Current Events > This Woman said she was BULLIED at STARBUCKS for wearing a TRUMP SHIRT!!

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The Joker was spot on about liberals

See, their morals, their code... it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be.
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Asherlee10 posted...

Mitsukiba posted...

Sexual Harassment is huge issue, if I'm wearing a skin tight dress and take offense to being cat-called. I'm virtually no different from this lady wearing a politically-charged shirt. It is a garment of dress first and foremost. If she has to think more wisely before running risk of a situation like this. I think all women should follow-suit.

Thank you for clearing that up.

As mentioned earlier, my point is about expectation, not justification.

Should someone wearing a politically-charged shirt expect commentary (good and bad) about the shirt? Yeah.
Should someone wearing a skin-tight dress expect commentary (good and bad) about the dress? Yeah.

Does that make any of this "right"? No.

I am also not sure that it is a fair comparison between a politically-charged shirt and a woman wearing a dress.

It's not simply a dress.Especially, if what the lady is wearing is not simply a shirt. None of this is even about being right anymore. I just found your stance on cat-calling a bit hypocritical in light of the situation.
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That is very unprofessional behavior that should not be tolerated by management.
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lol @ Triggered Trumpanzees ITT
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I can't believe people would fire that employee. It's honestly not that big of a deal. Just tell them don't do it again and if they do then fire them.
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I don't understand why some of you are equating this to sexual assault. There is a pretty big difference between writing "build the wall" on a cup and raping someone. It's like making fun of someone wearing the jersey of your rival team. Now had he wrote something like "Trump Slut" or something distasteful and actually offensive id understand the outrage. I'm a cowboys fan. This is on the same level as someone writing "Zeke sucks" on my cup.

Asherlee10 posted...

Mitsukiba posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Mitsukiba posted...

Sexual Harassment is huge issue, if I'm wearing a skin tight dress and take offense to being cat-called. I'm virtually no different from this lady wearing a politically-charged shirt. It is a garment of dress first and foremost. If she has to think more wisely before running risk of a situation like this. I think all women should follow-suit.

Thank you for clearing that up.

As mentioned earlier, my point is about expectation, not justification.

Should someone wearing a politically-charged shirt expect commentary (good and bad) about the shirt? Yeah.
Should someone wearing a skin-tight dress expect commentary (good and bad) about the dress? Yeah.

Does that make any of this "right"? No.

I am also not sure that it is a fair comparison between a politically-charged shirt and a woman wearing a dress.

It's not simply a dress.Especially, if what the lady is wearing is not simply a shirt. None of this is even about being right anymore. I just found your stance on cat-calling a bit hypocritical in light of the situation.

Not sure I follow. I mentioned that it is also a skin-tight dress and the wear should probably expect commentary, both good and bad. I am by no means justifying the barista's actions or someone cat-calling another person. This is about expectation.

I do agree with your stance though.
Edit: Well, actually after re-reading. It seems I've misunderstood you. I'm sorry.
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Kayla is an idiot
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Asherlee10 posted...

thanosibe posted...

I get why you are using that term. My thoughts were it really shouldn't be. As one cannot assume things about someone because they are a Trump supporter. Which this employee obviously did assume something about this women, with what she put on her cup. That's what I am dismayed about. That this is the climate of our country.

I don't agree. I think that her shirt is politically-charged because of the political climate at this very moment. No one needs to assume anything about the wearer of the shirt. The commentary is on the shirt itself.

Fair enough. Not everyone is going to agree on everything. :thumb:

cjsdowg posted...

thanosibe posted...

m not saying that the gal or the employee were justified in their actions. Both shouldn't have reacted the way they did. People need to learn when to just STFU. On both sides. Which I posted earlier. This shirt was not worth what happened here. And if a similar situation arouse about an Obama shirt I would say the same thing.

Sorry I think I wasn't clear. I am saying it happen with Obama people wouldn't be complaining. You think if someone wrote HOPE on a cup it would get press?

Oh yeah. I'll agree I don't know why that particular phrase upset her since it was a mantra of Trump in his campaigning. Writing HOPE for someone wearing an Obama shirt, I would see as a compliment if I were the wearer. Now if the employee had wrote "racist" or "Trumpanzee" or something, I could see her getting upset. As I don't personally believe that every single person that voted for Trump is a bad person. At least until they show me they are.
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Well, she is a piece of shit for supporting Trump, but that was unprofessional.
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Caution999 posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

mrduckbear posted...

She said "i don't know what politics has to do with getting a cup of coffee. I just walked out because everyone was staring. I just found it really sad that i can't wear a t-shirt with our president without being made fun of"

Maybe she shouldn't wear politically-oriented shirts if she doesn't want commentary. Especially given our current climate of politics right now.

It's a free country.

If I said to you "maybe you shouldn't wear that top if you don't want to be raped" how would you feel?

one's a crime and a violent violation of the other person, and the other is just a person making a comment because of something you're expressing because of what you wore (No different than commenting on any other clothing you might have worn), you troglodyte

holy shit. I know there's some dumb ass people around here but this was a stupid analogy by all accounts

don't make fun of me for wearing my stupid shirt, what if I raped you for wearing yours???
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Man, politics has really crept into everything in the last decade. Plus news stations will cover all sorts of stupid shit to get content. That being said, she should have responded by going into the restroom, crapping on the floor, then telling the barista the restroom needed cleaning and to go earn her paycheck.
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I'm sorry, but the shirt IS politically charged.

Name me ONE presidential candidate before cheeto that actually tweeted nazi symbols, re-tweeted tweets from hate groups, coined his very own new racial slur for people he doesn't like ("bad hombres", which manages to associate illegal status to spanish speakers and spanish speakers only) and who tried to ban an entire religion.
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To me, this sounds like something a Trump supporter would do. What a crybaby.

Really? His whole administration stands against letting people like me wear what I want. Welcome to our world hun.
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refmon posted...

The Joker was spot on about liberals

See, their morals, their code... it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be.

Wasn't he proved wrong in that same movie? Don't you think there might be something wrong with taking life lessons from a psychopath?
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Read the first page. You do realize you can vote for someone and not be 100% for every single thing they stand for right? Maybe she doesn't like the whole wall idea. Sure there were supporters using that at rallies but who's to say she was one of them? I thought liberals hated stereotyping and were all about individuality yet apparently that only applies to the small group of things they like.

And even if she was, just write the fucking name on the cup and go about your day.
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WaterLink posted...

Read the first page. You do realize you can vote for someone and not be 100% for every single thing they stand for right? Maybe she doesn't like the whole wall idea. Sure there were supporters using that at rallies but who's to say she was one of them? I thought liberals hated stereotyping and were all about individuality yet apparently that only applies to the small group of things they like.

And even if she was, just write the fucking name on the cup and go about your day.

And I thought Republicans hated people being Politically Correct,yet apparently that only applies to the small group of things they hate.
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cjsdowg posted...

And I thought Republicans hated people being Politically Correct,yet apparently that only applies to the small group of things they hate.

I agree. Partisan politics sucks and only serves to divide the country which I'm sure the elite that run the country love, which is why it'll never change.

But in this case it is a person doing a job in customer service insulting a customer who was just minding her business and it's not really defensible
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This is very stupid.
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I don't give two fucks that it was political.

Bottom line is that it was unprofessional and not in the spirit of Starbucks' mission statement or culture. I'm glad she provided the feedback. I would have too, offended or not.

Failure of a barista.
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One snarky comment does not constitute bullying. Some people just have a victim complex it seems.

knutjob posted...

One snarky comment does not constitute bullying. Some people just have a victim complex it seems.

Bullying is definitely a stretch here I agree. Still not acceptable behavior to insult a customer because of a shirt she was wearing. The customer orders a coffee, just do your job and make the damn coffee without writing a petty comment on it.
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Conflict posted...

It wasn't even insulting though. All she did was write a slogan that Trump himself said.

WaterLink posted...

You do realize you can vote for someone and not be 100% for every single thing they stand for right? Maybe she doesn't like the whole wall idea. Sure there were supporters using that at rallies but who's to say she was one of them?

And regardless it isn't the barista's place to bring politics into making a damn coffee unsolicited. And before anyone says it, wearing a shirt doesn't warrant it.
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WaterLink posted...

Conflict posted...

It wasn't even insulting though. All she did was write a slogan that Trump himself said.

WaterLink posted...

You do realize you can vote for someone and not be 100% for every single thing they stand for right? Maybe she doesn't like the whole wall idea. Sure there were supporters using that at rallies but who's to say she was one of them?

And regardless it isn't the barista's place to bring politics into making a damn coffee unsolicited. And before anyone says it, wearing a shirt doesn't warrant it.

> "before anybody says it"
> there have been around 40 posts about it

poor trolling
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WaterLink posted...

Conflict posted...

It wasn't even insulting though. All she did was write a slogan that Trump himself said.

WaterLink posted...

You do realize you can vote for someone and not be 100% for every single thing they stand for right? Maybe she doesn't like the whole wall idea. Sure there were supporters using that at rallies but who's to say she was one of them?

And regardless it isn't the barista's place to bring politics into making a damn coffee unsolicited. And before anyone says it, wearing a shirt doesn't warrant it.

It isn't the barista's place, but fuck Trump supporters. They deserve every shred of hate they get for the hateful rhetoric they espouse and support
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EnragedSlith posted...

They deserve every shred of hate they get for the hateful rhetoric they espouse and support

> criticises Trump supporters for spreading hate
> supports spreading hate
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

How does that constitute harassment? Seems like she's blowing stuff out of proportion.

She was choking back tears until some handsome fellow came over to console her, bitched out the barista, and the entire coffee shop erupted into applause.
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...

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screen name: jonny nutcase
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lol
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WaterLink posted...

EnragedSlith posted...

They deserve every shred of hate they get for the hateful rhetoric they espouse and support

> criticises Trump supporters for spreading hate
> supports spreading hate

Politics came up because my wife and I were watching All the President's Men last night, and she was telling me about people being vile and attacking Barron on his, I think she said Twitter account, because of who his father is. Sometimes people are just utter shit and it doesn't matter what party they are a member of. They are, from the inside out, terrible and nasty people.
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This topic has 187 posts, has any of them addressed how that slogan is supposed to be offensive to a Trump supporter yet?
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Asherlee10 posted...

3rd_Best_Master posted...

This topic has 187 posts, has any of them addressed how that slogan is supposed to be offensive to a Trump supporter yet?

Yes

Which?
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Yea isn't "Build the Wall" their own chant and what trump supporters want. You're flaunting being a Trump Supporter but that made you embarrassed? If I wore a Bernie shirt and they put one of his talking points or "Feel the Bern" on my cup I don't think I'd be upset, even if they did it sarcastically. "Build the Wall" is literally something trump supporters openly chant and believe.

thanosibe posted...

Politics came up because my wife and I were watching All the President's Men last night, and she was telling me about people being vile and attacking Barron on his, I think she said Twitter account, because of who his father is. Sometimes people are just utter shit and it doesn't matter what party they are a member of. They are, from the inside out, terrible and nasty people.

It's bipartisan politics. Creates an "us against them" mentality on both sides. Both sides basically use the same tactics to attack the other while simultaneously criticizing the other side for the way they act. Doesn't help that news outlets have different biases towards one side or the other so people from one side typically get their confirmation from news sources that are biased to their side, further perpetuating the divide.

It's why I vote 3rd party more often than not, unless there's a candidate from one of the major parties that I just really feel strongly about, which isn't very often. Anything to get another party some momentum into being somewhat of a contender so we can have a grey area in the landscape of black and white politics.
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...

MaverickXeo posted...

TheBiggerWiggle posted...

"I should be able to express my opinion and receive no backlash for it."

- typical Trump supporter

You should be able to express yourself without backlash. If she supported Trump; good for her. People may not like it, but there is no reason to make a complete fool of yourself and get fired/reprimanded over it.

EDIT: What happens if she had a gay rights shirt on and her cup had some slur written on it? Is that okay?

Hopefully you can see the difference between supporting gay rights and supporting a man who indulges in racism and xenophobia.

So one is fine and one is not because of who it is?

Also, what has Trump done that has explicitly been racism or xenophobia? Whenever I ask this question, I get statements that are not backed by actual facts; but instead based on 'interpretations.' I want concrete support for this claim; something that would hold up in a court system, for example.
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MaverickXeo posted...

TheBiggerWiggle posted...

MaverickXeo posted...

TheBiggerWiggle posted...

"I should be able to express my opinion and receive no backlash for it."

- typical Trump supporter

You should be able to express yourself without backlash. If she supported Trump; good for her. People may not like it, but there is no reason to make a complete fool of yourself and get fired/reprimanded over it.

EDIT: What happens if she had a gay rights shirt on and her cup had some slur written on it? Is that okay?

Hopefully you can see the difference between supporting gay rights and supporting a man who indulges in racism and xenophobia.

So one is fine and one is not because of who it is?

Also, what has Trump done that has explicitly been racism or xenophobia? Whenever I ask this question, I get statements that are not backed by actual facts; but instead based on 'interpretations.' I want concrete support for this claim; something that would hold up in a court system, for example.

??

just being racist isnt a crime
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marc55 posted...

MaverickXeo posted...

TheBiggerWiggle posted...

MaverickXeo posted...

TheBiggerWiggle posted...

"I should be able to express my opinion and receive no backlash for it."

- typical Trump supporter

You should be able to express yourself without backlash. If she supported Trump; good for her. People may not like it, but there is no reason to make a complete fool of yourself and get fired/reprimanded over it.

EDIT: What happens if she had a gay rights shirt on and her cup had some slur written on it? Is that okay?

Hopefully you can see the difference between supporting gay rights and supporting a man who indulges in racism and xenophobia.

So one is fine and one is not because of who it is?

Also, what has Trump done that has explicitly been racism or xenophobia? Whenever I ask this question, I get statements that are not backed by actual facts; but instead based on 'interpretations.' I want concrete support for this claim; something that would hold up in a court system, for example.

??

just being racist isnt a crime

I am aware. I want proof of his 'racist' actions though. Everything that has been told to me has been an interpretation, false, or just very vague. I want concrete proof.
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MaverickXeo posted...

MutantJohn posted...

Honestly, just serve the damn coffee.

Yeah. Whoever did that should be fired simply because you do not bring politics into your job (especially when you deal in service). Putting anything other than the name on the cup is unprofessional.

This.

Surprised to see people on CE take this route. I could give a shit about your politician preference, just do the job your being paid to do and show some common curtesy.

No one supporting this can pretend they're anything but immature.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

Yea isn't "Build the Wall" their own chant and what trump supporters want. You're flaunting being a Trump Supporter but that made you embarrassed? If I wore a Bernie shirt and they put one of his talking points or "Feel the Bern" on my cup I don't think I'd be upset, even if they did it sarcastically. "Build the Wall" is literally something trump supporters openly chant and believe.

For reals. Which is why its so weird to see all these posts agreeing that the slogan was definitely offensive but they're all lacking in specifics. None are addressing how that slogan is supposed to be offensive to her or what the issue is in repeating it to a person who supports the man.
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

Yea isn't "Build the Wall" their own chant and what trump supporters want. You're flaunting being a Trump Supporter but that made you embarrassed? If I wore a Bernie shirt and they put one of his talking points or "Feel the Bern" on my cup I don't think I'd be upset, even if they did it sarcastically. "Build the Wall" is literally something trump supporters openly chant and believe.

For reals. Which is why its so weird to see all these posts agreeing that the slogan was definitely offensive but they're all lacking in specifics. None are addressing how that slogan is supposed to be offensive to her or what the issue is in repeating it to a person who supports the man.

Trump supporter hypocrisy at its best. Sometimes I wonder what they're even supporting the president for anymore with how much he goes back on his words.

3rd_Best_Master posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

Yea isn't "Build the Wall" their own chant and what trump supporters want. You're flaunting being a Trump Supporter but that made you embarrassed? If I wore a Bernie shirt and they put one of his talking points or "Feel the Bern" on my cup I don't think I'd be upset, even if they did it sarcastically. "Build the Wall" is literally something trump supporters openly chant and believe.

For reals. Which is why its so weird to see all these posts agreeing that the slogan was definitely offensive but they're all lacking in specifics. None are addressing how that slogan is supposed to be offensive to her or what the issue is in repeating it to a person who supports the man.

Its not so much 'offensive' as it is unprofessional. Write the person's name on the cup; and be done with it.
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MaverickXeo posted...

3rd_Best_Master posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

Yea isn't "Build the Wall" their own chant and what trump supporters want. You're flaunting being a Trump Supporter but that made you embarrassed? If I wore a Bernie shirt and they put one of his talking points or "Feel the Bern" on my cup I don't think I'd be upset, even if they did it sarcastically. "Build the Wall" is literally something trump supporters openly chant and believe.

For reals. Which is why its so weird to see all these posts agreeing that the slogan was definitely offensive but they're all lacking in specifics. None are addressing how that slogan is supposed to be offensive to her or what the issue is in repeating it to a person who supports the man.

Its not so much 'offensive' as it is unprofessional. Write the person's name on the cup; and be done with it.

This. It's the principal.

I don't care if I agree with you, I don't go to retail stores/chains to hear your opinion on politics/religion/current events.
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Trump supporters chanting ''BUILD THE WALL!''

Woman gets BUILD THE WALL written to her. Gets offended.

she's literally admitting at her own embarrassment and denial for something she's supposed to be supporting