Current Events > FE Heroes General V2: My Kingdom For A Camilla (or any 5-star, really)

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Sad_Face posted...

legendarylemur posted...

Yeah Navarre was easy for me. I just had Hector kill off both ninjas and everybody else pick off the rest

You had the best character in the game, one that can counter at any distance, on your team. That is one immaculate strategy you've implemented chap.

I'm supporting Beruka in the gauntlet and the one person on my friends list that's on my side is giving me a Hector, and he's literally won 90% of my matches on his own. Lets me use the mostly useless Beruka to get those extra votes without worry.
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I'm sure I can beat Navarre without Hector though. I just don't see the point in making it harder for me. All that needs to be done is to drag them out anyways, and I can just pick them all off.
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I beat 3* Navarre with 5* Roy/Sharena/Julia, and 4* Klein. It was just very very hard.
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Even with normal amounts of sleep, I'm ranked 94 in Beruka's army. Shows that there aren't many people pushing for her. If I'd known that I'd jump up nearly 400 ranks just by using a few flags, I'd have saved more of them for the next round (assuming flags carry over) since everyone ranked 1 to 1000 gets the same amount of feathers. Oh well.

As for Navarre's map, it feels like it's the easiest of the GHB to break, but you still need very specific units to do it. I literally killed everyone but two units by the end of their first attack phase by positioning Kagero in the trees to the south while killing the axe user on my first turn. Everyone else that could reach her ran up and died to her during their phase.
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legendarylemur posted...

I'm sure I can beat Navarre without Hector though. I just don't see the point in making it harder for me. All that needs to be done is to drag them out anyways, and I can just pick them all off.

The issue is that you're downplaying how difficult the map is when your strategy is contingent on using Hector.
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Sad_Face posted...

legendarylemur posted...

I'm sure I can beat Navarre without Hector though. I just don't see the point in making it harder for me. All that needs to be done is to drag them out anyways, and I can just pick them all off.

The issue is that you're downplaying how difficult the map is when your strategy is contingent on using Hector.

Actually, this map really isn't hard. If you have a hard tank or a unit that can outright kill them all and survive, place it within the range of the 2 ninjas, there's one forest that does that, then it's pretty much a win. I can just use Triangle Adept Sharena to destroy Navarre, pick off the rest using literally anything.

The first part is the hardest, but I mean... you seriously just need to kill the ninjas and Navarre. It's seriously not that hard.

You can also lure them out using a flier and putting them on a safer spot or just kill anybody within range
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No you can't. I have looked up like 40 strategies and it's more than just using a tank otherwise I would have won by now.

The problem is the axe user needs to be killed and kept away from the tank, but the axe user is protected by a swarm of ninjas, so it has to be a ranged character or a counter character who can live at least one ninja attack

And you can't use Cavalry because of the trees

the only video I have seen to use non-counter, non-ranged strategy was one that used drag back shenanigans.

I lose the GHBs like every week though because I only have 1 team and I can't pull a ranged unit, it's fucking awful. I have yet to pull a decent mage, ninja, counter character or takumi and I've been pulling on them specifically.


So I'm building a setsuna from scratch right now to deal with future GHB

the problem is Setsuna has no defense

it's so annoying because I literally have the arguably the best unit in the game (+Str -Def Effie with inheritance skills) and I still can't beat these maps because they specifically put an effie killer in them >_>

like I know for a fact when they put in the Axe User with HAMMER, they put him there specifically to destroy Effie.


I need a ranged unit badly :/
I want Kagero

I use 2 units with reposition. It's possible for me to assassinate the Ass dagger user and reposition to drag that unit out. Reposition is one of the best skills in the game. It's better than drag back, but you need it on tanky units. I use it on Sharena and Hector, though I'm sure Roy can use it too, but shove is also useful in their own way.

This game's movement is ass, so movement skills are freaking overpowered. They'll always do more than the rallies
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kagero is a good Kreygasm
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legendarylemur posted...

I use 2 units with reposition. It's possible for me to assassinate the Ass dagger user and reposition to drag that unit out. Reposition is one of the best skills in the game. It's better than drag back, but you need it on tanky units. I use it on Sharena and Hector, though I'm sure Roy can use it too, but shove is also useful in their own way.

This game's movement is ass, so movement skills are freaking overpowered. They'll always do more than the rallies

Ok, so ignoring the fact you have Hector, you have all these skills transferred around. Triangle Adept Reposition Sharena? Players on the more casual end on the spectrum are not going to have anywhere close to the amount of SP needed to learn a high end skill, transfer it, then learn it again at a penalty.
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Frostshock posted...

legendarylemur posted...

I use 2 units with reposition. It's possible for me to assassinate the Ass dagger user and reposition to drag that unit out. Reposition is one of the best skills in the game. It's better than drag back, but you need it on tanky units. I use it on Sharena and Hector, though I'm sure Roy can use it too, but shove is also useful in their own way.

This game's movement is ass, so movement skills are freaking overpowered. They'll always do more than the rallies

Ok, so ignoring the fact you have Hector, you have all these skills transferred around. Triangle Adept Reposition Sharena? Players on the more casual end on the spectrum are not going to have anywhere close to the amount of SP needed to learn a high end skill, transfer it, then learn it again at a penalty.

It's Triangle Adept 2. I didn't think 3 was necessary, and Serena has it at 4*. I used some feathers to up the 3* to 4*. This is not hard to get. Reposition, a bunch of 3*s have that unlocked.

None of those are high end, and I barely even play the game. I just think smart and plan ahead
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I mean if you really have bad luck and are playing the game consistently you should be able to have a bunch of units at level 40 unless you've started recently. But really every time a ghb comes out that guy posts a video of him beating the ghb with all free 3 star units that everyone gets at level 40. It's certainly doable to watch his channel and just copy his strategy.

But if you think it's not worth it to get a free unit by leveling up "useless" units then I guess you don't want free units. But really the dude has used olivia and subaki every single time. Subaki is fucking broken with how high his defense is as a flier along with sapphire lance makes him invincible to reds.
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Yeah Subaki is a walking tank. I dunno about broken though
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Rainbow_Dashing posted...

I mean if you really have bad luck and are playing the game consistently you should be able to have a bunch of units at level 40 unless you've started recently. But really every time a ghb comes out that guy posts a video of him beating the ghb with all free 3 star units that everyone gets at level 40. It's certainly doable to watch his channel and just copy his strategy.

But if you think it's not worth it to get a free unit by leveling up "useless" units then I guess you don't want free units. But really the dude has used olivia and subaki every single time. Subaki is fucking broken with how high his defense is as a flier along with sapphire lance makes him invincible to reds.

never got Subaki. Maybe I should get him, I think he's a special map right now

legendarylemur posted...

Yeah Subaki is a walking tank. I dunno about broken though

For GHB's he's broken by being a near impenetrable wall. Other than GHB's he's absolute trash lol. He has a good speed though but terrible attack.

Milkman5 posted...

never got Subaki. Maybe I should get him, I think he's a special map right now

You should always be doing special maps and getting units for free. Dunno why you won't do them. Special maps are gonna be changing so these units may never appear again.
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I didn't do them all so I can use my stamina on something else. I had the inpression they would rotate the same characters for a while

I almost always have my stam full >.> I should be farming for SP, but it's just so grueling and stupid
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I have 3/4 of the spring people.

Just need Lucina now...

As far as units I don't yet have overall...

Bunnycina
Young Tiki
Minerva
Navvare
Lyn
Ninian
Rebecca
Linde
Elise
Takumi
Hinoka
Ryoma

And few others are what I am missing,
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how did you have orbs for the spring characters? :(

how much money did you spend to get 3

legendarylemur posted...

Sad_Face posted...

legendarylemur posted...

I'm sure I can beat Navarre without Hector though. I just don't see the point in making it harder for me. All that needs to be done is to drag them out anyways, and I can just pick them all off.

The issue is that you're downplaying how difficult the map is when your strategy is contingent on using Hector.

Actually, this map really isn't hard. If you have a hard tank or a unit that can outright kill them all and survive, place it within the range of the 2 ninjas, there's one forest that does that, then it's pretty much a win. I can just use Triangle Adept Sharena to destroy Navarre, pick off the rest using literally anything.

The first part is the hardest, but I mean... you seriously just need to kill the ninjas and Navarre. It's seriously not that hard.

You can also lure them out using a flier and putting them on a safer spot or just kill anybody within range

Again, you're making it sound like this map is a breeze. I had to inherit skills for my Effie to win this map because of the ninjas were too dangerous. It's one thing to tank the ninjas, which my Effie easily could, but it's a different story to kill them and my Effie couldn't one shot them so they could maneuver around her and go to kill over one of my more vulnerable characters. And the Axe enemy was designed as the perfect Effie counter as brought up by Milkman, she can't tank a hit from full health even at 5* +Def or +HP (he does 53 damage to my +Def 4* Effie) unless you have a Rally Defense or anything to raise her defense by 4 points. Remember, it just takes one loss to lose the map.

I'm not arguing that it's not doable, but this map is no slouch.

And just where are you putting that flier so that it could bait out the ninjas? And who's the flier so I can make it?
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I didn't use a flier. I just won again without Hector in a single try. I use Kagero or literally any ranged, I kill the axe rider, reposition with somebody, reposition that somebody, lure them out, kill everybody with the healer being the last to be killed, Sharena one shots Navarre, so

Reposition is op
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legendarylemur posted...

I use Kagero or literally any ranged,

damn it

oh you mean you didn't use ranged?

Maybe I might inherit reposition then

It could be Kagero or pretty much any red ranged or an archer that can one shot that axe wielder. The whole point is to lure them out. They don't attack you first anyways
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who should I give re-position to.

if my team is Effie, Roy, Camilla, Ninian. Or can I even use this team. What do.

Like I said, I have a Setsuna, but she's only a 4 star with a regular Brave Bow and no other skills

Camilla and Effie are good candidates. It's good for arena I guess but you might need a ranged for an actually pretty balanced team. Camilla having reposition is terrific. You'll skip a lot of forests and you can move a unit across a mountain. It rewards creativity. With 2 repositions, you can move a unit across the map 5 spaces and then 2 more space for that unit if it hasn't moved yet
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legendarylemur posted...

I didn't use a flier. I just won again without Hector in a single try. I use Kagero or literally any ranged, I kill the axe rider, reposition with somebody, reposition that somebody, lure them out, kill everybody with the healer being the last to be killed, Sharena one shots Navarre, so

Reposition is op

That's a pretty sweet strategy... and realize that's a specific (and no doubt creative) set up, which falls in line with what I said about it not being easy (I had to look up what reposition was). I did have a similar idea to that, I trained up a Donnel and I passed his Brave Lance, Drag Back, and Reciprocal Aid to Effie with the intention of oneshotting the Ninjas and and pulling back out of range with the protection of the forest. But as I went to learn the new skills, my hand slipped and I accidentally learned Reciprocal Aid instead of Drag Back.

Thank you RNGesus for at least giving me Ninian so I could finish the map.
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Should I really SP on it for Camilla.

Barte also as drag back. Should I give Camilla Reposition and Drag Back?

Both are good. I tend to almost always just use Reposition because it's pretty much +1 movement vs Drag Back, and you'd have these skills on units that can take a hit, and you'd wanna move units that just went up to assassinate a guy

Or wait.. Might be confusing drag back and draw back. Whatever is the one that drags an enemy back, it's pretty good, too
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Reposition is especially useful on fliers because they can position themselves on otherwise impassable terrain (mountains, rivers, etc.) and fling teammates over them.
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Oops, I'm an idiot. It's Knock Back that Barte has. which is awful

Barst, whatever that clown's name is

Yeah don't get Knockback. Honestly, I don't see any advantage of having it. 2 spaces and it'd be totally viable tho.

Oh, well I guess actually if you knockback and then you can have another melee attack the same person. Except if the enemy is clumped together, which is when you'd usually wanna do something like this, then you wouldn't be able to knock back
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Sad_Face posted...

legendarylemur posted...

Sad_Face posted...

legendarylemur posted...

I'm sure I can beat Navarre without Hector though. I just don't see the point in making it harder for me. All that needs to be done is to drag them out anyways, and I can just pick them all off.

The issue is that you're downplaying how difficult the map is when your strategy is contingent on using Hector.

Actually, this map really isn't hard. If you have a hard tank or a unit that can outright kill them all and survive, place it within the range of the 2 ninjas, there's one forest that does that, then it's pretty much a win. I can just use Triangle Adept Sharena to destroy Navarre, pick off the rest using literally anything.

The first part is the hardest, but I mean... you seriously just need to kill the ninjas and Navarre. It's seriously not that hard.

You can also lure them out using a flier and putting them on a safer spot or just kill anybody within range

Again, you're making it sound like this map is a breeze. I had to inherit skills for my Effie to win this map because of the ninjas were too dangerous. It's one thing to tank the ninjas, which my Effie easily could, but it's a different story to kill them and my Effie couldn't one shot them so they could maneuver around her and go to kill over one of my more vulnerable characters. And the Axe enemy was designed as the perfect Effie counter as brought up by Milkman, she can't tank a hit from full health even at 5* +Def or +HP (he does 53 damage to my +Def 4* Effie) unless you have a Rally Defense or anything to raise her defense by 4 points. Remember, it just takes one loss to lose the map.

I'm not arguing that it's not doable, but this map is no slouch.

And just where are you putting that flier so that it could bait out the ninjas? And who's the flier so I can make it?

Having a male Robin makes this map a cake walk. He can easily deal with the ninjas and Navarre on his own if you give him Triangle Adept. The only unit on the map that can touch him is the axe user. I had Tiki to deal with him.
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I have male robin. Level 20 4 star!

Should I level him? I might still have time

That or maybe you got a blue tome user of a high level that can inherit his tome
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legendarylemur posted...

That or maybe you got a blue tome user of a high level that can inherit his tome

I have Ursula and Reinhardt, but neither can be used because they are on horses
plus they have better tomes kinda
(gave Urusla Odin's tome)

I'm going to try the map with a 4 star level 38 lillina, effie, ninian and Camilla when my stamina comes back and I'll post my results

Yes, yes! I kneel before milady!
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All hail Camilla!
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