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GuessMyUserName
03/23/17 9:36:30 AM
#401:


HaRRicH posted...
http://time.com/4710456/donald-trump-time-interview-truth-falsehood/

Full interview with Donald about honesty and truth.

" I can’t be doing so badly, because I’m president, and you’re not."

trump finally admits that obama wasn't so bad
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Mr Lasastryke
03/23/17 9:38:27 AM
#402:


GuessMyUserName posted...
" I can’t be doing so badly, because I’m president, and you’re not."


jesus christ this is actually a quote by the president of the united states.

rip the world.
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ChaosTonyV4
03/23/17 9:42:45 AM
#403:


red sox 777 posted...
Bernie would have won, fairly easily. Republicans will win in 2018 barring a major shift in the Democratic Party, involving the showing of genuine contrition and introspection, demonstrated by the replacement of the party leaders who have led us to unified Republican government.

The Democrats talk a lot about equality, but it's very hard to become a Democratic politician. You need a lot of credentials, and it's very hard indeed if you are not a minority or rich. And whoever you are, you need to hew the party line when talking about any number of an ever-increasing number of issues seen as fundamental.

On the other hand, anyone can become a Republican politician. You don't need any qualifications. And you can say whatever you please. Of course you will be judged by your votes in Congress, but only your voters will punish you and no one else.


I agree with all of this.

Also

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Hes-Americas-most-popular-politicianWhy-wont-they-listen.html

How can anyone continue to say with a straight face "Yeah, Hillary, one of the most unpopular politicians in our lifetimes, lost, but so would literally the most liked"?
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HaRRicH
03/23/17 9:56:47 AM
#404:


Bernie was ahead of his time, time and time again.
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banananor
03/23/17 10:51:05 AM
#405:


i love bernie's message and stances, but i'm skeptical that he would've won. it could've gone either way

on one hand, he may have done better in those crucial rust belt states. he may have co-opted trump's 'f*** the system' vote. his message is almost perfectly tailored for that demographic

on the other hand, all of the confirmed red voters i know view him as a crackpot socialist. so do some of the blue voters

all i can confirm is that if he had made it past the primaries we would've gotten to see trump do his best bernie impersonation
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ChaosTonyV4
03/23/17 11:17:57 AM
#407:


banananor posted...
i love bernie's message and stances, but i'm skeptical that he would've won. it could've gone either way

on one hand, he may have done better in those crucial rust belt states. he may have co-opted trump's 'f*** the system' vote. his message is almost perfectly tailored for that demographic

on the other hand, all of the confirmed red voters i know view him as a crackpot socialist. so do some of the blue voters

all i can confirm is that if he had made it past the primaries we would've gotten to see trump do his best bernie impersonation


So you think Trump was unbeatable? Got it.
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Peace___Frog
03/23/17 11:24:03 AM
#408:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/844909911146479616

Well???

What a loser
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banananor
03/23/17 11:26:02 AM
#409:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
So you think Trump was unbeatable? Got it.

banananor posted...
it could've gone either way

i think hillary could've beaten him, too
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My Immortal
03/23/17 11:31:11 AM
#410:


So what time is the vote today? Looking around it seems like the House has been in recess for the last 4 hours with no schedule to reconvene. Are they just desperately trying to drum up necessary votes?
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HaRRicH
03/23/17 11:31:37 AM
#411:


https://twitter.com/hshaban/status/844958842895171584

Our generation's gonna be blamed as the ones who don't care for privacy when it's these older politicians voting to strip and oversee our privacy at every goddamn moment for a dollar.
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VeryInsane
03/23/17 11:31:48 AM
#412:


I feel like what ifs are pointless and don't do anything to solve the problems with the campaign

Hillary just never actually tried to win, instead just trying not to lose. And more of the same does nothing to a extremely fickle voting population that gets upset when things don't go their way
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ChaosTonyV4
03/23/17 11:32:58 AM
#413:


banananor posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
So you think Trump was unbeatable? Got it.

banananor posted...
it could've gone either way

i think hillary could've beaten him, too


Sorry, my son was screaming and I responded snarkier than I meant to.
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Eddv
03/23/17 11:41:35 AM
#414:


My Immortal posted...
So what time is the vote today? Looking around it seems like the House has been in recess for the last 4 hours with no schedule to reconvene. Are they just desperately trying to drum up necessary votes?


They dont want to vote on it and have it fail so yeah.
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KamikazePotato
03/23/17 11:44:29 AM
#415:


By the way guys, this story is the embodiment of Leopard eating faces:

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/trump-supporters-husband-getting-deported-despite-being-a-model-resident/
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ChaosTonyV4
03/23/17 12:01:08 PM
#417:


http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/325296-trumps-transportation-chief-tweets-sue-his-very-soul-in-apparent-hack


UHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Eddv
03/23/17 12:07:52 PM
#418:


SUE HIS VERY SOULcaps
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My Immortal
03/23/17 12:37:41 PM
#419:


No vote today, apparently.
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Not_an_Owl
03/23/17 12:40:52 PM
#420:


My Immortal posted...
No vote today, apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
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psaltery
03/23/17 12:56:55 PM
#422:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7E3Bb98uKw
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Suprak the Stud
03/23/17 1:03:51 PM
#423:


HaRRicH posted...
https://twitter.com/hshaban/status/844958842895171584

Our generation's gonna be blamed as the ones who don't care for privacy when it's these older politicians voting to strip and oversee our privacy at every goddamn moment for a dollar.


How much would it cost to buy the browsing history of every politician that voted for this? And can we get a kickstarter going y/n?
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Peace___Frog
03/23/17 1:05:54 PM
#424:


Oh goodness I'd contribute to that right away.

I honestly think there should be an age cap on political positions, there are too many officials who are too old to understand technology besides what the lobbyists tell them.
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BowserCuffs
03/23/17 1:13:21 PM
#425:


LapisLazuli posted...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/23/the-trump-troubadour-went-to-45-trump-rallies-in-honor-of-his-late-son-now-he-feels-betrayed/


I'm gonna be blunt.

For the past many months, I haven't really lost any respect for Trump, because he hadn't earned any to begin with, especially with his jackass campaign strategy. All he was doing was proving my worries about him right, and that my current negative attitude towards him was justified.

This? This plunged it right down. Now I actively hate him.

Poor guy, he was trying to do what he thought was right and he was betrayed so callously. And he lost so much trying to do it. So many in his shoes would've done the same thing.
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Regaro
03/23/17 1:22:50 PM
#426:


KamikazePotato posted...
By the way guys, this story is the embodiment of Leopard eating faces:

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/trump-supporters-husband-getting-deported-despite-being-a-model-resident/

Pretty much yeah.

Kind of hilarious
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PerfectChaosZ
03/23/17 1:33:50 PM
#427:


Regaro posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
By the way guys, this story is the embodiment of Leopard eating faces:

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/trump-supporters-husband-getting-deported-despite-being-a-model-resident/

Pretty much yeah.

Kind of hilarious


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BowserCuffs
03/23/17 1:41:40 PM
#428:


https://68.media.tumblr.com/cd8fd1bb925a8a50dfda792c84a64e50/tumblr_on95k2Cqyg1r13asbo1_1280.png

Backstory time

Once, awhile, someone told an obviously apocryphal story about how trans people in a "down with cis" bus pulled up next to him, climbed out, and beat up his friend for being cis.

It was hilariously fake and started the whole "down with cis" trend as a reference to that apocryphal story.

...Now we have, a bus that is, for all practical purposes, "Down with Trans".

Except it's real and not an apocryphal story. And hopefully, it won't involve a bunch of cis people climbing out and physically attacking anyone they think is trans. Of course, they're defending themselves with "Free Speech", which seems to be a favorite of people who only care about their right to say offensive things while denying their ideological opponents their own right to say things that are offensive to them.
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Kenri
03/23/17 2:08:48 PM
#429:


My favorite thing about statements like "boys are boys... and always will be" is that it's an extremely pithy way to demonstrate that you have absolutely no idea what your opponents are even arguing.
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HaRRicH
03/23/17 2:38:33 PM
#430:


Anybody else see those memes that are like "Liberals believe science, yet also believe there are thirty genders?" It's always a little funny for me to see that these same people misunderstand the difference between sex and gender. That's not the crux of their argument, but they don't care to learn more about it either so why treat them seriously beyond that too.
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LordoftheMorons
03/23/17 3:00:02 PM
#431:


https://www.instagram.com/p/BR_n0jwFkxP/

....what
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DeathChicken
03/23/17 3:01:18 PM
#432:


"How Presidential"
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SupremeZero
03/23/17 3:02:42 PM
#433:


Setting aside the rest of the issues here, what kind of combination is "CEOs and Truckers".
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ChaosTonyV4
03/23/17 3:09:32 PM
#434:


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN16T3A6

What is even going on?
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Jakyl25
03/23/17 3:16:49 PM
#435:


https://twitter.com/mfcannon/status/845020749991743490

*snort*
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Ashethan
03/23/17 3:17:21 PM
#436:


Peace___Frog posted...
I honestly think there should be an age cap on political positions, there are too many officials who are too old to understand technology besides what the lobbyists tell them.


I'm pretty sure my 4 year old daughters know more about technology than most politicians. And they haven't even started pre-school yet.

That said, I doubt them knowing more about it would mean that they'd be less likely to listen to lobbyists than they are now.
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SupremeZero
03/23/17 3:18:27 PM
#437:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/mfcannon/status/845020749991743490

*snort*

"Okay!"

I mean, they're not exactly wrong...
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Jakyl25
03/23/17 3:25:25 PM
#438:


I'm impressed they're finally willing to blame someone besides Obama for something
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Jakyl25
03/23/17 3:27:39 PM
#439:


Where do "Trump above all" people fall on this?

Trump wants to push this through so he can say he got rid of Obamacare

But he's taking a very pro-swamp stance to do it against other "outsiders."
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LordoftheMorons
03/23/17 3:38:15 PM
#440:


The idea that the important thing to do here is to pass something, regardless of whether it's better or worse than Obamacare, just to deliver on a campaign promise is, frankly, disgusting. They're playing with peoples' lives.

(I'm sure some of them actually think the bill would be an improvement, but that's clearly not what's driving people like Trump who obviously doesn't care what's in the bill as long as it passes).
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DeathChicken
03/23/17 3:41:37 PM
#441:


Ah, but your key mistake is assuming these people give a f*** about other people's lives.
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SupremeZero
03/23/17 3:42:22 PM
#442:


DeathChicken posted...
Ah, but your key mistake is assuming these people give a f*** about other people's lives.

I don't see where he assumes that...
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red sox 777
03/23/17 3:43:50 PM
#443:


The idea is that anything is better than Obamacare, so no matter what is in the bill, it would be an improvement. The problem is that passing a small improvement will likely make it a lot harder to pass a big improvement later.
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BowserCuffs
03/23/17 3:55:42 PM
#444:


red sox 777 posted...
The idea is that anything is better than Obamacare, so no matter what is in the bill, it would be an improvement. The problem is that passing a small improvement will likely make it a lot harder to pass a big improvement later.


What happens when "no matter what the bill is" is basically "Obamacare but with actually good stuff ripped out of it"?
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Not_an_Owl
03/23/17 4:07:04 PM
#445:


BowserCuffs posted...
red sox 777 posted...
The idea is that anything is better than Obamacare, so no matter what is in the bill, it would be an improvement. The problem is that passing a small improvement will likely make it a lot harder to pass a big improvement later.


What happens when "no matter what the bill is" is basically "Obamacare but with actually good stuff ripped out of it"?

http://content.newsinc.com/jpg/1459/24779720/4518170.jpg?t=1367337600

The promise was always "repeal and replace", not "repeal and replace with something better".
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BowserCuffs
03/23/17 4:11:49 PM
#446:


Not_an_Owl posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
red sox 777 posted...
The idea is that anything is better than Obamacare, so no matter what is in the bill, it would be an improvement. The problem is that passing a small improvement will likely make it a lot harder to pass a big improvement later.


What happens when "no matter what the bill is" is basically "Obamacare but with actually good stuff ripped out of it"?

http://content.newsinc.com/jpg/1459/24779720/4518170.jpg?t=1367337600

The promise was always "repeal and replace", not "repeal and replace with something better".


It's not even replacing it though - it's like "removing and replacing a statue" by breaking its nose off.
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Kenri
03/23/17 4:31:13 PM
#447:


red sox 777 posted...
The idea is that anything is better than Obamacare

this is an absurd premise, so we're right back to:

LordoftheMorons posted...
frankly, disgusting. They're playing with peoples' lives.

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BowserCuffs
03/23/17 5:34:23 PM
#448:


In a different sphere of politics, JonTron got removed from Yooka-Laylee, and the fragile snowflakes that defend him got pissy about it, the devs went "lolnope we're not dealing with this s***" and banned them, and now the snowflakes are whining about free speech.

I don't think anyone who whines about free speech unironically understands that it doesn't apply to private platforms.
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LordoftheMorons
03/23/17 5:36:35 PM
#449:


New CBO score is in for the AHCA:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/23/news/economy/obamacare-cbo-republican-bill/index.html

Still will lead to 24 million uninsured, but now cuts less than half as much debt as before
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SupremeZero
03/23/17 5:41:06 PM
#450:


BowserCuffs posted...
In a different sphere of politics, JonTron got removed from Yooka-Laylee, and the fragile snowflakes that defend him got pissy about it, the devs went "lolnope we're not dealing with this s***" and banned them, and now the snowflakes are whining about free speech.

I don't think anyone who whines about free speech unironically understands that it doesn't apply to private platforms.

Nobody who whines about free speech understands ANYTHING about free speech.
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