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_Goggalor_
06/12/17 11:55:47 AM
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I want to replay a game on Steam, but the product key has already been used on my PC I had almost 7 years ago. So apparently with PC gaming, you don't own your games. You pay for a stupid "license" instead. Yeah, I'll take a physical copy that I can install on as many damn systems as I want over this BS any day. No, I will NOT buy your stupid game twice because you think you're entitled to continual sales from it. You had your run, I paid you the money, now the game should be mine forever. That's how products work.
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Mernardi
06/12/17 11:56:26 AM
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06/12/17 11:56:39 AM
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TheMarthKoopa
06/12/17 11:57:24 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
I want to replay a game on Steam, but the product key has already been used on my PC I had almost 7 years ago.

So log into the Steam account you put the key into
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Bloodychess
06/12/17 11:58:05 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
I want to replay a game on Steam, but the product key has already been used on my PC I had almost 7 years ago. So apparently with PC gaming, you don't own your games. You pay for a stupid "license" instead.


Good Guy Steam strikes again
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Sexypwnstar
06/12/17 11:58:22 AM
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_Goggalor_
06/12/17 11:58:37 AM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
I want to replay a game on Steam, but the product key has already been used on my PC I had almost 7 years ago.

So log into the Steam account you put the key into


I did. It's EA's BS.

Alice: Madness Returns

It just keeps telling me the product key was already redeemed and then offers to sell me another one. Yeah, cause I'm going to pay you fucks for a game I already should own. lol.
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FrenchCrunch
06/12/17 11:59:39 AM
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pc gaming isnt a joke
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frozenshock
06/12/17 12:00:38 PM
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You can't use the same license key if you have a different motherboard
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Octaivian_Rex
06/12/17 12:01:03 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
I did. It's EA's BS.


So what your really saying is that Origin is a joke.
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Jabodie
06/12/17 12:01:46 PM
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With the way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if console games are digital only.

That's certainly where publishers are trying to take the industry.

Gamestop stock continues to dwindle, and digital sales on every platform keep going up.
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Virus731
06/12/17 12:02:51 PM
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Alice: Madness Returns is the joke
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_Goggalor_
06/12/17 12:03:10 PM
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frozenshock posted...
You can't use the same license key if you have a different motherboard


I know. Which is beyond stupid. I paid money for the game, I own it. That's how console gaming works and it's glorious. I could buy one copy of The Last of Us and then go install that on every system in a five mile radius. Because I own it. Not a "license", an actual game.
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Cocytus
06/12/17 12:03:10 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
TheMarthKoopa posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
I want to replay a game on Steam, but the product key has already been used on my PC I had almost 7 years ago.

So log into the Steam account you put the key into


This...you don't make a new Steam account when you buy a new computer....
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TheMarthKoopa
06/12/17 12:03:59 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
I did. It's EA's BS.

EA =/= PC gaming

EA is a joke yes. But they are irrelevant these days
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/12/17 12:05:01 PM
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PC gaming is steam.
Steam is pc gaming?
PC gaming is joke!
Oh my god, STEAM IS A JOKE!!
*spits EWWW*
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Cocytus
06/12/17 12:05:17 PM
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Virus731 posted...
Alice: Madness Returns is the joke

I like that game but it wouldn't work off Steam, so I had to get a refund for it unfortunately :(
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_Goggalor_
06/12/17 12:08:14 PM
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Probably also why piracy is so rampant in the PC gaming world. Because of BS policies, DRM, etc.

Tip to game devs if you don't want to look like a tool: Don't try to control anything beyond the initial sale. You deserve only ONE purchase of your game per copy, just the same as movies, books, and every other industry with an after market. Stop being money grubbing dweebs and people won't steal your shit.
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Jabodie
06/12/17 12:10:51 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
I know. Which is beyond stupid. I paid money for the game, I own it. That's how console gaming works and it's glorious. I could buy one copy of The Last of Us and then go install that on every system in a five mile radius. Because I own it. Not a "license", an actual game.

I would agree with you more if the full game actually came on the disc these days.

But in the long term, once online support for your PS3 or PS4 goes off, you will literally never be able to get a copy of the full game again without some kind of custom patch/workaround to download the updates from something like a torrent site.

Massive day 1 patches and constant updates means that the retro gaming scene for the current and previous generations will simply be incomplete with the physical copies. Modern trends have rendered actually having the physical copy meaningless, since ass tons of the game and bug fixes come in patches.
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Sexypwnstar
06/12/17 12:13:00 PM
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Sexypwnstar posted...
so what's the game

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SlashmanSG
06/12/17 12:13:23 PM
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Jabodie posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
I know. Which is beyond stupid. I paid money for the game, I own it. That's how console gaming works and it's glorious. I could buy one copy of The Last of Us and then go install that on every system in a five mile radius. Because I own it. Not a "license", an actual game.

I would agree with you more if the full game actually came on the disc these days.

But in the long term, once online support for your PS3 or PS4 goes off, you will literally never be able to get a copy of the full game again without some kind of custom patch/workaround to download the updates from something like a torrent site.

Massive day 1 patches and constant updates means that the retro gaming scene for the current and previous generations will simply be incomplete with the physical copies. Modern trends have rendered actually having the physical copy meaningless, since ass tons of the game and bug fixes come in patches.

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_Goggalor_
06/12/17 12:14:16 PM
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Jabodie posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
I know. Which is beyond stupid. I paid money for the game, I own it. That's how console gaming works and it's glorious. I could buy one copy of The Last of Us and then go install that on every system in a five mile radius. Because I own it. Not a "license", an actual game.

I would agree with you more if the full game actually came on the disc these days.

But in the long term, once online support for your PS3 or PS4 goes off, you will literally never be able to get a copy of the full game again without some kind of custom patch/workaround to download the updates from something like a torrent site.

Massive day 1 patches and constant updates means that the retro gaming scene for the current and previous generations will simply be incomplete with the physical copies. Modern trends have rendered actually having the physical copy meaningless, since ass tons of the game and bug fixes come in patches.


Better than not being able to play the game at all lmao. And I've yet to play a console game from this gen that wasn't just fine without patches and stupid crap like that.
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FrisbeeDude
06/12/17 12:15:26 PM
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Octaivian_Rex posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
I did. It's EA's BS.


So what your really saying is that Origin is a joke.


I'm surprised it took EA this long. Giving up 30 percent of each sale to valve? Fuck that
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Amputation
06/12/17 12:16:53 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
I want to replay a game on Steam, but the product key has already been used on my PC I had almost 7 years ago. So apparently with PC gaming, you don't own your games. You pay for a stupid "license" instead. Yeah, I'll take a physical copy that I can install on as many damn systems as I want over this BS any day. No, I will NOT buy your stupid game twice because you think you're entitled to continual sales from it. You had your run, I paid you the money, now the game should be mine forever. That's how products work.


PC gaming is for cowards anyways, so just move on.
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_Goggalor_
06/12/17 12:17:24 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
why are you not using the same steam account on your PC that you had 7 years ago?


I am.

EA's DRM makes it so you can only register the product key to one PC. It's not tied to an account, it literally expires and ceases to work as a code after so many installs.
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SlashmanSG
06/12/17 12:17:42 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
Better than not being able to play the game at all lmao.

If half the game isn't on the disk and needs to be downloaded, which is happening a lot lately, you ain't playing shit.
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_Goggalor_
06/12/17 12:19:33 PM
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SlashmanSG posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Better than not being able to play the game at all lmao.

If half the game isn't on the disk and needs to be downloaded, which is happening a lot lately, you ain't playing shit.


I literally have a friend who has never connected his PS4 to the Internet. Not once. He still plays games just fine. Never heard him complain about popping a disc in and not being able to play it.
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Sexypwnstar
06/12/17 12:21:35 PM
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So still no response on what game it is, and TC was confusing Origin and Steam, troll topic.

Moving on.
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Dustin1280
06/12/17 12:22:13 PM
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What game TC? Looks like this is an EA issue not steam...
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green butter
06/12/17 12:22:26 PM
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video games are for children
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Dustin1280
06/12/17 12:22:51 PM
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green butter posted...
video games are for children

Oh you...
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bluezero
06/12/17 12:22:54 PM
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Sexypwnstar posted...
So still no response on what game it is

_Goggalor_ posted...
Alice: Madness Returns

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SlashmanSG
06/12/17 12:24:37 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
I literally have a friend

Not a good way to start a sentence.
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Jabodie
06/12/17 12:28:45 PM
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Even ignoring that all physical copies sold today will only be able to provide a buggier, incomplete experience compared to how the developer wanted it, physical games sales are going down and digital sales are going up. If this generation lasts as long as the last one, don't be surprised if some of the next gen consoles are announced to be digital only.
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voldothegr8
06/12/17 12:30:24 PM
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So you didn't even buy the game from Steam, you just linked it. This is an EA problem not a Steam problem.
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_Goggalor_
06/12/17 12:30:56 PM
#40:


Sexypwnstar posted...
So still no response on what game it is, and TC was confusing Origin and Steam, troll topic.

Moving on.


Holy shit, it's literally on page one.

Alice: Madness Returns.

Lrn2read.
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_Goggalor_
06/12/17 12:32:15 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
So you didn't even buy the game from Steam, you just linked it. This is an EA problem not a Steam problem.


Except I did buy it on Steam.
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Dustin1280
06/12/17 12:33:40 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
So you didn't even buy the game from Steam, you just linked it. This is an EA problem not a Steam problem.


Except I did buy it on Steam.

Still not a steam problem, it told you there was third party DRM when you purchased it. It's EA's issue not steam.

If you mean EA has shitty DRM then yeah I agree with you, but not PC gaming in general.
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_Goggalor_
06/12/17 12:34:03 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
So you didn't even buy the game from Steam, you just linked it. This is an EA problem not a Steam problem.


In all fairness, TC didn't claim he had a problem with Steam, just PC gaming in general.


This. I have almost 50 Steam games. I love Steam.
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A5modeu5
06/12/17 12:35:05 PM
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Sexypwnstar posted...
So still no response on what game it is

Read post 8
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Jabodie
06/12/17 12:35:32 PM
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As somebody who likes to own retro games, the whole patch thing really cheeses my onions.

I suppose when the online goes down for these systems, there will be workaround worked out so you can just pirate the old games, but I wish I could just use the physical copy and play the damn the game.
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voldothegr8
06/12/17 12:36:27 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
So you didn't even buy the game from Steam, you just linked it. This is an EA problem not a Steam problem.


Except I did bit it on Steam.

If you bought it through Steam the key would still work unless it otherwise gave you a warning when you bought the game or lunched it for the first time. How does user error make PC gaming a joke?
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Leanaunfurled
06/12/17 12:36:58 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
Sexypwnstar posted...
So still no response on what game it is, and TC was confusing Origin and Steam, troll topic.

Moving on.


Holy shit, it's literally on page one.

Alice: Madness Returns.

Lrn2read.

Or maybe don't edit your post 2 minutes after the fact for people who've already been in the topic.
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