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Airship_Canon 03/26/17 6:36:10 PM #1: |
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ninkendo 03/26/17 6:38:39 PM #2: |
didn't 8-4 do Awakening
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iiicon 03/26/17 6:42:04 PM #3: |
can't believe nintendo just censored nintendo like that
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KamikazePotato 03/26/17 6:42:46 PM #4: |
Didn't people complain about 8-4's Awakening translation too
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iiicon 03/26/17 6:43:59 PM #5: |
KamikazePotato posted...
Didn't people complain about ... translation too yes --- ICON: You don't have to be afraid of the pain inside you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark Young Link 03/26/17 6:48:44 PM #6: |
Was there actual legitimate complaints about Awakening/Fates translations? Or was it bad because it wasn't in Japanese?
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Anagram 03/26/17 6:53:01 PM #7: |
Dark Young Link posted...
Was there actual legitimate complaints about Awakening/Fates translations? Or was it bad because it wasn't in Japanese? It's been a while, but for Fates I remember them changing characters' names kind of randomly, editing the lesbian marriage to have the same dialogue as the straight marriage, changing a support dialogue to consist only of "...", and generally making a bunch of weird little changes like that. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 03/26/17 6:57:56 PM #8: |
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Mac Arrowny 03/26/17 7:19:37 PM #9: |
There were one or two awkward things, but it was mostly great.
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Wanglicious 03/26/17 7:22:10 PM #10: |
Awakening's main complaint lies in the way they handled Henry. there's a couple other more minor things but that's the biggest.
Fates' main complaint lies in like 8 different things, including outright removal of supports, massive character changes, a lot of bad VA choices, and butchering your son's romances. the dude gets explicitly rejected in 4 or 5 of them. as in he gets up to S Rank with them, asks them out, and they say no. so he's forever alone. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mac Arrowny 03/26/17 7:22:46 PM #11: |
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Airship_Canon 03/26/17 7:23:02 PM #12: |
KamikazePotato posted...
Didn't people complain about 8-4's Awakening translation too Not even remotely as much as the fire on Fates. And that's because, while certainly not perfect or ideal, it's not the complete trainwreck of cut content, altered characters [while 8-4's Awakening rewrote some supports and gave a certain character a different way of speaking, they never did any complete overhauls. The same cannot be said of Fates. Effie, Soleil, Hisame, and Kana all got radically changed]. --- Waifus are not gear adrift! Hooyarr! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Grand Kirby 03/26/17 7:26:21 PM #13: |
I bet it must have been too hard for them to actually translate supports and they just quit.
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KamikazePotato 03/26/17 7:36:40 PM #14: |
Wanglicious posted...
the dude gets explicitly rejected in 4 or 5 of them. as in he gets up to S Rank with them, asks them out, and they say no. so he's forever alone. Haha really? That's amazing. Does the game still count it as him being in a relationship with someone, so he can't ask out someone else? I actually went through the Fates voice lines last night for funsies, and most of them seemed pretty good. Girl who plays Felicia and Setsuna is a pro. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Airship_Canon 03/26/17 7:40:16 PM #15: |
KamikazePotato posted...
Yes. That travesty is stuck. --- Waifus are not gear adrift! Hooyarr! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 03/26/17 7:45:45 PM #16: |
KamikazePotato posted...
yep! only one S Rank allowed so he's just screwed. S Rank Friend Zone. he has exactly one relationship where someone (i think him) confesses and the girl responds romantically. the rest are either entirely platonic or with him just rejected. there were a few pics around that, this one being probably my favorite. http://i.imgur.com/8MPnjAB.png --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeoElfboy 03/26/17 7:48:36 PM #17: |
FE needs way more non-romantic supports in general.
Wanglicious posted... Awakening's main complaint lies in the way they handled Henry. there's a couple other more minor things but that's the biggest. You mean how they improved Henry? It's not an accident the character is dramatically more popular outside Japan. --- The RPG Duelling League: www.rpgdl.com An unparalleled source for RPG information and discussion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 03/26/17 7:49:44 PM #18: |
Doesn't this one not even have supports? That's what I heard and it basically killed my interest
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Airship_Canon 03/26/17 7:55:56 PM #19: |
swordz9 posted...
Doesn't this one not even have supports? That's what I heard and it basically killed my interest No, SoV has supports. Gaiden didn't though. --- Waifus are not gear adrift! Hooyarr! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 03/26/17 8:05:23 PM #20: |
Airship_Canon posted...
swordz9 posted...Doesn't this one not even have supports? That's what I heard and it basically killed my interest Really? Even as of this month I've yet to see anything confirming supports ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Airship_Canon 03/26/17 8:08:31 PM #21: |
Airship_Canon posted...swordz9 posted...Doesn't this one not even have supports? That's what I heard and it basically killed my interest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwrR8weO5po That's because, along with confirmation that Treehouse ain't touching SoV with a 40 foot pole, it's new information. --- Waifus are not gear adrift! Hooyarr! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tcaz2 03/26/17 8:11:03 PM #22: |
NeoElfboy posted...
You mean how they improved Henry? It's not an accident the character is dramatically more popular outside Japan. The only reason he's more popular outside Japan is because the US has different taste than Japan in characters. Unless the character is a true standout, these almost never align. Anyway, Henry was handled badly, but Fates translation was atrocious. swordz9 posted... Really? Even as of this month I've yet to see anything confirming supports They did two games without supports and that was the #1 complaint people had about Radiant Dawn and Shadow Dragon to the point they specifically apologized about it and went out of their way to make sure to add them into New Mystery. I would say its a pretty safe bet there will be supports. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSBM_Guy 03/26/17 8:13:27 PM #23: |
I like both American Henry and Japanese Henry. Neat character all around.
I also like Fates translation in general. Awakening's is probably better, but it's not really noticeable to me. --- I'm, like...SO hyped for DpObliVion's destruction of the Guru contest! when thinking of Krystal, does GMUN's pants get overcrowded? ~ GMUN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 03/26/17 8:15:22 PM #24: |
I don't feel like looking through 25mins of video so I'll take your word for it. Still not entirely sure I am interested. Not getting on release day at least
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TheRock1525 03/26/17 8:39:41 PM #25: |
Except Kana (m) getting friendzoned doesn't mean squat because he can't have a kid anyway. Unlike Awakening, Fates determined offspring by the father.
So like getting mad that these girls don't madly fall in love with him in the translation is kinda pointless cause it has zero effect on gameplay. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 03/26/17 8:40:52 PM #26: |
TheRock1525 posted...
Except Kana (m) getting friendzoned doesn't mean squat because he can't have a kid anyway. Unlike Awakening, Fates determined offspring by the father. Well also the kids don't have children ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 03/26/17 8:41:15 PM #27: |
Also Kana is easily the worst character in Fates so who cares
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SupremeZero 03/26/17 8:42:10 PM #28: |
Paratroopa1 posted...
TheRock1525 posted...Except Kana (m) getting friendzoned doesn't mean squat because he can't have a kid anyway. Unlike Awakening, Fates determined offspring by the father. They can if they bang your MC, which Kana obviously can't do. Though that's even stupider than in Awakening, since the kids here aren't adults who lived their whole lives without the parents. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 03/26/17 8:43:15 PM #29: |
Paratroopa1 posted...
TheRock1525 posted...Except Kana (m) getting friendzoned doesn't mean squat because he can't have a kid anyway. Unlike Awakening, Fates determined offspring by the father. Well using the Avatar you could make kids have kids. Like you could S-support at kid character and make them Kana's Mother/Father. Same with Awakening. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xiahou Shake 03/26/17 8:43:36 PM #30: |
Have we gone this far without mentioning Effie? I've never seen a character butchered so freaking badly, holy hell. Awakening's handling of Henry was pretty bad but Fates has infinitely worse s*** and a lot more of it.
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TheRock1525 03/26/17 8:45:11 PM #31: |
So what's the difference between Effie between the original and translation? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KJH 03/26/17 8:46:25 PM #32: |
I think Fates translation takes the brunt of the blame for bad writing to work with in the first place.
Also the difference for Effie is the japanese one is soft-spoken and demure instead of gung-ho about being strong. Personally, I like it better, considering the game's other armor knight is Benny, who already has the gentle giant armor knight with deceiving looks gimmick going on. --- You can't live without a spinal cord, son. Nothing unnatural about that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 03/26/17 8:47:11 PM #33: |
Paratroopa1 posted...
Also Kana is easily the worst character in Fates so who cares No way she is worst. I can think of several ahead of her in that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 03/26/17 8:47:15 PM #34: |
Effie was a gentle giant sort of character. very sweet voice with a contrast to her ridiculous strength.
US version's more butch. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 03/26/17 8:47:54 PM #35: |
Xiahou Shake posted...
Awakening's handling of Henry was pretty bad That's an opinion I don't share ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Arti 03/26/17 8:54:32 PM #36: |
US Henry is probably the best character in the game personality-wise
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MariaTaylor 03/26/17 8:54:51 PM #37: |
Wanglicious posted...
the dude gets explicitly rejected in 4 or 5 of them. as in he gets up to S Rank with them, asks them out, and they say no. so he's forever alone. did they change him to appeal more to western audiences? --- Won't you be my <Friend>? https://puu.sh/uuF2l/1e28d09ff7.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 03/26/17 8:57:47 PM #38: |
I mean, from a gameplay standpoint literally nothing changes. You still get the same stat boosts and everything you get from a S-support, the ability to reclass to their partner's classes, etc.
So like, it's basically people getting upset that in their internal headcanon, Kana (m) isn't f***ing Sophie. Like, it isn't inherently a bad translation, it's just a different approach. You can dislike it (which is perfectly acceptable) but this idea that it's "butchering" is kinda missing the point of translation teams. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mnkboy907 03/26/17 8:59:26 PM #39: |
I have no problems with Treehouse friendzoning Kana left and right. He's still just a kid while the other "children" are pretty much adults. Off hand I think Midori's the only girl that looks about the same age.
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TheRock1525 03/26/17 9:01:41 PM #40: |
mnkboy907 posted...
I have no problems with Treehouse friendzoning Kana left and right. He's still just a kid while the other "children" are pretty much adults. Off hand I think Midori's the only girl that looks about the same age. I made Lon'qu marry Nowi, the 8 year old looking dragon girl that "oh it's ok because she's really hundreds of years old" --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MariaTaylor 03/26/17 9:02:06 PM #41: |
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Wanglicious 03/26/17 9:02:33 PM #42: |
...no, that's a bad translation. it's literally the exact opposite of what was written, what else are you supposed to call that? it's not their headcanon saying Kana isn't getting the girl, it's the game itself saying he's not getting the girl. the strategic gameplay isn't at all relevant in this discussion, the simulator aspects (supports, pairings) are along with the writing.
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TheRock1525 03/26/17 9:17:08 PM #43: |
No it's not a bad translation because that's literally how translating games works. It's been that way since the dawn of translations.
If you want an exact translation, learn Japanese and translate it yourself. The whole point is to recognize the differences in audience between Japan and Western locations and to make changes as you see fit to make it appeal to the other audience. f*** man we had Robotnik and then we had to get the "exact" translation to Eggman. f*** that. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0r0n 03/26/17 9:17:09 PM #44: |
I was still able to masturbate to it so I don't see the problem
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TheRock1525 03/26/17 9:18:33 PM #45: |
You masturbated a lot less to Eggman than Robotnik, though.
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MariaTaylor 03/26/17 9:19:44 PM #46: |
Rock I think you're confusing translation and localization
translation is literally translating something from one language to the other. if you try to translate something and come out with the opposite meaning then it's definitely a bad translation. like, by definition. now you can argue that it's fine to do as a localization effort, but there are plenty of people who would argue the opposite. this is a matter of opinion so there is no clear answer. --- Won't you be my <Friend>? https://puu.sh/uuF2l/1e28d09ff7.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0r0n 03/26/17 9:20:05 PM #47: |
TheRock1525 posted...
You masturbated a lot less to Eggman than Robotnik, though. They both got a load of this --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 03/26/17 9:20:42 PM #48: |
MariaTaylor posted...
Rock I think you're confusing translation and localization Yeah, I'll agree to that. It might be a bad translation but I don't think it's a bad localization. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 03/26/17 9:21:14 PM #49: |
MariaTaylor posted...
Rock I think you're confusing translation and localization Yeah, this is fair But it's also why they call it "localizing" a game instead of translating it. Fans translate, companies localize. People still don't accept that for some reason. --- SEP Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/456/2z6v0qcgif.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MariaTaylor 03/26/17 9:23:34 PM #50: |
the topic title is indeed wrong and Airship_Canon should be severely penalized for this grave transgression
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