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Claude_Frollo 04/14/17 2:09:12 AM #1: |
You know, as opposed to developing an original pantheon of gods and goddesses?
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Mead 04/14/17 2:23:08 AM #2: |
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AdrammeIech 04/14/17 2:25:02 AM #3: |
I like Zelda lore I wouldn't change anything.
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Zeus 04/14/17 2:25:42 AM #4: |
I don't really remember any Christian lore?
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Claude_Frollo 04/14/17 2:27:56 AM #5: |
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I don't really remember any Christian lore? https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda/images/6/69/Christianity.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/180?cb=20100206235403 Also crosses showing up in the various early games, the bible being an item in the original(hilariously changed to "Spell Book" in the NA version), etc. --- I had a little trouble with the fireplace. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImmortalityV 04/14/17 2:30:48 AM #6: |
(Spoilers for kingdom of heaven in the vid)
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LordBowser 04/14/17 2:31:25 AM #7: |
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Claude_Frollo 04/14/17 2:38:48 AM #8: |
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LordBowser 04/14/17 2:51:00 AM #9: |
Claude_Frollo posted...
http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Christianity I don't doubt that it was influenced by it in some ways, the crosses on the NES Zelda shields attested to that. The thing is, it was never relevant, and outside of this thread I've never seen it discussed in my life. Be honest here, do you really care about this topic? I'll give you my honest opinion. I don't like real-life religions directly placed in fantasy settings, since it makes no sense at all. Indirect references to it are fine, in fact excellent when done well (see Lord of the Rings, for instance); but Zelda is nowhere near deep enough for that -- it's a great game, not a philosophical wonder. As far as I am concerned, it was never directly implied, let alone stated, so it never truly had Christianity in it to begin with. The closest reference was the Sanctuary in Link to the Past, which wasn't even called a "Church". It just was themed after one. --- I am Lord Bowser, King of the Koopas! Bwahaha.. Playing Bowser on Mario Kart, and Noxus on Metroid Prime. I am not a cookie cutter! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PimpMyRhydon 04/14/17 2:52:17 AM #10: |
Zelda should convert to the way of cthulu
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ImmortalityV 04/14/17 12:32:54 PM #11: |
PimpMyRhydon posted...
Zelda should convert to the way of cthulu How about half of Christianity and half of Cthulu? Compromise time! --- -------------------------------------------------- *Proud Social Justice Warrior* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Final Fantasy2389 04/14/17 12:52:59 PM #12: |
No
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RedPixel 04/14/17 12:55:45 PM #13: |
LordBowser posted...
I don't like real-life religions directly placed in fantasy settings, since it makes no sense at all. Indirect references to it are fine, in fact excellent when done well (see Lord of the Rings, for instance); but Zelda is nowhere near deep enough for that -- it's a great game, not a philosophical wonder. Pretty much how I see it, too. I think the idea is quite a stretch, despite slight references early in the series. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deoxxys 04/14/17 12:59:33 PM #14: |
no
I like the goddesses And some large group of non-christians claiming to be protectors of feelings, along with a small minority of Christians would no doubt cry about it. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DorkLink 04/14/17 1:37:47 PM #15: |
Eh, nothing I'd really call strong evidence that they intended to use Christianity. Obviously that's where they got the crosses from, but it could have just been the game depicting its own stand-in for Christianity that wasn't meant to be the same as real-world Christianity. The use of "Bible" could just be a weird literal translation of Japanese, and the word "Bible" is sometimes used for books besides the Holy Bible anyway.
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nurlen 04/14/17 1:42:59 PM #16: |
I think I'd hate the series if they kept it, because they'd expand on it like they did with the story they chose.
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Zeus 04/14/17 2:27:03 PM #17: |
Claude_Frollo posted...
Zeus posted...I don't really remember any Christian lore? A lot of it sounds like silly speculation. Japan is big on secular appropriation of iconography and, within the games themselves, no mention is made to any religion. The alleged crucifix is really the only major arguing point and I don't remember seeing that anywhere. More importantly, the *same game* that supposedly presents the best evidence for this argument is also the one that has a completely alternative take on religion since it introduces the idea of the sacred realm. LordBowser posted... Be honest here, do you really care about this topic? This, pretty much. For a so-called atheist, Carl is pretty obsessed with Christianity. DorkLink posted... Obviously that's where they got the crosses from, but it could have just been the game depicting its own stand-in for Christianity that wasn't meant to be the same as real-world Christianity. Plus it's historical and similar to a lot of other works of fantasy where a downward sword is used as a cross proxy. In the case of shields, a lot of people will draw them with crosses without even knowing that the symbol was meant to be a Christian cross; instead, they just saw it was on the shield. DorkLink posted... The use of "Bible" could just be a weird literal translation of Japanese, and the word "Bible" is sometimes used for books besides the Holy Bible anyway. Oh, plus this. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToastyPOP 04/14/17 2:53:18 PM #18: |
The crescent moon was literally everywhere in Ocarina of Time, so...... I guess Hyrule switched to Islam? lol
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Entity13 04/14/17 3:03:36 PM #19: |
Zeus posted...
DorkLink posted...The use of "Bible" could just be a weird literal translation of Japanese, and the word "Bible" is sometimes used for books besides the Holy Bible anyway. More specifically, it comes from Latin, with "bibliotheca" in general meaning "book." But yeah... --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 04/14/17 3:05:56 PM #20: |
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yourDaddie 04/14/17 3:08:02 PM #21: |
iF you want Christianity play
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Zeus 04/14/17 3:24:42 PM #22: |
Entity13 posted...
Zeus posted...DorkLink posted...The use of "Bible" could just be a weird literal translation of Japanese, and the word "Bible" is sometimes used for books besides the Holy Bible anyway. Which also gave us biblioteca, the Spanish word for library. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 04/14/17 4:17:00 PM #23: |
Zeus posted...
I don't really remember any Christian lore? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b1/6f/2b/b16f2bfd04ad7936d70078680a270c88.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Entity13 04/14/17 4:18:28 PM #24: |
Zeus posted...
Entity13 posted...Zeus posted...DorkLink posted...The use of "Bible" could just be a weird literal translation of Japanese, and the word "Bible" is sometimes used for books besides the Holy Bible anyway. Whoops, my bad. "Bibliotheca" is Latin for library or a collection of books (including an anthology, apparently, when you look at the Bible). Latin words for a book include "liber" and "codex." <_< --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Claude_Frollo 04/14/17 6:33:06 PM #25: |
Sorry guys, but your argument doesn't hold up.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda/images/2/2a/Book_of_Magic.png/revision/latest?cb=20091022144725 Very clearly a bible and not some random book. Unless you really want to argue that it's just some normal book that happens to have a cross on it, but you're not that stupid. Checkmate, atheists. Do your research next time. --- I had a little trouble with the fireplace. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 04/14/17 9:35:41 PM #26: |
Claude_Frollo posted...
Sorry guys, but your argument doesn't hold up. But... I got a bible, and my magic wand still doesn't shoot fire. Clearly the one in Zelda is something else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 04/14/17 9:37:57 PM #27: |
Hey Link go get the Triforce and save Zelda
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Zeus 04/15/17 1:16:46 AM #28: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Zeus posted...I don't really remember any Christian lore? In case you forgot: Zeus posted... In the case of shields, a lot of people will draw them with crosses without even knowing that the symbol was meant to be a Christian cross; instead, they just saw it was on the shield. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 04/15/17 1:17:15 AM #29: |
Claude_Frollo posted...
Sorry guys, but your argument doesn't hold up. Not really a compelling case and, for a so-called atheist, you sure do try to push Christianity on us. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PPPPLAASSUMA 04/15/17 2:18:20 AM #30: |
Are there any fans who missed the nearly imperceptable christian religious tones which were censored to the point you wouldnt notice them in the first place?
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Sarcasthma 04/15/17 2:38:39 AM #31: |
MICHALECOLE posted...
LordBowser posted... Maybe...maybe the image itself is the bait? --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BloodlustSweden 04/16/17 4:12:14 PM #32: |
This was so silly that people are actually talking about the above "This is bait"-picture instead of the original topic, X'D
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CyborgSage00x0 04/16/17 4:14:07 PM #33: |
No, that'd be lame af
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ArvTheGreat 04/16/17 4:28:22 PM #34: |
The CDI games?
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