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3rd_Best_Master 04/10/17 4:09:18 PM #154:	Proudclad's posts read as if he has a massive hard on. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:876927103] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>Proudclad's posts read as if he has a massive hard on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Steve Nick 04/10/17 4:09:50 PM #155:	CruelBuffalo posted... Steve Nick posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Tropicalwood posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Logos posted... i'm convinced that CruelBuffalo has shut his mind to facts and reason and is entirely committed to his narrative. pointless to even argue with him. I said I wasn't an expert nor have I attacked anyone besides you derping around. I'm giving my opinion and discussing it with others. You're the one going guns blazing attacking calling me dumb liberal and such Maybe because you are being dumb. 30 rounds is a standard capacity magazine. If you want to talk about high capacity, you can get ammo belts as long as you have ammo and links. There's nothing you can do to prevent someone from carrying extra ammo but someone reloading gives a higher percentage for intervention You realize a reload takes 3 seconds or less for someone prepared for combat. 3 seconds is a high estimate, considering most experts take about 1 second. Didn't say it's a guarantee but them fumbling around with equipment gives higher chance for intervention which is something that is now taught for mass shooter situations. Fight back during those times. Yeah I mean, if they're just an average person with little experience, it might take them 5 or more seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIDzFiEfh5E Here's a video of a guy doing it in 2 seconds. --- This is my signature. <cite>Steve Nick posted [p:876927140] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Steve Nick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>i'm convinced that CruelBuffalo has shut his mind to facts and reason and is entirely committed to his narrative. pointless to even argue with him.</quote> I said I wasn't an expert nor have I attacked anyone besides you derping around. I'm giving my opinion and discussing it with others. You're the one going guns blazing attacking calling me dumb liberal and such</quote> Maybe because you are being dumb. 30 rounds is a standard capacity magazine. If you want to talk about high capacity, you can get ammo belts as long as you have ammo and links.</quote> There's nothing you can do to prevent someone from carrying extra ammo but someone reloading gives a higher percentage for intervention</quote> You realize a reload takes 3 seconds or less for someone prepared for combat. 3 seconds is a high estimate, considering most experts take about 1 second.</quote> Didn't say it's a guarantee but them fumbling around with equipment gives higher chance for intervention which is something that is now taught for mass shooter situations. Fight back during those times.</quote> Yeah I mean, if they're just an average person with little experience, it might take them 5 or more seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIDzFiEfh5E Here's a video of a guy doing it in 2 seconds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcrasternus 04/10/17 4:10:31 PM #156:	CruelBuffalo posted... Because im not obsessed with them and do not actively use them. You also seem intent on not doing simple research before spouting off. --- http://i.imgtc.com/tUK3LwiHnb.jpg 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 "But not forgotten." <cite>Malcrasternus posted [p:876927181] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote> Because im not obsessed with them and do not actively use them.</quote> You also seem intent on not doing simple research before spouting off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/10/17 4:10:41 PM #157:	spikethedevil posted... So how many more before the US finally gets the point that guns are a problem? Or will you just keep letting this happen again and again and again and again? Switzerland is #4 in firearms per capita, yet has had roughly two mass shootings in the past decade. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/12/17/guns-mass-killings-worldwide/1776191/ http://ijr.com/2015/12/348197-paris-attack-claim-mass-shootings/ It's not the guns that are the problem. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:876927188] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote>So how many more before the US finally gets the point that guns are a problem? Or will you just keep letting this happen again and again and again and again?</quote> Switzerland is #4 in firearms per capita, yet has had roughly two mass shootings in the past decade. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/12/17/guns-mass-killings-worldwide/1776191/ http://ijr.com/2015/12/348197-paris-attack-claim-mass-shootings/ It's not the guns that are the problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 04/10/17 4:11:31 PM #158:	Questionmarktarius posted... spikethedevil posted... So how many more before the US finally gets the point that guns are a problem? Or will you just keep letting this happen again and again and again and again? Switzerland is #4 in firearms per capita, yet has had roughly two mass shootings in the past decade. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/12/17/guns-mass-killings-worldwide/1776191/ It's not the guns that are the problem. this is also true --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:876927249] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote>So how many more before the US finally gets the point that guns are a problem? Or will you just keep letting this happen again and again and again and again?</quote> Switzerland is #4 in firearms per capita, yet has had roughly two mass shootings in the past decade. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/12/17/guns-mass-killings-worldwide/1776191/ It's not the guns that are the problem.</quote> this is also true</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 4:12:01 PM #159:	CruelBuffalo posted... I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon. how about you refrain from making those kinds of judgments while you're typing from the comfort of your armchair? not your life that needed defending. CruelBuffalo posted... Because im not obsessed with them and do not actively use them. you don't need to be obsessed or an active user to know basics. --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876927274] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon. </quote> how about you refrain from making those kinds of judgments while you're typing from the comfort of your armchair? not your life that needed defending. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>Because im not obsessed with them and do not actively use them. </quote> you don't need to be obsessed or an active user to know basics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 04/10/17 4:12:07 PM #160:	CruelBuffalo posted... I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon. Most proponents of magazine limits put it around 7-9 rounds. That's easy to blow through on the first assailant. I don't know how many times the kid shot, how many misses, but it's entirely possible that he blew through 10 shots or more before getting the last person. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:876927283] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon.</quote> Most proponents of magazine limits put it around 7-9 rounds. That's easy to blow through on the first assailant. I don't know how many times the kid shot, how many misses, but it's entirely possible that he blew through 10 shots or more before getting the last person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 4:12:14 PM #161:	3rd_Best_Master posted... Proudclad's posts read as if he has a massive hard on. is this supposed to be some kind of argument? --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876927293] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote>Proudclad's posts read as if he has a massive hard on.</quote> is this supposed to be some kind of argument?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShinyMasamuneZ 04/10/17 4:12:39 PM #162:	Most people are not allowed to own ammo in Switzerland though. --- Currently Playing: Final Fantasy XV, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2 Recently Finished: Assassin's Creed Unity <cite>ShinyMasamuneZ posted [p:876927319] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>Most people are not allowed to own ammo in Switzerland though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/10/17 4:13:26 PM #163:	Malcrasternus posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Because im not obsessed with them and do not actively use them. You also seem intent on not doing simple research before spouting off. Spouting off? Is this an alt? I gave my opinion and said I'm not an expert on it. For me the bigger issue is mandatory training to get firearm and preventing people with mental illness form getting them. Capacity is something I said already that im not an expert on and i would refer back to people in that field. Since I'm not in the field I'm not sure who an unbiased source would be. I didn't say "we have to have a complete shut down on all weapons over 5 bullets in da chamber" Some of you guys gotta learn that a discussion means people's opinions can change. We're talking it out. It doesn't help with people like Proudclad trying to make it out as if the other side is foaming at the mouth to ban guns and put words and/or my intentions as a strawman. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:876927363] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcrasternus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote> Because im not obsessed with them and do not actively use them.</quote> You also seem intent on not doing simple research before spouting off.</quote> Spouting off? Is this an alt? I gave my opinion and said I'm not an expert on it. For me the bigger issue is mandatory training to get firearm and preventing people with mental illness form getting them. Capacity is something I said already that im not an expert on and i would refer back to people in that field. Since I'm not in the field I'm not sure who an unbiased source would be. I didn't say "we have to have a complete shut down on all weapons over 5 bullets in da chamber" Some of you guys gotta learn that a discussion means people's opinions can change. We're talking it out. It doesn't help with people like Proudclad trying to make it out as if the other side is foaming at the mouth to ban guns and put words and/or my intentions as a strawman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShinyMasamuneZ 04/10/17 4:13:55 PM #164:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... CruelBuffalo posted... I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon. Most proponents of magazine limits put it around 7-9 rounds. That's easy to blow through on the first assailant. I don't know how many times the kid shot, how many misses, but it's entirely possible that he blew through 10 shots or more before getting the last person. No way man, he nailed each assailant with only a single bullet and then he reloaded four times in less than 15 seconds just to show off. --- Currently Playing: Final Fantasy XV, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2 Recently Finished: Assassin's Creed Unity <cite>ShinyMasamuneZ posted [p:876927389] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon.</quote> Most proponents of magazine limits put it around 7-9 rounds. That's easy to blow through on the first assailant. I don't know how many times the kid shot, how many misses, but it's entirely possible that he blew through 10 shots or more before getting the last person.</quote> No way man, he nailed each assailant with only a single bullet and then he reloaded four times in less than 15 seconds just to show off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/10/17 4:14:37 PM #165:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... CruelBuffalo posted... I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon. Most proponents of magazine limits put it around 7-9 rounds. That's easy to blow through on the first assailant. I don't know how many times the kid shot, how many misses, but it's entirely possible that he blew through 10 shots or more before getting the last person. And how likely were he criminals going to flee in this situation when shots are fired. Do you think they will view it as worth it to add murder to their burglary charges? <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:876927436] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon.</quote> Most proponents of magazine limits put it around 7-9 rounds. That's easy to blow through on the first assailant. I don't know how many times the kid shot, how many misses, but it's entirely possible that he blew through 10 shots or more before getting the last person.</quote> And how likely were he criminals going to flee in this situation when shots are fired. Do you think they will view it as worth it to add murder to their burglary charges?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 4:15:29 PM #166:	CruelBuffalo posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... CruelBuffalo posted... I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon. Most proponents of magazine limits put it around 7-9 rounds. That's easy to blow through on the first assailant. I don't know how many times the kid shot, how many misses, but it's entirely possible that he blew through 10 shots or more before getting the last person. And how likely were he criminals going to flee in this situation when shots are fired. Do you think they will view it as worth it to add murder to their burglary charges? So you want to leave people trapped because you're under some impression that the criminals are just going to run away rather than try to kill? --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876927503] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon.</quote> Most proponents of magazine limits put it around 7-9 rounds. That's easy to blow through on the first assailant. I don't know how many times the kid shot, how many misses, but it's entirely possible that he blew through 10 shots or more before getting the last person.</quote> And how likely were he criminals going to flee in this situation when shots are fired. Do you think they will view it as worth it to add murder to their burglary charges?</quote> So you want to leave people trapped because you're under some impression that the criminals are just going to run away rather than try to kill?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 04/10/17 4:15:59 PM #167:	San Bernadino sounds familiar. Wasn't there some sort of mass shooting the last year? --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:876927537] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>San Bernadino sounds familiar. Wasn't there some sort of mass shooting the last year?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/10/17 4:16:11 PM #168:	Logos posted... not your life that needed defending. Oh cool advocating my life isn't worth saving and implying I should just be murdered lol cool. And where did I attack the kid? Can you chill the hell out <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:876927545] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>not your life that needed defending.</quote> Oh cool advocating my life isn't worth saving and implying I should just be murdered lol cool. And where did I attack the kid? Can you chill the hell out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 04/10/17 4:18:12 PM #169:	CruelBuffalo posted... Logos posted... not your life that needed defending. Oh cool advocating my life isn't worth saving and implying I should just be murdered lol cool. And where did I attack the kid? Can you chill the hell out surely you arent stupid enough to not understand his post or either english isnt your first language...hopefully the latter --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:876927683] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>not your life that needed defending.</quote> Oh cool advocating my life isn't worth saving and implying I should just be murdered lol cool. And where did I attack the kid? Can you chill the hell out</quote> surely you arent stupid enough to not understand his post or either english isnt your first language...hopefully the latter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 4:19:34 PM #170:	CruelBuffalo posted... Logos posted... not your life that needed defending. Oh cool advocating my life isn't worth saving and implying I should just be murdered lol cool. And where did I attack the kid? Can you chill the hell out dude you're illiterate. i didn't advocate anything like that or say that you should be murdered. i'm done here, you're not worth the time. --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876927767] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote>not your life that needed defending.</quote> Oh cool advocating my life isn't worth saving and implying I should just be murdered lol cool. And where did I attack the kid? Can you chill the hell out</quote> dude you're illiterate. i didn't advocate anything like that or say that you should be murdered. i'm done here, you're not worth the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShinyMasamuneZ 04/10/17 4:19:39 PM #171:	The 'kid' in the story was a 23-year-old who actually shot a bunch of teenagers. He deserves to be able to protect his home regardless, but let's not sugar coat this story. --- Currently Playing: Final Fantasy XV, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2 Recently Finished: Assassin's Creed Unity <cite>ShinyMasamuneZ posted [p:876927779] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>The 'kid' in the story was a 23-year-old who actually shot a bunch of teenagers. He deserves to be able to protect his home regardless, but let's not sugar coat this story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 04/10/17 4:21:54 PM #172:	Side note, how's this compromise? Universal background and mental health checks. Required training (and real standards. Seriously, I only had to hit 11/20 from 7yards on a human sized target to get my ccwp) Taxes on self defense/anti-personnel ammo. (Hollow points.) BUT. . . Nation concealed carry. riflery and firearms education in schools. Subsidized fmj/wadcutter/training rounds. Suppressors off the NFA list. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:876927919] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>Side note, how's this compromise? Universal background and mental health checks. Required training (and real standards. Seriously, I only had to hit 11/20 from 7yards on a human sized target to get my ccwp) Taxes on self defense/anti-personnel ammo. (Hollow points.) BUT. . . Nation concealed carry. riflery and firearms education in schools. Subsidized fmj/wadcutter/training rounds. Suppressors off the NFA list.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/10/17 4:22:53 PM #173:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Suppressors of the NFA list. Just make the tax stamp less of an ordeal, and we're good enough. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:876927974] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Suppressors of the NFA list.</quote> Just make the tax stamp less of an ordeal, and we're good enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/10/17 4:25:58 PM #174:	Logos posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... CruelBuffalo posted... I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon. Most proponents of magazine limits put it around 7-9 rounds. That's easy to blow through on the first assailant. I don't know how many times the kid shot, how many misses, but it's entirely possible that he blew through 10 shots or more before getting the last person. And how likely were he criminals going to flee in this situation when shots are fired. Do you think they will view it as worth it to add murder to their burglary charges? So you want to leave people trapped because you're under some impression that the criminals are just going to run away rather than try to kill? I don't want to sound like I'm defending robbers, but most criminals aren't looking for an excuse to murder. That's not to say I want guns banned, but murder isn't just the next logical step for all criminals. The world is slightly more gray than good law abiding citizens and bloodthirsty animal criminals. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:876928186] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon.</quote> Most proponents of magazine limits put it around 7-9 rounds. That's easy to blow through on the first assailant. I don't know how many times the kid shot, how many misses, but it's entirely possible that he blew through 10 shots or more before getting the last person.</quote> And how likely were he criminals going to flee in this situation when shots are fired. Do you think they will view it as worth it to add murder to their burglary charges?</quote> So you want to leave people trapped because you're under some impression that the criminals are just going to run away rather than try to kill?</quote> I don't want to sound like I'm defending robbers, but most criminals aren't looking for an excuse to murder. That's not to say I want guns banned, but murder isn't just the next logical step for all criminals. The world is slightly more gray than good law abiding citizens and bloodthirsty animal criminals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 04/10/17 4:29:22 PM #175:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Taxes on self defense/anti-personnel ammo. (Hollow points.) Why? --- "If the day does not require an AK, it is good." The Great Warrior Poet, Ice Cube <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:876928388] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Taxes on self defense/anti-personnel ammo. (Hollow points.)</quote> Why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/10/17 4:30:09 PM #176:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Side note, how's this compromise? Universal background and mental health checks. Required training (and real standards. Seriously, I only had to hit 11/20 from 7yards on a human sized target to get my ccwp) Taxes on self defense/anti-personnel ammo. (Hollow points.) BUT. . . Nation concealed carry. riflery and firearms education in schools. Subsidized fmj/wadcutter/training rounds. Suppressors off the NFA list. Depends on what what the education in schools is...and how it would be taught but your list seems like a fair compromise worth a shot at trying <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:876928441] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Side note, how's this compromise? Universal background and mental health checks. Required training (and real standards. Seriously, I only had to hit 11/20 from 7yards on a human sized target to get my ccwp) Taxes on self defense/anti-personnel ammo. (Hollow points.) BUT. . . Nation concealed carry. riflery and firearms education in schools. Subsidized fmj/wadcutter/training rounds. Suppressors off the NFA list.</quote> Depends on what what the education in schools is...and how it would be taught but your list seems like a fair compromise worth a shot at trying</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcrasternus 04/10/17 4:30:16 PM #177:	Mental health checks: Okay, now tell us what exact behaviors are to be screened for, as statistically, people with mental health issues are more often the victim than attacker. Required training: Perfect, I'm in complete agreement. Where's that money gonna come from to build locations, buy land, and hire staff? You think those staunchly against gun ownership will agree to a tax that encourages firearm ownership? Hollow points: Care to tell us exactly why you think this is a good idea? Show your work. --- http://i.imgtc.com/tUK3LwiHnb.jpg 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 "But not forgotten." <cite>Malcrasternus posted [p:876928454] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>Mental health checks: Okay, now tell us what exact behaviors are to be screened for, as statistically, people with mental health issues are more often the victim than attacker. Required training: Perfect, I'm in complete agreement. Where's that money gonna come from to build locations, buy land, and hire staff? You think those staunchly against gun ownership will agree to a tax that encourages firearm ownership? Hollow points: Care to tell us exactly why you think this is a good idea? Show your work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Logos 04/10/17 4:30:53 PM #178:	hockeybub89 posted... I don't want to sound like I'm defending robbers, but most criminals aren't looking for an excuse to murder. That's not to say I want guns banned, but murder isn't just the next logical step for all criminals. The world is slightly more gray than good law abiding citizens and bloodthirsty animal criminals. Move to the south side of Chicago and play these stupid games with your own life, then. --- My biggest flaw is how logical and reasonable I am. - hockeybub89 <cite>Logos posted [p:876928491] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't want to sound like I'm defending robbers, but most criminals aren't looking for an excuse to murder. That's not to say I want guns banned, but murder isn't just the next logical step for all criminals. The world is slightly more gray than good law abiding citizens and bloodthirsty animal criminals. </quote> Move to the south side of Chicago and play these stupid games with your own life, then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/10/17 4:32:11 PM #179:	ShinyMasamuneZ posted... The 'kid' in the story was a 23-year-old who actually shot a bunch of teenagers. He deserves to be able to protect his home regardless, but let's not sugar coat this story. Huehuehue I thought he was a teen...but yeah my opinion is below. Notice how Proudclad kept blowing up at me...dude needs to learn how to talk hockeybub89 posted... Logos posted... CruelBuffalo posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... CruelBuffalo posted... I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon. Most proponents of magazine limits put it around 7-9 rounds. That's easy to blow through on the first assailant. I don't know how many times the kid shot, how many misses, but it's entirely possible that he blew through 10 shots or more before getting the last person. And how likely were he criminals going to flee in this situation when shots are fired. Do you think they will view it as worth it to add murder to their burglary charges? So you want to leave people trapped because you're under some impression that the criminals are just going to run away rather than try to kill? I don't want to sound like I'm defending robbers, but most criminals aren't looking for an excuse to murder. That's not to say I want guns banned, but murder isn't just the next logical step for all criminals. The world is slightly more gray than good law abiding citizens and bloodthirsty animal criminals. This <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:876928579] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShinyMasamuneZ posted...</cite> <quote>The 'kid' in the story was a 23-year-old who actually shot a bunch of teenagers. He deserves to be able to protect his home regardless, but let's not sugar coat this story.</quote> Huehuehue I thought he was a teen...but yeah my opinion is below. Notice how Proudclad kept blowing up at me...dude needs to learn how to talk <cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't say he can't use it. I said he would have likely been fine with weaker firepower...which the original post implied he wouldn't have been safe had not had that specific weapon.</quote> Most proponents of magazine limits put it around 7-9 rounds. That's easy to blow through on the first assailant. I don't know how many times the kid shot, how many misses, but it's entirely possible that he blew through 10 shots or more before getting the last person.</quote> And how likely were he criminals going to flee in this situation when shots are fired. Do you think they will view it as worth it to add murder to their burglary charges?</quote> So you want to leave people trapped because you're under some impression that the criminals are just going to run away rather than try to kill?</quote> I don't want to sound like I'm defending robbers, but most criminals aren't looking for an excuse to murder. That's not to say I want guns banned, but murder isn't just the next logical step for all criminals. The world is slightly more gray than good law abiding citizens and bloodthirsty animal criminals.</quote> This</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 04/10/17 4:33:35 PM #180:	Malcrasternus posted... Mental health checks: Okay, now tell us what exact behaviors are to be screened for, as statistically, people with mental health issues are more often the victim than attacker. Required training: Perfect, I'm in complete agreement. Where's that money gonna come from to build locations, buy land, and hire staff? You think those staunchly against gun ownership will agree to a tax that encourages firearm ownership? Hollow points: Care to tell us exactly why you think this is a good idea? Show your work. He spit balling. He's not your congressman I doubt he has his thesis ready. And the money for the training will come from the requires tax on gun sales. Too bad so sad. They have to pay. It's a fair compromise <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:876928669] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcrasternus posted...</cite> <quote>Mental health checks: Okay, now tell us what exact behaviors are to be screened for, as statistically, people with mental health issues are more often the victim than attacker. Required training: Perfect, I'm in complete agreement. Where's that money gonna come from to build locations, buy land, and hire staff? You think those staunchly against gun ownership will agree to a tax that encourages firearm ownership? Hollow points: Care to tell us exactly why you think this is a good idea? Show your work.</quote> He spit balling. He's not your congressman I doubt he has his thesis ready. And the money for the training will come from the requires tax on gun sales. Too bad so sad. They have to pay. It's a fair compromise</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 04/10/17 4:34:21 PM #181:	scorpion41 posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... "Hey guys we should limit who gets guns and make sure that people with mental health issues don't have the opportunity to have guns." "THEY'RE TAKING OUR GUNS!!!!!" - the right Please explain what that does to address the problem with criminals getting their hands on illegal weapons. I'll save you the trouble: not a damned thing. Most of the big story gun violence is done by people who have mental health issues and should of never been approved to have a gun in the first place. Solving that issues will help lower gun violence. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:876928724] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>"Hey guys we should limit who gets guns and make sure that people with mental health issues don't have the opportunity to have guns." "THEY'RE TAKING OUR GUNS!!!!!" - the right</quote> Please explain what that does to address the problem with criminals getting their hands on illegal weapons. I'll save you the trouble: not a damned thing.</quote> Most of the big story gun violence is done by people who have mental health issues and should of never been approved to have a gun in the first place. Solving that issues will help lower gun violence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 04/10/17 4:35:30 PM #182:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Side note, how's this compromise? Universal background and mental health checks. Required training (and real standards. Seriously, I only had to hit 11/20 from 7yards on a human sized target to get my ccwp) Taxes on self defense/anti-personnel ammo. (Hollow points.) BUT. . . Nation concealed carry. riflery and firearms education in schools. Subsidized fmj/wadcutter/training rounds. Suppressors off the NFA list. So what you're saying is you want to take away mah guns you commie! - the right --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:876928802] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Side note, how's this compromise? Universal background and mental health checks. Required training (and real standards. Seriously, I only had to hit 11/20 from 7yards on a human sized target to get my ccwp) Taxes on self defense/anti-personnel ammo. (Hollow points.) BUT. . . Nation concealed carry. riflery and firearms education in schools. Subsidized fmj/wadcutter/training rounds. Suppressors off the NFA list.</quote> So what you're saying is you want to take away mah guns you commie! - the right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManWithGun 04/10/17 4:36:19 PM #183:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Side note, how's this compromise? Universal background and mental health checks. Required training (and real standards. Seriously, I only had to hit 11/20 from 7yards on a human sized target to get my ccwp) Taxes on self defense/anti-personnel ammo. (Hollow points.) BUT. . . Nation concealed carry. riflery and firearms education in schools. Subsidized fmj/wadcutter/training rounds. Suppressors off the NFA list. And people who already have their ccps are required as well but it's paid for by the gov --- Heeeey <cite>ManWithGun posted [p:876928861] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Side note, how's this compromise? Universal background and mental health checks. Required training (and real standards. Seriously, I only had to hit 11/20 from 7yards on a human sized target to get my ccwp) Taxes on self defense/anti-personnel ammo. (Hollow points.) BUT. . . Nation concealed carry. riflery and firearms education in schools. Subsidized fmj/wadcutter/training rounds. Suppressors off the NFA list.</quote> And people who already have their ccps are required as well but it's paid for by the gov</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/10/17 4:37:29 PM #184:	sktgamer_13dude posted... scorpion41 posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... "Hey guys we should limit who gets guns and make sure that people with mental health issues don't have the opportunity to have guns." "THEY'RE TAKING OUR GUNS!!!!!" - the right Please explain what that does to address the problem with criminals getting their hands on illegal weapons. I'll save you the trouble: not a damned thing. Most of the big story gun violence is done by people who have mental health issues and should of never been approved to have a gun in the first place. Solving that issues will help lower gun violence. Already illegal http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:876928941] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>"Hey guys we should limit who gets guns and make sure that people with mental health issues don't have the opportunity to have guns." "THEY'RE TAKING OUR GUNS!!!!!" - the right</quote> Please explain what that does to address the problem with criminals getting their hands on illegal weapons. I'll save you the trouble: not a damned thing.</quote> Most of the big story gun violence is done by people who have mental health issues and should of never been approved to have a gun in the first place. Solving that issues will help lower gun violence.</quote> Already illegal http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/possession-of-a-firearm-by-the-mentally-ill.aspx</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/10/17 4:37:59 PM #185:	Logos posted... hockeybub89 posted... I don't want to sound like I'm defending robbers, but most criminals aren't looking for an excuse to murder. That's not to say I want guns banned, but murder isn't just the next logical step for all criminals. The world is slightly more gray than good law abiding citizens and bloodthirsty animal criminals. Move to the south side of Chicago and play these stupid games with your own life, then. I'm playing the game of life. Try joining in. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:876928976] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Logos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't want to sound like I'm defending robbers, but most criminals aren't looking for an excuse to murder. That's not to say I want guns banned, but murder isn't just the next logical step for all criminals. The world is slightly more gray than good law abiding citizens and bloodthirsty animal criminals. </quote> Move to the south side of Chicago and play these stupid games with your own life, then.</quote> I'm playing the game of life. Try joining in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drasilor 04/10/17 4:38:04 PM #186:	Oh great another gun debate --- #mypresidentistrump <cite>Drasilor posted [p:876928984] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>Oh great another gun debate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 04/10/17 4:40:01 PM #187:	Malcrasternus posted... Hollow points: Care to tell us exactly why you think this is a good idea? Show your work. Well, this . . . CruelBuffalo posted... He spit balling. Also, people outside of the hobby don't really care or know, and are just going to shoot cheap shit. I doubt that many bangers only leave the house with bonded jacketed +p hollow points and refuse to carry tul. lol I'd rather stupid people that are committing murder stick to the cheaper, less lethal stuff. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:876929127] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcrasternus posted...</cite> <quote>Hollow points: Care to tell us exactly why you think this is a good idea? Show your work.</quote> Well, this . . . <cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote>He spit balling.</quote> Also, people outside of the hobby don't really care or know, and are just going to shoot cheap shit. I doubt that many bangers only leave the house with bonded jacketed +p hollow points and refuse to carry tul. lol I'd rather stupid people that are committing murder stick to the cheaper, less lethal stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/10/17 4:43:10 PM #188:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... I'd rather stupid people that are committing murder stick to the cheaper, less lethal stuff. Like, what, trucks? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:876929327] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>I'd rather stupid people that are committing murder stick to the cheaper, less lethal stuff.</quote> Like, what, trucks?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreatEvilEmpire 04/10/17 4:51:53 PM #189:	Sounds like a love triangle/cheating/affair situation. --- Sig under construction! <cite>GreatEvilEmpire posted [p:876929886] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like a love triangle/cheating/affair situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 04/10/17 4:54:55 PM #190:	sktgamer_13dude posted... scorpion41 posted... sktgamer_13dude posted... "Hey guys we should limit who gets guns and make sure that people with mental health issues don't have the opportunity to have guns." "THEY'RE TAKING OUR GUNS!!!!!" - the right Please explain what that does to address the problem with criminals getting their hands on illegal weapons. I'll save you the trouble: not a damned thing. Most of the big story gun violence is done by people who have mental health issues and should of never been approved to have a gun in the first place. Solving that issues will help lower gun violence. You should do yourself a favor and stop talking. What you are suggesting, which is already done, it's something designed to catch less than 1/10 of all gun owners. You haven't even begun to scratch the surface of the root cause of most gun violence: criminal activity. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Devil May Cry HD collection <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:876930102] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>"Hey guys we should limit who gets guns and make sure that people with mental health issues don't have the opportunity to have guns." "THEY'RE TAKING OUR GUNS!!!!!" - the right</quote> Please explain what that does to address the problem with criminals getting their hands on illegal weapons. I'll save you the trouble: not a damned thing.</quote> Most of the big story gun violence is done by people who have mental health issues and should of never been approved to have a gun in the first place. Solving that issues will help lower gun violence.</quote> You should do yourself a favor and stop talking. What you are suggesting, which is already done, it's something designed to catch less than 1/10 of all gun owners. You haven't even begun to scratch the surface of the root cause of most gun violence: criminal activity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/10/17 4:58:01 PM #191:	At some point, whether you're pro or anti gun laws, Americans have to address the elephant in the room that their gun crime and massacres is not shared by the rest of the world, especially the developed world, even compared to both countries with strict gun laws and ones with loose gun laws. What the US is doing isn't working. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. http://i.imgur.com/45yVrRr.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:876930312] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>At some point, whether you're pro or anti gun laws, Americans have to address the elephant in the room that their gun crime and massacres is not shared by the rest of the world, especially the developed world, even compared to both countries with strict gun laws and ones with loose gun laws. What the US is doing isn't working.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EternalDivide 04/10/17 5:00:24 PM #192:	Wow. It's not even in the bad part of San Bernardino. The last time things went down in that city it was those terrorists that got gunned down literally right in front of my great aunt's house. This is way up to the north of the city by where a lot of those homes burned in that huge fire from like 2003. For anyone that even knows what I'm talking about. I'm just filled with pointless info. --- FFVII Remake: A disaster in the making. I'll laugh at whatever I find funny whether you like it or not. <cite>EternalDivide posted [p:876930467] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>Wow. It's not even in the bad part of San Bernardino. The last time things went down in that city it was those terrorists that got gunned down literally right in front of my great aunt's house. This is way up to the north of the city by where a lot of those homes burned in that huge fire from like 2003. For anyone that even knows what I'm talking about. I'm just filled with pointless info.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 04/10/17 5:01:34 PM #193:	spikethedevil posted... So how many more before the US finally gets the point that guns are a problem? Or will you just keep letting this happen again and again and again and again? never. us attitude is that guns arent the issue banning guns isnt gonna help. legalizing murder will solve the issue by their logic. --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:876930540] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote>So how many more before the US finally gets the point that guns are a problem? Or will you just keep letting this happen again and again and again and again?</quote> never. us attitude is that guns arent the issue banning guns isnt gonna help. legalizing murder will solve the issue by their logic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/10/17 5:03:26 PM #194:	ModLogic posted... spikethedevil posted... So how many more before the US finally gets the point that guns are a problem? Or will you just keep letting this happen again and again and again and again? never. us attitude is that guns arent the issue banning guns isnt gonna help. legalizing murder will solve the issue by their logic. You really think if the US banned guns tomorrow that would work? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. http://i.imgur.com/45yVrRr.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:876930651] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>ModLogic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote>So how many more before the US finally gets the point that guns are a problem? Or will you just keep letting this happen again and again and again and again?</quote> never. us attitude is that guns arent the issue banning guns isnt gonna help. legalizing murder will solve the issue by their logic.</quote> You really think if the US banned guns tomorrow that would work?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 04/10/17 5:04:19 PM #195:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... I'd rather stupid people that are committing murder stick to the cheaper, less lethal stuff. One of the most prominent anti-gun campaigns was started by James Brady, getting shot in the head with some of the cheapest ammo on the market. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:876930708] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>I'd rather stupid people that are committing murder stick to the cheaper, less lethal stuff.</quote> One of the most prominent anti-gun campaigns was started by James Brady, getting shot in the head with some of the cheapest ammo on the market.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShinyMasamuneZ 04/10/17 5:04:53 PM #196:	My favorite is "criminals will easily get guns anyway!" as if the black market were just between the Hardees and Walmart on Main. --- Currently Playing: Final Fantasy XV, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2 Recently Finished: Assassin's Creed Unity <cite>ShinyMasamuneZ posted [p:876930750] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>My favorite is "criminals will easily get guns anyway!" as if the black market were just between the Hardees and Walmart on Main.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 04/10/17 5:06:16 PM #197:	ShinyMasamuneZ posted... My favorite is "criminals will easily get guns anyway!" as if the black market were just between the Hardees and Walmart on Main. That's just dumb. It's between the In-and-Out and Kmart, on 3rd. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:876930841] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShinyMasamuneZ posted...</cite> <quote>My favorite is "criminals will easily get guns anyway!" as if the black market were just between the Hardees and Walmart on Main.</quote> That's just dumb. It's between the In-and-Out and Kmart, on 3rd.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 04/10/17 5:16:36 PM #198:	11 out of 20 on a human sized target at 7 yards sounds very easy. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:876931560] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>11 out of 20 on a human sized target at 7 yards sounds very easy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 04/10/17 5:30:29 PM #199:	Tropicalwood posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... I'd rather stupid people that are committing murder stick to the cheaper, less lethal stuff. One of the most prominent anti-gun campaigns was started by James Brady, getting shot in the head with some of the cheapest ammo on the market. So? Averages not anecdotes concern me. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:876932385] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>I'd rather stupid people that are committing murder stick to the cheaper, less lethal stuff.</quote> One of the most prominent anti-gun campaigns was started by James Brady, getting shot in the head with some of the cheapest ammo on the market.</quote> So? Averages not anecdotes concern me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 04/10/17 6:32:06 PM #200:	UnfairRepresent posted... At some point, whether you're pro or anti gun laws, Americans have to address the elephant in the room that their gun crime and massacres is not shared by the rest of the world, especially the developed world, even compared to both countries with strict gun laws and ones with loose gun laws. What the US is doing isn't working. Never gonna happen. We've decided as a culture that the unyielding defense of the 2nd Amendment is more important than protecting the lives of even school children. Which is fine I suppose. I just wish people would stop pretending that it's anything other than that. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:876936424] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>At some point, whether you're pro or anti gun laws, Americans have to address the elephant in the room that their gun crime and massacres is not shared by the rest of the world, especially the developed world, even compared to both countries with strict gun laws and ones with loose gun laws. What the US is doing isn't working.</quote> Never gonna happen. We've decided as a culture that the unyielding defense of the 2nd Amendment is more important than protecting the lives of even school children. Which is fine I suppose. I just wish people would stop pretending that it's anything other than that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Returning_CEmen 04/10/17 6:45:19 PM #202:	Another San Bernardino shooting. Literally the worst county in California by far. --- http://i.imgtc.com/BOhYeOg.jpg <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:876937149] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>Another San Bernardino shooting. Literally the worst county in California by far.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JohnLennon6 04/10/17 6:46:51 PM #203:	Not surprised that liberals are once again trolling a tragedy. <cite>JohnLennon6 posted [p:876937253] in Breaking: ... [t:75221403]...</cite> <quote>Not surprised that liberals are once again trolling a tragedy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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