Board 8 > A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 9 - Egg, I Dreamed that I Was Old

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I have been suckered in to Game of Thrones mafia at a local bar by my fiancé and her best friend so gonna be super sporadic for the next hour.

I have no idea what I'm doing.
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Give me a game of thrones pun for a team name
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Nanahara715 posted...

Give me a game of thrones pun for a team name

Stark Contrast
Hear Me Score
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Nanahara715 posted...

I have been suckered in to Game of Thrones mafia

>_>

Trivia?

lol
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bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

I have been suckered in to Game of Thrones mafia

>_>

Trivia?

lol

>.> yes
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Pulling out the chris playbook puns?

Leafeon13N posted...

Pulling out the chris playbook puns?

Not quite. Can't say that I've ever studied it. I am currently executing the page from the puns playbook where I finish eating dinner and reread the day
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Our team is the "A Team Has No Name" and I only get the reference because of Leo's claim.
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I would have gone with something Maester or Citadel related, but couldn't think of anything clever
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As far as I can tell, there are 110 minutes remaining.
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Just got home. Exhausting day, sorry.

Death aligning himself with Han on a lynch is... something.

As I said earlier I think both Han and Nana are scum so the order doesn't matter much to me.

Sorry that today was a wash for me participation wise. In case I die tonight and assuming Han is scum
Don't lynch vi
Don't lynch puns
Do Lynch death if he survives if Han flips blocker
Nana/KBM has a scum in it
I still don't know about red

When's deadline? Hour 45?
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https://youtu.be/yzvCGnuoVPc?t=54
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Started reading the day and it turned into iso Nana's day

Noticed Nana's first post of the day mentioned thoughts on everyone except Han and Red. Went on to count vanillas in the game and left out Han until a bit later when VI posted a claim list. When he says he favors a Han lynch, the reasoning was that Leo/Me were voting Han and he trusts us.

Nana, you never acknowledged the following post as far as I can tell.

Are you going to vote and why so little attention on Han? You've mentioned no reason to oppose Han's lynch but you've just watched from the sides.


bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

I'm pretty comfortable with Leo and Puns as town, so I would favor a Han lynch over the alternative lynch that has VI/MI on it.

The fact that right now the alternative lynch is me is immaterial, would probably favor the lynch led by my top two town reads over anyone.

Nanahara715 posted...

I remember Han being particularly oissed when I listed him as my 7th scum read of 13 and that seemed wildly over the top.

What do you think about Han's content today?

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And saying "I favor the [not me] lynch because I trust the people on it" is really a weird way to express support for a lynch
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I've been withholding my lynch because I wanted to let others decide what the major choices were. I'm going to do a reread of the whole game during the night to see if I can get my bearings more for Day 5. It's been taking more energy than I anticipated to keep up with all the different possible actions and whatnot.

Han is the right choice for today's lynch, but I don't see any benefit in ending the day early. If anybody has anything in particular they want me to say/answer before the deadline, I am around now!

Paraphrase your flavor for me?
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Leo3L posted...

Paraphrase your flavor for me?

Randyll Tarly - Head of one of Mace Tyrell's most powerful military families, got rid of his son Samwell in order to bring honor to the family name. Shades of irony in the write-up regarding Sam's return in the book.

That's basically it.

Nothing that says why you're a vanilla?
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Nope, just explains who the character is and then a generic description of the vanilla role.

KBM have your feelings about anyone town or scum changed since this day started?
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Interesting. VI had a justification. I forget if Pun's did or not.

Not that I'd ever meta something like this, of course
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

Nope, just explains who the character is and then a generic description of the vanilla role.

Umm

I recall vi saying he got a reason for being a vanilla

Other vanillas?
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Only thing I can add is that if Han flips scum Puns looks really good
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MI has looked better, VI has continued to look bad and is probably my #1 choice for a lynch right now if I could choose anybody.

The rest of my reads have stayed pretty constant, apart from Han taking a slight turn for the scummier based on both the reads of people I trust are town, and his continuing aloofness/irritability.

It's not expressly stated but I mean I jump around making armpit farts.
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I also think scum is getting super desperate and is trying to lynch me as I'm probably one of the only possible mislynches left (See: Nana and KBM)
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Also I know in this situation Chris would likely be instructing his scummates to go after me, since he knows I'm generally a really soft target as a vanilla (I admit, to my shame, it does take a lot more energy for me to provide any content when that's what I am), so if I came off defensive earlier in the day, it's probably at least partially because of a small suspicion that people who are going after me are being told to.

Vengeful_KBM posted...

Anyway, thoughts on the current state of the game. In fact, let's go one by one:

Puns - Probably town. The optics of the game have just worked better the whole time when I've made that assumption.

Han - I... don't know. He's seemed pointlessly irritable the whole game but I can't tell if it's an act or just "Han feeling irritable". No read.

Death - My gut earlier said that he was scum. He's my probable "sixth man" if we're assuming a six-man scumteam, but I could just as easily see him being town.

Jeff - Almost certainly town, unless Jeff shooting Chris was some kind of insane scum gambit to vindicate Jeff through to the end of the game. That small possibility keeps nagging at me, but that's something to pursue later (if there even is a later; I'm dreading this being a lylo situation).

Red - Probably scum. This is a gut feeling.

Leo - I have been mostly taking his claim as read, which is a read that only becomes stronger when MI tries to take it apart (see below). Town.

MI - Trying to spin my interactions with Chris into largely nonsensical points against me. I have said several times that my and Chris' interactions make sense regardless of our alignment so trying to pigeon-hole me into an alignment based on those interactions just because we have a flip on him is foolish. As I have said, I was prodding Chris a whole bunch of different ways to see how he would react, and had some material ready to use it against him on D3 so I could provide something. This admittedly looks horrible for me since I never got to use it and wasn't free apart from that, but there you go. I'm not entirely accustomed to him dying on N2 (although, again, my memory, I'm sure it's happened.) The icing on top of all of this is that to have a Jack on top of everything just feels like the last straw on the camel's back in terms of "power overload". My strongest scum read.

Nana - Town. I've seen nothing to change my mind back to my original read here - likely town Puns saying one of the two of us has to be scum doesn't really change that either, as I have to go with how I feel. He seems to genuine and too earnest in his cluelessness to be anything else (and if you are scum, well, you've played a surprisingly good game so good on you, but you're certainly not my target for today even though you probably expect to be).

VI - Pushing me very hard all of a sudden. I'm starting to think Chris might have been trying to pull one of his patented "lynches on a scum mate to make himself look better" with his insistence on the VI lynch at the end of Day 2.

Vengeful_KBM posted...

I've been withholding my lynch because I wanted to let others decide what the major choices were. I'm going to do a reread of the whole game during the night to see if I can get my bearings more for Day 5. It's been taking more energy than I anticipated to keep up with all the different possible actions and whatnot.

Han is the right choice for today's lynch, but I don't see any benefit in ending the day early. If anybody has anything in particular they want me to say/answer before the deadline, I am around now!

How did you get from A to B?
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Just know that I'm only really going after you because there just isn't that many others left that I see having a good chance of being scum

Nothing personal, of course
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...Because the other two choices are someone I feel is town and me?

VeryInsane posted...

1) bng_mmmk - Moon Boy, Vanilla
5) HanOfTheNekos - Edmure Tully, Vanilla
6) htaeD - Rorge, Thief
7) Jeff_Zero - Lady Stoneheart, Vig
8) Leafeon13N - Samwell Tarly, Vanilla
9) Leo3L - Guild of the Faceless Men, Dead Mason Recruiter and Backup
11) My_Immortal - Margarey Tyrell, Jack (Bus Drive, Track, Psychic)
13) Nanahara715 - Arys Oakheart, Vanilla
16) Vengeful_KBM - Randyll Tarly, Vanilla
17) VeryInsane - Arya Stark, Vanilla

Pretty sure this is correct?

for Reference
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It would be kind of hilarious if that was a copy/paste from the scumboard

Man I typed that from a phone that was tough

I had to retype Nana's name cause spell check wouldn't let me add to it
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1 hour remains
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

Red - Probably scum. This is a gut feeling.

VI - Pushing me very hard all of a sudden. I'm starting to think Chris might have been trying to pull one of his patented "lynches on a scum mate to make himself look better" with his insistence on the VI lynch at the end of Day 2.

Can you articulate your gut feeling about red?

And is there more to your suspicion of VI than the fact he's pressuring you and you think Chris's scum team would pressure you in this situation?
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I will say that if we lynch Han here and he's scum, I will feel significantly better about Red.

Leo3L posted...

Interesting. VI had a justification. I forget if Pun's did or not.

Not that I'd ever meta something like this, of course

I have justification.
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bng_mmmk posted...

Can you articulate your gut feeling about red?

It's based on years-old hazy memories, but I know I've played in games in the past where Red was scum, and I just have been having the nagging feeling that his play here is similar to what it was there. I also have been vacillating on what the interactions between him and Chris mean.


bng_mmmk posted...

And is there more to your suspicion of VI than the fact he's pressuring you and you think Chris's scum team would pressure you in this situation?

Ehhh. not as such. Again, I feel like I should have way stronger feelings about people at this point in the game and I'm just kinda not. Hence wanting to read through the game overnight (within reason - I probably won't bother with the first couple topics).

MI asked and I meant to quote him but w/e
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I'm beginning to get mildly suspicious now that VI and Han are the two vanillas who supposedly have justification for their roles in their PMs.

BUT I'm not gonna let myself jump too far down that rabbit hole

I mean, mine doesn't clearly say that it's why I'm a vanilla, but it does say that I have nothing and am just a prisoner.

I don't quite remember how VI phrased his.
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There are people I trust in this game and have town reads on but I can't say I have as strong feelings about anyone in the negative, so it's all a stretch in terms of absolutely wanting to lynch anybody.

I know Nana mentioned trivia but I would really like him to address my questions.
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I completely 100% accept Nana's excuse for not being here, but it is a little lame in the closing hour.

Especially when I made sure to be here instead of going out and meeting people.
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VeryInsane posted...

htaeD posted...

barring???

flavor...
I am being yelled at because I am not the Hound at all but just a stinking helmet thief and the whole world should know

Ok yeah that's what I would expect

I figure I should claim too:

Vanilla.

Had to give up everything to get into the House of Black and White.

It doesn't explicitly state that I'm a vanilla for that reason but yeah
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Thinking about red mentioning if he was scum with chris he'd have not made as much of a deal trying to get someone to counter the vig claim. I don't buy that because really, if someone countered Chris as vig in what world do we lynch one of them that day? I don't think it would really change a whole lot. Sure Chris would be questioned but we ended up lynching dowolf and he didn't even bring that lynch forward. And Shad probably still claims roleblocker and escapes that day. And scum might have had a way to keep Chris from being killed at night if they knew who the vig was.
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Back in my day vigilantes were discouraged to counter claim for that reason. I always thought Jeff played it right.
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

MI has looked better, VI has continued to look bad and is probably my #1 choice for a lynch right now if I could choose anybody.

The rest of my reads have stayed pretty constant, apart from Han taking a slight turn for the scummier based on both the reads of people I trust are town, and his continuing aloofness/irritability.

What have I done today to change your opinion?
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My Immortal posted...

What have I done today to change your opinion?

It's more a reevaluation than anything you've done since I made my initial post.

I dunno if Jeff counter claimed Chris I'd probably want to Lynch the guy who claimed the kill on the cop asap
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