Current Events > White man sings a song. Song contains N-word.If white man says it, is he racist?

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anonymous46773
04/04/17 1:33:37 PM
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Is he?


Or should he awkwardly mumble his way through it so he's not seen as racist?

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gguirao
04/04/17 1:52:53 PM
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Not necessarily.
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Blackstar110
04/04/17 1:55:23 PM
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Racist, no, but probably a little insensitive if you're around black people.

Comfort of your own home, go nuts.
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MrK3V
04/04/17 1:56:08 PM
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No

Words are words. Are you gonna put one word on a pedestal over the other?
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Adzeta_
04/04/17 1:56:43 PM
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No. If it's in the lyrics, I'm saying it.
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MrK3V
04/04/17 1:57:22 PM
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I mean shit there's a song a dude asked me the name of, and it's called "all my n****s" by e40

Wonder how many people would censor the name when telling them lol
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Xelltrix
04/04/17 1:57:26 PM
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He could be racist, him singing song lyrics don't make him one though.
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Gamer99z
04/04/17 1:58:35 PM
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Everything is racist.
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JlM
04/04/17 1:58:46 PM
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I mean, if it's David Allen Coe...probably?
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FroMan
04/04/17 2:00:45 PM
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Have a word that you are not allowed to speak out loud due to the color of your skin would be racists.
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UnfairRepresent
04/04/17 2:01:16 PM
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Adzeta_ posted...
No. If it's in the lyrics, I'm saying it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2xox3iAlXw

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eston
04/04/17 2:01:27 PM
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Doesn't automatically make him racist, but if he's singing the song in public he should probably come up with an alternate word or something. That's what my friend who is big into karaoke does
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anonymous46773
04/04/17 2:03:54 PM
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Blackstar110 posted...
Racist, no, but probably a little insensitive if you're around black people.

Comfort of your own home, go nuts.

This is pretty much how I feel.

Doesn't automatically make him racist, but if he's singing the song in public he should probably come up with an alternate word or something. That's what my friend who is big into karaoke does

I mean, what alternative word would you suggest using? Brotha, I guess?
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anonymous46773
04/04/17 2:04:17 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Adzeta_ posted...
No. If it's in the lyrics, I'm saying it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2xox3iAlXw

O_o
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eston
04/04/17 2:06:15 PM
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I mean, what alternative word would you suggest using? Brotha, I guess?

Depends on the song and what fits best. He sings songs he knows, so there is ample time to come up with something ahead of time
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Giant_Aspirin
04/04/17 2:11:01 PM
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eston posted...
Doesn't automatically make him racist, but if he's singing the song in public he should probably come up with an alternate word or something. That's what my friend who is big into karaoke does


yeah just say "my ninja" instead and you'll be good to go
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lilORANG
04/04/17 2:11:39 PM
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depends on the song. like that frat boy song that got those peeps expelled, racist. if you're singing along to the weeknd, not racist. dude shouldn't make such catchy music.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/04/17 2:12:56 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
eston posted...
Doesn't automatically make him racist, but if he's singing the song in public he should probably come up with an alternate word or something. That's what my friend who is big into karaoke does


yeah just say "my ninja" instead and you'll be good to go


Woah isn't that a little insensitive to Japanese?


Also, changing the words in an artistic creation is shady.
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ShinigamiSoul
04/04/17 2:14:04 PM
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MrK3V posted...
No

Words are words. Are you gonna put one word on a pedestal over the other?

Words contain power. The right words could claw at your mind for years.
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BeantownHero
04/04/17 2:16:23 PM
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Not racist, but unacceptable
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DoomtheGrav
04/04/17 2:20:43 PM
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It's insensitive if you're around black people you don't know.
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ZCheveyo
04/04/17 2:21:13 PM
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DoomtheGrav posted...
It's insensitive if you're around black people you don't know.

No it isn't.
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DoomtheGrav
04/04/17 2:22:09 PM
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ZCheveyo posted...
DoomtheGrav posted...
It's insensitive if you're around black people you don't know.

No it isn't.


It most certainly is... I take it you're white and from South Dakota or something? Lmao
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gatorsPENSbucs
04/04/17 2:22:47 PM
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DoomtheGrav posted...
ZCheveyo posted...
DoomtheGrav posted...
It's insensitive if you're around black people you don't know.

No it isn't.


It most certainly is... I take it you're white and from South Dakota or something? Lmao

Why is that funny? If I said I bet you're black and from Africa, would that be funny?
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DifferentialEquation
04/04/17 2:23:31 PM
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Chris Rock said it's okay.
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BeantownHero
04/04/17 2:24:19 PM
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ZCheveyo posted...
DoomtheGrav posted...
It's insensitive if you're around black people you don't know.

No it isn't.


This guy has no black friends :(
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ZCheveyo
04/04/17 2:25:31 PM
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DoomtheGrav posted...
It most certainly is...

It isn't any more insensitive for the person in question to sing that word in a song than it was for the artist to put that word in the song.

I am against anyone saying the word at all, but to claim it's insensitive for one group of people to sing it the way it was written just because they aren't black is stupid.
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ZCheveyo
04/04/17 2:25:59 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
This guy has no black friends :(

I have a black wife and a mixed son. Literally half of my extended family is black....
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dave_is_slick
04/04/17 2:26:45 PM
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It's just a word.
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AzurexNightmare
04/04/17 2:27:09 PM
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I can't believe that people want to talk about racism on here every single day.

Every. Day.
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Krow_Incarnate
04/04/17 2:28:54 PM
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Depends on the context.

Regardless, you can't draw boundary lines in the dictionary.

Don't want someone to repeat something? Don't say it in the first place.
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gatorsPENSbucs
04/04/17 2:31:53 PM
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ZCheveyo posted...
BeantownHero posted...
This guy has no black friends :(

I have a black wife and a mixed son. Literally half of my extended family is black....

Sooooo no black friends?
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Haldol
04/04/17 2:42:11 PM
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ZCheveyo posted...
BeantownHero posted...
This guy has no black friends :(

I have a black wife and a mixed son. Literally half of my extended family is black....

So totally not racist giys!!!
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apocalyptic_4
04/04/17 2:58:37 PM
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The word isn't racist unless you use it in a derogatory way.

Some black people don't like to hear others use it regardless. Best not to unless around friends.
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EggplantParm
04/04/17 3:00:09 PM
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Haldol posted...
ZCheveyo posted...
BeantownHero posted...
This guy has no black friends :(

I have a black wife and a mixed son. Literally half of my extended family is black....

So totally not racist giys!!!


...what has he said that was even remotely racist?
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Unsugarized_Foo
04/04/17 3:02:45 PM
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Am I armed and able to deflect a folding chair?
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CowboyDan
04/04/17 3:02:46 PM
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Nah, I sing Woman is the N***** of the World at karaoke all the time
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ZCheveyo
04/04/17 3:19:04 PM
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EggplantParm posted...
...what has he said that was even remotely racist?

I didn't immediately condemn the white man for singing the song the way it was written.
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EggplantParm
04/04/17 3:27:51 PM
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ZCheveyo posted...
EggplantParm posted...
...what has he said that was even remotely racist?

I didn't immediately condemn the white man for singing the song the way it was written.


Pretty much. But I'd love to see his response.
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Kineth
04/04/17 3:32:30 PM
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It ALWAYS depends on how the word is said. Is it said with extra emphasis, said with the -er instead of the -a? Wouldn't be cool, at the very least.
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thompsontalker7
04/04/17 3:33:39 PM
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Eminem did this a lot with Dr. Dre songs and people only seemed to have mild interest with it
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Mal_Fet
04/04/17 3:34:02 PM
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Trick question. He's white, therefore he's racist no matter what.
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ManBeast462
04/04/17 3:34:37 PM
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No, though it is hypocritical and idiotic for black people to use the n-word.
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04/04/17 3:36:19 PM
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The Great Muta 22
04/04/17 3:39:28 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Eminem did this a lot with Dr. Dre songs and people only seemed to have mild interest with it


I thought this was like, notoriously known to be the other way around? That he said it once before way early in his career and it came back to bite him later in the ass? Don't matter to me either way, just have heard different before.

And I really don't sing along with songs much at all, so nah, I don't do it. I personally think no one should use it, and it's a tad bit hypocritical if someone has an issue with it but will say it in a song, but this topic is tiring to have every week or so.
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AzurexNightmare
04/04/17 3:45:11 PM
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hockeybub89
04/04/17 3:47:18 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
And I really don't sing along with songs much at all, so nah, I don't do it. I personally think no one should use it, and it's a tad bit hypocritical if someone has an issue with it but will say it in a song, but this topic is tiring to have every week or so.

I also don't like that F-word that is a gay slur, but I'll be damned if I censor myself singing along to Money for Nothing. Saying words like that is only hypocritical in certain contexts. If I say I hate homophobia or racism and sing along to songs that are blatant hate, then I would be a hypocrite.
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thompsontalker7
04/04/17 3:48:32 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Eminem did this a lot with Dr. Dre songs and people only seemed to have mild interest with it


I thought this was like, notoriously known to be the other way around? That he said it once before way early in his career and it came back to bite him later in the ass? Don't matter to me either way, just have heard different before.

And I really don't sing along with songs much at all, so nah, I don't do it. I personally think no one should use it, and it's a tad bit hypocritical if someone has an issue with it but will say it in a song, but this topic is tiring to have every week or so.


His older songs were driven by misogynism brought on by his black ex, but he didn't go full on redneck on any of them either
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Anteaterking
04/04/17 3:49:46 PM
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It gets a little weird when white people pick songs that maximize the number of n-words at karaoke and make sure to pause and emphasize each one.
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