Current Events > Take Two CEO says they're "under monetizing" their userbase

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ZombiePelican
06/05/17 10:29:29 AM
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/170468-Take-Two-CEO-Company-is-Under-Monetizing-its-Users


And to think all of you who view microtransactions in games people paid upwards of 60 dollars for are benign or not that big of a deal just got made to look like complete fools as this man straight up doesn't even view you as human or even think your worthy of owing his games unless your have a constant stream of cash flowing to his bank account.
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Mei_von_Karma
06/05/17 10:31:08 AM
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RIP GTA single player
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ZombiePelican
06/05/17 10:39:18 AM
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Mei_von_Karma posted...
RIP GTA single player

Yep and apologists @Asherlee10 who gleefully drank the koolaid of publishers and took great joy knowing they're being fleeced for the sake of pleasing the unchecked avarice of publishers are entirely to blame
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AlephZero
06/05/17 10:40:31 AM
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can't wait to buy fake horses in rdr2 with real money
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ChromaticAngel
06/05/17 10:41:49 AM
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this comes a few days after they announce they bought KSP and I said it was about to go to shit and got attacked by a ton of apologists who are addicted to GTA and RDR.
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Shotgunnova
06/05/17 10:43:12 AM
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RDR2 Railroad Bonds, just $60!
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Blue_Inigo
06/05/17 10:43:42 AM
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Bu-but 60 dollar games need microtransactions to survive!
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Tropicalwood
06/05/17 10:45:52 AM
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But they're still charging at minimum of $30 for a game they release on the PC 2 years ago, a game which includes micro-transactions.

Hell, I still remember when they boosted the price during a summer sale and discounted them back to the normal price.
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snesmaster40
06/05/17 10:48:27 AM
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Makes me laugh that people are still hyping Red Dead Redemption 2, especially since Benzies isn't working on it.
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Error1355
06/05/17 10:52:34 AM
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Why are you even humoring the troll @Asherlee10? <_<
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Error1355
06/05/17 10:58:34 AM
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Ah okay.. Just as long as you weren't expecting to actually change his mind on anything. =P
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Trigg3rH4ppy
06/05/17 11:04:54 AM
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If you're still playing GTA online to this day after the loads of free dlc they've dropped, you're just being a cheap little peasant if you haven't thrown a couple dollars their way in one form or another. $60 does not justify being able to enjoy a game's online services for absolutely nothing years after release.
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ZombiePelican
06/05/17 11:06:58 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...


I still see no issue with microtransactions when they do not give an advantage to the player. Those include items that are just aesthetics. EX: Destiny emotes

So you enjoy feeding the avarice of publishers who use terms like whale, dolphin, and minnow to describe people like you? Why do you have no integrity?


Asherlee10 posted...
I also see no issue with microtransactions when players can get those same items by grinding the game. EX: Halo 5 req-packs

Because you paid upwards of 60 fucking dollars just to have to keep paying more to satisfy their greed, how di you see nothing wrong with that?

Error1355 posted...
Why are you even humoring the troll @Asherlee10? <_<

$0.50 has been deposited into your account byTake-Two Interactive Software Inc
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ZombiePelican
06/05/17 11:24:36 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
If you're still playing GTA online to this day after the loads of free dlc they've dropped

You mean the ridiculously overpriced items Rockstar drops to encourage you to buy shark cards or grind endlessly before getting tired and buy a shark card? And don't pretend that isn't their intention after they slashed mission payouts multiple times

Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
you're just being a cheap little peasant if you haven't thrown a couple dollars their way in one form or another.

No that makes me an informed consumer and makes you a corporate lapdog


Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
. $60 does not justify being able to enjoy a game's online services for absolutely nothing years after release.

That's not our problem and even if it was these are not starving indie devs barely keeping the lights on these AAA publishers with billions in the bank who spend the bare minimum in servers as it is. Your point is invalid

Asherlee10 posted...
I agree and this is going to make ZombieHeron's head explode.

No surprise considering you're happy to be the perfect corporate thrall
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Error1355
06/05/17 11:25:47 AM
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ZombiePelican posted...
$0.50 has been deposited into your account byTake-Two Interactive Software Inc

Pft, my YouTube account makes more than that a day and all I do is upload commentary free full NHL 17 games where I play on an easy difficulty and win 9 of 10 games. =P
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ZombiePelican
06/05/17 11:33:48 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
For about the 100th time, I have no problem with MTs that are aesthetic-based or can be acquired if you just play the game. It's up to you if you want to spend more to cut some corner

No publisher ever put microtransactions in games people paid upwards of 60 dollars for you to NOT buy them. Did it ever occur to you that these publishers graciously allow to "cut corners" as you put it because THEY put the corner there in the first place not because it's mandatory but because they are avaricious?


Come now, this is getting pathetic
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spikethedevil
06/05/17 11:35:24 AM
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Error1355 posted...
Why are you even humoring the troll @Asherlee10? <_<


@Error1355 You could you know do your job and moderate the troll? Or is that asking to much?
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Error1355
06/05/17 11:38:02 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Error1355 posted...
Why are you even humoring the troll @Asherlee10? <_<


@Error1355 You could you know do your job and moderate the troll? Or is that asking to much?

While the guy is a troll the topic itself or the posts he's made doesn't break the rules.
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ZombiePelican
06/05/17 11:39:03 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Seems like all you can do is call people 'corporate thralls' or 'corporate lapdogs,' but you can never provide any substantial rebuttal to the points made.

Are you literally illiterate? I have rebutted every so called points plus some every single time you make excuses to justify the unchecked avarice of publishers

Sorry if your shitty handwaving attempts don't fly with an informed consumer like myself
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giantblimpN7
06/05/17 11:40:04 AM
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Paid DLC is evil and microtransactions that then make that DLC free are evil. So people just want stuff to be free
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AlisLandale
06/05/17 11:40:45 AM
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Just don't buy micro transactions.

If you boycott an entire company or game, theyll change creative direction. If you refuse in-game transactions, they'll change their business model.

They do it because its profitable. Its profitable because people buy them.
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AzureAnihilator
06/05/17 11:40:51 AM
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"We're not going to grab the last nickel," he said.

Wow. After charging a premium for the tiniest piece of shit content in your games, you're going to spare this one a nickel? I am so grateful, masters!

This is the most pretentious fucking shit. This guy can take all his games and shove 'em. They'll never live up to the glory of the first Red Dead Redemption anyway, especially if they're just going to peddle more garbage and cut their game into pieces to sell it back.
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ZombiePelican
06/05/17 11:42:52 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...

I never said that was the case. But you aren't forced to buy them, either. You can either choose to purchase aesthetic items or grindable-items or not.

Again, the games are grindy because they were designed that way to test your patience against wallet.

Which again is unjustifiable
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Balrog0
06/05/17 11:43:15 AM
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ZombiePelican posted...
Come now, this is getting pathetic


your posts absolutely are, yeah
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Error1355
06/05/17 11:44:03 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Your deflection game is 6/10 at best.

That high? lol
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Balrog0
06/05/17 11:46:44 AM
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haven't games been retailing at $60 since the PS2 came out in 2000?

These avaricious game peddlers would need to sell their games for more than $85 retail in order to just keep pace with what they were charging nearly 20 years ago

I paid $40 for OW, so I'm glad that some chumps are paying the difference between that $40 and the $85+ I'd have to pay otherwise for the games to remain profitable
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Doe
06/05/17 11:49:40 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
If you're still playing GTA online to this day after the loads of free dlc they've dropped, you're just being a cheap little peasant if you haven't thrown a couple dollars their way in one form or another. $60 does not justify being able to enjoy a game's online services for absolutely nothing years after release.

lol imagine being this much of a cuck

They provided GTA Online for free yeah? Then that was their choice, there is zero obligation for someone to buy a virtual car or some shit for real money
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green butter
06/05/17 11:50:27 AM
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lol @ the microtransaction apologists in this topic

a fool and his money are soon parted
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Balrog0
06/05/17 11:54:14 AM
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green butter posted...
lol @ the microtransaction apologists in this topic

a fool and his money are soon parted


exactly why everyone who isn't a fool should absolutely love microtransactions
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ZombiePelican
06/05/17 11:56:54 AM
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Balrog0 posted...

your posts absolutely are, yeah

Pffft. Being pro consumer is now pathetic? Get the fuck out of here with that shit


Asherlee10 posted...
All I see is you insulting people that bring up issues with your points.

Lol again with the handwaving?

Did you even read the article at all? Take Two has raked in over half a billion dollars in revenue from shark cards ALONE and they STILL are not satisfied.

What good can come from this insatiable avarice?


Asherlee10 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Asherlee10 posted...

I never said that was the case. But you aren't forced to buy them, either. You can either choose to purchase aesthetic items or grindable-items or not.

Again, the games are grindy because they were designed that way to test your patience against wallet.

Which again is unjustifiable


Yeah, all those microtransactions in Skyrim sure did help me level up (hint: there aren't any).

Games that take a long time for you to complete increase their playability.

Taking a long tome to complete =/= grindy

Now you know this all too well and are grasping at straws
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Balrog0
06/05/17 11:58:28 AM
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ZombiePelican posted...
Pffft. Being pro consumer is now pathetic? Get the fuck out of here with that shit


idk how you're being pro-consumer by trying to get companies to charge me more
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ZombiePelican
06/05/17 11:59:25 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Error1355 posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
Your deflection game is 6/10 at best.

That high? lol


I'm in a generous mood.

And yours is a 3 at best. I don't resort to petty deflection unlike you and Error
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Doe
06/05/17 11:59:32 AM
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I don't see how ZombiePelican is wrong here
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voldothegr8
06/05/17 12:00:40 PM
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RIP Kerbal
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AlisLandale
06/05/17 12:02:34 PM
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ZombiePelican posted...
Pffft. Being pro consumer is now pathetic? Get the f*** out of here with that s***


Youre not pro consumer. You just bitch about micro-transactions and complain that they are anti-consumer.

What then, do you posit, to be the alternative? Mass consumer boycotts? Government regulation? Are you prepared for possible shifts in game development, distribution and pricing?

Personally I think game budgets are fucking insane and wouldnt mind if the AAA market was reigned in a bit. But I don't buy many AAA games so I have no stake in that fight.

Your problem isnt you making this topic, just to emphasize. This kind of shit should be exposed and brought to peoples attention.

But you escalated from "heres a shitty guy doing shitty things" to condemning an entire business model that doesnt affect anyone who chooses not to buy microtransactions, and completely ignoring the agency of people who do buy and enjoy them.
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ChromaticAngel
06/05/17 12:03:10 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Asherlee10 posted...

I never said that was the case. But you aren't forced to buy them, either. You can either choose to purchase aesthetic items or grindable-items or not.

Again, the games are grindy because they were designed that way to test your patience against wallet.

Which again is unjustifiable


Yeah, all those microtransactions in Skyrim sure did help me level up (hint: there aren't any).

Games that take a long time for you to complete increase their playability.


I can't really tell if you're being intentionally disingenuous about how much grinding some "free" stuff requires or whether or not grinding is even possible even if they say it is.

The latest anniversary update of Overwatch gave people a very short window with which to grind limited cosmetics. It would take on average 300 hours to get all of it except in order to actually play that much you'd basically need to not sleep and do nothing but eat and play overwatch. The only way to actually get what you want is to spend a lot of money.

It caused enough of a problem at Blizzard that they made an official response about looking for feedback regarding the lootcrate system.
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ZombiePelican
06/05/17 12:04:14 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Pffft. Being pro consumer is now pathetic? Get the fuck out of here with that shit


idk how you're being pro-consumer by trying to get companies to charge me more

You already are paying more just not financially but psychologically even if you don't buy any of their microtransactions.
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