Poll of the Day > Comey got canned

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This Trump administration is pure entertainment. Something new every week. He's running his Presidency like another season of Celebrity Apprentice.

Doctor Foxx posted...

usui88 posted...

You can call one person in though.

Or at least do something that doesn't lead to this

Technically contractual terminations have to be delivered in writing afaik. The real issue was that the news broke *before* he got the letter.

And, at any rate, it's still better than when CM Punk got his termination papers on his wedding day.
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Zeus posted...

Leading Democrats have been begging for Comey to be fired for months, Trump does it and now CONSPIRACY!

streamofthesky posted...

AwesomeTurtwig posted...

Metro2 posted...

Gee, lots of people being fired in this administration.

I mean, he did campaign with draining the swamp.

Except most of the people he's fired have been "the best people" that he himself brought in when he took office.

Never mind that his slogan is bs and he's loaded the swamp w/ more corporate execs than have ever been in a cabinet and largely just gone after government scientists and other employees who are non-political, middle class, have absolutely no power over the regulations they must abide by and actions they're told to carry out, and serve an entire career, through both R and D administrations.
But yeah, YEE-HAW, drain that swamp!

Except that's still draining the swamp because it's not just Washington insiders and lobbyists, it's mostly outsiders so outside that they have little business being inside.

knivesX2004 posted...

IvoryKeys88 posted...

The witch hunt continues

It's not so much a Witch hunt as it is following evidence.

Given that the strongest evidence so far was that an ambassador met with a Russian official, discussing nothing of importance, and then neglected to reveal the meeting to anybody, it's the least compelling evidence ever. Meanwhile you have people like Hillary and Stein trying to push the fiction that the polling stations were rigged by Russia.

Doctor Foxx posted...

That really is ridiculous. Why can the under investigation party fire the investigator?

First off, the investigation is more than one person so "the investigator" is bogus. Second, there's literally nothing to the investigation in the first place. Third, today that "investigator" essentially admitted to fabricating claims against Hillary Clinton which is a pretty legitimate issue.

Well the timing of it is sort of odd. His biggest blunders were months ago and if anything he should have been fired then not now. I do think he's demonstrated shit professionalism and incompetence. However, now Trump is just going to put a new (possibly compromised) idiot in place or at the very least pick a shit candidate while watch the senate argue over confirming him. In general this firing is in the middle of an investigation that is finally getting some steam. This whole mess is probably going to slow it more than its already near stop pace.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/comey-firing-trump-russia-238192

President Donald Trump weighed firing his FBI director for more than a week. When he finally pulled the trigger Tuesday afternoon, he didn't call James Comey. He sent his longtime private security guard to deliver the termination letter in a manila folder to FBI headquarters.

He had grown enraged by the Russia investigation, two advisers said, frustrated by his inability to control the mushrooming narrative around Russia. He repeatedly asked aides why the Russia investigation wouldn’t disappear and demanded they speak out for him. He would sometimes scream at television clips about the probe, one adviser said.

and

Trump had grown angry with the Russia investigation — particularly Comey admitting in front of the Senate that the FBI was investigating his campaign — and that the FBI director wouldn't support his claims that President Barack Obama had tapped his phones in Trump Tower.

There's a lot of stuff in this article. Worth a read.
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Good
The real question is who's going to replace Comey?
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-Komaiko54- posted...

Good
The real question is who's going to replace Comey?

Jeff Sessions
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Days before he was fired, James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, asked the Justice Department for a significant increase in money and personnel for the bureau’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the presidential election, according to three congressional officials who were briefed on his request.

Mr. Comey asked for the resources last week from Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general who wrote the Justice Department’s memo that was used to justify the firing of Mr. Comey this week, the officials said.

Mr. Comey then briefed members of Congress on the meeting in recent days, telling them about his meeting with Mr. Rosenstein, who is the most senior law enforcement official supervising the Russia investigation... The timing of Mr. Comey’s request is not clear-cut evidence that his firing was related to the Russia investigation. But it is certain to fuel bipartisan criticism that President Trump appeared to be meddling in an investigation that had the potential to damage his presidency.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/us/politics/comey-russia-investigation-fbi.html
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RCtheWSBC posted...

-Komaiko54- posted...

Good
The real question is who's going to replace Comey?

Jeff Sessions

He already recused himself from the investigation
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I'm still waiting for any actual confirmation that Comey really did tell the President that he wasn't being investigated. Our idiot-in-chief is so sensitive that, in the letter stating that Comey was fired, he put that he appreciated that Comey had told him three times that he wasn't being investigated.

There is no evidence that that statement is true, as with many of the thing Donny has said. Even if it were true, it's a very odd thing to put into that letter.

SushiSquid posted...

I'm still waiting for any actual confirmation that Comey really did tell the President that he wasn't being investigated. Our idiot-in-chief is so sensitive that, in the letter stating that Comey was fired, he put that he appreciated that Comey had told him three times that he wasn't being investigated.

Which is absurd for a few reasons

In his letter dismissing Comey, Trump said the FBI director had given him three private assurances that he wasn't under investigation. The White House declined to say when those conversations happened — or why Comey would volunteer such information. It is not the first time Trump has publicly commented on an ongoing investigation — typically a no-no for presidents. He said earlier this month that Comey had done Clinton a favor by letting her off easy.

Today Trump met with the Russian foreign minister behind closed doors, and only allowed Russian state media in. Oh, and Henry Kissinger (Nixon's Sec of State) was there.

He's pulling Nixon shit with Nixon people.
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SushiSquid posted...

I'm still waiting for any actual confirmation that Comey really did tell the President that he wasn't being investigated. Our idiot-in-chief is so sensitive that, in the letter stating that Comey was fired, he put that he appreciated that Comey had told him three times that he wasn't being investigated.

There is no evidence that that statement is true, as with many of the thing Donny has said. Even if it were true, it's a very odd thing to put into that letter.

He's not being directly investigated. It's not an "investigation on trump" it is a counter-intelligence investigation on his campaign and Russia. Which may or may not reveal trump having a witting part in Russia's interference of our election.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/us/politics/comey-russia-investigation-fbi.html

WASHINGTON — Days before he was fired, James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, asked the Justice Department for a significant increase in resources for the bureau’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the presidential election, according to four congressional officials, including Senator Richard J. Durbin.

Mr. Comey briefed members of Congress in recent days, telling them about his meeting with Mr. Rosenstein, who is the most senior law enforcement official supervising the Russia investigation. Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself because of his close ties to the Trump campaign and his undisclosed meetings with the Russian ambassador.

The timing of Mr. Comey’s request is not clear-cut evidence that his firing was related to the Russia investigation. But it is certain to fuel bipartisan criticism that President Trump appeared to be meddling in an investigation that had the potential to damage his presidency.

The F.B.I. declined to comment. But Sarah Isgur Flores, the Justice Department spokeswoman, said “the idea that he asked for more funding” for the Russia investigation was “totally false.” She did not elaborate.
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Girl I posted that hours agooo
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Reports are coming in that Trump might actually beat Hillary in the election.
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RCtheWSBC posted...

Girl I posted that hours agooo

Ffffff darn it sry
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The governments been trying to tie Trump to Russia or find any incriminating evidence on him since he became the Republican presidential candidate long before he entered office.

Despite not being able to find anything in all that time besides "he didn't pay more tax than he legally had to" and "he said grab a girl by her privates" I have high doubts that they were suddenly getting close to discovering the "huge connection" and Trump had to fire him right away.

I'm not claiming Russia is some saint but they've has been the scapegoat of American politics ever since they wouldn't play ball and left the EU, threatening unified global government.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOB9ZIkAhcc

TigerTycoon posted...

The governments been trying to tie Trump to Russia or find any incriminating evidence on him since he became the Republican presidential candidate long before he entered office.

Despite not being able to find anything in all that time besides "he didn't pay more tax than he legally had to" and "he said grab a girl by her privates" I have high doubts that they were suddenly getting close to discovering the "huge connection" and Trump had to fire him right away.

I'm not claiming Russia is some saint but they've has been the scapegoat of American politics ever since they wouldn't play ball and left the EU, threatening unified global government.

There's nothing concrete found... Well other than the myriad of connections that have been made. Now the important part: It has been how many months?

Watergate took years for anything to be revealed and for action to happen. All along the way it was called baseless and fought by the administration. Then it actually broke.

So really it has been barely any time and there are the pile of Grand Jury subpoenas issued with more to come. The investigation should continue and be concluded. It's not up to the party under investigation to decide that the investigation is not warranted. If there's nothing to find there will be nothing to come of it.
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TigerTycoon posted...

The governments been trying to tie Trump to Russia or find any incriminating evidence on him since he became the Republican presidential candidate long before he entered office.

Despite not being able to find anything in all that time besides "he didn't pay more tax than he legally had to" and "he said grab a girl by her privates" I have high doubts that they were suddenly getting close to discovering the "huge connection" and Trump had to fire him right away.

I'm not claiming Russia is some saint but they've has been the scapegoat of American politics ever since they wouldn't play ball and left the EU, threatening unified global government.

Well since you have doubts I guess nothing should be investigated, we should just trust your gut.
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Mead posted...

TigerTycoon posted...

The governments been trying to tie Trump to Russia or find any incriminating evidence on him since he became the Republican presidential candidate long before he entered office.

Despite not being able to find anything in all that time besides "he didn't pay more tax than he legally had to" and "he said grab a girl by her privates" I have high doubts that they were suddenly getting close to discovering the "huge connection" and Trump had to fire him right away.

I'm not claiming Russia is some saint but they've has been the scapegoat of American politics ever since they wouldn't play ball and left the EU, threatening unified global government.

Well since you have doubts I guess nothing should be investigated, we should just trust your gut.

That's not the point, you shouldn't investigate someone because you want them to be guilty, you should do it because there evidence of wrongdoing. Additionally, this is all being done on taxpayer money. You can't endlessly spend resources trying find something that might not be there because you want it to be there.
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Mead posted...

Well since you have doubts I guess nothing should be investigated, we should just trust your gut.

Totally. I mean, Trump says there's no reason to investigate, so we really shouldn't bother

For fun: here's a nice list (and many links) that details the reasons why there is concern that there are Russian ties to the Trump campaign, 2016 election, and current administration

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/6a9pnj/cnn_exclusive_grand_jury_subpoenas_issued_in_fbis/dhdcoss/?st=j2jgwgmb&sh=82ca30c1

Like I knew there were some things people were concerned about... that's a lot more than I had realized.
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TigerTycoon posted...

That's not the point, you shouldn't investigate someone because you want them to be guilty, you should do it because there evidence of wrongdoing. Additionally, this is all being done on taxpayer money. You can't endlessly spend resources trying find something that might not be there because you want it to be there.

Uh taxpayers are paying how much to keep his family secured away from the white house? How much for his weekly getaways? Taxpayer money is a silly excuse to avoid investigation when the administration has no issue with overspending on things that are not necessary.

additionally please suggest that absolutely none of these things are wrongdoing or cause for concern:

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/6a9pnj/cnn_exclusive_grand_jury_subpoenas_issued_in_fbis/dhdcoss/?st=j2jgwgmb&sh=82ca30c1

(wrong link before whoops)
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chaosbowser posted...

Well the timing of it is sort of odd. His biggest blunders were months ago and if anything he should have been fired then not now. I do think he's demonstrated shit professionalism and incompetence. However, now Trump is just going to put a new (possibly compromised) idiot in place or at the very least pick a shit candidate while we watch the senate argue over confirming him. In general this firing is in the middle of an investigation that is finally getting some steam. This whole mess is probably going to slow it more than its already near stop pace.

...the testimony just came out. We didn't know the basis for the re-opened investigation back when he re-opened it. However, since hearing his testimony, there are some questions about his judgment. More importantly, until the new FBI director comes in -- which could take a year given obstruction -- the deputy director will be in charge so there's no real benefit to Trump anyway.

RCtheWSBC posted...

-Komaiko54- posted...

Good
The real question is who's going to replace Comey?

Jeff Sessions

Typically Deputy Directors exist to take over when Directors aren't around, so probably him.

RCtheWSBC posted...

Days before he was fired, James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, asked the Justice Department for a significant increase in money and personnel for the bureau’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the presidential election, according to three congressional officials who were briefed on his request.

And there were a lot of things that Comey was also doing at the time including, among other things, confessing how bad the basis was for his re-opened investigation of Hillary's emails. In general, at any given moment things are happening which doesn't automatically make them more significant by virtue of dismissal especially when you consider that if you did want to bury an investigation you'd do it much sooner than this.

Doctor Foxx posted...

Watergate took years for anything to be revealed and for action to happen. All along the way it was called baseless and fought by the administration. Then it actually broke.

lol, just lol.
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TigerTycoon posted...

Mead posted...

TigerTycoon posted...

The governments been trying to tie Trump to Russia or find any incriminating evidence on him since he became the Republican presidential candidate long before he entered office.

Despite not being able to find anything in all that time besides "he didn't pay more tax than he legally had to" and "he said grab a girl by her privates" I have high doubts that they were suddenly getting close to discovering the "huge connection" and Trump had to fire him right away.

I'm not claiming Russia is some saint but they've has been the scapegoat of American politics ever since they wouldn't play ball and left the EU, threatening unified global government.

Well since you have doubts I guess nothing should be investigated, we should just trust your gut.

That's not the point, you shouldn't investigate someone because you want them to be guilty, you should do it because there evidence of wrongdoing. Additionally, this is all being done on taxpayer money. You can't endlessly spend resources trying find something that might not be there because you want it to be there.

I don't want it to be there. I want an investigation to be done so that the entire country can move on and get things done.
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Mead posted...

I don't want it to be there. I want an investigation to be done so that the entire country can move on and get things done.

That would be nice


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Zeus posted...

And there were a lot of things that Comey was also doing at the time including, among other things, confessing how bad the basis was for his re-opened investigation of Hillary's emails.

Oh please, can we drop the inference that Trump fired Comey for being too hard on Clinton? That's a lie so cartoonishly transparent it is, frankly, an insult to the intelligence of the average American that it was ever floated as a justification at all.
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Trump literally publicly praised Comey for his work on that investigation
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darkknight109 posted...

Zeus posted...

And there were a lot of things that Comey was also doing at the time including, among other things, confessing how bad the basis was for his re-opened investigation of Hillary's emails.

Oh please, can we drop the inference that Trump fired Comey for being too hard on Clinton? That's a lie so cartoonishly transparent it is, frankly, an insult to the intelligence of the average American that it was ever floated as a justification at all.

Mead posted...

Trump literally publicly praised Comey for his work on that investigation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLu81ntoEb0

+ the eye roll

Edit: And petty but Kellyanne you should prolly learn how to pronounce the dude's name.
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So trump and clinton came to a deal then huh. interesting. Maybe they were in on it together to sabotage the republicans?.........>_> *puts on tin foil hat and walks into tin foil room* <_< >_>
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How long until the acting director McCabe is gone?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/05/11/acting_fbi_director_andrew_mccabe_contradicts_white_house.html
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yutterh posted...

So trump and clinton came to a deal then huh. interesting. Maybe they were in on it together to sabotage the republicans?.........>_> *puts on tin foil hat and walks into tin foil room* <_< >_>

I still think he was originally a set up to get Hillary to win, but then Trump realized he had a chance to win himself and broke kayfabe.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-russia-probe-continue-no-white-house-updates-fbi-director-hearing-a7730856.html

The acting head of the FBI has said the agency will continue to investigate alleged links between Russia and Donald Trump's campaign – but will not routinely update the White House.

Andrew McCabe, who assumed leadership of the investigative agency following the firing of James Comey, said the ousting of the former director would not impact the ongoing probe. He also said it had sufficient resources to pursue the investigation.
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/trump-james-comey-nbc/

"I was going to fire Comey," Trump told NBC News' Lester Holt in an interview. "Regardless of the recommendation I was going to fire Comey."

The White House initially said Rosenstein's memorandum to Attorney General Jeff Sessions prompted Trump to fire Comey, but Trump contradicted that account, saying he had already planned to do so and requested a memo to back up his decision.
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Zareth posted...

yutterh posted...

So trump and clinton came to a deal then huh. interesting. Maybe they were in on it together to sabotage the republicans?.........>_> *puts on tin foil hat and walks into tin foil room* <_< >_>

I still think he was originally a set up to get Hillary to win, but then Trump realized he had a chance to win himself and broke kayfabe.

My take during the election was that he was just trying to get a ton of free/low cost publicity (seriously, the amount of tv time he got vs. his campaign expenses is crazy, I don't like him but he knows how to manipulate the media) and never actually thought he could win when he entered.
Then when he realized the Republican field was such an utter cluster fuck that he was the preferred choice, he decided to just go for it because of how great an ego stroke it'd be to actually become president.

I also remember the awkward transition phase Feb-March 2016 timeframe, where he slowly came to the choice to go for it, where for a few weeks he seemed to just be outright sabotaging his own campaign. He wasn't prepared to actually win and tried to sink it. But by then the alternative was Ted freaking Cruz, so even that didn't work and eventually he just went with it, lol.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/comey-may-get-chance-to-publicly-defend-himself-against-trump-1.3412574

Into the mix came Trump, an attention-grabbing leader who, in addition to professing frustration with "this Russia thing," apparently loathed sharing the spotlight with Comey. In explaining the firing, the president told NBC News he considered Comey a "showboat."

Comey declined an invitation to testify at a closed Senate committee hearing Tuesday and it's not clear when he'll speak publicly. But elements of his accounts are emerging.

Comey said that Trump requested that he pledge to the president his loyalty during a January dinner, according to a person close to the former director. Comey offered honesty instead. When Trump then asked for "honest loyalty," Comey told him he would have that, said the Comey associate, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations. The White House has disputed that characterization.

Showboating lol
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