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SupremeZero 05/24/17 5:05:44 PM #103: |
LordoftheMorons posted...
AHCA CBO score is out: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/24/cbo-issues-new-estimates-on-obamacare-repeal-bill.html To expand on this, there's also the rate hikes. Obamacare was expected to hike in rates next year (probably because of market fear caused by all this) by 20-30%. This bill's rates will be another 20% on top of that. So a 50% rate hike. Thankfully, I think the amount saved (1.1 billion, I think?) is not remotely the amount the senate wanted to pass it (2 Billion) --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 05/24/17 5:08:40 PM #104: |
Even better for states dumb or evil enough to request waivers:
https://twitter.com/sarahkliff/status/867482139566145536 --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 05/24/17 5:11:16 PM #105: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...Interesting. Would you acknowledge that what we classify as "hate crimes" are worse than similar crimes committed without bigotry? Why is that? Presumably the racist killer is doing so in a warped attempt to "clean up the neighborhood" too --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 05/24/17 5:13:15 PM #106: |
LordoftheMorons posted...
Even better for states dumb or evil enough to request waivers: *cough* It's 940% without waivers. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 05/24/17 5:14:59 PM #107: |
This really does sound like the MOST American health care act
--- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 05/24/17 5:15:29 PM #108: |
Jakyl25 posted...
This really does sound like the MOST American health care act Paul Ryan thinks so. https://twitter.com/CahnEmily/status/867481626657345537 --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BowserCuffs 05/24/17 5:15:35 PM #109: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...Jakyl25 posted...Interesting. Would you acknowledge that what we classify as "hate crimes" are worse than similar crimes committed without bigotry? I'd honestly say both are equally horrendously heinous. --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 05/24/17 5:17:42 PM #110: |
BowserCuffs posted...
I'd honestly say both are equally horrendously heinous. That's what I'm getting at too, I'm just probing Seph's philosophy to try and understand it because maybe I'm missing some important distinction? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 05/24/17 5:18:37 PM #111: |
This is a nice quote.
a 64 year old person on a fixed income earning $26,500 a year would have an expected yearly insurance cost of $13,600. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 05/24/17 5:19:08 PM #112: |
SupremeZero posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...Even better for states dumb or evil enough to request waivers: You're right. My bad. I guess it makes sense for prices to be a little lower in the waiver states since they'll be getting shittier insurance. Still a fucking lot higher than current law, though! --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 05/24/17 5:20:22 PM #113: |
If the people it hurts the most die off...
...they can't vote you out *head point* --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 05/24/17 5:21:16 PM #114: |
What a wonderful bill.
https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/867486740738699264 --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 05/24/17 5:22:10 PM #115: |
Jakyl25 posted...
If the people it hurts the most die off... This is actually similar to the reasoning for why (long term) AHCA lowers average premiums: the oldest and sickest people are all priced out of the market, leading to marginally cheaper plans for the people who need insurance the least --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 05/24/17 5:23:17 PM #116: |
Jakyl25 posted...
BowserCuffs posted...I'd honestly say both are equally horrendously heinous. One is logical and the other is not If your goal is just (and I'd argue ending a drug epidemic is just), then killing addicts is a logical solution. --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 05/24/17 5:23:58 PM #117: |
https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/867487551900323840
... so, Paul Ryan, your solution to the rates increasing under Obamacare is to increase them at double the rate? --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reg 05/24/17 5:24:37 PM #118: |
#LyinRyan
duh I mean the dude is literally all about fucking over the poor --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 05/24/17 5:24:58 PM #119: |
A militia in Libya has arrested (kidnapped?) the Manchester bomber's brother, due to the belief he was the mind behind the attack.
I don't know what the ramifications of this development are. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 05/24/17 5:25:21 PM #120: |
Reg posted...
#LyinRyan Also #CowardlyRyan --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 05/24/17 5:29:18 PM #121: |
https://twitter.com/BBGVisualData/status/867487534036791297
So I guess the uninsured rates will be back to their absolute worst from BEFORE Obamacare. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-FFDragon- 05/24/17 5:29:35 PM #122: |
SupremeZero posted...
https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/867487551900323840 that's a yikes --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up on a different Nexus? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 05/24/17 5:29:37 PM #123: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Not really. The logic "if I kill all the drug users no one will use drugs" is a tautology. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 05/24/17 5:30:20 PM #124: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted... This is actually relevant now, since the plan in AHCA appears to be "If I kill all the old people, they won't cost us money for healthcare" --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 05/24/17 5:30:57 PM #125: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...BowserCuffs posted...I'd honestly say both are equally horrendously heinous. in the sense that killing cancer patients is a logical solution to the problem of people having cancer you're killing the victims of the thing so there are no longer victims of the thing --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-FFDragon- 05/24/17 5:31:13 PM #126: |
but if they kill all the old people who will vote for them
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SupremeZero 05/24/17 5:31:58 PM #127: |
https://twitter.com/YahooNews/status/867489599144292353
... Hmm. -FFDragon- posted... but if they kill all the old people who will vote for them ¯\_('_')_/¯ --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BowserCuffs 05/24/17 5:33:20 PM #128: |
-FFDragon- posted...
but if they kill all the old people who will vote for them The new wave of edgy adults that think harassing trans people on the internet is funny. --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dancedreamer 05/24/17 5:43:28 PM #129: |
This whole thing reminds me of the Sliders episode where they go to the world where people over a certain age have curfews and are prohibited from working. And Howard Stern is President.
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red sox 777 05/24/17 5:46:04 PM #130: |
If the prices go up, people can quit buying health insurance. Then the insurance companies will raise rates further, and lose more customers. When they have no customers left they go out of business and the long era of health insurance in America will finally be over. Then we might get single payer.
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SupremeZero 05/24/17 5:46:33 PM #131: |
I'm wondering if the following is what's happening between Ryan and McConnell right now in private.
"Um, this isn't going to work, Paul. You're literally killing our voters." "But... but money." "This isn't going to pass the senate. You didn't even get half the savings I expected to need to sway the people who were worried about a LESS terrible bill than this." "DO THEY NOT LIKE MONEY?!" red sox 777 posted... If the prices go up, people can quit buying health insurance. Then the insurance companies will raise rates further, and lose more customers. When they have no customers left they go out of business and the long era of health insurance in America will finally be over. Then we might get single payer. This is technically accurate. But there's no god damn reason we should be doing it that way. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 05/24/17 5:56:10 PM #132: |
red sox 777 posted...
If the prices go up, people can quit buying health insurance. Then the insurance companies will raise rates further, and lose more customers. When they have no customers left they go out of business and the long era of health insurance in America will finally be over. Then we might get single payer. Yeah let's go the route that will take decades to implement for the sake of getting single player, assuring years and years of suffering. Insurance companies won't magically die off in a couple years. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 05/24/17 6:03:43 PM #133: |
That's the most uneducated view of insurance I've seen in a while.
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BowserCuffs 05/24/17 6:03:47 PM #134: |
red sox 777 posted...
If the prices go up, people can quit buying health insurance. More like "People will keep buying health insurance until they go broke because you need it before doctors will perform certain procedures, and they'll need to buy it early so that they can have their conditions covered." --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 05/24/17 6:06:39 PM #135: |
If it's too slow then put in a big tax on health insurance. Tax it to oblivion. Maybe they can scoff at 23 million more uninsured but I bet 230 million more uninsured will change things.
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BowserCuffs 05/24/17 6:08:28 PM #136: |
red sox 777 posted...
If it's too slow then put in a big tax on health insurance. Tax it to oblivion. Maybe they can scoff at 23 million more uninsured but I bet 230 million more uninsured will change things. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/545/OpoQQ.jpg --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 05/24/17 6:08:33 PM #137: |
red sox 777 posted...
If it's too slow then put in a big tax on health insurance. Tax it to oblivion. Maybe they can scoff at 23 million more uninsured but I bet 230 million more uninsured will change things. This is the single most "Well off guy sitting at computer" response I've ever seen --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 05/24/17 6:08:42 PM #138: |
Yes because Republicans are know for wanting to put big taxes on things.
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Peace___Frog 05/24/17 6:09:33 PM #139: |
Lol and in the meantime no hospital is performing anything and oh this is in the middle of multiple epidemics so everything will be fine. ok
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SupremeZero 05/24/17 6:10:26 PM #140: |
https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/867502050128613377
"Whoops" --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 05/24/17 6:11:08 PM #141: |
For fucks sake
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red sox 777 05/24/17 6:11:21 PM #142: |
TheRock1525 posted...
Yes because Republicans are know for wanting to put big taxes on things. And for hypocrisy. It's perfect. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BowserCuffs 05/24/17 6:12:26 PM #143: |
red sox 777 posted...
TheRock1525 posted...Yes because Republicans are know for wanting to put big taxes on things. Peace___Frog posted... Lol and in the meantime no hospital is performing anything and oh this is in the middle of multiple epidemics so everything will be fine. ok --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 05/24/17 6:13:39 PM #144: |
Ok, people seem to have difficulty discerning which of my posts are meant to be humorous, so I think I'll step away for a bit right now.
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BowserCuffs 05/24/17 6:14:52 PM #145: |
red sox 777 posted...
Ok, people seem to have difficulty discerning which of my posts are meant to be humorous, so I think I'll step away for a bit right now. This isn't any different from what you usually post. --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 05/24/17 6:16:52 PM #146: |
Maybe health insurance is poor material for comedy
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Ashethan 05/24/17 6:16:59 PM #147: |
Remember: Republicans don't want to pay for other people's health insurance.
...why none of them seem to understand this is exactly what Health Insurance is, is beyond me. --- Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 05/24/17 6:20:11 PM #148: |
BowserCuffs posted...
red sox 777 posted...Ok, people seem to have difficulty discerning which of my posts are meant to be humorous, so I think I'll step away for a bit right now. Probably the majority of initial posts I make in this topic recently are meant to be funny, but all of them are meant to at least be interesting. I'm not sure there's actually too much to discuss here anymore that I care about as the topic seems to have reached an impasse on most substantive issues. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 05/24/17 7:14:48 PM #149: |
“At one point, Francis kidded with the first couple. While shaking Melania Trump’s hand, he asked what she fed him. Potizza, he asked? ... the pope called Trump fat. And Melania agreed. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Not_an_Owl 05/24/17 7:15:35 PM #150: |
SupremeZero posted...
“At one point, Francis kidded with the first couple. While shaking Melania Trump’s hand, he asked what she fed him. Potizza, he asked? He probably knows more about her homeland and culture than her husband does. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 05/24/17 7:16:21 PM #151: |
Not_an_Owl posted...
SupremeZero posted...“At one point, Francis kidded with the first couple. While shaking Melania Trump’s hand, he asked what she fed him. Potizza, he asked? Guaranteed --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 05/24/17 7:16:49 PM #152: |
Now in video form.
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/867376122954211331 --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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