.</quote> Because changing your entire offensive scheme for a temporary QB is bad for a team and organizations don't particularly like doing it.</quote> Kap isn't nearly that limited though. He posted mediocre numbers throwing from the pocket last year, which is pretty good considering what a garbage fire the 49ers were/are. I do agree Cutler is a better fit for the Dolphins though, but they're not the only team in need of quarterback help.</quote> I do agree. I just don't think teams want to deal with the politics of it all. He definitely should not play for the Dolphins though as I do think Kap's past with Castro is a big deal with the large Cuban fan base of Miami teams. Although the casual fan might not care.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Error1355 08/04/17 5:58:12 PM #31:	Or maybe NFL team owners don't want the political attention that Kaepernick brings? Claiming this is racist seems to be reaching quite a bit. --- This life is just a game we play, that we can never win. But don't give up, no don't give up. <cite>Error1355 posted [p:884192171] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Or maybe NFL team owners don't want the political attention that Kaepernick brings? Claiming this is racist seems to be reaching quite a bit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 08/04/17 6:00:35 PM #32:	Besides the negative publicity that he brings, isn't he still demanding a starter's salary to be someone's backup? That right there is enough not to sign his crazy ass. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:884192294] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Besides the negative publicity that he brings, isn't he still demanding a starter's salary to be someone's backup? That right there is enough not to sign his crazy ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 08/04/17 6:02:53 PM #33:	ElatedVenusaur posted... Spooking posted... "Freedom of Speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences." is now being used against the left. Kaepernick can protest all he wants. That doesn't mean he has freedom of consequences for that speech. Doesn't feel good when that quote is used against you, huh? You(and, apparently, NFL owners) think there should be consequences for protesting police killings of black people, who were mostly unarmed. Some were children. In 99% of these cases, there was no justice, no matter how heinous. That's what you think people should suffer for. Lol Nobody said this. The NFL didn't say it. The owners didn't say this. His failing to stand for the anthem, wearing pig socks, and talking shit about cops alienated viewers and owners care about money and aren't going to take some back up gimmick at the cost of viewers. They don't give two shits about his protest. They care about making money. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:884192400] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>"Freedom of Speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences." is now being used against the left. Kaepernick can protest all he wants. That doesn't mean he has freedom of consequences for that speech. Doesn't feel good when that quote is used against you, huh?</quote> You(and, apparently, NFL owners) think there should be consequences for protesting police killings of black people, who were mostly unarmed. Some were children. In 99% of these cases, there was no justice, no matter how heinous. That's what you think people should suffer for.</quote> Lol Nobody said this. The NFL didn't say it. The owners didn't say this. His failing to stand for the anthem, wearing pig socks, and talking shit about cops alienated viewers and owners care about money and aren't going to take some back up gimmick at the cost of viewers. They don't give two shits about his protest. They care about making money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ghost_Of_Donkey 08/04/17 6:03:09 PM #34:	But he's a mixed feelings like a mulatto though. <cite>Ghost_Of_Donkey posted [p:884192418] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>But he's a mixed feelings like a mulatto though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gojak_v3 08/04/17 6:03:28 PM #35:	scorpion41 posted... Besides the negative publicity that he brings, isn't he still demanding a starter's salary to be someone's backup? That right there is enough not to sign his crazy ass. nah, pretty sure he's open to being a backup. Cutler has said he wants starter money to come back so that might be an issue against him. --- http://i.imgtc.com/rIZcfGBEt8.png <cite>Gojak_v3 posted [p:884192429] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>Besides the negative publicity that he brings, isn't he still demanding a starter's salary to be someone's backup? That right there is enough not to sign his crazy ass.</quote> nah, pretty sure he's open to being a backup. Cutler has said he wants starter money to come back so that might be an issue against him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/04/17 6:05:04 PM #36:	There are consequences for stupidity, and Kaep is paying. He could have protested this issue intelligently and no one would have cared (something many NBA players did). But instead of being intelligent, he chose an action that disrespected the flag, wore pig socks mocking cops, didn't vote, defended Castro, and thought Che Guevara was a great mind. In other words, he's a fucking idiot, not some civil rights martyr being penalized by the racist white overlords. You have to be pretty dim yourself to not see the difference. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:884192529] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>There are consequences for stupidity, and Kaep is paying. He could have protested this issue intelligently and no one would have cared (something many NBA players did). But instead of being intelligent, he chose an action that disrespected the flag, wore pig socks mocking cops, didn't vote, defended Castro, and thought Che Guevara was a great mind. In other words, he's a fucking idiot, not some civil rights martyr being penalized by the racist white overlords. You have to be pretty dim yourself to not see the difference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 08/04/17 6:34:52 PM #37:	Kineth posted... Stop right there. If you mean a pocket passer, that's a specific type of NFL QB. A mobile QB or a running QB is still a fucking NFL QB. Why segregate them. If you're gonna say that he is shitty, just say he's shitty. Still this is a fucking dead horse of an argument. Kaep is only a decent option in an offense that NFL teams rarely use. This isn't exactly a shocking claim. He's not shitty if he fits the system the team plays, then he's decent. In a conventional NFL offense that doesn't rely on QB mobility way more often than not, he's been okay at times but mostly not. --- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny <cite>Panthera posted [p:884194101] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Stop right there. If you mean a pocket passer, that's a specific type of NFL QB. A mobile QB or a running QB is still a fucking NFL QB. Why segregate them. If you're gonna say that he is shitty, just say he's shitty. Still this is a fucking dead horse of an argument.</quote> Kaep is only a decent option in an offense that NFL teams rarely use. This isn't exactly a shocking claim. He's not shitty if he fits the system the team plays, then he's decent. In a conventional NFL offense that doesn't rely on QB mobility way more often than not, he's been okay at times but mostly not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 08/06/17 2:29:09 AM #39:	Something tells me a dude that promotes Fidel Castro isn't going to sit well in a city like Miami with a large Cuban-American population. But I mean, that's just me. --- No one sings like you anymore <cite>WaterLink posted [p:884269343] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Something tells me a dude that promotes Fidel Castro isn't going to sit well in a city like Miami with a large Cuban-American population. But I mean, that's just me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/06/17 12:51:42 PM #40:	K181 posted... Because Kaepernick is a specialized one-trick pony that needs an offense molded around him versus Cutler who, despite his many detriments, is a more prototypical QB that can fit in most systems and has a helluva arm. Both are bad options, though. This. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:884285843] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>Because Kaepernick is a specialized one-trick pony that needs an offense molded around him versus Cutler who, despite his many detriments, is a more prototypical QB that can fit in most systems and has a helluva arm. Both are bad options, though.</quote> This.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 08/06/17 12:53:24 PM #41:	Didn't knw Dolphins could communicate with humans now. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:884285924] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Didn't knw Dolphins could communicate with humans now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iamintents 08/06/17 12:55:26 PM #42:	yes the league is racist but ONLY because American football fans are racist. --- http://i.imgur.com/rCECrB9.gif <cite>iamintents posted [p:884286017] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>yes the league is racist but ONLY because American football fans are racist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 08/06/17 12:55:42 PM #43:	Spooking posted... "Freedom of Speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences." is now being used against the left. Kaepernick can protest all he wants. That doesn't mean he has freedom of consequences for that speech. Doesn't feel good when that quote is used against you, huh? When the same people bitching about someone taking a knee are the same people who voted for a man who made fun of POWs. It just shows how racist the right really are. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:884286027] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spooking posted...</cite> <quote>"Freedom of Speech doesn't mean freedom of consequences." is now being used against the left. Kaepernick can protest all he wants. That doesn't mean he has freedom of consequences for that speech. Doesn't feel good when that quote is used against you, huh?</quote> When the same people bitching about someone taking a knee are the same people who voted for a man who made fun of POWs. It just shows how racist the right really are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoopMcgee420 08/06/17 12:56:39 PM #44:	Cutler is better and not a distraction. Why do people who dont understand football keep saying stupid shit like kaep is being black balled. --- "Larry Brown has never won a championship." - bond21 Trump is my president. <cite>PoopMcgee420 posted [p:884286071] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Cutler is better and not a distraction. Why do people who dont understand football keep saying stupid shit like kaep is being black balled.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 08/06/17 12:58:11 PM #45:	Where was all this racist talk when Tebow was being shunned from the league. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:884286139] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>Where was all this racist talk when Tebow was being shunned from the league.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoopMcgee420 08/06/17 12:58:29 PM #46:	ElatedVenusaur posted... At this point, it's pretty clear Kap is getting black-balled. You cannot tell me with a straight face that Ryan Mallet or Blaine Gabbert or Kellen Moore or Trevone Boykin is a better quarterback than he is. . See this is why people lkke @ElatedVenusaur shouldnt speak. None of those qbs are distractions, none are back ups trying to be starting qbs, none of them want starting qb money....get a clue or at least shut up --- "Larry Brown has never won a championship." - bond21 Trump is my president. <cite>PoopMcgee420 posted [p:884286152] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote>At this point, it's pretty clear Kap is getting black-balled. You cannot tell me with a straight face that Ryan Mallet or Blaine Gabbert or Kellen Moore or Trevone Boykin is a better quarterback than he is. .</quote> See this is why people lkke @ElatedVenusaur shouldnt speak. None of those qbs are distractions, none are back ups trying to be starting qbs, none of them want starting qb money....get a clue or at least shut up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoopMcgee420 08/06/17 12:59:15 PM #47:	@TheVipaGTS Kaep quit football too and is a worse qb --- "Larry Brown has never won a championship." - bond21 Trump is my president. <cite>PoopMcgee420 posted [p:884286187] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>@TheVipaGTS Kaep quit football too and is a worse qb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 08/06/17 12:59:15 PM #48:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... Where was all this racist talk when Tebow was being shunned from the league No one shunned Tebow, he was given more chances then others. He would not even change positions when asked . --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:884286188] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>Where was all this racist talk when Tebow was being shunned from the league</quote> No one shunned Tebow, he was given more chances then others. He would not even change positions when asked .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 08/06/17 1:02:13 PM #49:	I've been team kaepernick since the beginning, but Miami was out the moment he wore that Castro shirt. Cubans down there don't play with that --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:884286325] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote>I've been team kaepernick since the beginning, but Miami was out the moment he wore that Castro shirt. Cubans down there don't play with that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoopMcgee420 08/06/17 1:03:33 PM #50:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... Where was all this racist talk when Tebow was being shunned from the league. Hes a white straight christian. Its not cool to pretend we care. Its only cool to pretend when its a minority --- "Larry Brown has never won a championship." - bond21 Trump is my president. <cite>PoopMcgee420 posted [p:884286376] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote>Where was all this racist talk when Tebow was being shunned from the league.</quote> Hes a white straight christian. Its not cool to pretend we care. Its only cool to pretend when its a minority</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 08/06/17 1:05:21 PM #51:	PoopMcgee420 posted... Hes a white straight christian. Its not cool to pretend we care. Its only cool to pretend when its a minority The fact that he was "such" a christian is why people think he was Shun. If he changed positions he could have still be in the league . Even comparing him to Tebow proves the point about racism. BTW TEBOW WAS THE ONLY CHRISTIAN to play in the NFL. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:884286444] in Dolphins r... [t:75637841]...</cite> <quote><cite>PoopMcgee420 posted...</cite> <quote> Hes a white straight christian. Its not cool to pretend we care. Its only cool to pretend when its a minority</quote> The fact that he was "such" a christian is why people think he was Shun. If he changed positions he could have still be in the league . Even comparing him to Tebow proves the point about racism. BTW TEBOW WAS THE ONLY CHRISTIAN to play in the NFL.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Dolphins reached out to retired Jay Cutler before Kaepernick. Racist/Blackball?