Poll of the Day > Animal lovers take a moment to sign this petition. Yulin Dog Meat Festival

(+) Yeah! (+)

And a bimp
---

InfestedAdam posted...

Even as a cat lover, personally I'm fine with the consumption of cats and dogs. One can't expect all cultures to think the same. Some cultures don't eat beef or pork. Are we gonna bother listening to them if they try to stop us? However torturing said animals though I feel is wrong across the board. If you're gonna eat em, just give em a merciful death and be done with it.

The real reason people flip out all crazy with it is because of the religious belief there that suffering makes them more scrumptious. (it's actually the opposite as any deer hunter might tell you but whateva)
OP isn't lying about the torture, they get blinded with knives, beaten, kicked, stepped on, gouged with hot pokers, sliced between their claws...GIS is lightweight compared to the videos.
China has no formal animal cruelty laws so every time something like this comes up, it only succeeds in shutting it down for that one particular town. Probably the only good thing PeTA does with their money.
Basically you just have to get used to slogging through the same bureaucratic BS over and over.
It's been about eight years since the last one was shut down iirc. You're in this for the long haul if you go for it.
I'd prefer to use my time on multiple endangered species than one treated badly but common. Or helping Big Cat Rescue or anti-poacher organisations.

Zeus posted...

Which mentions a book but doesn't link to the source or the alleged audio recording. Literally, it's the same evidence is presented as somebody calling a pizza parlor and asking for a pepperoni pizza and an 11 y/o girl.

More importantly, all of the references -- the book, the speech, etc -- use ONE person as a source. That doesn't stand any scrutiny. If there was a substantial amount of evidence, you'd have more than one source. There are more "experts" speaking out against fluoride in our drinking water than there you have claiming these massive, widespread crimes. And, bearing in mind that the ONE person making these claims makes a very good living doing so between his book and speaking engagements.

Your pizza place wouldn't fulfill that order? You need to find a new pizza place then.

also as far as organ donation goes, China simply has more people. Percentage-wise Cartel Countries in South America can be as much as 4 times as high, and they don't target only locals.

bulbinking posted...

Zeus posted...

OneTimeBen posted...

Go to google

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/09/american-women-sign-petition-end-suffrage-prank_n_3565164.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2013/01/12/white-house-rejects-death-star-petittion/

There, some great examples of other petitions. Truly changing the world with those.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7vT78_tGj0

When have you become such a big defender of China?

roflmao, China Uncensored now? You're relying on an anti-China propagandist Youtube channel as a source. I will admit that I tried watching it but, after 3.5 minutes of not-even-slightly-disguised bias and shoddy punditry, I gave up watching that nonsense. I can't see how anybody stands that channel on a regular basis. However, it's worth noting that many of the things they cited in the early going were ALL from the same primary source: ONE person who makes a living on this alleged issue.

Once again, this channel claims that it's a massive, widespread problem and yet the claims of forced harvests from living inmates are completely unsubstantiated by independent press. If these claims were being made with the same evidence against Republicans in the US, you'd rightly cry foul. However, all critical thinking vanishes when the accusations are being made against a group you don't like. While I'm not a fan of the Chinese government, clearly the live harvests have fake news written all over it because otherwise we'd have widespread coverage and censorship, especially because FAKE stories about babies being murdered in a hospital was enough to get worldwide attention in the press.
---

OneTimeBen posted...

So many fools. I

And you can find their names on that petition.

Allie_Way posted...

also as far as organ donation goes, China simply has more people. Percentage-wise Cartel Countries in South America can be as much as 4 times as high, and they don't target only locals.

Evoking urban legends about people waking up in bathtubs full of ice? Because that's not how organ harvests even work. There's a lot of effort that needs to go into the transplant process.
---

bulbinking posted...

Until something is observed one cannot claim it exists, no matter how much you think it does.

So what have you observed that makes you so sure of yourself that any culture has ever bred canines or felines as a source of food?

It has to be something I've personally observed?

I'm getting flashbacks to that flat earth topic...
---

Zeus posted...

OneTimeBen posted...

So many fools. I

And you can find their names on that petition.

Allie_Way posted...

also as far as organ donation goes, China simply has more people. Percentage-wise Cartel Countries in South America can be as much as 4 times as high, and they don't target only locals.

Evoking urban legends about people waking up in bathtubs full of ice? Because that's not how organ harvests even work. There's a lot of effort that needs to go into the transplant process.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1320106-chinas-horrific-live-organ-harvesting-revealed-in-documentary/

The argument isnt that china never did it. They admit they did it. The argument is if they STOPPED doing it. What, experiencing some harsh cognitive dissonence that we smack talk russia over their treatment of homosexuals yet happily play along with our countries biggest factory state when they actively murder people over religion and oil animals alive for fun?

It makes sense if you realize politics is about money and not morals.

Sarcasthma posted...

bulbinking posted...

Until something is observed one cannot claim it exists, no matter how much you think it does.

So what have you observed that makes you so sure of yourself that any culture has ever bred canines or felines as a source of food?

It has to be something I've personally observed?

I'm getting flashbacks to that flat earth topic...

Im sorry but thats not related. You made the claim without evidence the same as the people believing the earth is flat without proof.
---

bulbinking posted...

Im sorry but thats not related. You made the claim without evidence the same as the people believing the earth is flat without proof.

Why not just simply ask for a source then instead of diagnosing me as possibly schizophrenic?

Anyways, here's a breed of dog raised primarily for its meat:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nureongi

There's no mention of how long this practice has been going on for, however.
---

Sarcasthma posted...

bulbinking posted...

Im sorry but thats not related. You made the claim without evidence the same as the people believing the earth is flat without proof.

Why not just simply ask for a source then instead of diagnosing me as possibly schizophrenic?

Anyways, here's a breed of dog raised primarily for its meat:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nureongi

There's no mention of how long this practice has been going on for, however.

http://dogreport.com/article/nureongi-korean-meat-dog

You said "dogs bred for consumption" except this dog breed is not recognized, meaning its not genetically distinct enough from established breeds to be considered a new breed.

Also it is a recent trend and is illegal to consume dog meat in korea.

You are moving the goal posts pretty hard to not sound stupid. You fail.

https://theageofblasphemy.wordpress.com/tag/nureongi/

Oh look, some people "breed" rottweiler to be muscular for food, in a western country too! Still, does not mean a specified domesticated breed meant for consumption the same as cows and chickens. Once again, as well, its considered taboo by majority of country and/or illegal.
---

bulbinking posted...

You said "dogs bred for consumption" except this dog breed is not recognized, meaning its not genetically distinct enough from established breeds to be considered a new breed.

So? They're still dogs that are mainly bred to be eaten. Whether or not they're a distinct breed is irrelevant to the point I'm trying to make.

bulbinking posted...

You are moving the goal posts pretty hard to not sound stupid. You fail.

Oh, you.
---

Sarcasthma posted...

So? They're still dogs that are mainly bred to be eaten. Whether or not they're a distinct breed is irrelevant to the point I'm trying to make.

Well then your point is irrelevant and a red herring as nobody is arguing that people who eat dogs don't try to make sure the dogs they eat are bred to have more meat on their bones.

Thats common sense.

Dogs, as in, not wild canines, were bred by humans to be companions, not food, the ENTIRE world over.

People would eat dogs in times of struggle, and I guess some people got attached to the practice for whatever messed up reasons and now they like torturing them to death because it makes them tastier?

Seriously how the fuck can people defend this? I have more empathy for those animals than the people getting pleasure out of causing another creature pain and suffering.

I KNOW you are being hypocritical in someway by defending this. Or are you against animal rights in general and want to legalize bestiality too? I mean, why not? Bestiality is legal in many countries and even part of some fringe cultures. "Like hey man don't judge unless you are judging people who are judging!"
---