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DoomtheGrav
06/15/17 6:29:55 AM
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I'm having a great time

No spoilers plx
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CrimsonAngeI
06/15/17 6:31:35 AM
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Are you saying CE likes to exaggerate things?
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ThePredominate
06/15/17 6:33:11 AM
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It'll leave a bad aftertaste. We all liked it at first.
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single_player
06/15/17 6:35:03 AM
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I too felt that. In the first few hours it felt like the best game ever but it slowly went downhill.
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UnholyMudcrab
06/15/17 6:35:45 AM
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It's not a particularly good Fallout game, but it's good enough in other respects that I can deal with that.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
06/15/17 7:48:42 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
It's not a particularly good Fallout game, but it's good enough in other respects that I can deal with that.


This

It's an awful Fallout game. But it's not like it isn't fun.

Kind of like MGS V. It's a trash MGS game, but it still is fun.
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NeuralLaxative
06/15/17 7:53:33 AM
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I enjoyed fallout all the through and then again once mods were added. People's expectations were too damn high and ruined the game for themselves

Expectors gonna expect
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Delirious_Beard
06/15/17 7:54:29 AM
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it's great if you don't like fallout games
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MonkeyBones23
06/15/17 7:56:03 AM
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I really didn't like the dialogue system or the settlement building (which I really hated).
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Twinmold
06/15/17 8:39:23 AM
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Imagine take this board's opinion on anything seriously. Seriously, anything.
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Caution999
06/15/17 9:04:51 AM
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It's a great game.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
06/15/17 9:05:29 AM
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Twinmold posted...
Imagine take this board's opinion on anything seriously. Seriously, anything.


This is a good point. This is the board that acts like niche weaboo games are great exclusives after all.
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eston
06/15/17 9:06:20 AM
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I loved it while also recognizing that it has many shortcomings

I highly recommend the DLC
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bretonftw
06/15/17 9:06:34 AM
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It's just popular online to prefer NV despite it having less deep factions, being faaaar shorter and having about three dungeons in Vanilla.
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green butter
06/15/17 9:06:34 AM
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like 3/4ths of the way through the game theres a twist and the narrative basically completely changes. it's jarring and very poorly implemented into the game imo
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KillerSlaw
06/15/17 9:21:44 AM
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The story wasn't written very well and the map was kind of small, I thought.

It played....alright. Better than Fallout 3 but at the same time I just wish they'd decide if they want to be more of a shooter or an RPG because I feel that, right now, they still don't have the balance right. I didn't try playing with Mouse and Keyboard tho so that could maybe help with the shooter aspect.
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Leanaunfurled
06/15/17 9:22:34 AM
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Should've asked me, I would've told you how great it is. :3
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Paragon21XX
06/15/17 9:36:33 AM
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The gameplay is great, though the narrative totally sucks for a Fallout game. No real decisions except who to align with for the endgame, no karma system, no reputation system. Nothing that makes a Fallout game, well, a Fallout game.
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Shotgunnova
06/15/17 9:42:29 AM
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It's mostly the main plot and dialogue that suck. Exploring, gunplay, building communities, graphics, music, etc. are all good or great.
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salandrews
06/15/17 9:46:41 AM
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Its minecraft with better graphics.
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eston
06/15/17 9:47:21 AM
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UnholyMudcrab
06/15/17 9:49:20 AM
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bretonftw posted...
It's just popular online to prefer NV despite it having less deep factions, being faaaar shorter and having about three dungeons in Vanilla.

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StarReaper13
06/15/17 9:55:52 AM
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I dislike the dialogue, but mods make the game way more bearable.

bretonftw posted...
It's just popular online to prefer NV despite it having less deep factions, being faaaar shorter and having about three dungeons in Vanilla.


NV has better writing, the dialogue says exactly what you'll pick, and half of the time you spend playing 4 are loading screens.
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Alucard188
06/15/17 9:57:47 AM
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It's great to start out with, but loses its luster fairly easily.
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GAMER_X
06/15/17 10:12:18 AM
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Its a cool game on its own merits, and dicking around in the world leveling up and the chance to get some really good loot from enemies is always sweet (even better if you mod the game so every 4 out of 5 enemies spawns as legendary) and building settlements can be fun as well if you're into that kinda thing.

Its obviously not the best fallout game, but fun on its own merits. My biggest gripe with the game is the radiant quest system. My first time with the game, i figured I would be liberating some settlements for preston, then after X settlements the story would move forward and I could still do settlements as well. Well before I knew it 30 hours had gone by lol (it flew by fast what can i say, i had fun building them and the side quests where you go to a secondary location to clear out bandits etc)

Its really lame that you HAVE to go do (location redacted for spoilers) to actually start up the main quest line, and that from there you're actually forced into joining i think almost all the factions to complete the main quest line? Quite possibly one of the most on rails linear quest line in a modern rpg.


But its still a cool game on its own merits, very easily a huge time sink
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Monkhood
06/15/17 10:19:32 AM
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I had fun with it for about 10-12 hours, until realising 90% of the "quests" were just Radiant nonsense.
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salandrews
06/15/17 10:31:40 AM
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The settlement system is straight ass. It holds no real value.

Oh no This settlement is being attacked... So what?

Also the settlement building is pointless. Its a hollow replacement to real towns.

Theres: diamond city, good neighbor, and bunker hill. Think I'm missing one.

NV: good springs, primm, novac, nv and it's surrounding areas, and more.

And the constant drop off legendary weapons make them all lose the feeling of being special.

Which then turns me to the weapon customizing. Its bad. Theres a definite best mod for every weapon. Its not like you can make it your own.

Even still its a fun game. But if I could play NV or 3 over 4 with the 4s engine I would in a heart beat.
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apolloooo
06/15/17 10:32:05 AM
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It is shit.
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bretonftw
06/16/17 9:13:40 AM
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salandrews posted...
The settlement system is straight ass. It holds no real value.

Oh no This settlement is being attacked... So what?

Also the settlement building is pointless. Its a hollow replacement to real towns.

Theres: diamond city, good neighbor, and bunker hill. Think I'm missing one.

NV: good springs, primm, novac, nv and it's surrounding areas, and more.

And the constant drop off legendary weapons make them all lose the feeling of being special.

Which then turns me to the weapon customizing. Its bad. Theres a definite best mod for every weapon. Its not like you can make it your own.

Even still its a fun game. But if I could play NV or 3 over 4 with the 4s engine I would in a heart beat.


Goodsprings, Primm and Novac have about 13 named NPCs between them. To call them towns is an embarrassment to open world games.
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masterpug53
06/16/17 9:30:16 AM
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eston posted...
I loved it while also recognizing that it has many shortcomings

I highly recommend the DLC


This, in a nutshell. It was at least a noticeable improvement in most fields over FO3, and that's about all I could ask for.
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Doe
06/16/17 9:31:06 AM
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bretonftw posted...
It's just popular online to prefer NV despite it having less deep factions

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masterpug53
06/16/17 9:35:38 AM
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bretonftw posted...
It's just popular online to prefer NV despite it having less deep factions, being faaaar shorter and having about three dungeons in Vanilla.


I'm always curious as to your mindset and motivations when you make a post like this. Do you actually hold even a small amount of conviction in these statements, which rank somewhere below National Enquirer headlines in terms of credibility? Or are you hoping against hope that someone will actually launch into an unnecessary lengthy post defending NV, so you can lean back in your chair, put your hands behind your head and proudly exclaim 'hah, got'em?'
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giantblimpN7
06/16/17 9:38:25 AM
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It's good for running around and shooting things, but it's not a good rpg. Just depends on what you're looking for.
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bretonftw
06/16/17 9:38:34 AM
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Doe posted...
bretonftw posted...
It's just popular online to prefer NV despite it having less deep factions

ahahahahAHAHHAHAHAHHAH


Yeah it doesn't help that the faction questlines in NV are 80% identical. NCR quests are about 30% of the vanilla game's content, the Legion only has about 5 sidequests and the other two factions have none. Replaying for different factions in 4 actually gives a different experience.
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Balrog0
06/16/17 9:41:22 AM
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giantblimpN7 posted...
It's good for running around and shooting things, but it's not a good rpg. Just depends on what you're looking for.


I thought some of the party member interaction were pretty alright. A few side quests, too.
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bretonftw
06/16/17 9:48:46 AM
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And don't get me started on comparing NV companions to the likes of Nick Valentine and Danse. It's telling how the most popular NV companions are edgelord Boone and a robot who communicates solely in beeps and pointless audio tapes from his creator.
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Twinmold
06/16/17 9:49:09 AM
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masterpug53 posted...
bretonftw posted...
It's just popular online to prefer NV despite it having less deep factions, being faaaar shorter and having about three dungeons in Vanilla.


I'm always curious as to your mindset and motivations when you make a post like this. Do you actually hold even a small amount of conviction in these statements, which rank somewhere below National Enquirer headlines in terms of credibility? Or are you hoping against hope that someone will actually launch into an unnecessary lengthy post defending NV, so you can lean back in your chair, put your hands behind your head and proudly exclaim 'hah, got'em?'

He's right though. The internet has a huge problem with it's popular, therefore it sucks. If you thought this board's opinion represented anything, then every popular game would be terrible, and the only quality games would be weeaboo trash like Neptune and Senran. Haters and those looking for recognition for their opinions are always the loudest.
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salandrews
06/16/17 9:53:52 AM
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bretonftw posted...
salandrews posted...
The settlement system is straight ass. It holds no real value.

Oh no This settlement is being attacked... So what?

Also the settlement building is pointless. Its a hollow replacement to real towns.

Theres: diamond city, good neighbor, and bunker hill. Think I'm missing one.

NV: good springs, primm, novac, nv and it's surrounding areas, and more.

And the constant drop off legendary weapons make them all lose the feeling of being special.

Which then turns me to the weapon customizing. Its bad. Theres a definite best mod for every weapon. Its not like you can make it your own.

Even still its a fun game. But if I could play NV or 3 over 4 with the 4s engine I would in a heart beat.


Goodsprings, Primm and Novac have about 13 named NPCs between them. To call them towns is an embarrassment to open world games.


And who matters in diamond city besides nick and piper- who are plot driven companions. The mayor? No. At least the doctor got a gruesome side quest.

In goodneighbor who matters besides Hancock or no-nose- who is a side quest to get a companion.

Having a name doesnt mean it has life. Its shallow.

Goodsprings sets you up for the game and introduces a good vs evil dilemma in which you're free to choose. Sunny, cheyanne, ol pete, the barkeep, doc mitchell, and the caravaner all feel real.

In primm you save a town taken hostage. I will admit its more of a get in and get it done type of place but you can then talk to the MPs about raiding the prison. You also talk to the shopkeeps and their cowardly deputy. You put a robot to be sheriff! Place is great.

In novac you can solve a dark secret. The innkeeper, no bark, boone and his friend, the unprofessional doctor, and the farmers who are losing brahmin to a night kin. The kooky old lady with the 3 dogs. All good characters.

Point is F4 sucked in terms of towns and npcs. I was hyped when i met the sanctuary crew. Thought i would have more exciting missions protecting them and such. Instead they lead me to the settlement tutorial...
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Doe
06/16/17 9:57:22 AM
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Twinmold posted...
He's right though. The internet has a huge problem with it's popular, therefore it sucks

Being popular doesn't make it good either, and not liking F4 is not actually the most unpopular opinion.
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masterpug53
06/16/17 9:59:59 AM
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Twinmold posted...
He's right though. The internet has a huge problem with it's popular, therefore it sucks. If you thought this board's opinion represented anything, then every popular game would be terrible, and the only quality games would be weeaboo trash like Neptune and Senran. Haters and those looking for recognition for their opinions are always the loudest.


Well, if you want to completely ignore the actual content of his posts and just go for the general 'fake news' defense, then...sure, why not.

Alternate response: smgdmfh
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iPhone_7
06/16/17 10:00:14 AM
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It's a desert in a post apocalyptic world, it's supposed to be barren and devoid of content. New Vegas being short and the world empty was a design choice. It's perfect!
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Twinmold
06/16/17 10:01:59 AM
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Being popular doesn't make it good either

Meaningless statement really. Quality is subjective, and what you're trying to state is that everyone else's opinion is wrong, and yours is correct.

and not liking F4 is not actually the most unpopular opinion.

Lol, what is this sentence? Why do you talk like this? Lemme see here...

Liking Fallout 4 is an unpopular opinion.

There, translated that from alien. Obviously not English since anybody living on planet Earth would know that Fallout 4 is well liked. Its popularity and critical success is well known.
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bretonftw
06/16/17 10:03:05 AM
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>calls Cheyenne the dog a good character while ignoring Diamond City's sushi stand, memorable merchants, and numerous locations such as the science center and school while also ignoring Godneighbour's memorable merchants (KLEO?), the Third Rail and the Memory Den

My God dude. 4 has towns you actually want to go back to instead of spending 45 minutes in for a single quest each.

And criticizing the Sanctuary crew for only having one quest while praising Goodsprings... I might get sick.
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bretonftw
06/16/17 10:06:48 AM
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Wasn't aware the qualities of a good town in an open world game were randomly generated buildings called "Goodsprings House", a 10:1 randomly generated NPC to character with dialogue ratio and a short quest each to hold the entire town's content but okay.
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Doe
06/16/17 10:17:59 AM
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Twinmold posted...
Lol, what is this sentence? Why do you talk like this? Lemme see here...

Liking Fallout 4 is an unpopular opinion.

You really dropped the ball on that one bud

Anyway F4 fans on this board are delusional and will concede nothing in an argument so there is no point in discussing it
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Twinmold
06/16/17 10:24:21 AM
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Anyway F4 fans on this board are delusional and will concede nothing in an argument so there is no point in discussing it

Oh no, the anti-semite doesn't like Fallout 4 and is really butthurt about it. Whatever will society do?
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ThePrinceFish
06/16/17 10:25:26 AM
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StarReaper13 posted...
I dislike the dialogue, but mods make the game way more bearable.

bretonftw posted...
It's just popular online to prefer NV despite it having less deep factions, being faaaar shorter and having about three dungeons in Vanilla.


NV has better writing, the dialogue says exactly what you'll pick, and half of the time you spend playing 4 are loading screens.

Should be glad you can't see exactly what you're going to say. When you grab the dialogue mod that changes it to saying exactly what you're going to say; you become even more aware that every dialogue choice is the same.

In fact some of them are almost literally the same.
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Doe
06/16/17 10:29:09 AM
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Twinmold posted...
Anyway F4 fans on this board are delusional and will concede nothing in an argument so there is no point in discussing it

Oh no, the anti-semite doesn't like Fallout 4 and is really butthurt about it. Whatever will society do?

Ahahaha what the fuck
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Vyrulisse
06/16/17 10:36:09 AM
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bretonftw posted...
It's just popular online to prefer NV despite it having less deep factions, being faaaar shorter and having about three dungeons in Vanilla.

Wrong.
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