Board 8 > Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius Topic 33 - Blame Yourself or Gumi

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Lopen
07/29/17 3:48:17 PM
#152:


Hey cool got Knight Delita from daily pull.

Game really wants me to use FFT guys and Lightning element lately.

That LB looks really cool I may want to put him on my team. I'll slot him as my friend unit for now though he's gonna be 5* for a while. Gotta max that LB
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RaidenZeroX
07/29/17 3:49:49 PM
#153:


Congrats! I read his review earlier and that limit is insane, especially when maxed.

He was also rated as a better long term chainer than Orlandeau and Aileen (not sure how true that is based on their JP rankings though).
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The Mana Sword
07/29/17 3:53:54 PM
#154:


KD isn't rated as high as either of them in the long run. He's a strong, but not top tier unit.
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Lopen
07/29/17 4:05:27 PM
#155:


I'm going to slot him as more of a supportive unit anyway. Probably gonna take the slot Snow has been taking.
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Lopen
07/29/17 4:22:54 PM
#156:


Got some questions about element chaining

What is the interaction with other elements being thrown in there

If I have say four Tidus doing a buncha quick hits for like a 50 hit water element chain

Say I throw Delita in there. He uses his 8 hit Lightning attack. How is that interacting. Is the Lightning disrupting the potency of the water element chain even if the chain continues, or is it just not gaining as much, but the Tiduses are still racking up the water element chain they had.

Now what if he uses that with a water elemental sword. Is his lightning attack considered both elements and benefitting just like a water attack would?

And does the Lightning Element Add status make an attack pure lightning even if the weapon is a different element or not

Basically just trying to figure out how difficult chaining becomes if you toss a second element in.
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crazygamer999
07/29/17 4:30:09 PM
#157:


Lopen posted...
Say I throw Delita in there. He uses his 8 hit Lightning attack. How is that interacting. Is the Lightning disrupting the potency of the water element chain even if the chain continues, or is it just not gaining as much, but the Tiduses are still racking up the water element chain they had.


If I remember correctly, off-elements do break the chain.

Now what if he uses that with a water elemental sword. Is his lightning attack considered both elements and benefitting just like a water attack would?


Yes. In that case, it would continue the chain. ( cause it splits the attack into 50% each element)

And does the Lightning Element Add status make an attack pure lightning even if the weapon is a different element or not


No- if there are other elements involved, the attack is split with them as well.
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Lopen
07/29/17 4:35:45 PM
#158:


So basically if I give Delita a water sword he can play nice with my Tidus team if I go hard on chaining. That's good to know. Really sucks that X-Death has no water elemental option though.

Someday we'll get an item that gives Waterja or something.
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The Mana Sword
07/29/17 5:50:15 PM
#159:


give Exdeath Siren and he can have Water!!
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Fiyun
07/29/17 6:02:42 PM
#160:


Nice! Do keep in mind Knight Delita only really plays nice with himself though.
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RaidenZeroX
07/29/17 6:11:22 PM
#161:


Fiyun posted...
Nice! Do keep in mind Knight Delita only really plays nice with himself though.


Given how Tactics ended, that doesn't surprise me!
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GANON1025
07/29/17 6:16:54 PM
#162:


I've found knight Deita friends to be traps because I cannot easily beat the stage with them instead of a fellow agrias
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voltch
07/29/17 6:18:03 PM
#163:


7 wipes

I have got to stop bringing Merc ramza with me.

Nearly all of them on my list are Excalibur only
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RaidenZeroX
07/29/17 6:54:00 PM
#164:


Delita is easy to win with. A decent one with no holy weapon can one shot the boss with his finishing attack. Then the rest of my team just bladeblitzes the fodder.
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GANON1025
07/29/17 8:40:24 PM
#165:


I find if I try that, the other guys overwhelm my team too easily. I need to kill them off in the first round.
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RaidenZeroX
07/29/17 11:58:52 PM
#166:


I have everybody with Fire weapons and I just have all five of them use bladeblitz. The fodder dies and the main boss is at 3/8 HP. If the companion unit can't do that much, my lead Agrias is generally still alive and can finish it with Divine Ruination or an Esper summon.
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PhoenixFey
07/29/17 11:59:49 PM
#167:


Double Ultima scared the crap out of me, but Agrias scraped by with double digit HP remaining
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Lopen
07/30/17 12:01:18 AM
#168:


I assume everyone who is having issues is trying to run a full bonus party right. I'm just taking the hit and running 5 bonus +X-Death
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Kinglicious
07/30/17 12:13:44 AM
#169:


Yeah, full party is like that. Even with Agrias at 6* it's not quite enough, usually I get another good support and it works fine.

But if its Excalibur, whoops
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Asagi_Igawa
07/30/17 12:29:31 AM
#170:


3x Gaffgarion trash
1x Gaffgarion proper
1x Agrias
1x 100% bonus friend
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GANON1025
07/30/17 12:38:09 AM
#171:


4 bad Gaffgarions, 1 bad Agrias, 1 good Agrias is what I am running. The other members do help chaining bladeblitz for the final battle, at least. And with an Agrias friend it's not really an issue to beat the stage.
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Horith
07/30/17 12:44:43 AM
#172:


Definitely don't have a full bonus party, but it does let me bring either Zarg or Ashe as well as Tidus, so I'll take the slowdown on collecting in exchange for actually beating the stage. Tidus isn't quite strong enough to solo everything, but he manages to do fairly well for himself through most of the stage.
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crazygamer999
07/30/17 1:13:42 AM
#173:


My Agrias is a but weak, so I still need D. Fina to carry, but the rest is fine.
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RaidenZeroX
07/30/17 7:59:26 AM
#174:


Bad Agrias
Bad Gaffgarion
Decent Agrias
Bad Gaffgarion
Good Agrias
Friend 100%
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Horith
07/30/17 12:00:53 PM
#175:


Bit the bullet and just threw all of my cactuars into Setzer and Agrias. I really didn't have much else worth leveling (except maybe Marie, but I'm fine letting Expeditions do their work), and this lets me start building up an Arena team as well as a unit to eventually work with the old man if her enhancements hit after I build up a good stock of crysts.

I also got my second Ingus from my daily. I know the banner sucks, but I'm still in need of a good stock of TMRs, and this will help Ashe get on the road to being a fantastic unit. Eventually.

Speaking of, I'm nearing the point where I can get my second TMR. My understanding is that I should build up one unit as completely as possible (in this case Tidus), as that makes content like events more easily soloable, so that's what I'm doing. Assuming that's right, at this point my choice is between Dark Knight Soul and Brotherhood. I've only got one Leon, so I can't build him up nice and quickly. DKS would get me more attack, I think pushing me into the mid 700's if the unit calculator is right, but Brotherhood would let me more easily take advantage of Tidus' Imperil without having to use a turn for Jecht Shot. Honestly, I'm leaning more towards Brotherhood so that it also frees up Razzmatazz to go elsewhere, but I would still like some input.
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PhoenixFey
07/30/17 12:41:00 PM
#176:


Brotherhood could also be slapped on a 2nd unit to Chain water with someone else.

I'd go for Brotherhood first, DKS second. That's how I did it
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Horith
07/30/17 1:34:22 PM
#177:


I could also go for an Aqua Blade to do the same thing for element chaining, but the only other chainers I have are Agrias, Aileen, and Setzer, and none of them chain with Tidus all that well. But that's also a possibility if I want to build a second attacking unit instead of buffing up Tidus.
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crazygamer999
07/30/17 8:52:15 PM
#178:


Dark Vertias fight was dirty- dispel/buff, then whack with Dark damage, seems legit.
At least Citra finally gets some love from Raegen, despite all her bullshit.

But of course, the story is never over- guess we're killing Hess's lackeys, now.

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Fiyun
07/31/17 3:58:52 AM
#179:


Rosa *6

3298hp,Â185mp, 114 atk, 117 def, 132 mag, 154spr.

Lb: AoE Recover 76% HP, 20% MP -> AoE Recover 100% HP, 44% MP

Esunaga

Separate remove ST atk/mag/def/spr debuff.

Holy

Araise

200% AoE 6 Hit Magic Attack w/ 100% of SPR as MAG

+30% ATK/SPR when equipped with Bow

20% hp

Random 50/50 shot using
AoE ~1250 HP Heal w/ 4.5x Mod & AoE Cure All Ailments or AoE ~1250 HP Heal w/ 4.5x Mod & AoE Remove DEF/SPR.
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Fiyun
07/31/17 4:05:07 AM
#180:


Enhancer + from beating the roided up Intangir is 106 atk, 23 mag, 10%hp, 20%mag.
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PhoenixFey
07/31/17 5:22:29 AM
#181:


Surprise early maintenance from Tuesday 1 August 23:00 to Wednesday 2 August 07:00 PDT

8 hours?

The hell are they planning to do?
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voltch
07/31/17 5:46:18 AM
#182:


Nier obv
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Fiyun
07/31/17 5:46:43 AM
#183:


2B takes time to transfer in glorious 4k to BE I guess...
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Fiyun
07/31/17 6:02:04 AM
#185:


Intangir's upgrade.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/205385525899689984/341491952455385089/image.png

Can't dodge.

Alternates 200% buffs.

Uses a 750% aoe ignore 50% spr 11 hit on thresholds.

Pre-emptive self-buff, and drops meteor I think?
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RaidenZeroX
07/31/17 11:26:20 AM
#186:


I saw the 45 million HP and was shocked at the HP jump until I noticed it was for JP. Looking forward to this one when it hits GL!
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Asagi_Igawa
07/31/17 11:29:10 AM
#187:


I mean

Technically the long way to beat Aigaion had you bust through 62 million HP.

Goddamn Left Arm
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Fiyun
07/31/17 11:41:03 AM
#188:


Remember that Ifrit *3 is in the 50m hp range, with - 100% imperil reserved for your butt if you don't have access to Mistair at that point.
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RaidenZeroX
07/31/17 12:13:31 PM
#189:


I did the short route on Aigaion. Fryevia is just so good.
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Fiyun
07/31/17 12:44:47 PM
#190:


L'il Rydia. (*5)

TMR: +40% MAG/+20% SPR & Increase Summon Damage 10%

3289HP / 190MP / 78ATK/ 112DEF / 152MAG / 140SPR

LB: AoE 40 Hits (5 Fr) 1520%/2000% Hybrid (Uses both MAG/SPR) (?)

Magic: Thundaga/Blizzaga/Bioga/Osmose/Drain/Esuna/Raise/Curaja/Flare/Death/Meteor

Quake, 275% AoE 8 Hit Earth Magic Attack & AoE 3 Turn -50% Earth Resist

Tornado, 250% AoE 12 Hit Wind Magic Attack & AoE 3 Turn -50% Wind Resist.

Abilities:

Summon any esper present in party just like Yuna/Garnet/Eiko.

Consume 1 Orbs from Esper Gauge, ST 5 Hits (10 Fr) 500% Hybrid (Uses both MAG/SPR) (?)

Virus/stone proof.

30%MP.

60% total esper dmg boost comparable to the others. (Although our Dagger will be 70% IF you enhance her.)

50%MAG

20%SPR

+30% ATK/DEF/HP/MAG/SPR/MP Equipped Esper

DC Black Magic.

Auto-refresh.

Consume 5 Orbs from Esper Gauge
ST 1 Hit 1600% Water Hybrid (Uses both MAG/SPR) (?) & 30% Paralyze

Fill Summon Gauge 3 ES & Self 3 Turn +80% ATK/DEF/MAG/SPR & Grant Firaja [28 MP], Consume 5 Orbs from Esper Gauge ST 1 Hit 1800% Fire Hybrid (Uses both MAG/SPR) (?) For 1 Use.
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The Mana Sword
07/31/17 12:46:35 PM
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Fiyun
07/31/17 12:50:05 PM
#192:


The spoony bard. (*3-5)

TMR: 36 DEF 36 SPR Clothes, 25 Fire/Ice/Thunder/Light/Dark Resist, Skills: [MP+15%] +15% MP

LB: +55% ATK/DEF/MAG/SPR while Singing (3 Turns) & AoE ~4500 HP Heal w/ 2x Mod while Singing split over 3 Turns & AoE ~60 MP Heal w/ 0.1x Mod while Singing split over 3 Turns ->

+74% ATK/DEF/MAG/SPR while Singing (3 Turns) & AoE ~4500 HP Heal w/ 2x Mod while Singing split over 3 Turns & AoE ~60 MP Heal w/ 0.1x Mod while Singing split over 3 Turns

2050HP / 115MP / 76ATK / 88DEF / 99MAG/ 109SPR

Abilities:

Hide.

Shitty songs we already have.

20%def, 20%SPR

AoE +50% ATK/MAG while Singing (3 Turns) & AoE 3 Turn -40% ATK/MAG Debuff to enemies.

AoE 40% ATK/DEF/MAG/SPR while Singing (3 Turns) & AoE ~2500 HP Heal w/ 8x Mod while Singing split over 3 Turns & AoE ~15 MP Heal w/ 0.5x Mod while Singing split over 3 Turns
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Fiyun
07/31/17 12:55:26 PM
#193:


Fabulous Kain (*5)

TMR: 40 ATK 28 DEF Helm, 20 Water/Wind Resist

LB 450% ST 1 Hit Physical Attack + Ignore 50% DEF -> 570% ST 1 Hit Physical Attack + Ignore 50% DEF

3653HP / 155MP / 155ATK / 135DEF / 115MAG / 119SPR

+100% Poison/Blind/Paralyze Resist

Lance/Dragon-killer/High-Jump/Dragon Dive/Dragoon spirit/spear boost 70% atk/+20% SPR

ST Stat Buff Removal & ST 3 Turn -50% Dark Resist

350% ST 11 Hit (8 Fr) Physical Attack & ST 5 Turn -50% Dark Resist & 5 Turn Add Dark to Attacks

ST Stat Buff Removal & ST 3 Turn -50% Water Resist

350% ST 11 Hit (8 Fr) Physical Attack & ST 5 Turn -50% Water Resist & 5 Turn Add Water to Attacks

ST Stat Buff Removal & ST 3 Turn -50% Wind Resist

350% ST 11 Hit (8 Fr) Physical Attack & ST 5 Turn -50% Wind Resist & 5 Turn Add Wind to Attacks

+100% ATK after HP drops below 20% & +100% DEF after HP drops below 20% & +100% SPR after HP drops below 20%

2 Turn Jump + 600% ST 1 Hit Physical Attack

20%HP

225% ST 7 Hit (8 Fr) Physical Attack + Ignore 50% DEF & Evade Attacks (Max: 2) for 3 Turns
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Fiyun
07/31/17 1:01:41 PM
#194:


Yang(*4-6)

TMR:+40% ATK/+20% DEF when equipped with Knuckle. (materia)

3744HP / 112MP / 150ATK / 120DEF / 80MAG / 117SPR

LB: 600% AoE 12 Hit Physical Attack -> 840% AoE 12 Hit Physical Attack

Kick/200% ATK when Unarmed/DW Knuckles/50% knuckle mastery/15% Chance Dodge Physical Attack/Raging Fist/+30% HP/Brace/30%ATK

200% ATK per Use (600% Max) until Next Action

200% ST 6 Hit (8 Fr) Physical Attack + Ignore 50% DEF

Null ID (Use 2 in a turn: Blah [9 MP], Blah [3 MP], Blaha [2 MP], Blahaja [45 MP]) (And some 100% Sleep Resist, but they haven't worked out what Null exactly does.)
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crazygamer999
07/31/17 2:37:43 PM
#195:


from the reddit analysis, the FF4 banner is... ok?
I'd still pull on it, though.
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voltch
07/31/17 2:40:34 PM
#196:


Really need to cut down on the double 5s
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Lopen
07/31/17 3:10:05 PM
#197:


FF4 banner is garbage because of Kydia and a Kain reskin no one asked for.

Give me a 5* Yang and Edward over this.
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GANON1025
07/31/17 4:36:14 PM
#198:


Where's the big man himself, FuSoYa
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RaidenZeroX
07/31/17 5:08:24 PM
#199:


voltch posted...
Really need to cut down on the double 5s


This. Really kills the desire to use a ticket stock. That's one of the things that makes me lean towards saving everything for Ayaka instead of going after Dark Veritas, even though I'm probably going to end up going after him anyway.
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OlDirtyNumbers
07/31/17 5:14:44 PM
#200:


i like delita and ramza a lot so i'm getting an itchy trigger finger on this banner. i must stay strong. plz announce 2b soon
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Asagi_Igawa
07/31/17 6:40:13 PM
#201:


Huh

I did not realize I already reached my goal for planned Support Gian and Purecrysts spending. Really cuts back on my shopping and farming plans. Though still missing quite a few Support Mil and Heavycrysts... ehh, hopefully my luck for the next Story Event is better.

Power though... holy **** I'm way below the budget.
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RaidenZeroX
07/31/17 7:03:23 PM
#202:


I'm only getting power and support now. Barring a random 5*, I'm all set for tech and guard. Everything else is just bad.
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