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Chances are you can't. This is the PEAK of nutrition.

And before you say 'the sodium', try working out once in your life.



The only thing stopping you from eating two a day is the saturated fat, which is still below the recommended amount for the average person.

Uhh


What even is the sandwich
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How about price?
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Grams of carbs is unreal. When I was cutting weight I was trying to hit under 200 a day. That's like Half a days worth
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The sodium worries me. But I'm over 30, so I gotta watch that
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charey posted...

How about price?

it's $8.40 with tax here, over $10 if you get it as a meal (with water & chips).

That being said, I usually have it as two meals (lunch and dinner), so ~$4.20 per meal for me. Still somewhat pricey for meals.

It's says at the top that's a six inch sub?
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High calories.
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Low quality bread. Low quality meats. Low quality veggies. Expensive price. Tastes like crap and is only acceptable to those that have never had a real sandwhich.
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itachi15243 posted...

It's says at the top that's a six inch sub?

it's a footlong (that text is displayed regardless of what you choose)

Leanaunfurled posted...

High calories.

Since I eat it for two meals, it's more like 450 per meal which is incredibly low.

That being said, Subway will do any Sub as a salad as well. So if you got this as a salad, you would drop a lot of carbs & calories.

NintendoFanGirl posted...

Leanaunfurled posted...

High calories.

Since I eat it for two meals, it's more like 450 per meal which is incredibly low.

That being said, Subway will do any Sub as a salad as well. So if you got this as a salad, you would drop a lot of carbs & calories.

I take it back, then. Also just read it's a foot-long, I thought it was 6" so my bad.
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It's Subway.
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>900 calories
>only 50g protein
>36g fat

lay off the mayo tubby.

FluttershyPony posted...

>900 calories
>only 50g protein
>36g fat

lay off the mayo tubby.

there's no mayo on this, just chipotle sauce.

That being said, you can add any sauce to increase the fat.

This is one or two meals, so obviously it's not going to be the single source of every single macro for the day.
It's perfect because it's high in everything, without being 'too high' in one thing

how can 1/3d of a GODAMN SANDWICH be comprised purely of fat BEFORE THE SAUCE IS EVEN ADDED?

>subway

oh right, they use the cheapest. reject meat which is either just connective tissue or fats that grocers and restaurants won't buy.

FluttershyPony posted...

how can 1/3d of a GODAMN SANDWICH be comprised purely of fat BEFORE THE SAUCE IS EVEN ADDED?

>subway

oh right, they use the cheapest. reject meat which is either just connective tissue or fats that grocers and restaurants won't buy.

Maybe you misunderstood me? I just said this had chipotle sauce on it.

Without the sauce, fat from calories is closer to ~150. So about 1/5th of the calories would come from fat before the sauce.

Subway's ingredients are gross. There.
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Subway is literally the fast food garbage tier of sandwich shops. Go to a real sandwich shop and a get a real sandwich made from quality ingredients
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NintendoFanGirl posted...

FluttershyPony posted...

how can 1/3d of a GODAMN SANDWICH be comprised purely of fat BEFORE THE SAUCE IS EVEN ADDED?

>subway

oh right, they use the cheapest. reject meat which is either just connective tissue or fats that grocers and restaurants won't buy.

Maybe you misunderstood me? I just said this had chipotle sauce on it.

Without the sauce, fat from calories is closer to ~150. So about 1/5th of the calories would come from fat before the sauce.

Did you use a whole bigass bottle of chipotlee sauce?

there's no way in hell "chipotle" sauce even comes close to 200 calories worth of fat, or am I seriously underestimating american "nutrition"?

FluttershyPony posted...

NintendoFanGirl posted...

FluttershyPony posted...

how can 1/3d of a GODAMN SANDWICH be comprised purely of fat BEFORE THE SAUCE IS EVEN ADDED?

>subway

oh right, they use the cheapest. reject meat which is either just connective tissue or fats that grocers and restaurants won't buy.

Maybe you misunderstood me? I just said this had chipotle sauce on it.

Without the sauce, fat from calories is closer to ~150. So about 1/5th of the calories would come from fat before the sauce.

Did you use a whole bigass bottle of chipotlee sauce?

there's no way in hell "chipotle" sauce even comes close to 200 calories worth of fat, or am I seriously underestimating american "nutrition"?

You're really reaching, man. Or you just don't know what you're talking about, or both.

A quick google search tells me one serving of Chipotle southwest sauce is 100 calories, with 96% of those calories from fat.

Since this is a footlong, that would be 2 servings, maybe a tiny bit more, or a tiny bit less.
So yes, that would be around 200 calories.

This is the sandwich btw.



fenderbender321 posted...

For years I've been saying Subway and Pita Pit are the best cheap and convenient options for getting a meal that is loaded with nutrition. They aren't perfect, but if you load it up with veggies like I do, you are giving your body some damn good shit.

agreed 10000%.

it's only recently I found out about the magic of subway. I used to avoid them because they get a pretty bad stigma 'it's not really fresh! their ingredients are gross! they aren't really healthy!'.

sure, it's not the freshest stuff around, but a subway sandwich is as healthy as you want to make it. it's almost 100% up to the customer.

Carbs are way too high. But that's because #Breadway

Also the fat is unusually high. Ideally fat & carbs should be inverse of each other.
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EvalAngell posted...

Carbs are way too high. But that's because #Breadway

Also the fat is unusually high. Ideally fat & carbs should be inverse of each other.

uh, what? unless you're on a specialized diet, carbs should generally be more than double your fat intake.

obviously this isnt 100% set in stone, it can be just double, or 1.5x, but generally carbs will be higher than fat intake by quite a lot.

I wish we had a Chopt around here

I guess I could do subway salads but it isnt the same
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For the tiny ass portions of chicken they give you, it's embarrassing that there's much fat in that sandwich. The fat in provolone is ridiculous.
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do you eat the same sandwich twice a day every day?
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EvalAngell posted...

For the tiny ass portions of chicken they give you, it's embarrassing that there's much fat in that sandwich. The fat in provolone is ridiculous.

the 2g of fat from the servings of provolone that they use?

???????????????????

>chipotle BBQ sauce
>1 serving (30 grams)
>60 calories
>calories from fat : 0
>calories from carbohydrates : 60 (16grams of carbohydrates)


>CREAMY chipotle dressing
>1 serving (60 grams)
>calories 270
>calories from fat : 240 (27 grams of fat)
>calories from carbohydrates : 30 (8 grams of carbohydrates)


Oh right, I remember now, americans just dump corn oil/mix ranch dressing on ALL their sauces to increase the calories by a factor of 10.

FluttershyPony posted...

>chipotle BBQ sauce
>1 serving (30 grams)
>60 calories
>calories from fat : 0
>calories from carbohydrates : 60 (16grams of carbohydrates)


>CREAMY chipotle dressing
>1 serving (60 grams)
>calories 270
>calories from fat : 240 (27 grams of fat)
>calories from carbohydrates : 30 (8 grams of carbohydrates)


Oh right, I remember now, americans just dump corn oil/mix ranch dressing on ALL their sauces to increase the calories by a factor of 10.

alright, now just re-read my message and you'll find that I'm talking about chipotle southwest sauce.

it's in the image I linked, I said 'chipotle southwest sauce', and you could have even looked up what kind of sauce subway uses.

prettyprincess posted...

do you eat the same sandwich twice a day every day?

No, but I don't realistically see why you couldn't.

The only reason I don't is because I would get tired of it fast.

NintendoFanGirl posted...

EvalAngell posted...

For the tiny ass portions of chicken they give you, it's embarrassing that there's much fat in that sandwich. The fat in provolone is ridiculous.

the 2g of fat from the servings of provolone that they use?

???????????????????

then that speaks volumes for the crappiness of the chicken. Chicken is typically low in fat.
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"southwest sauce"

is "southwest" an american style where they dump corn oil and ranch dressing on things that normally have 0 fat?

so "southwest" sriracha sauce would be 300 calories per 2 tablespoons as opposed to just 10-20?

EvalAngell posted...

NintendoFanGirl posted...

EvalAngell posted...

For the tiny ass portions of chicken they give you, it's embarrassing that there's much fat in that sandwich. The fat in provolone is ridiculous.

the 2g of fat from the servings of provolone that they use?

???????????????????

then that speaks volumes for the crappiness of the chicken. Chicken is typically low in fat.

we went over this, half of the fat comes from the sauce.

I'm not sure what you are complaining about though. Fat is good. If anything, this is low in fat.

FluttershyPony posted...

"southwest sauce"

is "southwest" an american style where they dump corn oil and ranch dressing on things that normally have 0 fat?

so "southwest" sriracha sauce would be 300 calories per 2 tablespoons as opposed to just 10-20?

*thinking*

Fat is never good lol. I'd much rather eat high carbs than high fat foods. I know you need SOME fat in your meals but when I was counting macros, my fat was never supposed to exceed like 40-50g for the day. You already are 75% of the way there on one meal.
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EvalAngell posted...

Fat is never good lol. I'd much rather eat high carbs than high fat foods. I know you need SOME fat in your meals but when I was counting macros, my fat was never supposed to exceed like 50g for the day. You already are 75% of the way there on one meal.

You are grossly misinformed.

Fat is necessary for hormone balance. Again, it sounds like you are on some specialized diet for whatever reason. Maybe it's right for you, but fat is necessary.

NintendoFanGirl posted...

EvalAngell posted...

Fat is never good lol. I'd much rather eat high carbs than high fat foods. I know you need SOME fat in your meals but when I was counting macros, my fat was never supposed to exceed like 50g for the day. You already are 75% of the way there on one meal.

You are grossly misinformed.

Fat is necessary for hormone balance.

as if i care about my hormone balance when I'm striving to look my best ;-)
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EvalAngell posted...

NintendoFanGirl posted...

EvalAngell posted...

Fat is never good lol. I'd much rather eat high carbs than high fat foods. I know you need SOME fat in your meals but when I was counting macros, my fat was never supposed to exceed like 50g for the day. You already are 75% of the way there on one meal.

You are grossly misinformed.

Fat is necessary for hormone balance.

as if i care about my hormone balance when I'm striving to look my best ;-)

If you are a male, this helps balance your testosterone levels with your estrogen levels.

If your diet is very low in fat, there's a decent chance these are imbalanced.
If you are trying to 'look your best', this means you will develop muscle more slowly.

(it applies to girls to, but I'm assuming you're a dude)

clearly you will look your best when your thyroid, cortisol and hormones are fucked up beyond belief.

Even pro bodybuilders in the "low fat era" of the 70s took in 50+ grams a day purely from the chicken breast and other trace sources of fat.

Well my macro splits last year were:

174 P 70 F 235 C

TDEE = 2262
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it's made by subway, that's the only issue that matters. subway is trash food
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EvalAngell posted...

Well my macro splits last year were:

174 P 70 F 235 C

TDEE = 2262

Which means your fat is less than 15% of your total intake. Unless you are a huge professional body builder, your protein intake is very high.

This has been studied often, at max you need about .75g/lb of lean body mass. So if you're 150lb of muscle, you only need ~115g of protein.

This also depends on how much you train though. Even .75g/lb may be too high, for people who don't constantly train to failure, they may only need .5g/lb. It's not 100% cleared yet. Some people say you only need .6g/lb, others say .8g/lb. But most agree that you don't need any higher than .8g/lb.

http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/

Giant_Aspirin posted...

it's made by subway, that's the only issue that matters. subway is trash food

What is trash about it?

how has nobody mentioned 135mg of cholesterol
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NintendoFanGirl posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

it's made by subway, that's the only issue that matters. subway is trash food

What is trash about it?

its made using the lowest quality ingredients possible. it's loaded with preservatives and sodium. it's not fresh at all.

subway is, hands down, the worst sandwich chain ever to exist.
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Bluster posted...

how has nobody mentioned 135mg of cholesterol

One egg has more cholesterol than this entire sandwich.

That being said, it's been debunked that dietary cholesterol is such a bad thing. The amount of cholesterol you intake does not line up with the actual amount of cholesterol in your blood.