Board 8 > NCAA Characters III: Week 2 Results and Discussion!

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swirIdude
06/21/12 8:13:00 PM
#1:


It's the second week! Now maybe we'll see some clarity!

Top 25
1. Bowser (1)
2. Phoenix Wright (2)
3. Solid Snake (3)
4. Mario (4)
5. Luigi (6)
6. Kirby (7)
7. Miles Edgeworth (5)
8. Samus Aran (11)
9. Auron (10)
10. Big Boss (13)
11. Mega Man (12)
12. Charizard (17)
13. Kefka Palazzo (15)
14. Leon Kennedy (13)
15. Sonic the Hedgehog (8)
16. Knuckles the Echidna (NR)
17. Amaterasu (25)
18. Commander Shepard (20)
19. Squall Leonhart (18)
20. Vivi Orunitia (9)
T-21. Nathan Drake (NR)
T-21. Link (23)
23. Blastoise (NR)
24. Revolver Ocelot (NR)
25. Magus (NR)

Dropped off: Yoshi (16), Zero (19), Ezio (21), GLaDOS (22), Dick Gumshoe (24)

Also Recieiving Votes:
Dick Gumshoe
Yoshi
Pikachu
Zero
Sephiroth
Fox McCloud
Glados
Urdnot Wrex
Mewtwo
Rydia of Mist
Guybrush Threepwood
Zack Fair
Frog
Captain Falcon
Max Payne
Professor Layton
Ezio
The Boss
Cammy
Tommy Vercetti
Pikachu
Garrus Vakarian

Matches up soon.

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Maniac64
06/22/12 9:26:00 AM
#2:


tag

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swirIdude
06/22/12 10:10:00 AM
#3:


War will be posting the topics for the next couple of days.

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WarThaNemesis2
06/22/12 8:17:00 PM
#4:


Results will be coming later. I'm busy at the moment.

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TsunamiXXVIII
06/23/12 7:46:00 AM
#5:


Well, crap. Actually could've made a difference yesterday.

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ZeroSignal620
06/23/12 7:50:00 AM
#6:


I'll help out one time! Here are yesterday's results... (double checked on the closer matches just to be sure)

21 - Wheatley (Portal, No-Life 2: Effect 3) (1-1)
16 - Crimson Viper (Street Fighter, In-Conference DLC) (0-2)

21 - Zero (Mega Man X, In-Conference DLC) (0-2)
22 - Frog (Chrono Trigger, Ye Olde Squaresoft) (2-0)

16 - Zack Fair (Final Fantasy VII, Ye Olde Squaresoft) (1-1)
25 - Maya Fey (Ace Attorney, Metal Gear ACE) (2-0)

24 - Kingler (Pokemon, Nintendo Power) (1-1)
15 - Dad (Final Fantasy Legend 2, Ye Olde Squaresoft) (0-2)

21 - Vyse the Legend (Skies of Arcadia, Tales of Democracy, Ho!) (1-1)
19 - Professor Oak (Pokemon, Nintendo Power) (0-2)

20 - Etna (Disgaea, Shadow Bombplex) (0-2)
21 - #21 Link (Legend of Zelda, Smash Bros) (2-0)

8 - Dr. Nefarious (Ratchet & Clank, Game Jumping) (0-2)
33 - #10 Big Boss (Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear ACE) (2-0)

18 - Victor Sullivan (Uncharted, Playstation All-Stars) (0-2)
20 - Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4, Shadow Bombplex) (1-1)

11 - Rydia of Mist (Final Fantasy IV, Ye Olde Squaresoft) (1-1)
31 - #9 Auron (Final Fantasy X, Playstation All-Stars) (2-0)

20 - Mordin Solus (Mass Effect, No-Life 2: Effect 3) (2-0)
18 - Raiden (Metal Gear Solid 2, Metal Gear ACE) (1-1)

Notable things...
- Etna was beating Link by as many as 10 votes at one point
- Shadow Bombplex gets on the board as Naoto beats Victor
- After 7 days, Mass Effect has a record of 5-1!

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Ytterbium_70
06/23/12 7:57:00 AM
#7:


ZeroSignal620 posted...
20 - Mordin Solus (Mass Effect, No-Life 2: Effect 3) (2-0)
18 - Raiden (Metal Gear Solid 2, Metal Gear ACE) (1-1)


yessss

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pjbasis
06/23/12 9:24:00 AM
#8:


noooooo

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swordz9
06/23/12 9:25:00 AM
#9:


It's about time Shadow Bombplex had a winner.

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ZeroSignal620
06/23/12 10:04:00 AM
#10:


I figured after Naoto came close to beating Falco last week that a win would come sooner or later.

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RappinHobo9292
06/23/12 1:39:00 PM
#11:


16 - Zack Fair (Final Fantasy VII, Ye Olde Squaresoft) (1-1)
25 - Maya Fey (Ace Attorney, Metal Gear ACE) (2-0)


Joke contest

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Ytterbium_70
06/23/12 1:43:00 PM
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RappinHobo9292 posted...
16 - Zack Fair (Final Fantasy VII, Ye Olde Squaresoft) (1-1)
25 - Maya Fey (Ace Attorney, Metal Gear ACE) (2-0)


Joke contest


Ewwwww

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TheArkOfTurus
06/23/12 1:46:00 PM
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From: Ytterbium_70 | #007
ZeroSignal620 posted...
20 - Mordin Solus (Mass Effect, No-Life 2: Effect 3) (2-0)
18 - Raiden (Metal Gear Solid 2, Metal Gear ACE) (1-1)


yessss


Not a big fan of most of the other results, but that saves the day.

Also, Link/Etna making Delita look reasonably strong. That's nice to see.

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swordz9
06/23/12 1:51:00 PM
#14:


Oh Maya won. Didn't even see that. Good stuff though I only played the first PW so I don't know if she's even in the others or anything.

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vcharon
06/23/12 1:58:00 PM
#15:


Early season Ace Attorney domination probably likely with a result like that.

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PlasmaKappa
06/23/12 2:22:00 PM
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Ytterbium_70 posted...
RappinHobo9292 posted...
16 - Zack Fair (Final Fantasy VII, Ye Olde Squaresoft) (1-1)
25 - Maya Fey (Ace Attorney, Metal Gear ACE) (2-0)


Joke contest


Ewwwww


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LeonhartFour
06/23/12 2:58:00 PM
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Only Squall can stop Mass Effect, clearly.

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ZeroSignal620
06/23/12 10:08:00 PM
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16 - Sniper Wolf (Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear ACE) (0-2)
21 - Lightning (Final Fantasy XIII, Playstation All-Stars) (1-1)

13 - Laharl (Disgaea, Shadow Bombplex) (0-2)
19 - Nathan Drake (Uncharted, Playstation All-Stars) (2-0)

16 - Mike Haggar (Final Fight, In-Conference DLC) (0-2)
23 - Eevee (Pokemon, Nintendo Power) (2-0)

18 - Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect, No-Life 2: Effect 3) (1-1)
16 - Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3, Shadow Bombplex) (0-2)

17 - Yu Narukami (Persona 4, Shadow Bombplex) (0-2)
19 - Pikachu (Pokemon, Nintendo Power) (2-0)

11 - Prinny (Disgaea, Shadow Bombplex) (0-2)
25 - Ike Griel (Fire Emblem, Smash Bros) (2-0)

13 - Kanji Tatsumi (Persona 4, Shadow Bombplex) (0-2)
22 - #25 Magus (Chrono Trigger, Ye Olde Squaresoft) (2-0)

18 - Sly Cooper (Sly Cooper, Game Jumping) (1-1)
15 - Kyle Hyde (Hotel Dusk, Nintendo Power) (0-2)

24 - Ezio Auditore da Firenze (Assassin's Creed II, Playstation All-Stars) (1-1)
10 - Alicia Melchiott (Valkryia Chronicles, Tales of Democracy, Ho!) (1-1)

18 - Recette Lemongrass (Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale, Tales of Democracy, Ho!) (1-1)
17 - N (Pokemon, Nintendo Power) (0-2)

Notable facts
- Yu was beating Pikachu 10-1 at one point, only to have Pikachu go on a 19-7 run to pull off the win
- With Tali's win, Mass Effect is only the second series in this contest where all characters have a win, the first being Metal Gear Solid (in terms of great amounts of characters in the contest)
- Ezio performs well after being upset last week
- Shadow Bombplex is 1-18 right now.

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TheArkOfTurus
06/23/12 10:22:00 PM
#19:


Fun fact: Pokemon are currently 8-1, humans from Pokemon games are currently 0-5.

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swordz9
06/23/12 10:23:00 PM
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TheArkOfTurus posted...
Fun fact: Pokemon are currently 8-1, humans from Pokemon games are currently 0-5.

Yikes.

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LeonhartFour
06/23/12 10:24:00 PM
#21:


LOL Kingler

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LinkMarioSamus
06/24/12 2:52:00 AM
#22:


Have gamers' tastes gone completely under the crapper to allow an MGS character to lose to Lightning?
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pjbasis
06/24/12 4:10:00 AM
#23:


From: LinkMarioSamus | #022
Have gamers' tastes gone completely under the crapper to allow an MGS character to lose to Lightning?


lmao I kno rite

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ZeroSignal620
06/24/12 5:23:00 AM
#24:


Slight correction on my part; Ace Attorney is the other series with a large quantity of characters who all have a win, not MGS

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Ytterbium_70
06/24/12 6:28:00 AM
#25:


LeonhartFour posted...
LOL Kingler


A chracter I gave a slight nod to to vs. a character that only got in because I noticed he had 2 votes. That's bizzare.

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LeonhartFour
06/24/12 10:59:00 AM
#26:


Hey LMS

Your second-hand opinions still aren't welcome

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th3l3fty
06/24/12 11:04:00 AM
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From: Ytterbium_70 | #025
A chracter I gave a slight nod to to vs. a character that only got in because I noticed he had 2 votes. That's bizzare.


no, Dad got in after people convinced swirl to let him in

he was initially excluded on the basis of having a generic name

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Ytterbium_70
06/24/12 11:23:00 AM
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th3l3fty posted...
From: Ytterbium_70 | #025
A chracter I gave a slight nod to to vs. a character that only got in because I noticed he had 2 votes. That's bizzare.


no, Dad got in after people convinced swirl to let him in

he was initially excluded on the basis of having a generic name


EDIT: Whoops, another Ytter-ish post

I could see why Dad would confuse people. How many games could you find Dad in?

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th3l3fty
06/24/12 11:44:00 AM
#29:


there are many Dads

there is only one DAD

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Ytterbium_70
06/24/12 11:50:00 AM
#30:


I was speaking of the name, but you're absolutely right

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vcharon
06/24/12 2:51:00 PM
#31:


Too bad swirl was convinced, we're a bit heavy on the fodder this year. How many characters have ever gone winless in these? If the total is low we could surpass that total with this game alone.

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TheArkOfTurus
06/24/12 3:19:00 PM
#32:


Winless characters usually fight each other in rivalry matches, no? Generally pretty rare, IIRC.

None of the new fodder characters can outmatch the legendary Jake Peril, anyway!

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SuorGenoveffa
06/24/12 3:29:00 PM
#33:


I honestly feel that the nomination phase should be more strict. I mean, I got to test a couple of characters that I like thanks to it being very abusable, but some of the characters that got in really baffle me.

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vcharon
06/24/12 3:30:00 PM
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My problem with it is a lot of top level stuff gets left out in favor of crap a few people want to see lose abysmally each match. A lot of more interesting matches get sacrificed on the whims of a few people with obscure taste and it's lame.

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SuorGenoveffa
06/24/12 3:43:00 PM
#35:


Had I known that none of my characters had a chance I would've nominated stuff that could actually do well <_<.

For example, I love Crimson Viper but seriously, why is she in and Ryu, Ken, Bison, Chunners and the characters that actually matter are out? Why Kingler? I'm honestly against filling the roster with random pokémon despite loving the franchise, and Kingler is the very definition of "random" because most people don't really care about it.

And obviously the RPG fodder, but the board seems to support that kind of stuff to some extent so what do I know?

I'm not talking about taste here, I like C. Viper more than, say, Ken. It's actually trying to nominate stuff that makes some sense.

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th3l3fty
06/24/12 3:44:00 PM
#36:


Kingler is not random

random is like

Seel

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WarThaNemesis2
06/24/12 3:44:00 PM
#37:


We were heavy on RPG fodder well before Dad got back in. At least he's from a new game to the contest (or series depending on how technical you want to be).

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WarThaNemesis2
06/24/12 3:45:00 PM
#38:


Kingler rules, but he's still random.

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th3l3fty
06/24/12 3:47:00 PM
#39:


Ash has a Kingler in the anime it's not completely random

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SuorGenoveffa
06/24/12 3:50:00 PM
#40:


Most of Ash's pokémon have had more screen time than Kingler.

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th3l3fty
06/24/12 3:55:00 PM
#41:


I'm just saying Kingler is middle of the pack in randomness for RBY Pokemon

(I agree that it's a wasted spot but OH WELL)

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vcharon
06/24/12 4:07:00 PM
#42:


Middle of the pack for 100+ characters is random by general terms. Lots of stuff in this one is; IV really needs better quality control.

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LeonhartFour
06/24/12 7:19:00 PM
#43:


Jake Peril was the only character who went winless in NCAA Characters II. I think we had a couple of Dynasty Warriors go winless in the first one, but we would've finished with only one of those had I actually finished the season.

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ZeroSignal620
06/24/12 9:54:00 PM
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22 - Prince of Persia (Prince of Persia, Game Jumping) (2-0)
11 - Dunban (Xenoblade, Tales of Democracy, Ho!) (0-2)

18 - Toad (Super Mario Bros, Game Jumping) (0-2)
22 - Chie Satonaka (Persona 4, Shadow Bombplex) (1-1)

29 - #16 Knuckles the Echidna (Sonic, Game Jumping) (2-0)
11 - Cloud of Darkness (Final Fantasy III, Ye Olde Squaresoft) (0-2)

20 - Urdnot Wrex (Mass Effect, No-Life 2: Effect 3) (2-0)
18 - #15 Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic, Game Jumping) (1-1)

17 - Falco Lombardi (Star Fox, Smash Bros) (1-1)
20 - Manny Calavera (Grim Fandango, Tales of Democracy, Ho!) (2-0)

22 - #24 Revolver Ocelot (Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear ACE) (2-0)
15 - Guybrush Threepwood (Monkey Island, Tales of Democracy, Ho!) (0-2)

15 - Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes, Shadow Bombplex) (0-2)
21 - Yuri Lowell (Tales of Vesperia, Tales of Democracy, Ho!) (2-0)

27 - #20 Vivi Orunitia (Final Fantasy IX, Playstation All-Stars) (1-1)
9 - Shulk (Xenoblade, Tales of Democracy, Ho!) (0-2)

13 - Pascal (Tales of Graces, Tales of Democracy, Ho!) (0-2)
19 - Tidus (Final Fantasy X, Playstation All-Stars) (1-1)

16 - Rita Mordio (Tales of Vesperia, Tales of Democracy, Ho!) (1-1)
18 - Cecil Harvey (Final Fantasy IV, Ye Olde Squaresoft) (2-0)

Notable Facts
- Urdnot Wrex might be Top 25-bound next week. Sonic's appearance on the top 25 might be in jeopardy
- Shadow Bombplex gets its second win of the season!
- Manny's still undefeated, awww yeah

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swordz9
06/24/12 9:55:00 PM
#45:


Rita should have beaten Cecil, but that result is expected. Cecil so damn boring.

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vcharon
06/24/12 10:17:00 PM
#46:


Wrex has impressed, he'll be on my ballot (again).

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swirIdude
06/24/12 10:21:00 PM
#47:


With so many video game characters out there, there's a higher chance of more fodder entrants. Unfortunately we got the short end of the stick this year. I can't just make the field myself because I haven't played every game and would definitely miss some strong characters. Also, some people really want to see a character they like for the course of a season, even if they aren't going to be tourney bound. It's a tough situation.

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TheArkOfTurus
06/24/12 11:09:00 PM
#48:


Wrex is a near lock for top #25, Garrus might make it too (we'll have to see his next match-up, but that 28-10 win over Pascal is looking a lot better now). Happy to see the Mass Effect appreciation.

I expected my two favorite characters (Manny and Mordin) to be fodder. Instead they're 4-0 and seem like they're at least top 64 worthy. Happy to see this too!

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LeonhartFour
06/24/12 11:10:00 PM
#49:


Grim Fandango was unbeaten for a little while in NCAA Games II as well, and even earned some top 25 consideration from people who won't be named for a while because of it!

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KCF0107
06/24/12 11:11:00 PM
#50:


I had Wrex in both of my ballots. He will certainly appear on a third

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