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Not_an_Owl 07/27/17 11:24:30 PM #353:	Nelson_Mandela posted... transience posted... McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393 Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation. The GOP had every chance to craft "decent bipartisan legislation" back when Obamacare was being drafted in the first place. They offered dozens of amendments that made it into the law, and in the end not a single Republican voted for it because they were already committed to refusing to allow Obama and the Democrats to do anything. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. <cite>Not_an_Owl posted [p:883731974] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>transience posted...</cite> <quote>McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393</quote> Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation.</quote> The GOP had every chance to craft "decent bipartisan legislation" back when Obamacare was being drafted in the first place. They offered dozens of amendments that made it into the law, and in the end not a single Republican voted for it because they were already committed to refusing to allow Obama and the Democrats to do anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 07/27/17 11:24:58 PM #354:	The GOP wants Democrats to work with them... when the GOP has adamantly refused to work with Democrats in the past? It's difficult to believe you're being sincere right now. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:883731991] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>The GOP wants Democrats to work with them... when the GOP has adamantly refused to work with Democrats in the past? It's difficult to believe you're being sincere right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
velocycloraptor 07/27/17 11:25:50 PM #355:	any person that does not support universal health care is a monster. this country is an evil imperialist empire that cares only about those with wealth and forsakes or actively seeks to harm the powerless and poor across the entire globe including its own borders. however we completely lack class consciousness so morons will keep supporting the assholes in power because they hate their neighbors more than the powerful people who fuck us all. <cite>velocycloraptor posted [p:883732035] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>any person that does not support universal health care is a monster. this country is an evil imperialist empire that cares only about those with wealth and forsakes or actively seeks to harm the powerless and poor across the entire globe including its own borders. however we completely lack class consciousness so morons will keep supporting the assholes in power because they hate their neighbors more than the powerful people who fuck us all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/27/17 11:26:20 PM #356:	Nelson_Mandela posted... transience posted... McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393 Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation. And that isn't gonna work because this is gonna kill Republicans chance to keep the congress and even the presidency in 2018 and 2020. This is massively unpopular. This is how political careers die. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:883732060] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>transience posted...</cite> <quote>McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393</quote> Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation.</quote> And that isn't gonna work because this is gonna kill Republicans chance to keep the congress and even the presidency in 2018 and 2020. This is massively unpopular. This is how political careers die.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not_an_Owl 07/27/17 11:27:09 PM #357:	Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. <cite>Not_an_Owl posted [p:883732106] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/27/17 11:27:30 PM #358:	Dems can take the high road! This repeal means starting fresh. --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:883732126] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>Dems can take the high road! This repeal means starting fresh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/27/17 11:28:20 PM #359:	Not_an_Owl posted... Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony. Obamacare was passed when the Dems had a supermajority and could do whatever they wanted. Can't really be bipartisan there. --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:883732170] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Not_an_Owl posted...</cite> <quote>Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony.</quote> Obamacare was passed when the Dems had a supermajority and could do whatever they wanted. Can't really be bipartisan there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 07/27/17 11:28:48 PM #360:	Nobody answered me when I asked if there was any legit reason not to block him before. --- **** Netflix <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:883732189] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>Nobody answered me when I asked if there was any legit reason not to block him before.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/27/17 11:28:59 PM #361:	TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... transience posted... McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393 Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation. And that isn't gonna work because this is gonna kill Republicans chance to keep the congress and even the presidency in 2018 and 2020. This is massively unpopular. This is how political careers die. Nah, no one will care about this in 2020 and the Senate is a lock for the GOP in 2018. --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:883732197] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>transience posted...</cite> <quote>McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393</quote> Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation.</quote> And that isn't gonna work because this is gonna kill Republicans chance to keep the congress and even the presidency in 2018 and 2020. This is massively unpopular. This is how political careers die.</quote> Nah, no one will care about this in 2020 and the Senate is a lock for the GOP in 2018.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 07/27/17 11:29:05 PM #362:	Not_an_Owl posted... Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony. Seph isn't the least bit surprising right now. That's about the nicest way I can put that. --- http://i.imgur.com/gOGzcN4.gif DYL <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:883732200] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Not_an_Owl posted...</cite> <quote>Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony.</quote> Seph isn't the least bit surprising right now. That's about the nicest way I can put that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 07/27/17 11:29:13 PM #363:	Pretty sure the high road is gonna be passing the public option at minimum after they regain control after this proves to be monumentally unpopular. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:883732204] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure the high road is gonna be passing the public option at minimum after they regain control after this proves to be monumentally unpopular.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/27/17 11:30:05 PM #364:	xp1337 posted... Pretty sure the high road is gonna be passing the public option at minimum after they regain control after this proves to be monumentally unpopular. Lol --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:883732246] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>xp1337 posted...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure the high road is gonna be passing the public option at minimum after they regain control after this proves to be monumentally unpopular.</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 07/27/17 11:30:28 PM #365:	LapisLazuli posted... Nobody answered me when I asked if there was any legit reason not to block him before. Which one? --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:883732264] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody answered me when I asked if there was any legit reason not to block him before.</quote> Which one?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/27/17 11:31:00 PM #366:	Nelson_Mandela posted... TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... transience posted... McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393 Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation. And that isn't gonna work because this is gonna kill Republicans chance to keep the congress and even the presidency in 2018 and 2020. This is massively unpopular. This is how political careers die. Nah, no one will care about this in 2020 and the Senate is a lock for the GOP in 2018. Premiums will rise 20% every year from now until 2026. This will hurt Republicans massively. They'll keep the Senate more than likely via logistics. They will struggle to keep the House and by 2020 both will be gone. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:883732296] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>transience posted...</cite> <quote>McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393</quote> Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation.</quote> And that isn't gonna work because this is gonna kill Republicans chance to keep the congress and even the presidency in 2018 and 2020. This is massively unpopular. This is how political careers die.</quote> Nah, no one will care about this in 2020 and the Senate is a lock for the GOP in 2018.</quote> Premiums will rise 20% every year from now until 2026. This will hurt Republicans massively. They'll keep the Senate more than likely via logistics. They will struggle to keep the House and by 2020 both will be gone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not_an_Owl 07/27/17 11:31:07 PM #367:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Not_an_Owl posted... Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony. Obamacare was passed when the Dems had a supermajority and could do whatever they wanted. Can't really be bipartisan there. You're right, Dems could have passed anything they wanted. They could have rammed it through with absolutely zero Republican input, they could have written the bill in secret and only revealed the full text an hour before the vote, they could have done everything McConnell is doing here. But they didn't. They deliberately took Republican input when they didn't have to because they wanted the bill to be bipartisan. The fact that no GOP lawmaker voted for the final bill isn't on Democrats, it's on the GOP lawmakers who refused to vote for the final bill. There is absolutely no equivalence here, and your attempts to pretend there is are incredibly disingenuous. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. <cite>Not_an_Owl posted [p:883732304] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Not_an_Owl posted...</cite> <quote>Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony.</quote> Obamacare was passed when the Dems had a supermajority and could do whatever they wanted. Can't really be bipartisan there.</quote> You're right, Dems could have passed anything they wanted. They could have rammed it through with absolutely zero Republican input, they could have written the bill in secret and only revealed the full text an hour before the vote, they could have done everything McConnell is doing here. But they didn't. They deliberately took Republican input when they didn't have to because they wanted the bill to be bipartisan. The fact that no GOP lawmaker voted for the final bill isn't on Democrats, it's on the GOP lawmakers who refused to vote for the final bill. There is absolutely no equivalence here, and your attempts to pretend there is are incredibly disingenuous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/27/17 11:32:14 PM #368:	Pence is pulling up. Looks like this is gonna pass? --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:883732360] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>Pence is pulling up. Looks like this is gonna pass?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 07/27/17 11:32:19 PM #369:	guys somehow i get the feeling this debate isn't in good faith --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:883732368] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>guys somehow i get the feeling this debate isn't in good faith</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 07/27/17 11:33:04 PM #370:	We knew this was going to pass a while ago, keep up. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:883732414] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>We knew this was going to pass a while ago, keep up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/27/17 11:33:08 PM #371:	Not_an_Owl posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... Not_an_Owl posted... Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony. Obamacare was passed when the Dems had a supermajority and could do whatever they wanted. Can't really be bipartisan there. You're right, Dems could have passed anything they wanted. They could have rammed it through with absolutely zero Republican input, they could have written the bill in secret and only revealed the full text an hour before the vote, they could have done everything McConnell is doing here. But they didn't. They deliberately took Republican input when they didn't have to because they wanted the bill to be bipartisan. The fact that no GOP lawmaker voted for the final bill isn't on Democrats, it's on the GOP lawmakers who refused to vote for the final bill. There is absolutely no equivalence here, and your attempts to pretend there is are incredibly disingenuous. Good thing voters agreed and all those Dems still have jobs right? ;) --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:883732417] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Not_an_Owl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Not_an_Owl posted...</cite> <quote>Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony.</quote> Obamacare was passed when the Dems had a supermajority and could do whatever they wanted. Can't really be bipartisan there.</quote> You're right, Dems could have passed anything they wanted. They could have rammed it through with absolutely zero Republican input, they could have written the bill in secret and only revealed the full text an hour before the vote, they could have done everything McConnell is doing here. But they didn't. They deliberately took Republican input when they didn't have to because they wanted the bill to be bipartisan. The fact that no GOP lawmaker voted for the final bill isn't on Democrats, it's on the GOP lawmakers who refused to vote for the final bill. There is absolutely no equivalence here, and your attempts to pretend there is are incredibly disingenuous.</quote> Good thing voters agreed and all those Dems still have jobs right? ;)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not_an_Owl 07/27/17 11:33:48 PM #372:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Not_an_Owl posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... Not_an_Owl posted... Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony. Obamacare was passed when the Dems had a supermajority and could do whatever they wanted. Can't really be bipartisan there. You're right, Dems could have passed anything they wanted. They could have rammed it through with absolutely zero Republican input, they could have written the bill in secret and only revealed the full text an hour before the vote, they could have done everything McConnell is doing here. But they didn't. They deliberately took Republican input when they didn't have to because they wanted the bill to be bipartisan. The fact that no GOP lawmaker voted for the final bill isn't on Democrats, it's on the GOP lawmakers who refused to vote for the final bill. There is absolutely no equivalence here, and your attempts to pretend there is are incredibly disingenuous. Good thing voters agreed and all those Dems still have jobs right? ;) Keep on moving those goalposts, bro. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. <cite>Not_an_Owl posted [p:883732457] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Not_an_Owl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Not_an_Owl posted...</cite> <quote>Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony.</quote> Obamacare was passed when the Dems had a supermajority and could do whatever they wanted. Can't really be bipartisan there.</quote> You're right, Dems could have passed anything they wanted. They could have rammed it through with absolutely zero Republican input, they could have written the bill in secret and only revealed the full text an hour before the vote, they could have done everything McConnell is doing here. But they didn't. They deliberately took Republican input when they didn't have to because they wanted the bill to be bipartisan. The fact that no GOP lawmaker voted for the final bill isn't on Democrats, it's on the GOP lawmakers who refused to vote for the final bill. There is absolutely no equivalence here, and your attempts to pretend there is are incredibly disingenuous.</quote> Good thing voters agreed and all those Dems still have jobs right? ;)</quote> Keep on moving those goalposts, bro.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/27/17 11:33:55 PM #373:	TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... transience posted... McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393 Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation. And that isn't gonna work because this is gonna kill Republicans chance to keep the congress and even the presidency in 2018 and 2020. This is massively unpopular. This is how political careers die. Nah, no one will care about this in 2020 and the Senate is a lock for the GOP in 2018. Premiums will rise 20% every year from now until 2026. This will hurt Republicans massively. They'll keep the Senate more than likely via logistics. They will struggle to keep the House and by 2020 both will be gone. If you think there won't be a fix by the end of the year, you're nuts --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:883732463] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>transience posted...</cite> <quote>McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393</quote> Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation.</quote> And that isn't gonna work because this is gonna kill Republicans chance to keep the congress and even the presidency in 2018 and 2020. This is massively unpopular. This is how political careers die.</quote> Nah, no one will care about this in 2020 and the Senate is a lock for the GOP in 2018.</quote> Premiums will rise 20% every year from now until 2026. This will hurt Republicans massively. They'll keep the Senate more than likely via logistics. They will struggle to keep the House and by 2020 both will be gone.</quote> If you think there won't be a fix by the end of the year, you're nuts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/27/17 11:35:15 PM #374:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Not_an_Owl posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... Not_an_Owl posted... Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony. Obamacare was passed when the Dems had a supermajority and could do whatever they wanted. Can't really be bipartisan there. You're right, Dems could have passed anything they wanted. They could have rammed it through with absolutely zero Republican input, they could have written the bill in secret and only revealed the full text an hour before the vote, they could have done everything McConnell is doing here. But they didn't. They deliberately took Republican input when they didn't have to because they wanted the bill to be bipartisan. The fact that no GOP lawmaker voted for the final bill isn't on Democrats, it's on the GOP lawmakers who refused to vote for the final bill. There is absolutely no equivalence here, and your attempts to pretend there is are incredibly disingenuous. Good thing voters agreed and all those Dems still have jobs right? ;) Dems pass a flawed bill that is actually working but people are still struggling with rising costs so they get annoyed. Republicans are about to pass a law that will have premiums rise even faster than they originally would for the next 8 years. This is political suicide. You are giving Dems the best ad ammunition for the next two election cycles. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:883732535] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Not_an_Owl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Not_an_Owl posted...</cite> <quote>Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony.</quote> Obamacare was passed when the Dems had a supermajority and could do whatever they wanted. Can't really be bipartisan there.</quote> You're right, Dems could have passed anything they wanted. They could have rammed it through with absolutely zero Republican input, they could have written the bill in secret and only revealed the full text an hour before the vote, they could have done everything McConnell is doing here. But they didn't. They deliberately took Republican input when they didn't have to because they wanted the bill to be bipartisan. The fact that no GOP lawmaker voted for the final bill isn't on Democrats, it's on the GOP lawmakers who refused to vote for the final bill. There is absolutely no equivalence here, and your attempts to pretend there is are incredibly disingenuous.</quote> Good thing voters agreed and all those Dems still have jobs right? ;)</quote> Dems pass a flawed bill that is actually working but people are still struggling with rising costs so they get annoyed. Republicans are about to pass a law that will have premiums rise even faster than they originally would for the next 8 years. This is political suicide. You are giving Dems the best ad ammunition for the next two election cycles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 07/27/17 11:35:56 PM #375:	guys, stop falling for the trap --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:883732571] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>guys, stop falling for the trap</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/27/17 11:36:16 PM #376:	Nelson_Mandela posted... TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... transience posted... McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393 Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation. And that isn't gonna work because this is gonna kill Republicans chance to keep the congress and even the presidency in 2018 and 2020. This is massively unpopular. This is how political careers die. Nah, no one will care about this in 2020 and the Senate is a lock for the GOP in 2018. Premiums will rise 20% every year from now until 2026. This will hurt Republicans massively. They'll keep the Senate more than likely via logistics. They will struggle to keep the House and by 2020 both will be gone. If you think there won't be a fix by the end of the year, you're nuts There won't be. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:883732587] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>transience posted...</cite> <quote>McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393</quote> Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation.</quote> And that isn't gonna work because this is gonna kill Republicans chance to keep the congress and even the presidency in 2018 and 2020. This is massively unpopular. This is how political careers die.</quote> Nah, no one will care about this in 2020 and the Senate is a lock for the GOP in 2018.</quote> Premiums will rise 20% every year from now until 2026. This will hurt Republicans massively. They'll keep the Senate more than likely via logistics. They will struggle to keep the House and by 2020 both will be gone.</quote> If you think there won't be a fix by the end of the year, you're nuts</quote> There won't be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 07/27/17 11:36:23 PM #377:	scarletspeed7 posted... LapisLazuli posted... Nobody answered me when I asked if there was any legit reason not to block him before. Which one? Only one of them is posting right now. --- **** Netflix <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:883732591] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>scarletspeed7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody answered me when I asked if there was any legit reason not to block him before.</quote> Which one?</quote> Only one of them is posting right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 07/27/17 11:37:19 PM #378:	LapisLazuli posted... scarletspeed7 posted... LapisLazuli posted... Nobody answered me when I asked if there was any legit reason not to block him before. Which one? Only one of them is posting right now. You said "before", so I was guessing one of 5 people. Do you mean Morgan_Freeman? --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:883732635] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scarletspeed7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody answered me when I asked if there was any legit reason not to block him before.</quote> Which one?</quote> Only one of them is posting right now.</quote> You said "before", so I was guessing one of 5 people. Do you mean Morgan_Freeman?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 07/27/17 11:38:02 PM #379:	The Mana Sword posted... guys, stop falling for the trap If I can do it, anyone can. --- **** Netflix <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:883732668] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Mana Sword posted...</cite> <quote>guys, stop falling for the trap</quote> If I can do it, anyone can.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/27/17 11:38:52 PM #380:	TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... Not_an_Owl posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... Not_an_Owl posted... Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony. Obamacare was passed when the Dems had a supermajority and could do whatever they wanted. Can't really be bipartisan there. You're right, Dems could have passed anything they wanted. They could have rammed it through with absolutely zero Republican input, they could have written the bill in secret and only revealed the full text an hour before the vote, they could have done everything McConnell is doing here. But they didn't. They deliberately took Republican input when they didn't have to because they wanted the bill to be bipartisan. The fact that no GOP lawmaker voted for the final bill isn't on Democrats, it's on the GOP lawmakers who refused to vote for the final bill. There is absolutely no equivalence here, and your attempts to pretend there is are incredibly disingenuous. Good thing voters agreed and all those Dems still have jobs right? ;) Dems pass a flawed bill that is actually working but people are still struggling with rising costs so they get annoyed. Republicans are about to pass a law that will have premiums rise even faster than they originally would for the next 8 years. This is political suicide. You are giving Dems the best ad ammunition for the next two election cycles. The GOP stayed on message. Dems can't focus on a single issue ever because they have too many minority causes to champion. Remember when everyone was talking exclusively about trans rights like 12 hours ago? --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:883732713] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Not_an_Owl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Not_an_Owl posted...</cite> <quote>Like, the double standard here is just mind-boggling, Seph. You're literally calling on Democrats to do the one thing your boy McConnell completely refused to do for the past 8 years with absolutely no trace of irony.</quote> Obamacare was passed when the Dems had a supermajority and could do whatever they wanted. Can't really be bipartisan there.</quote> You're right, Dems could have passed anything they wanted. They could have rammed it through with absolutely zero Republican input, they could have written the bill in secret and only revealed the full text an hour before the vote, they could have done everything McConnell is doing here. But they didn't. They deliberately took Republican input when they didn't have to because they wanted the bill to be bipartisan. The fact that no GOP lawmaker voted for the final bill isn't on Democrats, it's on the GOP lawmakers who refused to vote for the final bill. There is absolutely no equivalence here, and your attempts to pretend there is are incredibly disingenuous.</quote> Good thing voters agreed and all those Dems still have jobs right? ;)</quote> Dems pass a flawed bill that is actually working but people are still struggling with rising costs so they get annoyed. Republicans are about to pass a law that will have premiums rise even faster than they originally would for the next 8 years. This is political suicide. You are giving Dems the best ad ammunition for the next two election cycles.</quote> The GOP stayed on message. Dems can't focus on a single issue ever because they have too many minority causes to champion. Remember when everyone was talking exclusively about trans rights like 12 hours ago?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not_an_Owl 07/27/17 11:39:33 PM #381:	Nelson_Mandela posted... The GOP stayed on message. Dems can't focus on a single issue ever because they have too many minority causes to champion. Remember when everyone was talking exclusively about trans rights like 12 hours ago? Remember when you were one of them? Even got modded over it, as I recall. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. <cite>Not_an_Owl posted [p:883732747] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>The GOP stayed on message. Dems can't focus on a single issue ever because they have too many minority causes to champion. Remember when everyone was talking exclusively about trans rights like 12 hours ago?</quote> Remember when you were one of them? Even got modded over it, as I recall.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
velocycloraptor 07/27/17 11:40:29 PM #382:	TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... transience posted... McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393 Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation. And that isn't gonna work because this is gonna kill Republicans chance to keep the congress and even the presidency in 2018 and 2020. This is massively unpopular. This is how political careers die. don't be a dumbass. the gop has done horrible, unpopular things all the time and they still win because the democratic leadership is full of horrific centrists that make incredible numbers of voters not bother or vote third party. universal healthcare polls more popular than obama care or the gop repeal, but it will never happen because our elected leaders do not represent the views of the general public and never have. say horrible, racist, sociopathic shit on media watched by angry old people and you win, period...because the vast majority of people do not believe that good things can happen because the opposition to these people tells us things like "single payer healthcare will never, ever happen". and this makes regular people not bother with politics at all. this topic is a circlejerk of people who pay attention to the 24 hour media cycle and most people do not. it is over a year before midterms and several before the presidential election, there is no reason to believe this will matter. <cite>velocycloraptor posted [p:883732800] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>transience posted...</cite> <quote>McConnell can't be a genius if it took him 5-6 tries and ended up with a severely watered down bill of what they wanted to do. if this passes, it's probably a 50-50 one. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/890757738543931393</quote> Mitch doesn't care about the bill. We just want Obamacare dead to force the Democrats to work with the GOP to actually craft decent bipartisan legislation.</quote> And that isn't gonna work because this is gonna kill Republicans chance to keep the congress and even the presidency in 2018 and 2020. This is massively unpopular. This is how political careers die.</quote> don't be a dumbass. the gop has done horrible, unpopular things all the time and they still win because the democratic leadership is full of horrific centrists that make incredible numbers of voters not bother or vote third party. universal healthcare polls more popular than obama care or the gop repeal, but it will never happen because our elected leaders do not represent the views of the general public and never have. say horrible, racist, sociopathic shit on media watched by angry old people and you win, period...because the vast majority of people do not believe that good things can happen because the opposition to these people tells us things like "single payer healthcare will never, ever happen". and this makes regular people not bother with politics at all. this topic is a circlejerk of people who pay attention to the 24 hour media cycle and most people do not. it is over a year before midterms and several before the presidential election, there is no reason to believe this will matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/27/17 11:40:34 PM #383:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Dems can't focus on a single issue ever because they have too many minority causes to champion. They literally are giving them the biggest message of all. "Republicans are single handily responsible for your rising health care cost and loss of health care." It would be a god send for them. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:883732803] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Dems can't focus on a single issue ever because they have too many minority causes to champion. </quote> They literally are giving them the biggest message of all. "Republicans are single handily responsible for your rising health care cost and loss of health care." It would be a god send for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/27/17 11:42:38 PM #384:	velocycloraptor posted... it is over a year before midterms and several before the presidential election, there is no reason to believe this will matter. Seven years of railing against Obamacare worked. Because everyone in the US needs health care and putting the blame the other side is one of the most successful techniques in politics. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:883732912] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>velocycloraptor posted...</cite> <quote>it is over a year before midterms and several before the presidential election, there is no reason to believe this will matter.</quote> Seven years of railing against Obamacare worked. Because everyone in the US needs health care and putting the blame the other side is one of the most successful techniques in politics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 07/27/17 11:42:43 PM #385:	Dems focus on multiple issues because there ARE multiple issues and they're trying to actual make a difference. Reps focus on one issue because they know their fanbase is 80% morons and it's the only way they can ever win anything. If the GOP tried to split the discussion they would be incapable of ever getting a win. --- **** Netflix <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:883732916] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>Dems focus on multiple issues because there ARE multiple issues and they're trying to actual make a difference. Reps focus on one issue because they know their fanbase is 80% morons and it's the only way they can ever win anything. If the GOP tried to split the discussion they would be incapable of ever getting a win.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/27/17 11:43:07 PM #386:	TheRock1525 posted... velocycloraptor posted... it is over a year before midterms and several before the presidential election, there is no reason to believe this will matter. Seven years of railing against Obamacare worked. Because everyone in the US needs health care and putting the blame the other side is one of the most successful techniques in politics. So you're saying Obamacare was bad then --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:883732942] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>velocycloraptor posted...</cite> <quote>it is over a year before midterms and several before the presidential election, there is no reason to believe this will matter.</quote> Seven years of railing against Obamacare worked. Because everyone in the US needs health care and putting the blame the other side is one of the most successful techniques in politics.</quote> So you're saying Obamacare was bad then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pyresword 07/27/17 11:43:26 PM #387:	So what version of this bill is actually passing now? Or are they even passing a bill at all? --- Congratulations to BK_Sheikah00, this year's guru to achieve contest enlightenment! <cite>pyresword posted [p:883732959] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>So what version of this bill is actually passing now? Or are they even passing a bill at all?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/27/17 11:43:31 PM #388:	TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... Dems can't focus on a single issue ever because they have too many minority causes to champion. They literally are giving them the biggest message of all. "Republicans are single handily responsible for your rising health care cost and loss of health care." It would be a god send for them. You complained that I argued with Wang, yet you're here arguing with Seph --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:883732963] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Dems can't focus on a single issue ever because they have too many minority causes to champion. </quote> They literally are giving them the biggest message of all. "Republicans are single handily responsible for your rising health care cost and loss of health care." It would be a god send for them.</quote> You complained that I argued with Wang, yet you're here arguing with Seph</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/27/17 11:44:32 PM #389:	StealThisSheen posted... TheRock1525 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... Dems can't focus on a single issue ever because they have too many minority causes to champion. They literally are giving them the biggest message of all. "Republicans are single handily responsible for your rising health care cost and loss of health care." It would be a god send for them. You complained that I argued with Wang, yet you're here arguing with Seph For one thing, Seph doesn't post a novel's worth of text for every response. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:883733014] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Dems can't focus on a single issue ever because they have too many minority causes to champion. </quote> They literally are giving them the biggest message of all. "Republicans are single handily responsible for your rising health care cost and loss of health care." It would be a god send for them.</quote> You complained that I argued with Wang, yet you're here arguing with Seph</quote> For one thing, Seph doesn't post a novel's worth of text for every response.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 07/27/17 11:45:44 PM #390:	velocycloraptor posted... don't be a dumbass. the gop has done horrible, unpopular things all the time and they still win because the democratic leadership is full of horrific centrists that make incredible numbers of voters not bother or vote third party. universal healthcare polls more popular than obama care or the gop repeal, but it will never happen because our elected leaders do not represent the views of the general public and never have. say horrible, racist, sociopathic shit on media watched by angry old people and you win, period...because the vast majority of people do not believe that good things can happen because the opposition to these people tells us things like "single payer healthcare will never, ever happen". and this makes regular people not bother with politics at all. this topic is a circlejerk of people who pay attention to the 24 hour media cycle and most people do not. it is over a year before midterms and several before the presidential election, there is no reason to believe this will matter. WOah --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:883733066] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>velocycloraptor posted...</cite> <quote>don't be a dumbass. the gop has done horrible, unpopular things all the time and they still win because the democratic leadership is full of horrific centrists that make incredible numbers of voters not bother or vote third party. universal healthcare polls more popular than obama care or the gop repeal, but it will never happen because our elected leaders do not represent the views of the general public and never have. say horrible, racist, sociopathic shit on media watched by angry old people and you win, period...because the vast majority of people do not believe that good things can happen because the opposition to these people tells us things like "single payer healthcare will never, ever happen". and this makes regular people not bother with politics at all. this topic is a circlejerk of people who pay attention to the 24 hour media cycle and most people do not. it is over a year before midterms and several before the presidential election, there is no reason to believe this will matter.</quote> WOah</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/27/17 11:46:40 PM #391:	Nelson_Mandela posted... TheRock1525 posted... velocycloraptor posted... it is over a year before midterms and several before the presidential election, there is no reason to believe this will matter. Seven years of railing against Obamacare worked. Because everyone in the US needs health care and putting the blame the other side is one of the most successful techniques in politics. So you're saying Obamacare was bad then Obamacare was passed. Healthcare premiums rose at a lower rate than they would have without it, but they still rose. Republicans, wrongly, said it was all because of Obamacare and used it as their rallying point. They made significant gains across the land. Now they have to own their own bill that's gonna cause premiums to rise even faster. Republicans are in charge. People are gonna be pissed as their healthcare premiums rise. Republicans are gonna take a massive hit for it. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:883733113] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>velocycloraptor posted...</cite> <quote>it is over a year before midterms and several before the presidential election, there is no reason to believe this will matter.</quote> Seven years of railing against Obamacare worked. Because everyone in the US needs health care and putting the blame the other side is one of the most successful techniques in politics.</quote> So you're saying Obamacare was bad then</quote> Obamacare was passed. Healthcare premiums rose at a lower rate than they would have without it, but they still rose. Republicans, wrongly, said it was all because of Obamacare and used it as their rallying point. They made significant gains across the land. Now they have to own their own bill that's gonna cause premiums to rise even faster. Republicans are in charge. People are gonna be pissed as their healthcare premiums rise. Republicans are gonna take a massive hit for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 07/27/17 11:46:46 PM #392:	velocycloraptor posted... the gop has done horrible, unpopular things all the time and they still win because the democratic leadership is full of horrific centrists that make incredible numbers of voters not bother or vote third party. And if people like you had voted for those "horrific centrists" we wouldn't be in this mess --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:883733120] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>velocycloraptor posted...</cite> <quote>the gop has done horrible, unpopular things all the time and they still win because the democratic leadership is full of horrific centrists that make incredible numbers of voters not bother or vote third party. </quote> And if people like you had voted for those "horrific centrists" we wouldn't be in this mess</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 07/27/17 11:47:04 PM #393:	pyresword posted... So what version of this bill is actually passing now? Or are they even passing a bill at all? They are. (Edit: I should note they haven't voted on it yet, but all signs point to them voting on it imminently, some time in the next few hours) They're passing a "skinny repeal" which isn't actually "skinny" at all but a plan that looks as though it was designed to pass the House and be signed as law. It's something they wrote up a few hours ago (not even kidding) CBO says 15-16 million lose insurance by next year and premiums will rise 20% every year from now until 2026. A number of Senators are signaling they intend to vote for this bill because Ryan promised them that they would change/fix this bill in conference between the House and Senate (which would then cause both chambers to vote on the final bill). However, Ryan would have the ability to accept the Senate bill as-is which would mean the Senate wouldn't vote again (because they'd have already passed it) and only the House would need to vote on it to send it to Trump. It seems like this is the more likely outcome but no one is sure. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:883733135] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>pyresword posted...</cite> <quote>So what version of this bill is actually passing now? Or are they even passing a bill at all?</quote> They are. (Edit: I should note they haven't voted on it yet, but all signs point to them voting on it imminently, some time in the next few hours) They're passing a "skinny repeal" which isn't actually "skinny" at all but a plan that looks as though it was designed to pass the House and be signed as law. It's something they wrote up a few hours ago (not even kidding) CBO says 15-16 million lose insurance by next year and premiums will rise 20% every year from now until 2026. A number of Senators are signaling they intend to vote for this bill because Ryan promised them that they would change/fix this bill in conference between the House and Senate (which would then cause both chambers to vote on the final bill). However, Ryan would have the ability to accept the Senate bill as-is which would mean the Senate wouldn't vote again (because they'd have already passed it) and only the House would need to vote on it to send it to Trump. It seems like this is the more likely outcome but no one is sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/27/17 11:48:00 PM #394:	I'm so fucking happy right now. EIGHT fucking years we've been waiting for this. Four Congressional elections, two presidential elections. All on the promise to get rid of Obamacare. I honestly never thought it would really happen. --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:883733188] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>I'm so fucking happy right now. EIGHT fucking years we've been waiting for this. Four Congressional elections, two presidential elections. All on the promise to get rid of Obamacare. I honestly never thought it would really happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 07/27/17 11:49:25 PM #395:	Republicans will do just fine in 2018 and 2020, as long as they repeal Obamacare. As for their hypocrisy in strongarming Democrats to working with them now when they refused to work with Democrats before, there is a Latin saying: Vae victis. Said by a Celtic leader who conquered Rome, but I think it's fair to say, adopted by the Roman Republic and then Empire as they embarked on conquest. Live by the sword, die by the sword. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:883733270] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>Republicans will do just fine in 2018 and 2020, as long as they repeal Obamacare. As for their hypocrisy in strongarming Democrats to working with them now when they refused to work with Democrats before, there is a Latin saying: Vae victis. Said by a Celtic leader who conquered Rome, but I think it's fair to say, adopted by the Roman Republic and then Empire as they embarked on conquest. Live by the sword, die by the sword.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/27/17 11:49:31 PM #396:	It does seem that it has the votes. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:883733274] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>It does seem that it has the votes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 07/27/17 11:49:57 PM #397:	Nelson_Mandela posted... I'm so fucking happy right now. EIGHT fucking years we've been waiting for this. Four Congressional elections, one presidential election. All on the promise to get rid of Obamacare. I honestly never thought it would really happen. I really do imagine you sitting in a room with no decorations at a wooden table with a wall-hanging clock ticking for eight years, your hands folded on the tabletop, patiently waiting for someone to enter with an envelope containing a note reading, "Obamacare is over." --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:883733299] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>I'm so fucking happy right now. EIGHT fucking years we've been waiting for this. Four Congressional elections, one presidential election. All on the promise to get rid of Obamacare. I honestly never thought it would really happen.</quote> I really do imagine you sitting in a room with no decorations at a wooden table with a wall-hanging clock ticking for eight years, your hands folded on the tabletop, patiently waiting for someone to enter with an envelope containing a note reading, "Obamacare is over."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 07/27/17 11:50:09 PM #398:	red sox 777 posted... Republicans will do just fine in 2018 and 2020, as long as they repeal Obamacare. I rather doubt that. But I suppose there's nothing to do but wait and see on that. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:883733311] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>Republicans will do just fine in 2018 and 2020, as long as they repeal Obamacare.</quote> I rather doubt that. But I suppose there's nothing to do but wait and see on that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 07/27/17 11:50:21 PM #399:	LordoftheMorons posted... velocycloraptor posted... the gop has done horrible, unpopular things all the time and they still win because the democratic leadership is full of horrific centrists that make incredible numbers of voters not bother or vote third party. And if people like you had voted for those "horrific centrists" we wouldn't be in this mess We also wouldn't be if "people like you" had voted for Bernie Sanders. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:883733325] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote><cite>velocycloraptor posted...</cite> <quote>the gop has done horrible, unpopular things all the time and they still win because the democratic leadership is full of horrific centrists that make incredible numbers of voters not bother or vote third party. </quote> And if people like you had voted for those "horrific centrists" we wouldn't be in this mess</quote> We also wouldn't be if "people like you" had voted for Bernie Sanders.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/27/17 11:50:40 PM #400:	scarletspeed7 posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... I'm so fucking happy right now. EIGHT fucking years we've been waiting for this. Four Congressional elections, one presidential election. All on the promise to get rid of Obamacare. I honestly never thought it would really happen. I really do imagine you sitting in a room with no decorations at a wooden table with a wall-hanging clock ticking for eight years, your hands folded on the tabletop, patiently waiting for someone to enter with an envelope containing a note reading, "Obamacare is over." And when you read it, you let out a sigh of relief, pick up the pistol that has accrued dust for eight years across from your hands, and blow your own brains out, since your greatest dream has been realized. Suicide isn't funny --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:883733345] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote><cite>scarletspeed7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>I'm so fucking happy right now. EIGHT fucking years we've been waiting for this. Four Congressional elections, one presidential election. All on the promise to get rid of Obamacare. I honestly never thought it would really happen.</quote> I really do imagine you sitting in a room with no decorations at a wooden table with a wall-hanging clock ticking for eight years, your hands folded on the tabletop, patiently waiting for someone to enter with an envelope containing a note reading, "Obamacare is over." And when you read it, you let out a sigh of relief, pick up the pistol that has accrued dust for eight years across from your hands, and blow your own brains out, since your greatest dream has been realized.</quote> Suicide isn't funny</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/27/17 11:50:47 PM #401:	Except Obamacare isn't dead with this vote unless the House moves forward with a quick turnaround vote and actually doesn't go to committee. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:883733352] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>Except Obamacare isn't dead with this vote unless the House moves forward with a quick turnaround vote and actually doesn't go to committee.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 07/27/17 11:51:14 PM #402:	God Seph is such a little sad worm. --- **** Netflix <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:883733379] in Politics C... [t:75607094]...</cite> <quote>God Seph is such a little sad worm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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