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LordoftheMorons
05/19/17 5:45:21 PM
#351:


My Immortal posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Anddddd WaPo with another one - the Russia probe is investigating someone currently in the White House:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russia-probe-reaches-current-white-house-official-people-familiar-with-the-case-say/2017/05/19/7685adba-3c99-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html

I would think Kushner is the safe bet here.

Confirmed: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jared-kushner-russia-investigation-trump-song-in-law-probe-person-interest-a7745916.html
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/19/17 5:52:59 PM
#352:


Song in law. lol. trump maybe wants to get rid of the guy so he can have ivanka to himself?
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-FFDragon-
05/19/17 5:53:30 PM
#353:


Trump song in law
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Jakyl25
05/19/17 6:04:31 PM
#354:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Song in law. lol. trump maybe wants to get rid of the guy so he can have ivanka to himself?


There's a certain segment of bigots that love Trump who have wanted Kushner out from the beginning

Because he's Jewish
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Jakyl25
05/19/17 6:06:35 PM
#355:


The intensity of the probe is expected to accelerate in the coming weeks


That's what she said
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LordoftheMorons
05/19/17 6:14:45 PM
#356:


Fucking piece of shit in chief has told advisers that he wants to end the Obamacare CSRs to "force the Democrats to the table": http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/19/donald-trump-end-payments-obamacare-subsidies-238616

Even Tom Price apparently is not down with this stupidity
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charmander6000
05/19/17 6:19:19 PM
#357:


We're still waiting for the US to officially start NAFTA talks, it's best to ignore his threats.
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LordoftheMorons
05/19/17 6:20:54 PM
#358:


Unfortunately insurers can't ignore his threats and are forced to make very real premium increases in order to hedge against the risk of him not bluffing (assuming they don't leave potentially unprofitable markets altogether)
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Jakyl25
05/19/17 6:20:59 PM
#359:


https://twitter.com/samswey/status/865602050209357825

Some of you will be appalled by this thread.

Some of you may sadly already be aware of things like it.

Still others will make all the excuses in the world for it.

I just thought you should see it.
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Peace___Frog
05/19/17 6:26:09 PM
#360:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Unfortunately insurers can't ignore his threats and are forced to make very real premium increases in order to hedge against the risk of him not bluffing (assuming they don't leave potentially unprofitable markets altogether)

Ding ding ding
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StealThisSheen
05/19/17 6:50:11 PM
#361:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/samswey/status/865602050209357825

Some of you will be appalled by this thread.

Some of you may sadly already be aware of things like it.

Still others will make all the excuses in the world for it.

I just thought you should see it.


Even worse, I'd bet there are three, maybe four here who would argue that this is exactly how it should be
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Peace___Frog
05/19/17 6:51:11 PM
#362:


I'm seeing one report that comey has agreed to testify in an open session before the Senate intelligence committee, but we should wait for more confirmation before getting overly excited.
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BowserCuffs
05/19/17 6:55:59 PM
#363:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/samswey/status/865602050209357825

Some of you will be appalled by this thread.

Some of you may sadly already be aware of things like it.

Still others will make all the excuses in the world for it.

I just thought you should see it.


People support the dehumanization and cruel treatment of criminals all the time, unfortunately, even though it's been proven to increase the recidivism rate. The logic is that 'if prison is too comfortable, they'll just want to go back', but it just seems like the opposite is happening.

Funnily enough, those countries where criminals seem to get lavish accomodations actually have a really low recidivism rate. As in, criminals don't go back to jail.

It's almost like reformation requires not being a fucking jackass to the people being reformed. Wow, what a novel concept right.

But the problem is that people don't want reformation, they want to punish people. They want the state to participate in their vengeance, even if the person being punished didn't even personally wrong them.

Lawful Arrogance is truly a horrendously evil thing.
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Jakyl25
05/19/17 7:03:32 PM
#364:


Even setting aside anything related to race, that incarceration index thing is appalling.

How the hell are 1.6% of people living in Louisiana incarcerated? That's ridiculous!
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Eddv
05/19/17 7:07:53 PM
#365:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/samswey/status/865602050209357825

Some of you will be appalled by this thread.

Some of you may sadly already be aware of things like it.

Still others will make all the excuses in the world for it.

I just thought you should see it.



No doubt this is all run by private prisons too
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Jakyl25
05/19/17 7:27:22 PM
#366:


https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/865688514675040256

Fox News starting to slip

Is it the loss of O'Reilly? Their insistence to avoid touchy topics for Trump? Or a mixture?
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GuessMyUserName
05/19/17 7:33:11 PM
#367:


SupremeZero posted...
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/865643406906634241
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/865643998173470721

... an Official White House Memo.

Well, you had a good (... for you) run.

how the hell do you have such a complete brainless moron for president
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BowserCuffs
05/19/17 7:36:21 PM
#368:


GuessMyUserName posted...
SupremeZero posted...
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/865643406906634241
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/865643998173470721

... an Official White House Memo.

Well, you had a good (... for you) run.

how the hell do you have such a complete brainless moron for president


Because we had several groups of people in enough states that voted for him because they literally believed the following:

1. That Hillary has been having people killed to cover up a conspiracy/was doing something horrendously incompetent with the e-mails (nevermind that Secretaries of State have been doing this forever, and that worse has happened to the e-mails under Bush)/that she's part of an evil satanic pedophilic cannibalistic cult operating out of a local pizzeria
2. That sticking it to the Ess-Jay-Doubleyous was more important than choosing a good leader
3. That Trump would lead to the rise of the white race against the evils of multiculturalism (no, seriously)
4. That people who didn't vote for Bernie in the primaries needed to be punished (....no, seriously)
5. That Fox News isn't a propaganda mill
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redrocket_pub
05/19/17 7:38:26 PM
#369:


BowserCuffs posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...
SupremeZero posted...
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/865643406906634241
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/865643998173470721

... an Official White House Memo.

Well, you had a good (... for you) run.

how the hell do you have such a complete brainless moron for president


Because we had several groups of people in enough states that voted for him because they literally believed the following:

1. That Hillary has been having people killed to cover up a conspiracy
2. That sticking it to the Ess-Jay-Doubleyous was more important than choosing a good leader
3. That Trump would lead to the rise of the white race against the evils of multiculturalism (no, seriously)
4. That Fox News isn't a propaganda mill


Sadly I personally know people IRL who literally believe the Clintons have had dozens of people murdered to cover up various schemes of theirs.
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BowserCuffs
05/19/17 7:39:49 PM
#370:


redrocket_pub posted...

Sadly I personally know people IRL who literally believe the Clintons have had dozens of people murdered to cover up various schemes of theirs.


That sucks, sorry dude.
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Leafeon13N
05/19/17 7:40:55 PM
#371:


If we had just nominated Hillary first, Obama would be President right now.
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Eddv
05/19/17 7:41:55 PM
#372:


I legit think Biden would be President right now if his son hadnt died.
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SupremeZero
05/19/17 7:42:01 PM
#373:


GuessMyUserName posted...
SupremeZero posted...
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/865643406906634241
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/865643998173470721

... an Official White House Memo.

Well, you had a good (... for you) run.

how the hell do you have such a complete brainless moron for president

15~% of our country is mind-numbingly stupid.
Another 25~% of our country couldn't be assed to pick one guy besides this guy, and when this guy was picked they went "PARTY OR HELLLLLLLL"
Our system is rigged in favor of these 40~%.
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TheRock1525
05/19/17 7:43:37 PM
#374:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/865688514675040256

Fox News starting to slip

Is it the loss of O'Reilly? Their insistence to avoid touchy topics for Trump? Or a mixture?


Conservatives have alternatives that lavish Trump with nothing but praise in Breitbart and Infowars. Fox is still definitely on the Trump train but they still have to report on, you know, news. They try to give it a pro-Trump spin the best than I can but because it isn't completely positive Trump reporting they're losing some of their viewership.

It's why they desperately run segments about Hillary Clinton during Tucker Carlson while other channels run the actual breaking news, and they're pleasing neither group.
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TheRock1525
05/19/17 7:43:57 PM
#375:


Also Bob Beckel got fired again from Fox News.
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-FFDragon-
05/19/17 7:44:02 PM
#376:


Eddv posted...
I legit think Biden would be President right now if his son hadnt died.


This would have been the brightest timeline.
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SupremeZero
05/19/17 7:44:30 PM
#377:


Incidentally, the White House is reportedly "researching impeachment".

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/865688724201451520
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red sox 777
05/19/17 7:44:49 PM
#378:


The mass incarceration in the USA is sickening. The disparity between the amount of time courts and attorneys give to civil cases compared with the average criminal case against a person with no means is also sickening. Half an hour to meet with your public defender once, consider the prosecution's offer, and plead guilty so you can go home with a criminal record. Or you can stay in jail awaiting trial and risk a long sentence if you lose.

In the meantime you can trust no one as every word you say could be used against you, except things said to your attorney. But how would you know you can trust them even that far, when the police and a lot of people in the system can legally lie to you?
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transience
05/19/17 7:45:02 PM
#379:


fox slipping makes pretty obvious sense for multiple reasons, but the biggest one is that they're not really covering the trump scandal. that stuff is big ratings and they're being very partisan.
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SupremeZero
05/19/17 7:45:50 PM
#380:


transience posted...
fox slipping makes pretty obvious sense for multiple reasons, but the biggest one is that they're not really covering the trump scandal. that stuff is big ratings and they're being very partisan.

As I understand it, while other news stations were covering Trump Scandal, Fox News was covering... tornadoes.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/19/17 7:46:00 PM
#381:


TheRock1525 posted...
Conservatives have alternatives that lavish Trump with nothing but praise in Breitbart and Infowars. Fox is still definitely on the Trump train but they still have to report on, you know, news. They try to give it a pro-Trump spin the best than I can but because it isn't completely positive Trump reporting they're losing some of their viewership.


plus there was the whole megyn kelly debacle. trump drones are probably still mad about that.
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red sox 777
05/19/17 7:48:02 PM
#382:


The Megyn Kelly thing was a big success for Trump I think. It proved he was against all media, even Fox News.
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Leafeon13N
05/19/17 7:48:21 PM
#383:


Fox News must amend every statement with fake news/media or illegal leaks. That is how they are surviving right now.
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LordoftheMorons
05/19/17 7:48:41 PM
#384:


Eddv posted...
I legit think Biden would be President right now if his son hadnt died.

I think he would have beaten Trump, but I'm not sure he would have beaten Hillary in the primary
(I would have been very happy with either of them as president, though)
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redrocket_pub
05/19/17 7:49:56 PM
#385:


The Sanders/Clinton/Biden primary would have been something.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/19/17 7:50:41 PM
#386:


red sox 777 posted...
The Megyn Kelly thing was a big success for Trump I think.


after it happened trump went up in the polls (as muffin liked to point out) so yeah, it didn't seem to hurt him. i thought he handled the whole thing incredibly poorly but apparently it worked.
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TheRock1525
05/19/17 7:51:18 PM
#387:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Conservatives have alternatives that lavish Trump with nothing but praise in Breitbart and Infowars. Fox is still definitely on the Trump train but they still have to report on, you know, news. They try to give it a pro-Trump spin the best than I can but because it isn't completely positive Trump reporting they're losing some of their viewership.


plus there was the whole megyn kelly debacle. trump drones are probably still mad about that.


Keep in mind their initial reaction to Kelly was to give her then replacement Tucker Carlson amazing ratings.

Then he cooled off then they realized his entire show was "host opposition people and stare at them confusedly like they're claiming cats faked the moon landing."
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Leafeon13N
05/19/17 7:51:19 PM
#388:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Eddv posted...
I legit think Biden would be President right now if his son hadnt died.

I think he would have beaten Trump, but I'm not sure he would have beaten Hillary in the primary
(I would have been very happy with either of them as president, though)


At the very least, Bernie Sanders never becomes a factor if Biden runs. That helps whoever would have been the nominee.
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Eddv
05/19/17 7:52:53 PM
#389:


redrocket_pub posted...
The Sanders/Clinton/Biden primary would have been something.


Yeah the real problem with thr primary was that O Malley was a lightweight and the two visions articulated were really different from each other and associated with strong personalities.

Biden generally has a message that appeals to the working class without resorting to populism which is really the best of both worlds to some extent.
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LordoftheMorons
05/19/17 7:52:57 PM
#390:


I don't think Sanders would have ever gotten a foothold if Biden had been there; he just would have been another Kucinich or something. He needed the anti-Hillary Dems to hit the critical mass necessary to be taken seriously, and Biden would have taken all of the purely anti-Hillary voters if he had been running.
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red sox 777
05/19/17 7:55:16 PM
#391:


Biden would have gotten wrecked in the primary by Hillary, sadly. This Democratic Party shuts its eyes and ears and just will not listen.
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Jakyl25
05/19/17 7:56:19 PM
#392:


red sox 777 posted...
The Megyn Kelly thing was a big success for Trump I think. It proved he was against all media, even Fox News.


Yeah but then she left for NBC

One of the things she's going to be doing starting soon is a Sunday night newsmagazine show up against 60 Minutes

That's..bold.
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red sox 777
05/19/17 7:57:28 PM
#393:


And it wouldn't have mattered if Bernie didn't run. Then instead of 2 candidates speaking for the working class there would only be 1: Trump.
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MrGreenonion
05/19/17 8:00:59 PM
#394:


Leafeon13N posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Eddv posted...
I legit think Biden would be President right now if his son hadnt died.

I think he would have beaten Trump, but I'm not sure he would have beaten Hillary in the primary
(I would have been very happy with either of them as president, though)


At the very least, Bernie Sanders never becomes a factor if Biden runs. That helps whoever would have been the nominee.

I want to say Biden & Sanders would SFF each other into an easier win for Hillary, but it's possible Biden would have enough of a shine by association from Obama that he could have won outright. Hillary was seen as the "4 more years of Obama" candidate for the most part, but with his actual VP running she probably wouldn't have.
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red sox 777
05/19/17 8:05:23 PM
#395:


To be honest about an uncomfortable reality about the Democratic primary voterbase......in the last 2 elections, one candidate has won the black vote by a very lopsided margin (like 75%+). If the SFF in that voting block is going to be that strong, whoever wins it is almost guaranteed the nomination, because it's a quite large piece of the whole Democratic primary electorate.
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-FFDragon-
05/19/17 8:06:29 PM
#396:


Well we also learned that Democratic primaries don't really mean anything.
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SupremeZero
05/19/17 8:11:59 PM
#397:


https://twitter.com/mulegirl/status/865696101130620928

:V
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GuessMyUserName
05/19/17 8:13:55 PM
#398:


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The Mana Sword
05/19/17 8:18:47 PM
#399:


trump gonna throw kushner out of the plane on the way to SA
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LordoftheMorons
05/19/17 8:24:59 PM
#400:


Think Kushner would flip on Trump to save himself if he really ends up in a lot of shit?

He probably knows more than all of these other stooges (Flynn, Manafort, etc)
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