Current Events > College student freed from North Korea has severe brain damage

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iPhone_7 posted...

Americans shouldn't go to a place infamous for taking hostages and then expect the U.S. government to bend over backwards and give in to demands by a totalitarian state. How many more times does this have to happen

americans dont learn.

guns
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27_Sandman_40 posted...

If someone can provide a legitimate solution where North Koreans don't have to suffer anymore and no one innocent has to die, I'm all ears.

Sunshine Policy

A belief fostered by former President Kim Dae Jung in which both Koreas engage in talks of peaceful reconciliation and open trade talks/reuniting of families.

Was on its way to doing at least something until his death and the emergence of a more conservative regime in Korea.

It's unique thinking is that foreign countries should stay the fuck out of their relationship/attempts at reconciliation because it was foreign influences (China and America) that caused this whole mess in the first place.
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Okay fucking seriously why do people want to play with fire and visit NK and do anything other than kiss their ass? What is the appeal of it?
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same can be asked of people who visit america.
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27_Sandman_40 posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

27_Sandman_40 posted...

Newsflash: Not a single North Korean has a future.

you're right man...NO ONE from NK has ever escaped and went on to live perfectly good lives..NO ONE....FUCK THEM ALL, right?

Continuing to make due on your inability to read gimmick, I see.

And even if a normal average North Korean escaped, it happens so few and the "wokeness" happens to so little of a percentage of its population, again, the HUMANE thing to do would be to put them all out of their misery. The chances of successfully escaping that hellhole is literally almost nil, and the consequences of attempting to do so is extremely torturous and inhumane. You're risking generations upon generations of more torture upon its citizens, AND the possible further loss of life from neighboring countries and the far from minute chance of nuclear fallout plaguing the environment....for the possibility 3 or 4 people will escape per year? Are you fucking insane?

When you grow up and learn to see the reality of things, you'll realize the world sucks and there isn't always dandelions and roses on the other side.

Get a load of this jack hole
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"Killing people is bad!"

27_Sandman_40
"How about you actually attack my points."
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known2FAIL posted...

"Killing people is bad!"

27_Sandman_40
"How about you actually attack my points."

"What you are describing is genocide."

27_Sandman_40
"It's not genocide because it's humane!"
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known2FAIL posted...

An American college student who emerged from prison in North Korea in a coma has severe brain damage, but doctors don't know what caused it,

i think we can safely make an assumption here...
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27_Sandman_40 posted...

known2FAIL posted...

"Killing people is bad!"

27_Sandman_40
"How about you actually attack my points."

A person is trapped under an immobile vehicle, limbs broken and the vehicle is seconds away from catching fire. You're in the middle of the desert, there's no reception, and you have no way of freeing him. You have a gun.

Do you watch your friend burn to death or do you put a bullet in his brain?

Why do I care if a strawman burns up?
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How the fuck did he manage to even get in North Korea?
Or have they opened up their borders?
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Turbam posted...

How the fuck did he manage to even get in North Korea?
Or have they opened up their borders?

You can fly in from China. If you go, there is a tour guide and you have to stay with him at all times and do everything he says. You're only allowed to take pictures he authorizes you to take as well.
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27_Sandman_40 posted...

It's not a strawman. You made the direct assertion that all killing is bad. I brought up two examples where it's not.

I didn't make any assertion about killing anyone or anything.

27_Sandman_40 posted...

Killing people to end their indefinite and guaranteed torture isn't wrong, in my opinion.

Can you prove their torture is indefinite and guaranteed?

27_Sandman_40 posted...

It's all suffering

Are you saying if you can't be happy you should just die?
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Oh, this topic is fucking great. Between the people trying to defend going to North Korea(Don't fucking go to North Korea. How could anyone not understand this?), fucking Sandman advocating genocide(and then trying to use the fact that he's a Jew to hide from the fact that he's a fucking monster), and you god damn people still, after all these years, actually responding to that fucking shitposter, this is absolutely amazing.

It's like everyone woke up this morning and decided to reenact what a brain goes through mid-stroke. Bravo.
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What was the point in bringing up a stroke? I agree with you but it doesn't illustrate your point well like many other things would.
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Why do I get the feeling the media's lying about the victim's age in order to sensationalize all this.




Doesn't look at all 22, but rather 10-15 years older.
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AzurexNightmare posted...

What was the point in bringing up a stroke? I agree with you but it doesn't illustrate your point well like many other things would.

During a stroke, your brain metaphorically shits it's pants. This topic is a nice reenactment of everyone's brains shitting their pants.

I could have conveyed it clearer, but it would be moddable. And considering I pretty much said 90% of the posters in this topic are acting like they just finished eating lead paint, one of these salty fucks is going to mark me because they don't like that I'm right.
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Itachi157 posted...

Let this be a lesson to anyone thinking it'd be cool to do one of those tours there (especially if you're a US citizen). There's no stopping NK from doing this to you if they want. He allegedly stole something but I don't take NK at their word.

Indeed, don't ever visit a country where those in charge can do this to you without consequence. Places like North Korea and the US are terrifying

26_Sandman_39 posted...

I directly countered your "all killing is bad" principal, word for fucking word.

I never made that argument. Quote where I did if you think I did.
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27_Sandman_40 posted...

Killing people to end their indefinite and guaranteed torture isn't wrong, in my opinion. There is literally no difference between the car, cancer, or a Korean concentration camp. It's all suffering, and all three have a guaranteed end of death and no chance to live happily. If you can't see this, or at the very least try to attack this principal, then stop now because you're not going to convince me of anything.

who gave you authority to decide for others how to perceive their life?

im a billionare, i think a peasant like you is living a sad life. so i can decide to end it?

literally your stupid ass argument
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pretty horrible stuff..... buuuutttt maaaaaaaaybeeeee if you go to NK of all places, as an American and steal shit out of hotels, you should be aware that they might turn you into a vegetable for the rest of your life.
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Kanjo criticizes people for not giving different solutions to North Korea.

I do.

Kanjo ignores it. Instead he argues semantics with others about what a strawman is and some car analogy. >_>
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26_Sandman_39 posted...

No I saw it. I wish it was able to start back up, but I doubt the state of US and China affairs is going to have an effect on whether or not North Korea sits down and has a talk with South Korea, who they believe is really part of NK (in their world, "Korea"). Especially China, who NK is financially dependent on.

It got far with Kim Jong Il. And Kim Jong Un's government sent their condolences to South Korea after a national tragedy (Sewol) a few years ago. And they have said pretty positive things about Moon Jae In (South Korea's new president).

As for China, those two haven't had the best of relations. China, Russia, and North Korea were the communist triumvirate in Asia. But China and Russia always had that rivalry that N. Korea played off of for decades. "Oh well Russia gave us this, what are YOU going to give us?" was North Korea's economic policy for years.

But now? North Korea is like China's little brother that it is constantly having to deal with. I'm sure China would LOVE a peaceful resolution to the Korean problem. They have become a massive economic power and if North Korea could be opened to the rest of the world, I'm sure China would reap even more benefits.

America on the other hand would be the big hurdle.
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Kastrada posted...

and if North Korea could be opened to the rest of the world, I'm sure China would reap even more benefits.

don't they have trillions in minerals?
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foreveraIone posted...

Kastrada posted...

and if North Korea could be opened to the rest of the world, I'm sure China would reap even more benefits.

don't they have trillions in minerals?

I'm not entirely sure? But then again I am far from an expert on North Korea. Everything I have read about North Korea's geography is that they kinda got the short end of the stick. One of the biggest benefits the South got was how much better the geography is with climate, farming, location, etc etc... Plus North Korea has kinda fucked up their land already.
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Fucking disgusting. Jesus Christ.
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Kastrada posted...

One of the biggest benefits the South got was how much better the geography is with climate, farming, location, etc etc... Plus North Korea has kinda fucked up their land already.

The real advantage is that South Korea is a capitalist nation. They're more interested in making money than trying to extort or guilt trip other countries into giving them handouts, plus they'd rather educate their citizens instead of keeping them ignorant about modern technology and everything else the rest of the world has to offer. Singapore and Japan are similar (edit: compared to North Korea) in lacking lots of resources, yet still being role model nations.
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Kastrada posted...

One of the biggest benefits the South got was how much better the geography is with climate, farming, location, etc etc... Plus North Korea has kinda fucked up their land already.

The real advantage is that South Korea is a capitalist nation. They're more interested in making money than trying to extort or guilt trip other countries into giving them handouts, plus they'd rather educate their citizens instead of keeping them ignorant about modern technology and everything else the rest of the world has to offer. Singapore and Japan are similar (edit: compared to North Korea) in lacking lots of resources, yet still being role model nations.

I'm just talking abouy history. North Korea had the immediate disadvantage because their land wasn't as conducive and fertile.

And the comparison to Japan and Singapore is those nations weren't cut in half. It's more similar to the American Cival War. The North was far better prepared to keep continuing as a country. The South wasn't going to last without the North.

Don't get me wrong, what you said is absolutely correct. But South Korea was playing with a stacked deck. Better natural resources and the backing of America. Chung Hee's wheelings and dealing with non-American countries (notably France and Germany) paid dividends.

I wouldn't give total credit to the Western Capitalism idea. I mean it gave rise to military dictatorships (at least three) and there was the IMF issue of the late 90's.

Edit: No not total credit. I mispoke. More like the western influence did lead the country to some terrible times. Not saying you said this at all but I dislike when people say the western influence was the best thing to happen to Korea. Reeks of colonialism. >_>
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Kastrada posted...

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Kastrada posted...

One of the biggest benefits the South got was how much better the geography is with climate, farming, location, etc etc... Plus North Korea has kinda fucked up their land already.

The real advantage is that South Korea is a capitalist nation. They're more interested in making money than trying to extort or guilt trip other countries into giving them handouts, plus they'd rather educate their citizens instead of keeping them ignorant about modern technology and everything else the rest of the world has to offer. Singapore and Japan are similar (edit: compared to North Korea) in lacking lots of resources, yet still being role model nations.

I'm just talking abouy history. North Korea had the immediate disadvantage because their land wasn't as conducive and fertile.

And the comparison to Japan and Singapore is those nations weren't cut in half. It's more similar to the American Cival War. The North was far better prepared to keep continuing as a country. The South wasn't going to last without the North.

Don't get me wrong, what you said is absolutely correct. But South Korea was playing with a stacked deck. Better natural resources and the backing of America. Chung Hee's wheelings and dealing with non-American countries (notably France and Germany) paid dividends.

I wouldn't give total credit to the Western Capitalism idea. I mean it gave rise to military dictatorships (at least three) and there was the IMF issue of the late 90's.

Edit: No not total credit. I mispoke. More like the western influence did lead the country to some terrible times. Not saying you said this at all but I dislike when people say the western influence was the best thing to happen to Korea. Reeks of colonialism. >_>

You make fair points. I will add though that I don't think of North Korea's lack of success as a competion with South Korea. North Korea might not ever surpass the South, but they could be so much more if it wasn't ruled by a tyrannical regime. Everytime I watch a documentary on the matter, I shake my head at how little they care about pursuing a peaceful, rational direction for their nation's betterment. I do not blame the common folk for their sad predicament.
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26_Sandman_39 posted...

My apologies, this guy made that argument. It's even worse now because you were the one to deem it a strawman when you literally weren't even part of the argument.

I deemed it a strawman because it is a strawman. You are equating assisted suicide with murder of an entire country just because they are led by a despot.
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Delirious_Beard posted...

literal brainwashing

Well played.
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He passed away today >_>
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MetalGearSquid posted...

He passed away today >_>

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75479791
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Monkhood posted...

MetalGearSquid posted...

He passed away today >_>

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75479791

This topic has a bigger post dick, so i went here instead
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Um... okay.
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it is highly likely he was a guinea pig for brainwashing techniques to see if it worked on westerners


looks like it didn't work and just causes brain damage
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