Board 8 > Go.See.Avengers. [no spoilers ITT, just praise]

(+) Yeah! (+)

Take your mother to see it for mothers day!

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Go see this billion dollar movie!

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Saw this movie today. As someone who is hard to please and very picky about things, I'm telling you that this movie more than lives up to the hype. If you haven't watched it, watch it.

If you can only watch one more movie in your life, let it be this.

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Already planned my 2nd and 3rd viewings.

Great movie.

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Did you just see it for the first time today, Maniac?

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On Saturday.

I could never get the time and people I kept planning with dropped out on me. Finally just said "screw it" and went to the first show on Saturday.

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If I had have seen it so many times already I'd definitely be considering going by myself if I couldn't get people to come with. It is just too good a movie to allow yourself not to see.

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Just got back from seeing it my second time, this time in IMAX 3D (first time, regular). Awesome movie, and that 1st post credit scene - WOW.

WOW! Everyone will die, for death comes for all of us. The end is near.

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Isn't it SO much better in 3D?

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That was a very enjoyable movie. Certainly the best superhero movie I've seen.

Stark got on my nerves a bit. Which is a bit odd, since he's the character that seems the most suited to Whedon-esque dialog. Guess it was just a bit much for me? Loved the rest of the cast though.

We were the only ones in the theatre... probably would be more fun with the entire theatre laughing at certain scenes (see: any Hulk scene).

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So many great "theater moments"

The only problem was when the theater laughed over a line that Hulk says after doing awesome things. (you know the one)

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Watched it last week. Yeah, it was an enjoyable experience.

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Since this seems to be the de facto Avengers topic i'll post this here.

Did anyone else think that whole battle at the end felt like a really great Buffy season finale, but with the Marvel superheroes instead of the Sunnydale gang? And I mean that in the best possible way, I think Joss's ability to do that kind of story is one of the best things he brought to the movie.

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So good.

After how bad Thor was and Captain America was good but underwhelming, this was a real treat.

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From: MrGreenonion | #164
Did anyone else think that whole battle at the end felt like a really great Buffy season finale, but with the Marvel superheroes instead of the Sunnydale gang? And I mean that in the best possible way, I think Joss's ability to do that kind of story is one of the best things he brought to the movie.

I'm surprised you said this rather than..

<_<


>_>




BUFFY SPOILAS







Mentioning the fact that the Avengers movies BEGINS the same way Buffy ENDS.

A huge crater forms taking out Sunnydale.
A huge crater forms taking out the Shield facility.










But aside from that and from Whedon being amazing all around I wouldn't say like there was too much effort put into Buff/Avengers connections.

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Damn, I liked it but enough but not nearly as much as like... everyone else on Earth sans a few lawlcritics, it seems. I keep reading all these 'I don't like superhero movies but I loved this' posts on the internet and originally they gave me lots of hope going into it (I'm the same way is what I'm saying) but when I walked out I shrugged and gave it a 7.

Yeah, yeah, inb4 a bunch of hate posts. I'm not trying to be negative, I'm not trying to be contrarian... I thought it was worth the money spent to see it once, mind you, but I'd much rather see a great many flicks I've seen. o_O

Nothing's for everyone, I suppose.

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I guess some movies really aren't for everyone but I honestly thought this movie would be as close as it would come.


What did you feel like the movie was missing that could have bumped it up a notch in your opinion?

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Kick ass movie is kick ass.
There's not much else that can be said about it. :D

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Forceful_Dragon posted...
I guess some movies really aren't for everyone but I honestly thought this movie would be as close as it would come.


What did you feel like the movie was missing that could have bumped it up a notch in your opinion?

Well, when the Whedon shined through it pretty much inarguably shined through, but I could have used a bit more character development over quite how much action there was. I'm not arguing with anyone that the action wasn't top notch but I think I just kinda prefer movies with a bit more talking in them. >_>

Like, that whole sequence when the cast is turned against one-another in the room is very classic Whedon, with the rising and falling of various characters' opinions and then Nick Fury shows up and things just escalate more and more... that's superb. But I feel like it was right around there in the movie that I perked up and started thinking it was good and not just decent. I could have used more talking scenes and less explosions. I just know while typing that most people here are gonna be like 'XFD what' but I never said I was hot on the genre to begin with...!

Loki's actor was great but for every moment I loved the character there was something I wasn't especially keen on. It seemed like Whedon was torn between delivering the kind of script he's known for and the sort of cheesy schlock that (other) people love from the superhero genre. I don't mean any disrespect when I say that, it's just how I view scenes where villains control or convince a bunch of random help-us-superheroes civilians to bow down while they talk about how we all need to follow, etc.

Speaking of civilians, it's a superhero cliche that I always find myself rolling my eyes at when a bunch of hapless civilians bumble about until Los Superheroes show up on the scene and save them and then they're all doe-eyed and whatnot. I get it, and I'm not saying I can think up a way to change that without messing with the fabric of the genre, but I always feel like I'm supposed to feel like I'm one of those hapless civilians because my childhood dream of watching my favorite superheroes on the big screen has come true and since that doesn't apply to me I just sorta roll my eyes the whole time because it's all so predictable.

Some other things... when Nick Fury pulled out the portable rocket launcher I would have changed it so that he tapped into the comm in that jet and had a Big Damn Speech (you know the sort) instead of just having another explosion. Either way I'll drool over Samuel L. Jackson's badassery; I don't need to be reminded it's an action movie and frequently little else with another big-ass flame. That command ship has suffered enough!

I could go on, but this is probably so terribly offensive to most people who might skim it that I'll stop for B8's collective sake. If there's one thing to learn from it, this just isn't JZ's preferred genre. Again, it was good for what it was though and it was money well spent... once.

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Oh, one more thing. The scene where the Hulk owns Loki is absolute masterpiece storytelling and I really appreciate it.

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Well said =P

One of my favorite things was how well the movie paid off in terms of action.



I mean look at Green Lantern (but seriously, don't >_<'' ). In GL the "big action sequence" was incredibly short, fairly obvious and almost ALL of the awesome stuff had been given away in previews. The movie was sort of cumbersome even leading up to the climax, but once it got there I was expecting something and it just didn't deliver.


Avengers on the other hand brought everything together nicely and then delivers a HUGE scene of ass kickery. My first time watching when the movie was about halfway in I was idly wondering if the movie would be able to keep up with the pace it had been building at so far. My concerns were completely unfounded ^_^

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Oh yeah, as far as build-up it really worked. I was expecting the action to end much sooner in both of the film's biggest action events (and not in a bad way) and found myself wondering by the tail end of the climax how even Marvel came up with enough money to keep things going and going and going, both visually and creatively.

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I thought it was pretty clear from Loki's chats with Thor that even he didn't entirely buy what he was spewing, but it was a case of roll with it or Thanos would kick his ass

Also one part thinking nothing of humans ("You think you're above them?" "Well, yes.")

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DeathChicken posted...
I thought it was pretty clear from Loki's chats with Thor that even he didn't entirely buy what he was spewing, but it was a case of roll with it or Thanos would kick his ass

Also one part thinking nothing of humans ("You think you're above them?" "Well, yes.")

That's fair, yeah. In general Loki was great -- actually, funny segway here but my girlfriend got dragged along to most of the individual Marvel flicks leading up to The Avengers by a superhero-obsessed friend of hers and well, I mean, she's always loved Norse legend so when she got back from Thor telling me how great Loki was I largely shrugged it off... so I was pleasantly surprised to see how great Loki was overall.

Probably gonna end up watching Thor now, she says there isn't much to expect out of the plot in that one but between Loki and how pretty the movie is...!

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From: Jeff Zero | #170
Speaking of civilians, it's a superhero cliche that I always find myself rolling my eyes at when a bunch of hapless civilians bumble about until Los Superheroes show up on the scene and save them and then they're all doe-eyed and whatnot. I get it, and I'm not saying I can think up a way to change that without messing with the fabric of the genre, but I always feel like I'm supposed to feel like I'm one of those hapless civilians because my childhood dream of watching my favorite superheroes on the big screen has come true and since that doesn't apply to me I just sorta roll my eyes the whole time because it's all so predictable.

See, the only time this was relevant was during the Captain America scene, which was absolute perfection. The entire point of Captain America is that he was this hero way back in the past that everyone idolized, and the only hero back then. So the point of that entire scene was to show off that Captain America is still that beacon and icon of true heroism. I mean, everyone still thinks Captain America is dead and gone, and that's why it's so effective.

"I can't believe I was saved by Captain America!"

That part warmed my heart, honestly, especially since Captain America felt like he didn't have a place in this world from the beginning of the movie.

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Well, I'm happy for him but I didn't feel like there was enough non-action-y material in The Avengers to really get me to feel for him much as a character. I felt for his no-nonsense approach to things (although I agreed with the modern-day heroes more, personally) and I felt for whatever was happening in those flashbacks the film opened him on but his out-of-place thing only got me so far, personally.

I'm unfamiliar with basically all these characters outside the movie, mind you.

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If you go into Thor with the foresight that you are going to be facing a mythology story, it's great. It's a mythology story heavily influenced by Shakespearean tropes. The director is Kenneth Branagh, who is known for dedicating most of his life to doing Shakespeare plays and movies, and winning awards for them, so they picked a good actor to show that off.

So while people will say that the love at first sight stuff is lame, it's Shakespeare.

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
If you go into Thor with the foresight that you are going to be facing a mythology story, it's great. It's a mythology story heavily influenced by Shakespearean tropes. The director is Kenneth Branagh, who is known for dedicating most of his life to doing Shakespeare plays and movies, and winning awards for them, so they picked a good actor to show that off.

So while people will say that the love at first sight stuff is lame, it's Shakespeare.

Haha, that's fair, yeah. I'll keep that in mind. I'm actually loosely familiar with Branagh's work, come to think of it.

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Yeah, Branagh is a fantastic director, and I was really excited he was announced as the director for Thor because I was like "Oh, this story is right up his alley." Hell, just seeing how he really makes you feel for Loki is perfect since Loki's entire thing is totally Shakespearean. I feel bad when people think Thor sucked, mostly because it's a story based on mythology, which means the elements are archaic in nature. But they do such a good job with it.

I dunno, I just really f***ing loved Thor. lol

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To my dearest JZ:


I understand that this movie was very explosion friendly and (at times) exposition light, but I think this is hugely offset by the fact that most of the main cast had their own movie leading into this one. We already know the characters and their motivations.

We already sat through 2 hours of them showing us "Okay this is who we are" and so it seems justifiable to have them, in The Avengers, show us "yes, this is who I am still" in brief rather than completely reintroducing themselves.

And considering that they ALSO had to bring in and flesh out two main characters who did not have their own movie lead ins I would say this aspect of the movie was one of the more well done. It didn't feel like anyone got shunned and it never felt like anyone particular had too much of the spotlight. I would say it felt like Stark had the most face time, but still only had a shade more than the rest. And then if changes were made to increase development (or in the case of 4 Avengers, re-development) of any one character it would have to be mirrored by more time for all the rest which doesn't seem practical.

But even as I say this I don't think it's necessary to watch all the lead-in movies for Avengers to be a great experience. Obviously it helps with the development, but the characters still had enough "this is who I am time" and the fact that you KNOW they've already had 2 hours establishing that then it shouldn't really be a bitter pill to swallow.

From: Jeff Zero | #170
Speaking of civilians, it's a superhero cliche that I always find myself rolling my eyes at when a bunch of hapless civilians bumble about

I know we would all love to believe that we personally would respond perfectly to a crisis of some magnitude, but can you really imagine what would be going down in New York if that stuff really did happen?

I think video games have prepared most of us to get our **** together and at the very least not make matters worse for the people trying to handle it, and at the very best we'd be doing something proactive like trying to stem the panic of others and shepherd people out of the way.

Now are you referring only to the civilian civilians or also to the cop who wasn't going to take orders from Cap at first?

I would have changed it so that he tapped into the comm in that jet and had a Big Damn Speech

The council had already given the override code and called for the launch. Nick Fury might be a bad enough dude to directly defy the council but you can bet that he's the only one. I don't see anything short of incapacitating the jet as being effective at all in that situation. We got to see some nice speeches from him, especially after [spoilers] (you know the one), but they were geared towards getting the Avengers to come together and would not work as well on "random pilot guy" who was following superior orders.


Glad you enjoyed it the one time at least. Since you aren't typically a fan of the genre it still mean's something that it was a worthwhile trip for you. Did you see it in 3D or 2D?

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Holy crap by the time I got all that ready a bunch of people have posted in the topic again. Was not expecting <_<

From: Jeff Zero | #173
and found myself wondering by the tail end of the climax how even Marvel came up with enough money to keep things going and going and going, both visually and creatively.

100% this. Part of me felt like it HAD to be coming down pretty soon if only because that's how every other movie ever seemed to work.

And there were some things seen in the trailer of the big fight, but they didn't really spoil anything or accurately convey just how big the fight was. Like we knew they'd be fighting the grunts, and we knew there would be ONE flying whale thing. But then they get through that and we hear "Send the rest" and the fight is ON all over again. So much delivery.

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Thor is so damn amazing of a movie for the Shakesperian interaction between Thor, Loki and Odin as a big screwed up Asgardian family that all the parts of it that do *not* revolve around that kind of suffer in comparison

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Heh, thanks for the detailed response, yo! If I weren't checking out in like five minutes to get some homework done before my friends come over I'd respond in further detail. Maybe later!

I was kind of including the cop scene though, that just came across to me as a Catch-22. It was nice to see someone 'normal' trying to take charge but the dialogue exchange there was pretty obvious from the outset. Watching the cop repeat everything said to him down to a tee was kind of a neat twist though; usually I see them go '...okay' in a 'I-just-wet-my-pants' kind of way and I find that more boring.

I saw it in 2D. I kinda wanted to see it in 3D since I've never seen a movie in 3D before but the vote was 5-4 in favor of 2D. D:

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damn that sucks (regarding to 3D).

This is THE best I have ever scene 3D look. So many of the scenes were just SHOT with 3D in mind as though they were constantly planning 'okay we can put this in the foreground' or something to just give a real sense of visual depth. But not in a "lets over emphasize the fact that we're using 3D way" and in more of a natural "this is how 3D is supposed to look" way.



And yeah I'm taking off for church in a couple of minutes so just get back to this whenevers. I do think the fact that Captain had a really solid movie of his own would go a long way towards establishing his character for you.

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Alright, I'll watch that one too.

That's pretty much what I remember reading from the earlier posts of this very topic of yours, was the recommendation to watch it in 3D. I remember basically saying what I read here to my friends but a couple of them get motion sick easily.

I might go see it in 3D while it's still out... >_>

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Oh, one more thing. The scene where the Hulk owns Loki is absolute masterpiece storytelling and I really appreciate it.

Really? Now there's a scene I thought was hugely overrated - sure, it's funny, but it's not that great. I thought a lot of other moments were funnier.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
Oh, one more thing. The scene where the Hulk owns Loki is absolute masterpiece storytelling and I really appreciate it.

Really? Now there's a scene I thought was hugely overrated - sure, it's funny, but it's not that great. I thought a lot of other moments were funnier.

I just appreciated the big middle finger toward the routine villain speech crap. I was laughing at it for possibly not the same reasons as much of the rest of the theater. It wasn't the silliness of the violence, nor the exaggeration, nor the... anything like that. Mostly I was just laughing at how Whedon was like 'lolno' at his own work.

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From: Mr Lasastryke | #187
Really? Now there's a scene I thought was hugely overrated - sure, it's funny, but it's not that great. I thought a lot of other moments were funnier.

I just really liked that scene because of Loki.

From: DeathChicken | #174
I thought it was pretty clear from Loki's chats with Thor that even he didn't entirely buy what he was spewing, but it was a case of roll with it or Thanos would kick his ass

Also one part thinking nothing of humans ("You think you're above them?" "Well, yes.")

That says it pretty well I think. Loki considers himself innately superior to everyone on the planet except Thor and that is what makes the scene for me. Seeing him finally cowed by the strength of a "human". Albeit a human of the green-rage-monster variety.



And now its church time kbai

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Loki's face after he got smashed was completely hilarious.

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From: Forceful_Dragon | #166
But aside from that and from Whedon being amazing all around I wouldn't say like there was too much effort put into Buff/Avengers connections.

I didn't mean direct references put in intentionally, just that it felt a lot like a Buffy final battle in a way that a big final battle by another director probably wouldn't. I dunno, the pacing or something. Also the aforementioned Hulk/Loki scene was the kind of thing I could TOTALLY see happening on Buffy. In fact I am pretty sure the whole "villian gets clobbered mid-Big Speech" thing DID happen on Buffy at least once (though probably not with a MAIN villain).

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Spoilers

This movie is AMAZING

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Wee

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Someone on this board hasn't seen Avengers yet. I'm sure of it.

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And they will read this topic.

And then say to themselves.

"I need to see Avengers"

And then.

They will.

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Wheee about to watch it 3d IMAX

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Watched it in IMAX 3D the first time about a week ago. Going to watch it in regular 2D today for the second time.

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Dr_Football posted...

Wheee about to watch it 3d IMAX

Grats

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Well that was awesome

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Change of plans. Instead of seeing it in 2D earlier, we've gone to see it in regular 3D (no IMAX) later. Waiting for it to start now, and they haven't even gotten to the previews yet. They need to hurry up!!! D:

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