Poll of the Day > Anyone here ever have sex with a post-op MtF transgender?

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JazzMasterZero
03/30/17 9:25:14 AM
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Always wondered what that would feel like.
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Foppe
03/30/17 9:59:37 AM
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A hole is a hole, even if it is not selflubricated.
I guess the tightness depends on how the surgery went and what they had to work with, but cis females comes in different shapes and tightness as well.
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Far-Queue
03/30/17 10:18:42 AM
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Just your mom, TC. Felt alright.
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Darth_CiD
03/30/17 10:27:05 AM
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OmegaTomHank posted...
Id rather smash my genitals with a sludgehammer.


As if I would ever stick my genitals in an open wound where someone cut their balls out

When you put it like that...geez
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KevinceKostner
03/30/17 10:33:28 AM
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Honestly would just rather a pre op, seems less gross
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Foppe
03/30/17 10:43:20 AM
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Darth_CiD posted...
OmegaTomHank posted...
Id rather smash my genitals with a sludgehammer.


As if I would ever stick my genitals in an open wound where someone cut their balls out

When you put it like that...geez


Dont worry, the hole is above the lacking balls.
Aint you more worried about the hole being made from the inverted penis?
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Foppe
03/30/17 10:54:05 AM
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Heh, that reminds me of a couple of comics...
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usui88
03/31/17 4:40:20 AM
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No, but a pre-op trans dude yes.
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Bugmeat
03/31/17 6:06:39 AM
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Jolnor?


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FatalAccident
03/31/17 6:08:30 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
Just your mom, TC. Felt alright.

roffffl
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ecco6t9
04/01/17 2:30:28 AM
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She said I was cute, and I had a bit to drink.
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Kana
04/01/17 2:37:23 AM
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OmegaTomHank posted...
Oh and it gets infected and discolors a lot.

Im honestly blown away that it's still legal. Instead of the ethical and logical decision of treating these people with this disorder with therapy and counselling we enable them to mangle their bodies with extremely questionable practices


Does anyone actually know what happens to a man after injecting estrogen for years non stop long term? Does anyone care? Or literally dismembering someone so they have an open wound forever that constantly is at risk for major infections?

Because I know the long term effects of abusing testosterone, man or women was killing people in their 50s..... But I guess no one cares about health anymore. Gotta get on board with PC culture.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about, dude. Just stop.
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OmegaTomHank
04/01/17 3:59:48 AM
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Nah you can get triggered elsewhere.



And keep shooting those hormones like vitamins despite zero evidence that its actually safe to do long term
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Serras
04/01/17 4:18:00 AM
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It's not an open wound, jeez, just think about that for a moment, would you? If someone had a large, open wound that was somehow kept open, they'd bleed out.
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Cacciato
04/01/17 4:34:13 AM
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Fuck, it's like Judgemenl 2.0
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OmegaTomHank
04/01/17 4:40:59 AM
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Serras posted...
It's not an open wound, jeez, just think about that for a moment, would you? If someone had a large, open wound that was somehow kept open, they'd bleed out.


No they wouldnt?

Do you know anything about anything?

http://s1.thingpic.com/images/pU/4RBkPCh9DBWk5VkWiYwTcXs2.jpeg

This person is not in any immediate danger of dying even if they left it like that.

However they ARE VERY at risk for infection to said wound and it causing a potential fatal reaction
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OmegaTomHank
04/01/17 4:45:29 AM
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Results

During the study period, a total of 205 primary MtF GRS were performed. Median age of patients was 33 years (range 18–76). Major complications such as deep infection, rectovaginal fistula and pulmonary embolism were rare. Minor complications affected approximately one in four patients. The most common minor complication were bleeding and infection.


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352587815000492



So in this study in 200 cases, about 50 of them experienced some sort of infection and bleeding to the opening cut out in their skin?

Gee..

Good thing we have people with degrees to tell us this. Never wouldve figured that one out
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OmegaTomHank
04/01/17 4:48:12 AM
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Bleeding requiring reoperation22 (11)

Wound infection requiring antibiotic treatment20 (10)

Wound dehiscence4 (2)



People have lost their damn minds in 2017.

"its not an open wound"


the hell do you think it is? They just magically create a vagina out of an organism in a jar?
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Cacciato
04/01/17 4:51:48 AM
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You seem irrationally upset with this.
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OmegaTomHank
04/01/17 4:52:51 AM
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Like theres no reason, theoretically you couldnt have this artificial genitalia on the top of your forehead, or between your belly button and breast..


Then go hey guy, stick it in here!


Of course most people would think that is pretty weird and uncomfortable. But as long as you put the same exact thing kinda in the area where its supposed to be Im supposed to play pretend like Im cool with that.


The fuck man.


If you are into that sort of thing you do you, I guess.
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OmegaTomHank
04/01/17 4:53:16 AM
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Cacciato posted...
You seem irrationally upset with this.



Theres nothing irrational about it.
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Cacciato
04/01/17 4:54:06 AM
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Yeahhhhhhhhh, you're irrationally obsessed with this. Good luck with all of that.
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OmegaTomHank
04/01/17 4:59:15 AM
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Im obsessed because I responded to a topic on the internet.


You got me buddy.
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Shaneariffic
04/01/17 4:59:18 AM
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#istandwithomegatomhank

I couldn't do it.
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NightMareBunny
04/01/17 5:05:52 AM
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OmegaTomHank posted...
Oh and it gets infected and discolors a lot.

Im honestly blown away that it's still legal. Instead of the ethical and logical decision of treating these people with this disorder with therapy and counselling we enable them to mangle their bodies with extremely questionable practices


Does anyone actually know what happens to a man after injecting estrogen for years non stop long term? Does anyone care? Or literally dismembering someone so they have an open wound forever that constantly is at risk for major infections?

Because I know the long term effects of abusing testosterone, man or women was killing people in their 50s..... But I guess no one cares about health anymore. Gotta get on board with PC culture.


people don't know how else to treat it but i do admit there is something not right with just mangling your body to be what it wasn't meant to be
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Serras
04/01/17 5:08:04 AM
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Of course bleeding and infection are possible complications while it's still healing (as with any other surgery), but women aren't supposed to have sex until it's healed. Skin grafts are also involved, so the end result is nothing like that nasty hand you have there.
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The_Beta_Male
04/01/17 5:20:19 AM
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Kana posted...
OmegaTomHank posted...
Oh and it gets infected and discolors a lot.

Im honestly blown away that it's still legal. Instead of the ethical and logical decision of treating these people with this disorder with therapy and counselling we enable them to mangle their bodies with extremely questionable practices


Does anyone actually know what happens to a man after injecting estrogen for years non stop long term? Does anyone care? Or literally dismembering someone so they have an open wound forever that constantly is at risk for major infections?

Because I know the long term effects of abusing testosterone, man or women was killing people in their 50s..... But I guess no one cares about health anymore. Gotta get on board with PC culture.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about, dude. Just stop.


the fuck? is that like your go-to terrible comeback whenever you're upset at something you're reading?

because everything he just said was 100% fucking spot on. the truth doesn't give a shit if it offends anyone
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OmegaTomHank
04/01/17 5:30:47 AM
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Serras posted...
Of course bleeding and infection are possible complications while it's still healing (as with any other surgery), but women aren't supposed to have sex until it's healed. Skin grafts are also involved, so the end result is nothing like that nasty hand you have there.



Have you ever seen one?

I have.

Many.

It doesnt look nice.
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OmegaTomHank
04/01/17 5:34:04 AM
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I also have a skin graph on my foot. It covers the exposed flesh left from a burn.


Sure they have skin grafts to make it look a little better and make it a little more sanitary and safe, but the fact remains it still has to remain open to allow things to enter it, which naturally leaves it at risk for infection.

Ive also heard anecdotal that the smell is awful and requires heavy maintenance to avoid such a smell
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Foppe
04/01/17 5:36:14 AM
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And nobody would stick their dick in it if they could only build something that look like your foot.
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TentacleDemon
04/01/17 5:43:19 AM
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Serras posted...
Of course bleeding and infection are possible complications while it's still healing (as with any other surgery),

Exactly. The same article that he linked to, it mentions multiple times that these are short term complications. I dont know if he somehow missed the mutiple times it was said or if he chose to ignore it because it didnt fit his version of things. Once all the incisions have healed it is not longer an "open wound". Just like with those big stupid holes people put in their ears. They aren't wounds once the flesh has healed.

I've dated 2 post OP trans women. The first had a really bad, totally obvious man made vagina. The second had a very nice looking vagina and lube was rarely needed because she had a much more advanced version of the surgery that actually used a portion or the colon which is a mucus membrane (feels better too), along with the precum she produced when she got really turned on, because they don't remove the prostate so you still get that. She had a marvelous surgeon who gave her a much nicer slit than some of the natural women I've been with. Any man whose had more than a handful of partners knows what a wide variety of appearances there are.
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OmegaTomHank
04/01/17 6:29:42 AM
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Gauges? They smell TERRIBLE. And also prone to infection.


Im pretty sure thats different though as that actually closes if you dont keep something in there.
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SmallvilleCK
04/01/17 6:48:56 AM
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y
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Serras
04/01/17 7:23:32 AM
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OmegaTomHank posted...
Im pretty sure thats different though as that actually closes if you dont keep something in there.


Actually, there's a similar bit. Trans women need to use a dilator every so often to make sure it doesn't shrink.

However, it's not left in for long periods of time like gauges, and it's not used to stretch the vagina, only maintain its size. Gauge-related infections are often caused by stretching too quickly, poor hygiene, or the material of the gauge irritating the skin.

Really, as long as women clean themselves properly, they're fine. That goes for all women, as natural vaginas are prone to infection as well when mishandled. Hell, sometimes even when not. Did you know antibiotics can cause yeast infections? They mess with the natural bacteria balance down there.
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Hercular1
04/01/17 7:35:05 AM
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Serras posted...
OmegaTomHank posted...
Im pretty sure thats different though as that actually closes if you dont keep something in there.


Actually, there's a similar bit. Trans women need to use a dilator every so often to make sure it doesn't shrink.

However, it's not left in for long periods of time like gauges, and it's not used to stretch the vagina, only maintain its size. Gauge-related infections are often caused by stretching too quickly, poor hygiene, or the material of the gauge irritating the skin.

Really, as long as women clean themselves properly, they're fine. That goes for all women, as natural vaginas are prone to infection as well when mishandled. Hell, sometimes even when not. Did you know antibiotics can cause yeast infections? They mess with the natural bacteria balance down there.


Yeah, but natural Vaginas don't shrink.

Also, anyone defending this type of surgery is almost as mentally screwed up as the ones having it done to themselves.
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SooSober
04/01/17 7:39:20 AM
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I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
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Foppe
04/01/17 7:45:21 AM
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Hercular1 posted...
anyone defending this type of surgery is almost as mentally screwed up as the ones having it done to themselves


Anybody that got a different opinion than you are mentally screwed?
That doesnt sound like a sane opinion.
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SooSober
04/01/17 7:51:51 AM
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Thinking it's okay to mangle ones genitals is not sane.
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Hercular1
04/01/17 7:54:03 AM
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Foppe posted...
Hercular1 posted...
anyone defending this type of surgery is almost as mentally screwed up as the ones having it done to themselves


Anybody that got a different opinion than you are mentally screwed?
That doesnt sound like a sane opinion.


It's not an opinion at this point. You are actively enabling mentally sick people into slicing off their genitalia while biochemically changing their body into something they are not and will truly never be.

Anyone from the outside looking in, with no frame of reference, would see that this type of behavior is disturbing.
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Zangulus
04/01/17 8:23:55 AM
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The loudest anti transgender people always seem to be the most ignorant of science and biology. Especially gender.

This is always fun.
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The_Beta_Male
04/01/17 9:21:40 AM
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TentacleDemon posted...
I've dated 2 post OP trans women. The first had a really bad, totally obvious man made vagina. The second had a very nice looking vagina and lube was rarely needed because she had a much more advanced version of the surgery that actually used a portion or the colon which is a mucus membrane (feels better too), along with the precum she produced when she got really turned on, because they don't remove the prostate so you still get that. She had a marvelous surgeon who gave her a much nicer slit than some of the natural women I've been with. Any man whose had more than a handful of partners knows what a wide variety of appearances there are.


okay but wait just because someone has a bunch of surgeries and takes hormones doesn't mean their gender has changed. this is a physical impossibility given our current understanding of this dimension and the laws of physics and all that shit

you. cannot. change. your. birth. gender. it. is. not. possible.

when you refer to them as the gender they choose to identify as, you might be sparing their feelings, but you're telling a lie and spreading untruths--they CANNOT change their gender. Maybe one day in the future this technology will exist, but it doesn't now.

And there LITERALLY is no disputing my point, because at the end of the day, chromosomes are a thing. If you're XX, you're female. If you're XY, you're male. If you're something abnormal like XXY or whatever then things get a little murky but come the fuck on, you are either a male or a female in this world and there is no denying or changing this truth.

i swear, this whole fucking issue exists only b/c people are bored and like drama. they just want to incessantly whine, complain and argue with one another for no real fucking reason whatsoever

Zangulus posted...
The loudest anti transgender people always seem to be the most ignorant of science and biology. Especially gender.

This is always fun.


It IS fun, especially when people like you come in and say shit like that, because the "anti transgender" people have posted nothing but facts supported both by science and common sense. No hate speech or anything INTENDED to hurt someone's little feelings, but i'm sure someone's feelings were inevitably hurt. But so what? They're not trying to hurt you, they're trying to get through to you and show you the TRUTH. Sometimes the truth can hurt your feelings; it's up to you to toughen up so it doesn't happen again.
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Zangulus
04/01/17 9:25:39 AM
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The_Beta_Male posted...
because the "anti transgender" people have posted nothing but facts supported both by science


See what I mean.

Lawls.

Might want to try actually learning the realities behind chromosomes, biology, and actual science.

Here's a hint: Sex changing is a known thing within biology.

Second hint: Misgendered babies happen regularly.

Third hint: There's a well known issue with children being born biologically female and developing a penis once they hit puberty and becoming male.

There's a lot more going on with biology than your simplistic "whatchu born as is whatchu is" approach to it.
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The_Beta_Male
04/01/17 9:30:46 AM
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Zangulus posted...
The_Beta_Male posted...
because the "anti transgender" people have posted nothing but facts supported both by science


See what I mean.

Lawls.

Might want to try actually learning the realities behind chromosomes, biology, and actual science.

Here's a hint: Sex changing is a known thing within biology.

Second hint: Misgendered babies happen regularly.

Third hint: There's a well known issue with children being born biologically female and developing a penis once they hit puberty and becoming male.

There's a lot more going on with biology than your simplistic "whatchu born as is whatchu is" approach to it.


You should drop the condescending bullshit because you know how much bigger I am than you irl.

that being said, here's my hint for you pal: sex changing doesn't occur in humans; "misgendered" babies? hello? chromosomes? lastly, what is this "well known issue" with children being blah blah whatever? Where are your sources?

you can't win this battle, none of you can. i have the truth on my side
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Zangulus
04/01/17 9:34:42 AM
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The_Beta_Male posted...
You should drop the condescending bullshit because you know how much bigger I am than you irl.


Yeah. Don't care. There are other things than physical size. Which you obviously lack.

The_Beta_Male posted...
that being said, here's my hint for you pal: sex changing doesn't occur in humans; "misgendered" babies? hello? chromosomes? lastly, what is this "well known issue" with children being blah blah whatever? Where are your sources?


I like how you first say it doesn't happen then ask for sources. Nice.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34290981

Took no time at all to find several stories about it. But searching for the truth isn't as easy as trying to be a tough talking guy on the internet is, I guess.

The_Beta_Male posted...
you can't win this battle, none of you can. i have the truth on my side


If by truth you mean complete ignorance of the facts of reality, then sure. Though to keep your persona, you'd have to be.
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My_Unit
04/01/17 9:44:39 AM
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Zangulus posted...
The loudest anti transgender people always seem to be the most ignorant of science and biology. Especially gender.

This is always fun.

Yet no one has provided any evidence to the contrary in this topic. Just dumb statements with no proof
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The_Beta_Male
04/01/17 9:55:38 AM
#50:


Zangulus posted...
The_Beta_Male posted...
You should drop the condescending bullshit because you know how much bigger I am than you irl.


Yeah. Don't care. There are other things than physical size. Which you obviously lack.

The_Beta_Male posted...
that being said, here's my hint for you pal: sex changing doesn't occur in humans; "misgendered" babies? hello? chromosomes? lastly, what is this "well known issue" with children being blah blah whatever? Where are your sources?


I like how you first say it doesn't happen then ask for sources. Nice.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34290981

Took no time at all to find several stories about it. But searching for the truth isn't as easy as trying to be a tough talking guy on the internet is, I guess.

The_Beta_Male posted...
you can't win this battle, none of you can. i have the truth on my side


If by truth you mean complete ignorance of the facts of reality, then sure. Though to keep your persona, you'd have to be.


nope you're wrong. and even if you were right it doesn't matter b/c of the two of us i'm the only one willing to put his facebook out to the public with all my pics and info n shit

so basically bro, even if u were right, you still can't win b/c i'm willing to go further than you are
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Zangulus
04/01/17 9:57:45 AM
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The_Beta_Male posted...
nope you're wrong. and even if you were right it doesn't matter b/c of the two of us i'm the only one willing to put his facebook out to the public with all my pics and info n shit

so basically bro, even if u were right, you still can't win b/c i'm willing to go further than you are


Well... that sure is something. Completely and utterly irrelevant and in no way indicative of reality. But it suits you.
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wwinterj25
04/01/17 10:32:18 AM
#52:


JazzMasterZero posted...
Anyone here ever have sex with a post-op MtF transgender?


I haven't but would I? It's possible if I was drunk enough and/or wasn't aware said person is trans. It's hard to tell in some cases unless they outright tell you.
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Darth_CiD
04/01/17 10:43:05 AM
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Zangulus posted...
I like how you first say it doesn't happen then ask for sources. Nice.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34290981

Took no time at all to find several stories about it. But searching for the truth isn't as easy as trying to be a tough talking guy on the internet is, I guess.

Did you actually bother to read the article? Those children were always male, they have a deficiency that stopped the penis from growing and their parents were stupid enough to think no penis = female. The process is actually explained incredibly well in the article, including pointing out that they were always male. You posted a source that disproved exactly what you were trying to say.
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Zangulus
04/01/17 10:48:20 AM
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Darth_CiD posted...
Did you actually bother to read the article? Those children were always male, they have a deficiency that stopped the penis from growing and their parents were stupid enough to think no penis = female. The process is actually explained incredibly well in the article, including pointing out that they were always male. You posted a source that disproved exactly what you were trying to say.


Yes. I did read the article. That one was a third point, not the entire point. Yes, they were biologically male the entire time due to a deficiency. But they were listed as female by their doctors and on their birth certificates. This goes to the point that "you were born female you're female" style of thinking.

It in no way encompasses the entirety of the complexity of gender and chromosomes.
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