Current Events > SJWs call white girl's Japanese tea party racist. shut down by actual Japanese

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Actual Japanese people certainly don't have a history of racism...

the moment you even care a little bit about what an SJW thinks is the moment you lost.
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"It's not offensive to the Japanese because the Japanese have no reason to be offended because they don't live here and don't have to deal with the effects of whatever comes after a culture misappropriates another culture's stuff"
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I also think it's ridiculous that one Japanese person's comment means that all of Japan is just a-ok with it. I'm not arguing either way, but isn't that the definition of racism?

DocileOrangeCup posted...

the moment you even care a little bit about what an SJW thinks is the moment you lost.

this. SJWs are completely brain dead

This is like 5 years old or something like that
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This is like when a white person dresses up as a mariachi singer, and then white people are offended on behalf of Mexicans.
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ArchiePeck posted...

Actual Japanese people certainly don't have a history of racism...

That is funny, however many people say that racism claim in Japan is a bit over blown .
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Kaname_Madoka posted...

This is like 5 years old or something like that

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Cultural Appropriation doesn't exist.
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Who cares?

Sod what those moronic SJWs think.

They're demented losers.
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Japan prolly wouldn't care, stuff like the "Bugs nips the nips" cartoon is far more offensive to them.
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unpleasant_milk posted...

Who cares?

Schools and businesses care when they're bullied into submission by threats of boycotts, extortion, and violence. SJWs are a poison that need to be flushed out of this country.

Annihilated posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

Who cares?

Schools and businesses care when they're bullied into submission by threats of boycotts, extortion, and violence. SJWs are a poison that need to be flushed out of this country.

Then stop legitimizing them
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That was quite a burn goddamn.
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Kaname_Madoka posted...

Annihilated posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

Who cares?

Schools and businesses care when they're bullied into submission by threats of boycotts, extortion, and violence. SJWs are a poison that need to be flushed out of this country.

Then stop legitimizing them

Stop legitimizing schools and businesses?

Much of the lower IQ portion of CE believes nonsense this too.
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Annihilated posted...

Kaname_Madoka posted...

Annihilated posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

Who cares?

Schools and businesses care when they're bullied into submission by threats of boycotts, extortion, and violence. SJWs are a poison that need to be flushed out of this country.

Then stop legitimizing them

Stop legitimizing schools and businesses?

Stop legitimizing SJWs
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Annihilated posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

Who cares?

Schools and businesses care when they're bullied into submission by threats of boycotts, extortion, and violence. SJWs are a poison that need to be flushed out of this country.

This is the stupidest attitude and I'm so sick of hearing about it. Everyone thinks big business is all about strong moral codes and blind devotion to their codes of honor. Let's be realistic. Businesses actually encourage this sort of thing. They want people from all races and countries and genders to feel like they actually care about them. When Starbucks prints cups with Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas, it's not because they are scared of those mean secularists, it's because they want Muslims, Jews, atheists, Hindus, and Buddhists to buy their coffee just as much as they want Christians too.

neverwin posted...

Japan prolly wouldn't care, stuff like the "Bugs nips the nips" cartoon is far more offensive to them.

I think most people in Japan would react like this:


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Dash_Harber posted...

This is the stupidest attitude and I'm so sick of hearing about it. Everyone thinks big business

You're the one who mentioned big business, not me.

Dash_Harber posted...

Annihilated posted...

unpleasant_milk posted...

Who cares?

Schools and businesses care when they're bullied into submission by threats of boycotts, extortion, and violence. SJWs are a poison that need to be flushed out of this country.

This is the stupidest attitude and I'm so sick of hearing about it. Everyone thinks businesses are all about strong moral codes and blind devotion to their codes of honor. Let's be realistic. Businesses actually encourage this sort of thing. They want people from all races and countries and genders to feel like they actually care about them. When Starbucks prints cups with Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas, it's not because they are scared of those mean secularists, it's because they want Muslims, Jews, atheists, Hindus, and Buddhists to buy their coffee just as much as they want Christians too.

Better?

Dash_Harber posted...

Better?

Worse. You don't even know how businesses operate.

That last comment in the picture is what really bugs me.

How can these people care so much about anti-racism yet declare you have to be at least partially X race in order to participate in X cultural practice? Like somehow this is an affront to the Japanese people because she's full-blown white, but it would be okay if she had an ethnically Japanese grandparent despite not being involved in Japanese culture whatsoever? These people seem to be obsessed with diversity but apparently everyone needs to stay within their racial lines.
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It sickens me when racists on either side go after CHILDREN.

Delta_F14 posted...

Kaname_Madoka posted...

This is like 5 years old or something like that

Aye, I saw it when it made its first rounds. It's from like 2013 - 2014.

For what it's worth, the girl did this because she was interested in Japanese culture. She didn't smear white makeup on her face and start speaking broken English because that's what she thought Japanese people did, she apparently looked it up and was legitimately into the whole thing which is why her mother put the thing together. The facepaint could have looked a bit better before her mother put the photos up on the internet for everyone to see, but it's a genuine interest and desire to know about Japanese culture that fuelled this activity.

A part of the argument, aside from the tacky facepaint, is that it's wrong for white people to wear kimonos. Except people who have been to Japan have received kimonos from Japanese people as a gift. A long as you're respecting their culture, and wear the clothes with respect and dignity, there's no reason not to wear them. I think the post mentions that the girl had her kimono on the right way, like she and her mother looked it up and did it that way? I'm not clicking on that clickbait link. It looks like it was done with love, not like her mother draping a curtain over her and tying it around her with a bath towel. If that's the case, then there shouldn't be that much of a fuss.

Kimonos aren't sacred. They're formal clothing. Wearing a Native American headress is more along the lines of cultural appropriation than this, because it means something special to the Native Americans. Isn't it a ceremonial headress? It's understandable to feel offended at some idiot throwing one on for the aesthetic, because that is a special item to the culture. Kimonos are unique to Japan, and in a way they're a cultural symbol. But they're not religious robes, or signs of higher power. They're formal clothes that people wear to festivals and stuff, and there are white people who are respectful of Japanese culture who have been given kimonos. There are people of other races and cultures in Japan who wear kimonos on special occasions. There's no taboo over wearing kimonos, and insisting that there is, because white people are conquerors and lack the respect necessary to wear the clothes, is total bullshit.
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Dash_Harber posted...

I also think it's ridiculous that one Japanese person's comment means that all of Japan is just a-ok with it. I'm not arguing either way, but isn't that the definition of racism?

Ok, but good luck finding some Japanese people (i.e. actually from Japan) who are offended in any way over a little white girl in a kimono. All the ones who are part of my inner circle or whom I worked side by side with would say it's cute and surprising that she went to the trouble of dressing up. The tea setup would get bonus points.
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The biggest issue is people assume cultural appropriation just means anyone of a certain race can't do things of a minority race.


Which isn't the case, it requires a change in meaning and vaule to be appropriation.
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So the japanese shut it down but SJWs get the blame? what else is new. Blame the boogieman.
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gamepimp12 posted...

The biggest issue is people assume cultural appropriation just means anyone of a certain race can't do things of a minority race.


Which isn't the case, it requires a change in meaning and vaule to be appropriation.

Look at this guy try to defend this type of bigotry.

The biggest issue is people assume cultural appropriation just means anyone of a certain race can't do things of a minority race.

That's because most people who subscribe to this bigotry do just that. White people can't wear braids, corn rolls, dreads, or even rap. Stop trying to polish this turd. It's hate.

creativerealms posted...

So the japanese shut it down but SJWs get the blame? what else is new. Blame the boogieman.

Wah, the poor SJWs getting the blame. Boo hoo.

gamepimp12 posted...

The biggest issue is people assume cultural appropriation just means anyone of a certain race can't do things of a minority race.

Which isn't the case, it requires a change in meaning and vaule to be appropriation.

Pretty much any time you hear cries about "cultural appropriation," you can safely bet your life it's a white person being attacked. No one really gives a shit or cries appropriation if an Asian or black dude dress up like a leprechaun for St. Paddy's Day, or if a Hispanic guy wears Lederhosen to celebrate Oktoberfest. But a white guy wears a sombrero for Cinco de Mayo? Well, that triggers microaggressions and becomes a social media sensation.
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The Admiral posted...

gamepimp12 posted...

The biggest issue is people assume cultural appropriation just means anyone of a certain race can't do things of a minority race.

Which isn't the case, it requires a change in meaning and vaule to be appropriation.

Pretty much any time you hear cries about "cultural appropriation," you can safely bet your life it's a white person being attacked. No one really gives a shit or cries appropriation if an Asian or black dude dress up like a leprechaun for St. Paddy's Day, or if a Hispanic guy wears Lederhosen to celebrate Oktoberfest. But a white guy wears a sombrero for Cinco de Mayo? Well, that triggers microaggressions and becomes a social media sensation.

Their counter argument -- Your people oppressed their ancestors! Hispanics didn't oppress the Irish!!11

Underneath that, it's "white people" are inferior, have no culture, and must steal it from others. I've seen this argued by non-white SJWs too many times to count. This anti-SJW mentions this at 7:35

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqme47Bfw30

Ammonitida posted...

Underneath that, it's "white people" are inferior, have no culture, and must steal it from others.

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http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/john_wayne_cowboy_poster.jpg

The Admiral posted...

gamepimp12 posted...

The biggest issue is people assume cultural appropriation just means anyone of a certain race can't do things of a minority race.

Which isn't the case, it requires a change in meaning and vaule to be appropriation.

Pretty much any time you hear cries about "cultural appropriation," you can safely bet your life it's a white person being attacked. No one really gives a shit or cries appropriation if an Asian or black dude dress up like a leprechaun for St. Paddy's Day, or if a Hispanic guy wears Lederhosen to celebrate Oktoberfest. But a white guy wears a sombrero for Cinco de Mayo? Well, that triggers microaggressions and becomes a social media sensation.

Nicki Minaj got attacked for wearing a Kimono once. I mean I am sure you will find it if you google the right words.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Underneath that, it's "white people" are inferior, have no culture, and must steal it from others.

https://cdn.mtlblog.com/uploads/272900_e6e5aba6a3e7b38b52c049f27d4e6b8dce3c8ed8.jpg
http://i3.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article13409564.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/Girls-small.jpg
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/john_wayne_cowboy_poster.jpg

Cowboys were originally Mexicans though. Seriously.

Must be pretty pathetic if you get offended by other people appreciating another culture.
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I'm half Chinese and wore a qi pao my nainai (grandmother) gave me to homecoming and I had some girl come up to me and tell me to stop appropriating other cultures. Was so weird.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

I'm half Chinese and wore a qi pao my nainai (grandmother) gave me to homecoming and I had some girl come up to me and tell me to stop appropriating other cultures. Was so weird.

Wow.

Did you tell her you were Chinese?
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foreveraIone posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

I'm half Chinese and wore a qi pao my nainai (grandmother) gave me to homecoming and I had some girl come up to me and tell me to stop appropriating other cultures. Was so weird.

Wow.

Did you tell her you were Chinese?

I told her she wasn't worth my time
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Ammonitida posted...

Cowboys were originally Mexicans though. Seriously.

And beer started in the fertile crescent.

So what?

to me these blanket statements are dumb

it depends on the context and the intent. it seems likely this girl is just interested in japanese culture, which is absolutely fine (and awesome, I think). If she was walking around in that outfit and mocking japanese accents / asian stereotypes, it would be offensive/inappropriate.

it all depends on your purpose and your behavior, its not about the clothing or the hairstyle, or whatever.

Apparently I don't look Chinese enough to partake in the culture that is literally 50% of my DNA
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Fam_Fam posted...

to me these blanket statements are dumb

it depends on the context and the intent. it seems likely this girl is just interested in japanese culture, which is absolutely fine (and awesome, I think). If she was walking around in that outfit and mocking japanese accents / asian stereotypes, it would be offensive/inappropriate.

it all depends on your purpose and your behavior, its not about the clothing or the hairstyle, or whatever.

I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Most accusations of "cultural appropriation" that I have seen rarely have anything to do with people mocking another ethnicity. Just merely donning a certain costume or attire is enough to trigger.

Annihilated posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Better?

Worse. You don't even know how businesses operate.

Well, I think it has something to do with providing a good or service in exchange for legal tender, preferably to more people than less. What I don't think, is that all businesses operate in perpetual fear of their customers and constantly striving to be moral paragons at their own expense.

Imagine getting upset at a girl playing tea party.
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Ammonitida posted...

Fam_Fam posted...

to me these blanket statements are dumb

it depends on the context and the intent. it seems likely this girl is just interested in japanese culture, which is absolutely fine (and awesome, I think). If she was walking around in that outfit and mocking japanese accents / asian stereotypes, it would be offensive/inappropriate.

it all depends on your purpose and your behavior, its not about the clothing or the hairstyle, or whatever.

I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Most accusations of "cultural appropriation" that I have seen rarely have anything to do with people mocking another ethnicity. Just merely donning a certain costume or attire is enough to trigger.

that's my point. she didn't cross any line like that, and so the "cultural appropriation" is a non-issue here. the mocking can be seen as a problem, as could some sort of "taking credit" for something that someone else created, which upsets some people. But if you are saying, hey I was inspired by X, and want to respectfully use X's stuff, I don't see any problem whatsoever

how is whiteface a cultural thing?


America has a history of people painting their face white as well
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joeun_saram posted...

"It's not offensive to the Japanese because the Japanese have no reason to be offended because they don't live here and don't have to deal with the effects of whatever comes after a culture misappropriates another culture's stuff"

lol that was a funny parody.

I'm sorry. What harm comes from sharing cultures? You jokester...
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