Board 8 > A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 9 - Egg, I Dreamed that I Was Old

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Leo3L posted...

Scare has joined the party.

He was a double voter, a doctor, and once per game could make someone unlynchable.

N1 he saved Red because he thought the cop would die from role abilities and he did not think Chris was Town.

So. Even more power than we initially thought. I think this means MI almost has to be scum now. My mason board is more active than the game topic itself, trying to figure out if it's MI or Death who's lying. We're leaning MI.

the cop would die from role abilities? what?

Also if true yes MI looks hella bad.
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Strongman/Assassin
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##Vote: MI
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wait so does that mean he targets a player at night, and for the next day they are unlynchable?
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Leo3L posted...

Scare has joined the party.

He was a double voter, a doctor, and once per game could make someone unlynchable.

N1 he saved Red because he thought the cop would die from role abilities and he did not think Chris was Town.

So. Even more power than we initially thought. I think this means MI almost has to be scum now. My mason board is more active than the game topic itself, trying to figure out if it's MI or Death who's lying. We're leaning MI.

....Oh.

Man Suprak created a weird game. Thought it made sense for scum to have tracked MI but yeah. Wasn't expecting a lot of investment into the bus drive.

There... has to be a roleblocker in this game, right? Especially with how much flack Suprak got last game?
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Unlynchable is a day action. Like a preemptive mayor.
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By last game I meant ACOK
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Like I said, if scum has no roleblocker they need to concede.

Busdriver/Roleblocker for final two scum roles imo
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Euron is a good roleblocker flavor too, he cuts off his crew's tongues etc
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A votals a day keeps the (co)host lynching away.

Nana[1]: KBM, (Leo)
MI[1]: Leo

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch! Day ends on Friday at 9 PM!
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Scare thinks Nana is Town and MI is scum based solely on play reasons without getting into the set up meta. Says MI has had no impact, which is silly this far in. He says MI and Chris did not talk much, which fits the profile I established yesterday with Han. And he says MI was going after low hanging Nana lynch.
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I was mildly concerned about current power levels but now we have a doublevoter doctor who can make someone unlynchable?

So yeah yesterday when I said we should gun for vanillas "unless something obvious comes up" this was basically an example of what I had in mind

MI I'm sorry that you got smote by leo's awesomely borked role

Like I mean it could be death? but is he really lying about every night RB? that seems so unfair barring scum having some role that is completely escaping me right now
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Yeah, that's why I don't think it can actually be Death. That would be redonkulously unfair.
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Nanahara715 posted...

No joke, I wouldn't be surprised if Chris wrote that KBM post.

On the off off chance that you're town, fuck you. That post took almost three hours of my day!
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just to be clear, scare says his role was every day doublevoter, every night doctor, plus one time day-activated unlynchable? like a ##action during the day?
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Suprak posted his role PM, and that is accurate yes. Well, there's the usual 12 hour buffer on the ##action but yeah
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That is... ludicrous. If you hadn't convinced me with that message from Stan though.
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leo is there anything about your role that indicates you inheriting powers that are limited in use?
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bng_mmmk posted...

leo is there anything about your role that indicates you inheriting powers that are limited in use?

Doesn't say. I imagine it would work like standard universal back up roles though, inherit anything left unused. It would be sweet if I got infinite vig shots tho
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VengefulKaelee posted...

That is... ludicrous. If you hadn't convinced me with that message from Stan though.

I mean...I have a lot of scum blood on my hands at this point, too
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well shit this is pretty enlightening, but in a good way. time to do a reread of MI I guess.
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In retrospect MI ending with his vote on town every day should have been a pretty big tip off

The hilarious and yet soon to be deeply tragic part is that MI is going to start calling me scum for this role, like he did at the start of D4, which is also what Shad, Chris and Han have already tried.
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If MI is scum BD that is amazing and I think we'll actually win at that point. Kind of feels like a big if even though it probably doesn't need to be.

Two shots from Nana/KBM/VI/Red.

Like I feel as though there's no world in which Leo isn't Town here, which is both nuts and awesome at the same time.
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bng_mmmk posted...

If MI is scum BD that is amazing and I think we'll actually win at that point. Kind of feels like a big if even though it probably doesn't need to be.

Two shots from Nana/KBM/VI/Red.

Like I feel as though there's no world in which Leo isn't Town here, which is both nuts and awesome at the same time.

There is no way leo isnt town because han was legitimately griping about his role existing yet he couldn't hold it in.

Literally the worst I've ever seen Han play tbh. Didn't even try yesterday.

Scare thinks the last scum is KBM because her mega-wall ** points are all saying good things about MI and bad things about Death. And her less than enthusiastic reaction to today's role shenanigans.
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Biggest red flag hanging over MI right now is honestly when he tried to take nanas faulty logic with leo and run with it yesterday.

That said, if MI is scum I'm going to be annoyed, though a little less than I was with han simply because I'm pretty sure I said early in day 2 that the kills said we should r1 MI.

You'll have to forgive me for not seeing how this implicates MI right away, I was pretty tired after compiling those posts; you can't expect me to muster all the energy for new information. Scare's role seems brokenly powerful in a way that I would absolutely expect scum to have a roleblocker. Nana is still the scummiest person in the room, though.

For the record if MI is scum that convo is probably town points towards Nana because it felt like a desperation attempt to set up town lynches in that case.

It's a hell of a lot of town protection/power in general

BP, BG, Doctor....and bus driver?
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And backup.

I don't know how you count this role for balancing, it kind of fluked out
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The backup part alone feels strong. The rest of it id proving to be massive lols.

Vengeful_KBM posted...

You'll have to forgive me for not seeing how this implicates MI right away, I was pretty tired after compiling those posts; you can't expect me to muster all the energy for new information. Scare's role seems brokenly powerful in a way that I would absolutely expect scum to have a roleblocker. Nana is still the scummiest person in the room, though.

That is more or less why MI is likely scum.
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holy shit lol

get outta mah house scrubs

bng_mmmk posted on fucking topic 1 page 1...

scum team:

Chris
Boko
MI
Han
Shad

you're welcome

Vote: Chris

so fucking pro. get on my level lmao

was starting to do an iso of MI and saw this, topic 1 post 8

if MI flips scum here I will be literally insufferable FYI
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Puns too strong pls nerf
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bng_mmmk posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Actually that may make MI town too since puns was the other person to comment on my obvious joke. I can imagine very uptight MI being like "Chris that isn't a good idea!" as town reflexively.

This...actually makes sense kinda. But if there is anything MI fails at as scum it's feigning excitement, to the point that I don't even care saying it's what I'm currently testing by voting him. He'll show his hand either way through activity and enthusiasm.

man this post. from page 3

Chris made a post about lynching Red and I same time posted with MI calling out chris for it. Difference was I voted and MI just kinda glanced at it.

I kinda evolved out of the whole day 1 page 1 thing over the years but maybe I should get back in the habit of trusting it. Also worth nothing Shad attacked me for my eventual pursuit of MI over this disappearing act he pulled.
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*worth noting
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also Nana here going after jeff while pointing at me for what boiled down to...creating content on topic 1 page 3

Nanahara715 posted...

Jeff Zero posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Jeff Zero posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

Jeff Zero posted...

My plan is to ask questions only when I feel confident in doing so. This is, after all, my first game. The ex gave me ideas, though, and I feel like I'm slightly better than your run-of-the-mill newb at sussing out scum as a result.

If you're town I hope you'll err on the side of being overly active. If you're scum, I mean do what you want but I'd be less disappointed if you did end up being inactive!

Duly noted, thanks. I'll prioritize your disappointment.

Since I am one of two key words in mafia btw, let me help this: inactivity sucks, if I think you are being cautious for the wrong reasons I'll stab you in the heart and throw you in a river.

Haha, nah, no worries. I suppose that's another thing the ex told me: inactivity is damning.

Even is self professedly aware that inactivity could be perceived as scummy.

Scum: Jeff, Puns

Vote: Jeff

FFS Puns initiated this convo chain and didn't do anything with it.

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alright gotta sleep there's no point in being awake until 3 when we've got 48 hours to figure stuff out
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oof, not very good with picking my votes I see
glad that Han was lynched

obviously they lynched Jeff before me or MI because they still want to seed paranoia about us (or MI is scum and he cant get rid of too much townpower)

Death is also probably Town. I'm a little wary, and plan to grill him a bit tomorrow. For example - Stan pointed out that Death unvoted without any hesitation when he claimed cop. Death being a thief should make him more hostile towards other full scanner claims. However, this would mean that scum has no roleblocker, as they haven't roleblocked me or any one else all game. Scum would seem quite weak then, especially if MI is Town.

there's been plenty of games with two fulltime scanners in it
besides if I didnt unvote right away, scum might have thought 'maybe death is a scanner?'

they thought I was power anyway though
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Leo3L posted...

Scare has joined the party.

He was a double voter, a doctor, and once per game could make someone unlynchable.

N1 he saved Red because he thought the cop would die from role abilities and he did not think Chris was Town.

So. Even more power than we initially thought. I think this means MI almost has to be scum now. My mason board is more active than the game topic itself, trying to figure out if it's MI or Death who's lying. We're leaning MI.

Interesting
why didnt he try to use unlynchable though?
didnt he think his days were numbered after his second vote was revealed?
and why did he vote the way he did on day1?
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You getting roleblocked from the start still makes no goddamn sense btw.
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red13n posted...

You getting roleblocked from the start still makes no goddamn sense btw.

Only thing I can think of is Chris had a power tell
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You having fear of me to come test me today is cute leo but come on.

Even setting aside literally every other power in the game, a confirming town doctor with another ability and a confirming town backup? I have way to much respect for suprak to believe it.

So are you out of recruits or just lying about his power?
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If you guys are that concerned I actually have a confirming question with Scare


What was your role in Samuel L Jackson Mafia, and what did you tell me in PM after you were lynched? >_>

<_<
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My Immortal posted...

You having fear of me to come test me today is cute leo but come on.

Even setting aside literally every other power in the game, a confirming town doctor with another ability and a confirming town backup? I have way to much respect for suprak to believe it.

So are you out of recruits or just lying about his power?

Not sure Leo is confirmed town.

Personally, I think the game setup makes the most sense if Leo is some sort of Indy - Comedy option is that he was a Mason Recruiting Underdog Backup - who lucked into rolling BP and saw his easiest path to victory as survivor in a world where scum can't shoot him would be to go hard town and get scum lynched.
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honestly from now on we could just give questions only we can answer in advance and then have Leo give the answers once he recruits us
if the game lasts long enough that is

still, wasnt Leo a major force behind the Han lynch?
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Even if he's really talking to Scare, there's no way he's telling us the truth about Scare's role. It just doesn't make sense that that would coexist with Leo alone, let alone all of town's other power. They would be totally borked together.

And I don't really buy Leo as scum. Yeah, I lept on him yesterday when he knew who was roleblocked before Death and I were confirmed but I can see his POV of assuming it as town and enough people have confirmed his ability. I had also thought last night how Damphair kind of fits as his role since he drowns people & brings them back to life as his priests, but scum wouldn't be able to recruit as many people as he has -- plus why would all these people be confirming him if they can't really see his role PM? AND if he gets me lynched my flip would eff him, so it would be a dumb play. He's town.

It's Nana/KBM with an outside chance of it being red instead of one of them.
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Nanahara715 posted...

My Immortal posted...

You having fear of me to come test me today is cute leo but come on.

Even setting aside literally every other power in the game, a confirming town doctor with another ability and a confirming town backup? I have way to much respect for suprak to believe it.

So are you out of recruits or just lying about his power?

Not sure Leo is confirmed town.

Personally, I think the game setup makes the most sense if Leo is some sort of Indy - Comedy option is that he was a Mason Recruiting Underdog Backup - who lucked into rolling BP and saw his easiest path to victory as survivor in a world where scum can't shoot him would be to go hard town and get scum lynched.

The only way he's some kind of indy is if he changes the alignment of everyone he recruits so that they want to help him. And I can't see Suprak using an alignment changing role
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I forget did Stan get any scans off night1?
and does Leo now also have a doublevote?
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