Board 8 > A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 9 - Egg, I Dreamed that I Was Old

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##Vote: Nana

My infinite consortium agrees we start with this.

I still don't know what Scare's role does because Suprak is busy and Scare hasn't shown up yet.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Han's refusal to vote to save himself indicates to me that his lynch was preplanned. Unlikely KBM was involved based on her late vote.

Pre-planned "Han lynch" indicates to me that VI/MI not likely involved.

Puns probably scum because he started the Han lynch. Argument there is that after a mass claim, tracker was useless.

Death probably also scum because why is gen still alive? Why kill Jeff instead of Death? Outside chance at Red here.

More opinions later because I'm baking a cinnamon bun pie. But... hmmm.

Nana let's entertain this


You say KBM voted Han late and therefore KBM is likely town?

So does this indirectly say you're town since you supported a Han lynch all day but voted in the last 15 minutes?


Explain how MI and VI aren't scum.

You literally are going from "I will vote Han because I trust Leo/Puns"

to

"Puns is scum for starting the han lynch"


Can you provide a reason for this if I didn't poke you in the last two hours of the day?
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bng_mmmk posted...

You literally are going from "I will vote Han because I trust Leo/Puns"

to

"Puns is scum for starting the han lynch"

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bng_mmmk posted...

You say KBM voted Han late and therefore KBM is likely town?

So does this indirectly say you're town since you supported a Han lynch all day but voted in the last 15 minutes?

Yeah, he came up with this scenario that makes himself seem town.
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bng_mmmk posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

You literally are going from "I will vote Han because I trust Leo/Puns"

to

"Puns is scum for starting the han lynch"

Holy shit

https://www.maxim.com/.image/t_share/MTM5NjgyNTM3MjgxNjkzMTg5/splat-1gif.gif
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So, um, I know what Scare's role does now

The answer may surprise you
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Do tell!
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Agreed, let's hear it

I need Scare himself to verify something before I do. But it's going to make today quite interesting, which is good because Nana kind of shit the bed immediately in an impressive bid to die faster than coma Shad and cranky Han.
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bng_mmmk posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

You literally are going from "I will vote Han because I trust Leo/Puns"

to

"Puns is scum for starting the han lynch"

I can't stop laughing at this
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Nanahara715 posted...

I'm pretty comfortable with Leo and Puns as town, so I would favor a Han lynch over the alternative lynch that has VI/MI on it.

The fact that right now the alternative lynch is me is immaterial, would probably favor the lynch led by my top two town reads over anyone.

Nanahara715 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

There's also zero reason to doubt MI at this point, upon n thinking

Leo said Boko guarded Stan, correct? So that basically verifies the bus drive unless it's Leo/MI (Good grief Town would be weak then)

Why did you start the Day attacking MI though, last question I swear I'm about to unlock the game

This post is a bunch of grade A bullshit.

All it says is Immy would be a confirmed bus driver but that doesn't tell us anything about his alignment because scum STILL knows there was a bus AND Chris was a Strongman and there's no definitive evidence either way that the bus would have stopped him.

Comedy Option: Scum MI busses scum buddy Puns with town Stan and Chris shoots Stan through the bus.

Now when anyone protects Stan, they get redirected to Puns. "Chris would have to be crazy to shoot scum teammate Puns" so if Puns flipped scum, Chris AND the bus driver look better, "Scum wouldn't bus drive scum teammate Puns just to shoot town Stan."

Basically, to arrive at the conclusion that Puns is scum, you would need to see a scum MI flip and a scum Chris flip, which is a lot of heavy lifting to get to that point.

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It's like over the night phase he looked at the player list and said 'oh crap we won't be able to mislynch enough people without puns'

Also the way red said he will feel if Han flipped scum
Is exactly how I will feel with Nana
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I don't think I follow what post 311 is supposed to mean
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I quoted the times Nana called you Town yesterday from this topic?
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How drunk are you tonight turbo?

He's illustrating more of a perspective swap of trusting you to you being scum since you... Lynched scum.
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Hold up, I just realized Nana was saying KBM was town for voting Nana late, not voting Han. That got lost in thought as I was reading. Strike that point maybe.
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I don't appreciate the assumption but it's true I've been drinking.

On a reread I guess it was the last bold line that confused me because it was leo assuming nana's point or something
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That's kind of like finding Nana neck deep in a pool of butchered children and saying "well, strike the point of you wearing suspicious shoes maybe"
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bng_mmmk posted...

alright assholes

scum get ready for a whoopin' cus I'm all liquored up and this ain't gonna be pretty

bng_mmmk posted...

I don't appreciate the assumption but it's true I've been drinking.

On a reread I guess it was the last bold line that confused me because it was leo assuming nana's point or something

CONTRADICTIONS FOR DAYS
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No joke, I wouldn't be surprised if Chris wrote that KBM post.

Leo3L posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

I'm pretty comfortable with Leo and Puns as town, so I would favor a Han lynch over the alternative lynch that has VI/MI on it.

The fact that right now the alternative lynch is me is immaterial, would probably favor the lynch led by my top two town reads over anyone.

Nanahara715 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

There's also zero reason to doubt MI at this point, upon n thinking

Leo said Boko guarded Stan, correct? So that basically verifies the bus drive unless it's Leo/MI (Good grief Town would be weak then)

Why did you start the Day attacking MI though, last question I swear I'm about to unlock the game

This post is a bunch of grade A bullshit.

All it says is Immy would be a confirmed bus driver but that doesn't tell us anything about his alignment because scum STILL knows there was a bus AND Chris was a Strongman and there's no definitive evidence either way that the bus would have stopped him.

Comedy Option: Scum MI busses scum buddy Puns with town Stan and Chris shoots Stan through the bus.

Now when anyone protects Stan, they get redirected to Puns. "Chris would have to be crazy to shoot scum teammate Puns" so if Puns flipped scum, Chris AND the bus driver look better, "Scum wouldn't bus drive scum teammate Puns just to shoot town Stan."

Basically, to arrive at the conclusion that Puns is scum, you would need to see a scum MI flip and a scum Chris flip, which is a lot of heavy lifting to get to that point.

Bold at the bottom is disengenuous because it doesn't reflect my thoughts but what I suspect a Puns/MI/Chris scum team would do with that bus drive claim.

Han flipping tracker changes things - there was no push back from the lynch, and it makes him look like a sacrifice.

AGAIN - he literally doesn't even vote for me to save himself. His vote on KBM is such a weird splinter if he ISNT being intentionally sacrificed.
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I mean if you say so

Sure sounds like your "top two town read" wasn't based on a read at all
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Heads up, my dad is in the middle of liver transplant surgery right now. Going to have a very busy couple of days or so.

Leo3L posted...

I mean if you say so

Sure sounds like your "top two town read" wasn't based on a read at all

Shit changes when new information is presented.

Information gathered between my statement and Han's flip:

-Han does absolutely fuckall to save himself.
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oh god
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sorry, to be clear 324 was response to 319
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Nanahara715 posted...

Han flipping tracker changes things - there was no push back from the lynch, and it makes him look like a sacrifice.

AGAIN - he literally doesn't even vote for me to save himself. His vote on KBM is such a weird splinter if he ISNT being intentionally sacrificed.

So when you said you truted the Han lynch and the fact that you were the opposing lynch was immaterial that just depending on han being unimportant scum? Would have been a good qualifier to mention at the time ;maybe
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bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Han flipping tracker changes things - there was no push back from the lynch, and it makes him look like a sacrifice.

AGAIN - he literally doesn't even vote for me to save himself. His vote on KBM is such a weird splinter if he ISNT being intentionally sacrificed.

So when you said you truted the Han lynch and the fact that you were the opposing lynch was immaterial that just depending on han being unimportant scum? Would have been a good qualifier to mention at the time ;maybe

WCS.
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what
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...Nana, do you actually think we are elitist? I've never seen you bring it up before at any point during mafia in the past.

I dunno that argument with Chris just feels out of place
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Lolo_Guru posted...

(Day 3 ending votals)
[6] Shad: Leo, Death, Jeff, MI, red, Han
[1] Han: Shad, (puns)

(Day 2 ending votals)
[7] dowolf: (KBM), (MI), (Death), Boko, (Leo), VI, Shad, MI, (KBM), (Leo), Jeff, KBM, Han
[6] VI: Nana, (Chris), dowolf, (Puns), (Chris), puns, Chris, Leo, red
[1] Puns: (Chris), (Shad), death
[0] Shad: (Puns), (Leo), (MI), (red), (Leo), (puns), (puns), (Chris), (KBM)
[0] Leo: (Chris)
[0] death: (VI), (Han), (MI), (KBM), (Shad)
[0] Jeff: (do-wolf)
[0] Nana: (MI)

(Day 1 ending votals)
[7] FFD: red, death, (Leo), KBM, Scare, Jeff, puns, Leo
[5] puns: Shad, Stan, Han, (dowolf), Nana, Scare2
[2] dowolf: (Chris), (MI), (Leo), MI, VI, (puns), (Leo)
[1] Han: (puns), FFD
[1] Leo: Chris, (MI)
[1] Nana: (Chris), (KBM), (MI), (KBM), (Stan),
[0] Chris: (puns), (Scare), (Nana)
[0] death: (VI)
[0] MysteriousStan: (Han), (dowolf), (Jeff Zero), (puns), (Leo), (death)
[0] Scare: (Leo), (Stan), (puns), (Death)
[0] Boko: (MI), (KBM)
[0] VI: (Chris)
[0] red: (VI), (KBM)
[0] MI: (puns)
[0] Jeff: (Nana)

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Oh geez, that's terrible Red.
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VeryInsane posted...

...Nana, do you actually think we are elitist? I've never seen you bring it up before at any point during mafia in the past.

I dunno that argument with Chris just feels out of place

Is this a serious fucking question?

Literally at the end of Day 3 Han (?) comes prancing in here all dolled up on some alt and is allowed to place a fucking hammer vote with no goddamned respect for the fact that multiple people here had no idea who the fuck it was. It IS SUPER FUCKING ELITIST to just assume everyone knows who the fuck you are and is going to respond appropriately.

I MAINTAIN that there should have been mod intervention in that situation.

That's just ONE example of the alienating rhetoric and actions that take place in these games.
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TheHanmerFalls

Hanmer

Han

Han
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For the record though Nana is THE person to bring up b8 elitism (maybe aside from Terra but Terra is 2nd I think)

He does it routinely both in and out of games
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bng_mmmk posted...

TheHanmerFalls

Hanmer

Han

Han

Whoopdee fucking do. I could make an alt named Mega Puns and pretend to hammer as you. Players shouldn't have to guess or wait for host confirmed votals just to know if Day has ended.

At the very least, it's inconsiderate and rude as fuck.
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Lowly mongrels
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Nanahara715 posted...

Literally at the end of Day 3 Han (?) comes prancing in here all dolled up on some alt

wait a second

after making a big objection post

did you not even check the votals
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Moving on-

For as much of an arrogant persona FFD had, he apparently had a fairly good repoire with b8.

At this point, we have no scum flips on him on Day 1.

For someone who insinuated he didn't get lynched, much less mislynched, does anyone believe there are ZERO scum on FFD?
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bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Literally at the end of Day 3 Han (?) comes prancing in here all dolled up on some alt

wait a second

after making a big objection post

did you not even check the votals

The ? Mark is my silent protest that it shouldn't have happened. Was it Han? Allegedly.
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I mean by saying that you are suggesting the host confirmed a lynch which shouldn't have happened

but regardless it was a 99% confirmed scum lynch so I don't even get why you're still talking about it
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bng_mmmk posted...

I mean by saying that you are suggesting the host confirmed a lynch which shouldn't have happened

but regardless it was a 99% confirmed scum lynch so I don't even get why you're still talking about it

It's a microaggression towards non-b8 players
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Nanahara715 posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

I mean by saying that you are suggesting the host confirmed a lynch which shouldn't have happened

but regardless it was a 99% confirmed scum lynch so I don't even get why you're still talking about it

It's a microaggression towards non-b8 players

Hit post on accident.

It's a microaggression towards non-b8 players. I'm talking about it because VI asked if I thought y'all were elitist- the inconsideration shown to Non-b8 players at the end of Day 3 is a part of that.

I didn't bring it up for no fucking reason - VI asked me, and I answered.
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that's fair

I mean I get your point, even though in the moment I and pretty much everyone knew what was happening you're right when you look at it black and white there isn't really much room to argue.
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bng_mmmk posted...

For the record though Nana is THE person to bring up b8 elitism (maybe aside from Terra but Terra is 2nd I think)

He does it routinely both in and out of games

Never saw it brought up by him before this game

But are we really that elitist with some of the people who routinely get let into games >_>
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VeryInsane posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

For the record though Nana is THE person to bring up b8 elitism (maybe aside from Terra but Terra is 2nd I think)

He does it routinely both in and out of games

Never saw it brought up by him before this game

But are we really that elitist with some of the people who routinely get let into games >_>

actually...I just went to the forum mafia board to pull up quotes and realized I was confusing IGCD with nana.
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If IGCD wants respect a good thing to do is to, well, not make the entire Day 1 about them self because you don't read your role pm when you actually do

(And not get modkilled. That would be swell)
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##Unvote

For now
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Did you get Scare's role down yet
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Scare has joined the party.

He was a double voter, a doctor, and once per game could make someone unlynchable.

N1 he saved Red because he thought the cop would die from role abilities and he did not think Chris was Town.

So. Even more power than we initially thought. I think this means MI almost has to be scum now. My mason board is more active than the game topic itself, trying to figure out if it's MI or Death who's lying. We're leaning MI.
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Nanahara715 posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Han flipping tracker changes things - there was no push back from the lynch, and it makes him look like a sacrifice.

AGAIN - he literally doesn't even vote for me to save himself. His vote on KBM is such a weird splinter if he ISNT being intentionally sacrificed.

So when you said you truted the Han lynch and the fact that you were the opposing lynch was immaterial that just depending on han being unimportant scum? Would have been a good qualifier to mention at the time ;maybe

WCS.

bng_mmmk posted...

what

wait I still have no idea what WCS means
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