Poll of the Day > Like seriously, I'm still trying to wrap my head around why people voted Trump

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DorkLink 05/26/17 9:36:07 PM #1:	He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it <cite>DorkLink posted [p:879880768] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PimpMyRhydon 05/26/17 9:38:20 PM #2:	He's pretty awful --- EMBLEM STEEEEEEEAL!!! <cite>PimpMyRhydon posted [p:879880894] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>He's pretty awful</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 05/26/17 9:39:19 PM #3:	~~Not everyone thinks the same, believes in the same, wants the same, or does the same thing as another.~~ <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:879880944] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>Not everyone thinks the same, believes in the same, wants the same, or does the same thing as another.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 05/26/17 9:39:29 PM #4:	He was good, and Hillary wanted war with Syria... it's not the voter's fault that Trump 180'd every single one of his campaign promises. Well, except the TPP, which was only about 45 degrees. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:879880952] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>He was good, and Hillary wanted war with Syria... it's not the voter's fault that Trump 180'd every single one of his campaign promises. Well, except the TPP, which was only about 45 degrees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thecolorgreen 05/26/17 9:45:45 PM #6:	PyroBlade1985 posted... DorkLink posted... He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it Sorry, but it's true. ANYONE is better than Hillary. A-N-Y-O-N-E. --- :wq <cite>thecolorgreen posted [p:879881270] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>PyroBlade1985 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DorkLink posted...</cite> <quote>He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it</quote> Sorry, but it's true. ANYONE is better than Hillary. A-N-Y-O-N-E.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TES_Nut 05/26/17 9:50:50 PM #7:	She really was the worst. Tainted candidate from the beginning. She's also super inconsistent, never commiting to a cause until it's been proven to be the politically correct decision. --- The ending of the word is ALMSIVI <cite>TES_Nut posted [p:879881531] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>She really was the worst. Tainted candidate from the beginning. She's also super inconsistent, never commiting to a cause until it's been proven to be the politically correct decision.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 05/26/17 9:53:32 PM #8:	There are horrible people in this world. Do you not recall chants like "Build that wall" and "lock her up"? Him being a dick and a bully made people want to follow him, same as a bully always has lackeys in school. It's a mentality that people may not grow out of. But that is a simple answer and applies only to his core base. You can't ignore how insanely corrupt the DNC is. They did everything they could to force Hillary, a very damaged candidate, through to the rage of a lot of people. She ran her campaign insulting Bernie supporters as sexist, a group of people she needed to vote for her. And based on low voter turn out not a winning strategy for a corrupt insanely unpopular candidate to alienate her base. So when Trump started talking trade that appealed directly to union workers it clicked. Something Hillary, who supported the TPP, could not do despite her last minute flip flops. His trade talk is what I believe won him the general election, while the hateful behavior is what won him the primary. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:879881665] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>There are horrible people in this world. Do you not recall chants like "Build that wall" and "lock her up"? Him being a dick and a bully made people want to follow him, same as a bully always has lackeys in school. It's a mentality that people may not grow out of. But that is a simple answer and applies only to his core base. You can't ignore how insanely corrupt the DNC is. They did everything they could to force Hillary, a very damaged candidate, through to the rage of a lot of people. She ran her campaign insulting Bernie supporters as sexist, a group of people she needed to vote for her. And based on low voter turn out not a winning strategy for a corrupt insanely unpopular candidate to alienate her base. So when Trump started talking trade that appealed directly to union workers it clicked. Something Hillary, who supported the TPP, could not do despite her last minute flip flops. His trade talk is what I believe won him the general election, while the hateful behavior is what won him the primary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jamieyello3 05/26/17 9:53:51 PM #9:	Now what I don't understand is why anyone would vote for Hillary over Bernie. Media propaganda's probably the reason. Priority #1 is getting out of the war and getting money and corruption out of politics. Until we get money out of politics this country goes nowhere but down. I'm not sure what there is to be done about the media propaganda machine. They'll be fighting for corruption until the end. <cite>jamieyello3 posted [p:879881684] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>Now what I don't understand is why anyone would vote for Hillary over Bernie. Media propaganda's probably the reason. Priority #1 is getting out of the war and getting money and corruption out of politics. Until we get money out of politics this country goes nowhere but down. I'm not sure what there is to be done about the media propaganda machine. They'll be fighting for corruption until the end.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/26/17 9:59:52 PM #10:	Because pretty everything you think about him is exaggerated to the point of silliness and based on the loudest ramblings of discontent generally voiced by the stupidest Americans. More importantly, most of the things people are whining about now are EXACTLY the policies that helped get Trump in office. DorkLink posted... And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it Maybe you didn't pay attention to the debates, but he was running against the likes of Cruz, Carson, and Rubio. It wasn't exactly a stellar line-up. Half of them wanted to abolish the IRS and/or implement a flat tax and, in that consortium, Trump looked relatively moderate. WastelandCowboy posted... ~~Not everyone thinks the same, believes in the same, wants the same, or does the same thing as another.~~ Pretty much. TES_Nut posted... She really was the worst. Tainted candidate from the beginning. She's also super inconsistent, never commiting to a cause until it's been proven to be the politically correct decision. Here's the thing: Hillary isn't as bad as people make her out to be. Sure, she's wildly inconsistent, probably modestly corrupt, and dangerously ignorant on foreign policy, but she's a seasoned politician who could keep most things running smoothly. She's vanilla ice cream -- she's nobody's first pick but, if you want ice cream, she's always there and she'll meet your ice cream needs. By contrast, Trump is Rocky Road which some people like, some people don't, and you never know whether it's going to have chunks of chocolate or nuts in there. And, of course, Bernie Sanders is a brownie. He has no reason to be there at all. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879881956] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>Because pretty everything you think about him is exaggerated to the point of silliness and based on the loudest ramblings of discontent generally voiced by the stupidest Americans. More importantly, most of the things people are whining about now are EXACTLY the policies that helped get Trump in office. <cite>DorkLink posted...</cite> <quote>And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it</quote> Maybe you didn't pay attention to the debates, but he was running against the likes of Cruz, Carson, and Rubio. It wasn't exactly a stellar line-up. Half of them wanted to abolish the IRS and/or implement a flat tax and, in that consortium, Trump looked relatively moderate. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone thinks the same, believes in the same, wants the same, or does the same thing as another.</quote> Pretty much. <cite>TES_Nut posted...</cite> <quote>She really was the worst. Tainted candidate from the beginning. She's also super inconsistent, never commiting to a cause until it's been proven to be the politically correct decision.</quote> Here's the thing: Hillary isn't as bad as people make her out to be. Sure, she's wildly inconsistent, probably modestly corrupt, and dangerously ignorant on foreign policy, but she's a seasoned politician who could keep most things running smoothly. She's vanilla ice cream -- she's nobody's first pick but, if you want ice cream, she's always there and she'll meet your ice cream needs. By contrast, Trump is Rocky Road which some people like, some people don't, and you never know whether it's going to have chunks of chocolate or nuts in there. And, of course, Bernie Sanders is a brownie. He has no reason to be there at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 05/26/17 10:03:13 PM #11:	Cool topic bro. This would make a great Facebook status. Everyone would think you were pretty cool with great opinions! <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:879882114] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>Cool topic bro. This would make a great Facebook status. Everyone would think you were pretty cool with great opinions!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/26/17 10:07:22 PM #12:	BlackScythe0 posted... There are horrible people in this world. Do you not recall chants like "Build that wall" and "lock her up"? Except that the US has one of the worst problems with illegal immigration in the world and Hillary did things which would have got her arrested in the private sector. The chants aren't entirely groundless. BlackScythe0 posted... Him being a dick and a bully made people want to follow him, same as a bully always has lackeys in school. It's a mentality that people may not grow out of. lolwut. Out of the stupid claims you could have gone with, that takes the biscuit. BlackScythe0 posted... But that is a simple answer and applies only to his core base. You can't ignore how insanely corrupt the DNC is. They did everything they could to force Hillary, a very damaged candidate, through to the rage of a lot of people. She ran her campaign insulting Bernie supporters as sexist, a group of people she needed to vote for her. And based on low voter turn out not a winning strategy for a corrupt insanely unpopular candidate to alienate her base. Yes, the DNC has its issues, but those were greatly exaggerated by Republicans and Bernie supporters who wanted to attack it to justify their own positions. The majority of claims made against the DNC were largely bogus and even the email breach revealed most innocuous things or, at worst, petty favoritism. BlackScythe0 posted... So when Trump started talking trade that appealed directly to union workers it clicked. Something Hillary, who supported the TPP, could not do despite her last minute flip flops. His trade talk is what I believe won him the general election, while the hateful behavior is what won him the primary. Which is basically a stupid spin to backtrack the idea that all Trump voters are monsters by saying that only Republicans are monsters. In reality, no large amount of either group are monsters or fueled by hate. However, the left's demonization of Republicans and white males has been widely cited as one reason for people backing Trump although I agree that there are definitely economic concerns. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879882333] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>There are horrible people in this world. Do you not recall chants like "Build that wall" and "lock her up"?</quote> Except that the US has one of the worst problems with illegal immigration in the world and Hillary did things which would have got her arrested in the private sector. The chants aren't entirely groundless. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Him being a dick and a bully made people want to follow him, same as a bully always has lackeys in school. It's a mentality that people may not grow out of. </quote> lolwut. Out of the stupid claims you could have gone with, that takes the biscuit. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>But that is a simple answer and applies only to his core base. You can't ignore how insanely corrupt the DNC is. They did everything they could to force Hillary, a very damaged candidate, through to the rage of a lot of people. She ran her campaign insulting Bernie supporters as sexist, a group of people she needed to vote for her. And based on low voter turn out not a winning strategy for a corrupt insanely unpopular candidate to alienate her base. </quote> Yes, the DNC has its issues, but those were greatly exaggerated by Republicans and Bernie supporters who wanted to attack it to justify their own positions. The majority of claims made against the DNC were largely bogus and even the email breach revealed most innocuous things or, at worst, petty favoritism. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>So when Trump started talking trade that appealed directly to union workers it clicked. Something Hillary, who supported the TPP, could not do despite her last minute flip flops. His trade talk is what I believe won him the general election, while the hateful behavior is what won him the primary.</quote> Which is basically a stupid spin to backtrack the idea that all Trump voters are monsters by saying that only Republicans are monsters. In reality, no large amount of either group are monsters or fueled by hate. However, the left's demonization of Republicans and white males has been widely cited as one reason for people backing Trump although I agree that there are definitely economic concerns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Action53 05/26/17 10:17:47 PM #13:	I just want to watch the world burn <cite>Action53 posted [p:879882867] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>I just want to watch the world burn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedPixel 05/26/17 10:19:07 PM #14:	PyroBlade1985 posted... DorkLink posted... He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it Sorry, but it's true. ANYONE is better than Hillary. A-N-Y-O-N-E. I voted for Trump because of this. I facepalm nearly every day at the shit that Trump does, but given my two options, I regret nothing. Trump is a disgusting vile piece of shit and he still beat Hillary. Says a lot. --- Working in a team is great! It always helps to have someone else to blame. <cite>RedPixel posted [p:879882936] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>PyroBlade1985 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DorkLink posted...</cite> <quote>He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it</quote> Sorry, but it's true. ANYONE is better than Hillary. A-N-Y-O-N-E.</quote> I voted for Trump because of this. I facepalm nearly every day at the shit that Trump does, but given my two options, I regret nothing. Trump is a disgusting vile piece of shit and he still beat Hillary. Says a lot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KevinceKostner 05/26/17 10:23:41 PM #15:	RedPixel posted... PyroBlade1985 posted... DorkLink posted... He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it Sorry, but it's true. ANYONE is better than Hillary. A-N-Y-O-N-E. I voted for Trump because of this. I facepalm nearly every day at the shit that Trump does, but given my two options, I regret nothing. Trump is a disgusting vile piece of shit and he still beat Hillary. Says a lot. Really now what would she have done worse? <cite>KevinceKostner posted [p:879883148] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>RedPixel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PyroBlade1985 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DorkLink posted...</cite> <quote>He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it</quote> Sorry, but it's true. ANYONE is better than Hillary. A-N-Y-O-N-E.</quote> I voted for Trump because of this. I facepalm nearly every day at the shit that Trump does, but given my two options, I regret nothing. Trump is a disgusting vile piece of shit and he still beat Hillary. Says a lot.</quote> Really now what would she have done worse?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/26/17 10:29:36 PM #16:	KevinceKostner posted... RedPixel posted... PyroBlade1985 posted... DorkLink posted... He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it Sorry, but it's true. ANYONE is better than Hillary. A-N-Y-O-N-E. I voted for Trump because of this. I facepalm nearly every day at the shit that Trump does, but given my two options, I regret nothing. Trump is a disgusting vile piece of shit and he still beat Hillary. Says a lot. Really now what would she have done worse? I don't think I have enough time to list all of the terrible things she might have done, but she bought into the whole wage-gap myth and she wanted to effectively destroy the gun industry by allowing lawsuits to be filed against gunmakers when their products were used to kill --- something that even Bernie Sanders said was stupid -- so she would have done a lot of things I hated. However, the biggest issue is that she would want to push for war with Russia -- which was a lot of her campaign rhetoric -- and she supported regime change throughout the Middle East and likely would have put boots on the ground in Syria. Donald Trump isn't a dove, but he's not half the hawk Hillary is. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879883439] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>KevinceKostner posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RedPixel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PyroBlade1985 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DorkLink posted...</cite> <quote>He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it</quote> Sorry, but it's true. ANYONE is better than Hillary. A-N-Y-O-N-E.</quote> I voted for Trump because of this. I facepalm nearly every day at the shit that Trump does, but given my two options, I regret nothing. Trump is a disgusting vile piece of shit and he still beat Hillary. Says a lot.</quote> Really now what would she have done worse?</quote> I don't think I have enough time to list all of the terrible things she might have done, but she bought into the whole wage-gap myth and she wanted to effectively destroy the gun industry by allowing lawsuits to be filed against gunmakers when their products were used to kill --- something that even Bernie Sanders said was stupid -- so she would have done a lot of things I hated. However, the biggest issue is that she would want to push for war with Russia -- which was a lot of her campaign rhetoric -- and she supported regime change throughout the Middle East and likely would have put boots on the ground in Syria. Donald Trump isn't a dove, but he's not half the hawk Hillary is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dedbus 05/26/17 10:34:56 PM #17:	I think alot of people saw it as a chance to say fuck you to the apparent establishment and how either side promises to be different than the other but always deliver to the same status quo. Trump just played that game better than the others. Then again some people just want L block to win. But what's important is that we're all part of the same Illuminati when we hang up our coat and hat at the end of the day so who the the fuck cares. <cite>dedbus posted [p:879883699] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>I think alot of people saw it as a chance to say fuck you to the apparent establishment and how either side promises to be different than the other but always deliver to the same status quo. Trump just played that game better than the others. Then again some people just want L block to win. But what's important is that we're all part of the same Illuminati when we hang up our coat and hat at the end of the day so who the the fuck cares.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadosAtPhoenix 05/26/17 11:03:43 PM #18:	Pretty much no one will ever gets convinced of anything by being put down all the time, no matter how strong the argument. Like kids who rebel to their parents just to make a point, adults do that too, even in extreme cases (and why reverse psychology can work, too, heh). Tell people they're bad for just thinking something, and frame all arguments in a way that they're not even allowed to discuss their points, and they'll rebel in any way they can. That's basically what happened. No matter how good or noble the causes, telling people everything moral is set in stone and not up for discussion, and you'll get the opposite of what you want out of them. <cite>ShadosAtPhoenix posted [p:879885061] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>Pretty much no one will ever gets convinced of anything by being put down all the time, no matter how strong the argument. Like kids who rebel to their parents just to make a point, adults do that too, even in extreme cases (and why reverse psychology can work, too, heh). Tell people they're bad for just thinking something, and frame all arguments in a way that they're not even allowed to discuss their points, and they'll rebel in any way they can. That's basically what happened. No matter how good or noble the causes, telling people everything moral is set in stone and not up for discussion, and you'll get the opposite of what you want out of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 05/26/17 11:05:51 PM #19:	not worse than hillary. lieing to feds during an investigation is a crime that should land you in prison. (it's why martha stewart went to prison) --- Kill From The Shadows <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:879885150] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>not worse than hillary. lieing to feds during an investigation is a crime that should land you in prison. (it's why martha stewart went to prison)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Bolt 05/26/17 11:09:17 PM #20:	"Cutting off the nose to spite the face." --- One day dude, I'm just gonna get off the bus, and I'm gonna run in the woods and never come back, and when I come back I'm gonna be the knife master! -The Rev <cite>Lightning Bolt posted [p:879885316] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>"Cutting off the nose to spite the face."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 05/26/17 11:19:37 PM #21:	Lokarin posted... it's not the voter's fault that Trump 180'd every single one of his campaign promises. If anyone honestly didn't see this coming, then I question their sanity. Trump's promises were so far removed from reality ("I'm gonna make Mexico pay billions for a wall!", "I'm going to make healthcare that's simultaneously more comprehensive AND cheaper than Obamacare AND it will still cover everyone AND it won't require a tax increase!", "I'm going to bring back jobs here, even though those jobs were lost to automation and don't exist anymore!") that anyone who actually believed he could follow through with them even if he wanted to was delusional to the point of incompetency. And that's not even touching on Trump's chronic lying... TES_Nut posted... She's also super inconsistent, never commiting to a cause until it's been proven to be the politically correct decision. Why is this a terrible thing? "Politically correct", in this context, means "Safe and what people want." I'll never understand why politicians like Clinton and Kerry get burned over changing their minds. If a politician comes up with an idea and subsequent evidence or analysis shows that idea is unpopular or ineffective, then yeah, they SHOULD change their minds. Sticking to your "cause" in such circumstances is the very definition of a sunk cost fallacy. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:879885785] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>it's not the voter's fault that Trump 180'd every single one of his campaign promises.</quote> If anyone honestly didn't see this coming, then I question their sanity. Trump's promises were so far removed from reality ("I'm gonna make Mexico pay billions for a wall!", "I'm going to make healthcare that's simultaneously more comprehensive AND cheaper than Obamacare AND it will still cover everyone AND it won't require a tax increase!", "I'm going to bring back jobs here, even though those jobs were lost to automation and don't exist anymore!") that anyone who actually believed he could follow through with them even if he wanted to was delusional to the point of incompetency. And that's not even touching on Trump's chronic lying... <cite>TES_Nut posted...</cite> <quote>She's also super inconsistent, never commiting to a cause until it's been proven to be the politically correct decision. </quote> Why is this a terrible thing? "Politically correct", in this context, means "Safe and what people want." I'll never understand why politicians like Clinton and Kerry get burned over changing their minds. If a politician comes up with an idea and subsequent evidence or analysis shows that idea is unpopular or ineffective, then yeah, they SHOULD change their minds. Sticking to your "cause" in such circumstances is the very definition of a sunk cost fallacy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssj4supervegeta 05/26/17 11:23:48 PM #22:	because he's not everything bad about people rolled up into one and every time anyone tried to use that as a reason not to vote for him they were basically admitting they were more interested in playing identity politics then giving any sort of real reason to not vote for him/to vote for hilary. when hilarys entire campaign was "trump is bad and im politically correct" she is dooming herself to fail. so far trump hasn't done anything particularly bad. the only thing i can see is the health care fuck ups. not sure why so many repulicans and him were so hell bent on getting rid of obamacare instead of just fixing up parts of it. --- LoL summoner: Vejitables Wanna know why me rogers so jolly? hehe <cite>ssj4supervegeta posted [p:879886014] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>because he's not everything bad about people rolled up into one and every time anyone tried to use that as a reason not to vote for him they were basically admitting they were more interested in playing identity politics then giving any sort of real reason to not vote for him/to vote for hilary. when hilarys entire campaign was "trump is bad and im politically correct" she is dooming herself to fail. so far trump hasn't done anything particularly bad. the only thing i can see is the health care fuck ups. not sure why so many repulicans and him were so hell bent on getting rid of obamacare instead of just fixing up parts of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 05/26/17 11:28:45 PM #23:	ssj4supervegeta posted... so far trump hasn't done anything particularly bad Not for lack of trying. The policies and cuts he and his appointees have proposed have ranged from awful to disastrous and it's thanks to a combination of court interventions, an ongoing cavalcade of scandals, and congress basically ignoring him that his ideas haven't caused more damage. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:879886266] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>ssj4supervegeta posted...</cite> <quote>so far trump hasn't done anything particularly bad</quote> Not for lack of trying. The policies and cuts he and his appointees have proposed have ranged from awful to disastrous and it's thanks to a combination of court interventions, an ongoing cavalcade of scandals, and congress basically ignoring him that his ideas haven't caused more damage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImmortalityV 05/26/17 11:32:47 PM #24:	Hate, fear, etc. Trump is basically a satanist pretending to be a christian to get votes. The way he treats women is the way of the unholy devil and as a divine social justice warrior I am appalled. --- -------------------------------------------------- Proud Social Justice Warrior <cite>ImmortalityV posted [p:879886470] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>Hate, fear, etc. Trump is basically a satanist pretending to be a christian to get votes. The way he treats women is the way of the unholy devil and as a divine social justice warrior I am appalled.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 05/27/17 12:32:17 AM #25:	Because all the other GOP candidates were ineffectual and Hillary was possibly the worst candidate in the world for the DNC. Bernie was the liberal equivalent of Trump and spun up a huge following - then the DNC played fast and loose against that motherfucker so people were stuck between two genuinely awful candidates. --- I find myself identifying strongly with Hitler - Blighboy <cite>Smarkil posted [p:879889050] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>Because all the other GOP candidates were ineffectual and Hillary was possibly the worst candidate in the world for the DNC. Bernie was the liberal equivalent of Trump and spun up a huge following - then the DNC played fast and loose against that motherfucker so people were stuck between two genuinely awful candidates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jedirood 05/27/17 12:58:57 AM #26:	Remember when people said "If you don't want anything to change, vote Trump"? Bet they feel stupid now. I don't remember who said it to me, and I wish I did. People over exaggerated everything. Hillary isn't a traitor or criminal, but people called for blood because they were told to. Trump is an idiot, and is ruining the country to please his few followers. He also picked the WORST VP he could possibly have. I might've supported him in some way at first, but Pence is too awful. I'll not support a man who would torture others to fit his own twisted version of reality --- "You're surrounded!" "All I'm surrounded by is fear. And dead men." - Darth Vader to an army foolish enough to face him. <cite>jedirood posted [p:879890063] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>Remember when people said "If you don't want anything to change, vote Trump"? Bet they feel stupid now. I don't remember who said it to me, and I wish I did. People over exaggerated everything. Hillary isn't a traitor or criminal, but people called for blood because they were told to. Trump is an idiot, and is ruining the country to please his few followers. He also picked the WORST VP he could possibly have. I might've supported him in some way at first, but Pence is too awful. I'll not support a man who would torture others to fit his own twisted version of reality</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 05/27/17 1:27:52 AM #27:	jedirood posted... I'll not support a man who would torture others to fit his own twisted version of reality It's been a while since the election cycle, can you just quote me about this torture of Pences'? --- I find myself identifying strongly with Hitler - Blighboy <cite>Smarkil posted [p:879891115] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>jedirood posted...</cite> <quote> I'll not support a man who would torture others to fit his own twisted version of reality</quote> It's been a while since the election cycle, can you just quote me about this torture of Pences'?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jedirood 05/27/17 2:55:54 AM #28:	Smarkil posted... jedirood posted... I'll not support a man who would torture others to fit his own twisted version of reality It's been a while since the election cycle, can you just quote me about this torture of Pences'? Conversion therapy for gays. As said before, I'm posting on an Xbox one, otherwise I would post every link I could. Even the possibility of it being real is so disturbing and disgusting, I can't support it. --- "You're surrounded!" "All I'm surrounded by is fear. And dead men." - Darth Vader to an army foolish enough to face him. <cite>jedirood posted [p:879893817] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jedirood posted...</cite> <quote> I'll not support a man who would torture others to fit his own twisted version of reality</quote> It's been a while since the election cycle, can you just quote me about this torture of Pences'?</quote> Conversion therapy for gays. As said before, I'm posting on an Xbox one, otherwise I would post every link I could. Even the possibility of it being real is so disturbing and disgusting, I can't support it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 05/27/17 3:08:53 AM #29:	jedirood posted... Conversion therapy for gays. As said before, I'm posting on an Xbox one, otherwise I would post every link I could. Even the possibility of it being real is so disturbing and disgusting, I can't support it. You mean the thing that he literally never advocated for but everyone just pretended he totally said he supported conversion therapy? --- I find myself identifying strongly with Hitler - Blighboy <cite>Smarkil posted [p:879894179] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>jedirood posted...</cite> <quote>Conversion therapy for gays. As said before, I'm posting on an Xbox one, otherwise I would post every link I could. Even the possibility of it being real is so disturbing and disgusting, I can't support it. </quote> You mean the thing that he literally never advocated for but everyone just pretended he totally said he supported conversion therapy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jedirood 05/27/17 3:53:11 AM #30:	Smarkil posted... jedirood posted... Conversion therapy for gays. As said before, I'm posting on an Xbox one, otherwise I would post every link I could. Even the possibility of it being real is so disturbing and disgusting, I can't support it. You mean the thing that he literally never advocated for but everyone just pretended he totally said he supported conversion therapy? Why would he admit to it? Ultimately, I refuse to support someone who thinks being gay is wrong and evil. --- "You're surrounded!" "All I'm surrounded by is fear. And dead men." - Darth Vader to an army foolish enough to face him. <cite>jedirood posted [p:879895315] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jedirood posted...</cite> <quote>Conversion therapy for gays. As said before, I'm posting on an Xbox one, otherwise I would post every link I could. Even the possibility of it being real is so disturbing and disgusting, I can't support it. </quote> You mean the thing that he literally never advocated for but everyone just pretended he totally said he supported conversion therapy?</quote> Why would he admit to it? Ultimately, I refuse to support someone who thinks being gay is wrong and evil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 05/27/17 4:04:00 AM #31:	jedirood posted... Smarkil posted... jedirood posted... Conversion therapy for gays. As said before, I'm posting on an Xbox one, otherwise I would post every link I could. Even the possibility of it being real is so disturbing and disgusting, I can't support it. You mean the thing that he literally never advocated for but everyone just pretended he totally said he supported conversion therapy? Why would he admit to it? Ultimately, I refuse to support someone who thinks being gay is wrong and evil. "someone told me you believe that so it must be true. denying it just means it's true, nobody would actually deny thinking that if they didn't feel that way...." basically the "logic" going on here --- Kill From The Shadows <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:879895556] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>jedirood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>jedirood posted...</cite> <quote>Conversion therapy for gays. As said before, I'm posting on an Xbox one, otherwise I would post every link I could. Even the possibility of it being real is so disturbing and disgusting, I can't support it. </quote> You mean the thing that he literally never advocated for but everyone just pretended he totally said he supported conversion therapy?</quote> Why would he admit to it? Ultimately, I refuse to support someone who thinks being gay is wrong and evil.</quote> "someone told me you believe that so it must be true. denying it just means it's true, nobody would actually deny thinking that if they didn't feel that way...." basically the "logic" going on here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGreatNoodles 05/27/17 4:07:11 AM #32:	Simple answer. People either agreed more with his policies (and hence voted for him) or disagreed to such an extent towards Hilliary's policies and hence they chose him to prevent her from winning. --- Mario Maker https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/thegreatnoodle Noodles Games: Part 1; http://txt.do/daqoz Part 2; http://txt.do/daq65 <cite>TheGreatNoodles posted [p:879895601] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>Simple answer. People either agreed more with his policies (and hence voted for him) or disagreed to such an extent towards Hilliary's policies and hence they chose him to prevent her from winning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/27/17 4:17:19 AM #33:	Lokarin posted... it's not the voter's fault that Trump 180'd every single one of his campaign promises. Except what exactly has he 180'd? He's pretty much done or tried to do everything he said he was going to do. The media kept trying to say that he was going to walk back his promises, but we're looking at a wall, we briefly saw a travel ban, and he's trying to force through a ACA change. He's also getting Canada and Mexico to re-talk NAFTA. He might be the first politician in history to actually go through with campaign promises @Lokarin Lightning Bolt posted... "Cutting off the nose to spite the face." He's getting rid of things voters didn't want in the first place. The fact that you wanted them doesn't mean anything. darkknight109 posted... "I'm gonna make Mexico pay billions for a wall!" Which he can still do. He's so far managed to push for new NAFTA negotiations, which is literally one of his other campaign promises. darkknight109 posted... "I'm going to bring back jobs here, even though those jobs were lost to automation and don't exist anymore!" Except for the fact that many of them weren't actually lost to automation and you're magically expecting him to do that the second he takes office. Plus blaming automation doesn't even come close to explaining the widespread abuse of the H-1B Visa Program (because apparently those whitecollar jobs were lost to automation!) which, by the way, Trump recently went into talks to change. darkknight109 posted... Why is this a terrible thing? "Politically correct", in this context, means "Safe and what people want." I'll never understand why politicians like Clinton and Kerry get burned over changing their minds. If a politician comes up with an idea and subsequent evidence or analysis shows that idea is unpopular or ineffective, then yeah, they SHOULD change their minds. Sticking to your "cause" in such circumstances is the very definition of a sunk cost fallacy. Well, that's misleading and intellectually dishonest. Hillary's changes are more than just a matter of changing her mind when the facts change, it's changing when the polls change. She has a "say anything" attitude which conceals her actual beliefs, if she has any; the fact that you're defending this when she's flat-out admitted it -- see her "public and private positions" statements -- is either stunning naivete or deliberate deception. jedirood posted... Remember when people said "If you don't want anything to change, vote Trump"? Bet they feel stupid now. I don't remember who said it to me, and I wish I did. People over exaggerated everything. Hillary isn't a traitor or criminal, but people called for blood because they were told to. Trump is an idiot, and is ruining the country to please his few followers. He also picked the WORST VP he could possibly have. I might've supported him in some way at first, but Pence is too awful. I'll not support a man who would torture others to fit his own twisted version of reality ...he says even as he over-exaggerates everything. And extremely over-exaggerates, not a tiny exaggeration like embellishing Hillary's flaws. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879895814] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>it's not the voter's fault that Trump 180'd every single one of his campaign promises.</quote> Except what exactly has he 180'd? He's pretty much done or tried to do everything he said he was going to do. The media kept trying to say that he was going to walk back his promises, but we're looking at a wall, we briefly saw a travel ban, and he's trying to force through a ACA change. He's also getting Canada and Mexico to re-talk NAFTA. He might be the first politician in history to actually go through with campaign promises @Lokarin <cite>Lightning Bolt posted...</cite> <quote>"Cutting off the nose to spite the face."</quote> He's getting rid of things voters didn't want in the first place. The fact that you wanted them doesn't mean anything. <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>"I'm gonna make Mexico pay billions for a wall!"</quote> Which he can still do. He's so far managed to push for new NAFTA negotiations, which is literally one of his other campaign promises. <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>"I'm going to bring back jobs here, even though those jobs were lost to automation and don't exist anymore!"</quote> Except for the fact that many of them weren't actually lost to automation and you're magically expecting him to do that the second he takes office. Plus blaming automation doesn't even come close to explaining the widespread abuse of the H-1B Visa Program (because apparently those whitecollar jobs were lost to automation!) which, by the way, Trump recently went into talks to change. <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Why is this a terrible thing? "Politically correct", in this context, means "Safe and what people want." I'll never understand why politicians like Clinton and Kerry get burned over changing their minds. If a politician comes up with an idea and subsequent evidence or analysis shows that idea is unpopular or ineffective, then yeah, they SHOULD change their minds. Sticking to your "cause" in such circumstances is the very definition of a sunk cost fallacy.</quote> Well, that's misleading and intellectually dishonest. Hillary's changes are more than just a matter of changing her mind when the facts change, it's changing when the polls change. She has a "say anything" attitude which conceals her actual beliefs, if she has any; the fact that you're defending this when she's flat-out admitted it -- see her "public and private positions" statements -- is either stunning naivete or deliberate deception. <cite>jedirood posted...</cite> <quote>Remember when people said "If you don't want anything to change, vote Trump"? Bet they feel stupid now. I don't remember who said it to me, and I wish I did. People over exaggerated everything. Hillary isn't a traitor or criminal, but people called for blood because they were told to. Trump is an idiot, and is ruining the country to please his few followers. He also picked the WORST VP he could possibly have. I might've supported him in some way at first, but Pence is too awful. I'll not support a man who would torture others to fit his own twisted version of reality</quote> ...he says even as he over-exaggerates everything. And extremely over-exaggerates, not a tiny exaggeration like embellishing Hillary's flaws.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 05/27/17 6:10:24 AM #34:	His party didn't bury any of their own to prop him up for their own agenda? --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:879897896] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>His party didn't bury any of their own to prop him up for their own agenda?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eat Man 05/27/17 7:58:39 AM #35:	Lokarin posted... He was good, and Hillary wanted war with Syria... it's not the voter's fault that Trump 180'd every single one of his campaign promises. Well, except the TPP, which was only about 45 degrees. The glorified car salesmen who ended sentences disagreeing with how he started the all campaign long, who would say whatever the crowd immediately before him wanted to hear to the point where he'd audibly mumble "oh yeah, you want to hear that, right?", who was unable to make coherent SENTENCES, let alone arguments in the debate, who knew nothing about a wide swath of critical topics, who actually said "we love the poorly educated".... ...he ended up not being a good president? HOW COULD THE VOTERS POSSIBLY HAVE FORESEEN THIS???? It's 1000% the voters fault. You guys actually bought you used car salesmen routine. --- Oops, my bad, that's my scenario. <cite>Eat Man posted [p:879899835] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>He was good, and Hillary wanted war with Syria... it's not the voter's fault that Trump 180'd every single one of his campaign promises. Well, except the TPP, which was only about 45 degrees.</quote> The glorified car salesmen who ended sentences disagreeing with how he started the all campaign long, who would say whatever the crowd immediately before him wanted to hear to the point where he'd audibly mumble "oh yeah, you want to hear that, right?", who was unable to make coherent SENTENCES, let alone arguments in the debate, who knew nothing about a wide swath of critical topics, who actually said "we love the poorly educated".... ...he ended up not being a good president? HOW COULD THE VOTERS POSSIBLY HAVE FORESEEN THIS???? It's 1000% the voters fault. You guys actually bought you used car salesmen routine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OneTimeBen 05/27/17 8:12:45 AM #36:	I did not vote because both were a joke to be honest. I would have written in Sanders. But Hillary blew it. And she blamed the FBI director that Trump fired. For investing her e mail bull ish. --- Still waters run deep <cite>OneTimeBen posted [p:879900131] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>I did not vote because both were a joke to be honest. I would have written in Sanders. But Hillary blew it. And she blamed the FBI director that Trump fired. For investing her e mail bull ish.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 05/27/17 8:52:21 AM #37:	Eat Man posted... he ended up not being a good president? HOW COULD THE VOTERS POSSIBLY HAVE FORESEEN THIS? Most people foresaw this, they also however predicted that Hilary would be militant. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:879901156] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eat Man posted...</cite> <quote>he ended up not being a good president? HOW COULD THE VOTERS POSSIBLY HAVE FORESEEN THIS?</quote> Most people foresaw this, they also however predicted that Hilary would be militant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/27/17 8:54:34 AM #38:	They voted for him because they have felt marginalized and disenfranchised by the media and politicians. They've been duped though. Trump might pander to his base but all he cares about is lining his pockets. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" <cite>Mead posted [p:879901220] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>They voted for him because they have felt marginalized and disenfranchised by the media and politicians. They've been duped though. Trump might pander to his base but all he cares about is lining his pockets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IAmNowGone 05/27/17 10:32:25 AM #39:	PyroBlade1985 posted... DorkLink posted... He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it Sorry, but it's true. ANYONE is better than Hillary. A-N-Y-O-N-E. This. Had Bernie been the democratic nominee he'd have won. Hands down. <cite>IAmNowGone posted [p:879904013] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>PyroBlade1985 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DorkLink posted...</cite> <quote>He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it</quote> Sorry, but it's true. ANYONE is better than Hillary. A-N-Y-O-N-E.</quote> This. Had Bernie been the democratic nominee he'd have won. Hands down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OneTimeBen 05/27/17 10:42:23 AM #40:	IAmNowGone posted... PyroBlade1985 posted... DorkLink posted... He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it Sorry, but it's true. ANYONE is better than Hillary. A-N-Y-O-N-E. This. Had Bernie been the democratic nominee he'd have won. Hands down. No question. But the dems were all about another Clinton. --- Still waters run deep <cite>OneTimeBen posted [p:879904362] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>IAmNowGone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PyroBlade1985 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DorkLink posted...</cite> <quote>He's basically almost all of the worst things about humanity rolled into one person And don't say "Hillary" because America had plenty of chances to get rid of him before Hillary had anything to do with it</quote> Sorry, but it's true. ANYONE is better than Hillary. A-N-Y-O-N-E.</quote> This. Had Bernie been the democratic nominee he'd have won. Hands down.</quote>No question. But the dems were all about another Clinton.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 05/27/17 11:09:34 AM #41:	People voted for Trump because they were tired of being constantly labeled as racist, sexist, and bigoted by the alt-left no matter what they did or believed. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a374/sage_assassin20/13295475117601.gif http://i.imgur.com/WOo6wcq.png <cite>Zareth posted [p:879905391] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>People voted for Trump because they were tired of being constantly labeled as racist, sexist, and bigoted by the alt-left no matter what they did or believed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Bolt 05/27/17 12:28:03 PM #42:	Zeus posted... Lightning Bolt posted... "Cutting off the nose to spite the face." He's getting rid of things voters didn't want in the first place. The fact that you wanted them doesn't mean anything. Cutting the nose to spite the face means hurting yourself to hurt someone else out of spite, usually implying it's not worth it. A lot of people voted for Trump out of spite. I wasn't griping about benefits he "cut". xD --- One day dude, I'm just gonna get off the bus, and I'm gonna run in the woods and never come back, and when I come back I'm gonna be the knife master! -The Rev <cite>Lightning Bolt posted [p:879908708] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lightning Bolt posted...</cite> <quote> "Cutting off the nose to spite the face."</quote> He's getting rid of things voters didn't want in the first place. The fact that you wanted them doesn't mean anything. </quote> Cutting the nose to spite the face means hurting yourself to hurt someone else out of spite, usually implying it's not worth it. A lot of people voted for Trump out of spite. I wasn't griping about benefits he "cut". xD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWorstPoster 05/27/17 12:34:09 PM #43:	Trump wants to protect our borders, deport illegal aliens, and protect us from terrorism, by using a legal method of banning citizens from specific terror-prone hostile countries. Hillary wanted none of that. <cite>TheWorstPoster posted [p:879908980] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>Trump wants to protect our borders, deport illegal aliens, and protect us from terrorism, by using a legal method of banning citizens from specific terror-prone hostile countries. Hillary wanted none of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jedirood 05/27/17 12:36:15 PM #44:	TheWorstPoster posted... Trump wants to protect our borders, deport illegal aliens, and protect us from terrorism, by using a legal method of banning citizens from specific terror-prone hostile countries. Hillary wanted none of that. It's always best to do the opposite of what you say. No one here takes you seriously. --- "You're surrounded!" "All I'm surrounded by is fear. And dead men." - Darth Vader to an army foolish enough to face him. <cite>jedirood posted [p:879909077] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>Trump wants to protect our borders, deport illegal aliens, and protect us from terrorism, by using a legal method of banning citizens from specific terror-prone hostile countries. Hillary wanted none of that.</quote> It's always best to do the opposite of what you say. No one here takes you seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 05/27/17 12:42:44 PM #45:	jedirood posted... Why would he admit to it? Ultimately, I refuse to support someone who thinks being gay is wrong and evil. Because he didn't? He never once said he was for conversion therapy. That's what our dear president would call 'fake news'. Even politifact had to retract their statement about it. http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/dec/02/gavin-newsom/pences-support-conversion-therapy-not-settled-matt/ --- I find myself identifying strongly with Hitler - Blighboy <cite>Smarkil posted [p:879909350] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>jedirood posted...</cite> <quote>Why would he admit to it? Ultimately, I refuse to support someone who thinks being gay is wrong and evil. </quote> Because he didn't? He never once said he was for conversion therapy. That's what our dear president would call 'fake news'. Even politifact had to retract their statement about it. http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/dec/02/gavin-newsom/pences-support-conversion-therapy-not-settled-matt/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 05/27/17 1:04:18 PM #46:	Oh trump supporters. The worst people ever! --- I'm either failing at a silly joke or trying to help. http://i.imgur.com/m8f7VYf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0Lp7Agd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/47emEDA.jpg <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:879910281] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote>Oh trump supporters. The worst people ever!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedPixel 05/27/17 1:25:48 PM #47:	SunWuKung420 posted... Oh trump supporters. The worst people ever! Blind voters in general are scary as all hell. --- Working in a team is great! It always helps to have someone else to blame. <cite>RedPixel posted [p:879911281] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>Oh trump supporters. The worst people ever!</quote> Blind voters in general are scary as all hell.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 05/27/17 1:50:08 PM #48:	jedirood posted... TheWorstPoster posted... Trump wants to protect our borders, deport illegal aliens, and protect us from terrorism, by using a legal method of banning citizens from specific terror-prone hostile countries. Hillary wanted none of that. It's always best to do the opposite of what you say. No one here takes you seriously. Aren't you like 18? Nobody takes 18 year old's political opinions seriously <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:879912461] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>jedirood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>Trump wants to protect our borders, deport illegal aliens, and protect us from terrorism, by using a legal method of banning citizens from specific terror-prone hostile countries. Hillary wanted none of that.</quote> It's always best to do the opposite of what you say. No one here takes you seriously.</quote> Aren't you like 18? Nobody takes 18 year old's political opinions seriously</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 05/28/17 4:20:10 AM #49:	Zeus posted... Which he can still do. No, he really can't. Assuming the wall ever gets built (and I'm skeptical it ever will), there's no reasonable way Trump can extract money from Mexico to pay for it if they aren't willing. There's been talk of tariffs, but that's just taxing American consumers of Mexican goods - that's a very far cry from getting Mexico to pay as promised. Zeus posted... He's so far managed to push for new NAFTA negotiations, which is literally one of his other campaign promises. He's "managed" to do something that he has always had the ability to do? Gosh, that must have taken some real effort. And why are you even bringing this up? I never said anything about NAFTA in my posts. Zeus posted... Except for the fact that many of them weren't actually lost to automation and you're magically expecting him to do that the second he takes office. Plus blaming automation doesn't even come close to explaining the widespread abuse of the H-1B Visa Program (because apparently those whitecollar jobs were lost to automation!) which, by the way, Trump recently went into talks to change. a) Lulz at thinking white collar jobs don't get lost to automation. Ever wonder how many engineers a computer replaces because they don't have to do calculations by hand anymore? Or how many lawyers were replaced by software that goes through the more tedious aspects of discovery? White collar jobs are absolutely just as prone to automation cutbacks as blue collar ones; it's just blue collar tends to be replaced by robots, whereas white collar tends to be replaced by software, meaning blue collar is the more visible change. b) Most of the jobs Trump's trying to replace (notably coal jobs and blue-collar factory workers) aren't easily replaced. Some were lost to automation and those are gone for good; some were lost because the world is increasingly moving away from coal; some were lost to cheaper foreign labour and, contrary to his campaign promises, that's not something Trump can easily fix. Yes, he can push for tariffs and taxes on companies that manufacture overseas, but there's a few problems with that: --The US is not an international company's only customer; it's still in their interest to use cheap labour for goods exported everywhere from China to Britain to India to Canada. --Some of what Trump has proposed would never pass a WTO challenge. And yes, he is free to ignore the WTO, but that basically opens up the US to retaliatory measures from whatever country he's challenging that would be similarly against WTO regulations. Trade wars tend to be bad news for everyone involved - you can argue about who would come out worse, but that doesn't mean the US is going to be in a better position at the end of the day. --Tariffs, again, are a tax on American consumers. Not exactly super-helpful to keeping the cost of living low. Zeus posted... Well, that's misleading and intellectually dishonest. Hillary's changes are more than just a matter of changing her mind when the facts change, it's changing when the polls change. Again, so what? She's doing what the public wants her to do. Why is that a bad thing? Zeus posted... She has a "say anything" attitude which conceals her actual beliefs, if she has any; the fact that you're defending this when she's flat-out admitted it -- see her "public and private positions" statements -- is either stunning naivete or deliberate deception. It's considered quite normal for politicians in most countries to have public positions that differ from their private opinions; I don't know why Americans find it odd or unusual. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:879948216] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Which he can still do.</quote> No, he really can't. Assuming the wall ever gets built (and I'm skeptical it ever will), there's no reasonable way Trump can extract money from Mexico to pay for it if they aren't willing. There's been talk of tariffs, but that's just taxing American consumers of Mexican goods - that's a very far cry from getting Mexico to pay as promised. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>He's so far managed to push for new NAFTA negotiations, which is literally one of his other campaign promises. </quote> He's "managed" to do something that he has always had the ability to do? Gosh, that must have taken some real effort. And why are you even bringing this up? I never said anything about NAFTA in my posts. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Except for the fact that many of them weren't actually lost to automation and you're magically expecting him to do that the second he takes office. Plus blaming automation doesn't even come close to explaining the widespread abuse of the H-1B Visa Program (because apparently those whitecollar jobs were lost to automation!) which, by the way, Trump recently went into talks to change. </quote> a) Lulz at thinking white collar jobs don't get lost to automation. Ever wonder how many engineers a computer replaces because they don't have to do calculations by hand anymore? Or how many lawyers were replaced by software that goes through the more tedious aspects of discovery? White collar jobs are absolutely just as prone to automation cutbacks as blue collar ones; it's just blue collar tends to be replaced by robots, whereas white collar tends to be replaced by software, meaning blue collar is the more visible change. b) Most of the jobs Trump's trying to replace (notably coal jobs and blue-collar factory workers) aren't easily replaced. Some were lost to automation and those are gone for good; some were lost because the world is increasingly moving away from coal; some were lost to cheaper foreign labour and, contrary to his campaign promises, that's not something Trump can easily fix. Yes, he can push for tariffs and taxes on companies that manufacture overseas, but there's a few problems with that: --The US is not an international company's only customer; it's still in their interest to use cheap labour for goods exported everywhere from China to Britain to India to Canada. --Some of what Trump has proposed would never pass a WTO challenge. And yes, he is free to ignore the WTO, but that basically opens up the US to retaliatory measures from whatever country he's challenging that would be similarly against WTO regulations. Trade wars tend to be bad news for everyone involved - you can argue about who would come out worse, but that doesn't mean the US is going to be in a better position at the end of the day. --Tariffs, again, are a tax on American consumers. Not exactly super-helpful to keeping the cost of living low. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Well, that's misleading and intellectually dishonest. Hillary's changes are more than just a matter of changing her mind when the facts change, it's changing when the polls change. </quote> Again, so what? She's doing what the public wants her to do. Why is that a bad thing? <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>She has a "say anything" attitude which conceals her actual beliefs, if she has any; the fact that you're defending this when she's flat-out admitted it -- see her "public and private positions" statements -- is either stunning naivete or deliberate deception. </quote> It's considered quite normal for politicians in most countries to have public positions that differ from their private opinions; I don't know why Americans find it odd or unusual.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rasmoh 05/28/17 4:53:12 AM #50:	darkknight109 posted... Again, so what? She's doing what the public wants her to do. Why is that a bad thing? Why is the political equivalent of "doing it because all the cool kids are" a bad thing? Are you for real? What if "what the public wants" is something bad/stupid? It's considered quite normal for politicians in most countries to have public positions that differ from their private opinions; I don't know why Americans find it odd or unusual. Because honesty is supposed to be important? --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:879948877] in Like serio... [t:75390650]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Again, so what? She's doing what the public wants her to do. Why is that a bad thing?</quote> Why is the political equivalent of "doing it because all the cool kids are" a bad thing? Are you for real? What if "what the public wants" is something bad/stupid? <quote>It's considered quite normal for politicians in most countries to have public positions that differ from their private opinions; I don't know why Americans find it odd or unusual.</quote> Because honesty is supposed to be important?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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