Current Events > Yooka-Laylee reviews are coming in

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Links to each platforms Metacritic page to see all the reviews:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/yooka-laylee/critic-reviews
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/yooka-laylee
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/yooka-laylee

Seems like the general consensus is that it's a polished collectathon 3D platformer but it doesn't do much of anything new to push the genre forward.
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FightingGames posted...

JUST

What?
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dead genre should have stayed dead
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gotta get in those jontron protest scores
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inb4 paid reviews and/or low scores cause of jontron defense
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Yeah I'd wait a bit.

The sorts of folks who would obsessively defend JonTron for the comments he made are also the sorts of folks who would flood negative reviews of a game that "wronged" him.
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Swagnificent119 posted...

dead genre should have stayed dead

Piss off
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The "negative" reviews don't even say much of anything bad. Did people really want Yooka-Laylee to be some new innovative attempt at a 3D platformer? Or was the entire purpose of this Kickstarter to bring back a classic style of game people loved. Seems like the "negative" remarks about it being stuck in the past are positives for people who were passionate about this game coming out.
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Collectathons are mediocre? You don't say

Looks like scrapping JonTron didn't save the game.

lol
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I'm not surprised. This is supposed to be a spiritual successor to the Banjo Kazooie series which were terrible games to begin with. I wasn't expecting great reviews.
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God's gift to gamers has blessed us with his opinion on the game: http://www.thejimquisition.com/yooka-laylee-review/
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Burt_Macklin posted...

The "negative" reviews don't even say much of anything bad. Did people really want Yooka-Laylee to be some new innovative attempt at a 3D platformer? Or was the entire purpose of this Kickstarter to bring back a classic style of game people loved. Seems like the "negative" remarks about it being stuck in the past are positives for people who were passionate about this game coming out.

Score is basically what people should have expected, collect-a-thons have not aged well. They're just not very fun by comparison.
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Frostshock posted...

Burt_Macklin posted...

The "negative" reviews don't even say much of anything bad. Did people really want Yooka-Laylee to be some new innovative attempt at a 3D platformer? Or was the entire purpose of this Kickstarter to bring back a classic style of game people loved. Seems like the "negative" remarks about it being stuck in the past are positives for people who were passionate about this game coming out.

Score is basically what people should have expected, collect-a-thons have not aged well. They're just not very fun by comparison.

I enjoy them. That's why I backed the project.
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Burt_Macklin posted...

but it doesn't do much of anything new to push the genre forward.

I think in this case, this is a good thing. This is definitely a "remember when" kind of game. Yooka-Laylee 2 can worry about that.
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I called a 77 MC before, let's see how this pans out...
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now everyone can finally understand why Microsoft killed off banjo kazooie

the people that wanted it should be happy with it and that's all that should matter, but i'm sure we'll see people going nuts because mainstream reviewers didn't like a throwback game.
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Doom_Art posted...

Yeah I'd wait a bit.

The sorts of folks who would obsessively defend JonTron for the comments he made are also the sorts of folks who would flood negative reviews of a game that "wronged" him.

Can you look into the peeps who have posted reviews thus far to see if there's any accuracy to this?
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Yeah, if anything, not trying so hard to be innovative is a positive. Especially in the current market, where "innovation" often just means "open world garbage".
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I thought the game was going to be $20.
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All these sites must be seeing significant traffic right now. can't seem to get anything to load. Oh well. I'll see later I guess.
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vashmoto posted...

Doom_Art posted...

Yeah I'd wait a bit.

The sorts of folks who would obsessively defend JonTron for the comments he made are also the sorts of folks who would flood negative reviews of a game that "wronged" him.

Can you look into the peeps who have posted reviews thus far to see if there's any accuracy to this?

It's Doom_Art. Clearly it's an alt right conspiracy and we'll never see him again after he proclaims it as such.
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Wasn't this game supposed to be a callback to old school platformers? People are really complaining that it's not pushing it forward? Like wtf it's the first one in like 10 years stfu
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I knew the game wasn't gonna review very well

reviewers have too much of a hard on for generic shooters or action RPGs
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darkprince45 posted...

Wasn't this game supposed to be a callback to old school platformers? People are really complaining that it's not pushing it forward? Like wtf it's the first one in like 10 years stfu

I skimmed the Jim review and he doesn't like it because it "absolutely nailed the creation of a late 90s 3D mascot platformer", which is specifically why I'm looking forward to it. The game is not for people like him.
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FroMan posted...

God's gift to gamers has blessed us with his opinion on the game: http://www.thejimquisition.com/yooka-laylee-review/

Wow, MN9 beat it by two points? I think Jim's written reviews are decent enough, his criticism is founded most of the time (although exaggerated), but I'm not sure he understands how numerical scoring works.
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DifferentialEquation posted...

I'm not surprised. This is supposed to be a spiritual successor to the Banjo Kazooie series which were terrible games to begin with. I wasn't expecting great reviews.

Now thats what i call an awful opinion
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lol Jim Sterling giving a low score to drive up that site traffic again.
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Megaman50100 posted...

FroMan posted...

God's gift to gamers has blessed us with his opinion on the game: http://www.thejimquisition.com/yooka-laylee-review/

Wow, MN9 beat it by two points? I think Jim's written reviews are decent enough, his criticism is founded most of the time (although exaggerated), but I'm not sure he understands how numerical scoring works.

Most of the reviews for MN9 stated that it wasn't a bad game so much as it was painfully mediocre.
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Well here's to hoping A Hat in Time is better
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going to get it, just not at full price.
i can wait.
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

lol Jim Sterling giving a low score to drive up that site traffic again.

Jim is fully funded by patreon and thus doesn't monetize his content. He receives no monetary benefit from traffic to his site.
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FroMan posted...

D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

lol Jim Sterling giving a low score to drive up that site traffic again.

Jim is fully funded by patreon and thus doesn't monetize his content. He receives no monetary benefit from traffic to his site.

that's the joke. it's what everyone was saying when he gave BotW a low review IIRC
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l Dudeboy l posted...

darkprince45 posted...

Wasn't this game supposed to be a callback to old school platformers? People are really complaining that it's not pushing it forward? Like wtf it's the first one in like 10 years stfu

I skimmed the Jim review and he doesn't like it because it "absolutely nailed the creation of a late 90s 3D mascot platformer", which is specifically why I'm looking forward to it. The game is not for people like him.

That's really not what his review said. He states that he likes those kind of games (and even backed the Kickstarter). The problem is that the game has many of the problems early 3D platformers had; such as bad camera, sloppy controls, et cetera. He also mentions that the levels/world design isn't good. (These are his opinions, not my own. I haven't played it).
However, the 2/10 he scored it is clearly just him being his spiteful, attention-seeking self lol.
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If you read the reviews they're all just complaining it's not modern enough. Uh, yeah, that's the whole fucking point

Polygon's review specifically calls out that there isn't a mini-map lmao

Fuck off reviewers, this sounds like the Banjo spiritual sequel we've been waiting for
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seriously guys, if this mediocrity and blandness is somehow what you were expecting from your dream banjo game, it's ridiculous that you're somehow surprised that critics would tear it apart

Blue_Dream87 posted...

Well here's to hoping A Hat in Time is better

If it ever cones out
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Just because your game is going for a retro feel you don't have to include all the pratfalls that plagued the retro games you are emulating. You goal when making a retro game should be to take all that we loved about the old genre and make it fresh again by introducing all the innovations that have came since.

If Yooka-Laylee had a responsive camera, tighter controls, and more inspired level design no one would be complaining that it wasn't Banjo-Kazooie enough.
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FroMan posted...

Just because your game is going for a retro feel you don't have to include all the pratfalls that plagued the retro games you are emulating. You goal when making a retro game should be to take all that we loved about the old genre and make it fresh again by introducing all the innovations that have came since.

If Yooka-Laylee had a responsive camera, tighter controls, and more inspired level design no one would be complaining that it wasn't Banjo-Kazooie enough.

By the time this genre died out, reviewers were calling the core gameplay the inherent problem.

You can't make a retro 3D collectathon platformers without including the main pratfall (in reviewers eyes) of genre: collecting lots of shit
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Burt_Macklin posted...

Seems like the general consensus is that it's a polished collectathon 3D platformer but it doesn't do much of anything new to push the genre forward.

I'm fine with this since there hasn't been much of the genre at all recently
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I just saw the review for polygon, some lady's first review by going on her twitter. She looks annoying af

And a 2/10 is complete attention whoring bs. For the art and visuals alone a game like that should be a 5-6. 2s are seriously for the alien colonial marines and ride to hells
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SSJCAT posted...

l Dudeboy l posted...

darkprince45 posted...

Wasn't this game supposed to be a callback to old school platformers? People are really complaining that it's not pushing it forward? Like wtf it's the first one in like 10 years stfu

I skimmed the Jim review and he doesn't like it because it "absolutely nailed the creation of a late 90s 3D mascot platformer", which is specifically why I'm looking forward to it. The game is not for people like him.

That's really not what his review said. He states that he likes those kind of games (and even backed the Kickstarter). The problem is that the game has many of the problems early 3D platformers had; such as bad camera, sloppy controls, et cetera. He also mentions that the levels/world design isn't good. (These are his opinions, not my own. I haven't played it).
However, the 2/10 he scored it is clearly just him being his spiteful, attention-seeking self lol.

The quote I used directly from his review.
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FroMan posted...

Just because your game is going for a retro feel you don't have to include all the pratfalls that plagued the retro games you are emulating. You goal when making a retro game should be to take all that we loved about the old genre and make it fresh again by introducing all the innovations that have came since.

I don't want an adventure game plagued with dlc, microtransactions and multiplayer modes, thanks.
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l Dudeboy l posted...

SSJCAT posted...

l Dudeboy l posted...

darkprince45 posted...

Wasn't this game supposed to be a callback to old school platformers? People are really complaining that it's not pushing it forward? Like wtf it's the first one in like 10 years stfu

I skimmed the Jim review and he doesn't like it because it "absolutely nailed the creation of a late 90s 3D mascot platformer", which is specifically why I'm looking forward to it. The game is not for people like him.

That's really not what his review said. He states that he likes those kind of games (and even backed the Kickstarter). The problem is that the game has many of the problems early 3D platformers had; such as bad camera, sloppy controls, et cetera. He also mentions that the levels/world design isn't good. (These are his opinions, not my own. I haven't played it).
However, the 2/10 he scored it is clearly just him being his spiteful, attention-seeking self lol.

The quote I used directly from his review.

My point is that you missed the point of that quote.
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TheGoldenEel posted...

FroMan posted...

Just because your game is going for a retro feel you don't have to include all the pratfalls that plagued the retro games you are emulating. You goal when making a retro game should be to take all that we loved about the old genre and make it fresh again by introducing all the innovations that have came since.

If Yooka-Laylee had a responsive camera, tighter controls, and more inspired level design no one would be complaining that it wasn't Banjo-Kazooie enough.

By the time this genre died out, reviewers were calling the core gameplay the inherent problem.

You can't make a retro 3D collectathon platformers without including the main pratfall (in reviewers eyes) of genre: which is collecting lots of shit

I've read a few reviews for the game, and the problem doesn't seem to be that people are annoyed at collecting shit, the problems stem from the flawed mechanics that make collecting said shit painful in execution.

l Dudeboy l posted...

SSJCAT posted...

l Dudeboy l posted...

darkprince45 posted...

Wasn't this game supposed to be a callback to old school platformers? People are really complaining that it's not pushing it forward? Like wtf it's the first one in like 10 years stfu

I skimmed the Jim review and he doesn't like it because it "absolutely nailed the creation of a late 90s 3D mascot platformer", which is specifically why I'm looking forward to it. The game is not for people like him.

That's really not what his review said. He states that he likes those kind of games (and even backed the Kickstarter). The problem is that the game has many of the problems early 3D platformers had; such as bad camera, sloppy controls, et cetera. He also mentions that the levels/world design isn't good. (These are his opinions, not my own. I haven't played it).
However, the 2/10 he scored it is clearly just him being his spiteful, attention-seeking self lol.

The quote I used directly from his review.

Context, context, context.
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I'll have to see how the controls and camera are myself. Technical issues are the only things that could bring this game down for me. If those things are actually poorly done then yeah that's not good. If it's something you can get used to then I don't think it will be too big of an issue.
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l Dudeboy l posted...

FroMan posted...

Just because your game is going for a retro feel you don't have to include all the pratfalls that plagued the retro games you are emulating. You goal when making a retro game should be to take all that we loved about the old genre and make it fresh again by introducing all the innovations that have came since.

I don't want an adventure game plagued with dlc, microtransactions and multiplayer modes, thanks.

lol I can see now that you only interpret what people say to serve your own means, completely leaving out the rest or necessary context. I give up trying to have a discussion like this lol
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Burt_Macklin posted...

The "negative" reviews don't even say much of anything bad. Did people really want Yooka-Laylee to be some new innovative attempt at a 3D platformer? Or was the entire purpose of this Kickstarter to bring back a classic style of game people loved. Seems like the "negative" remarks about it being stuck in the past are positives for people who were passionate about this game coming out.

Exactly. Game doesn't even necessarily have to do anything that innovative. Just being a modern platformer in 2017 is different enough from everything else that's out.
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