Board 8 > Tipping is still the dumbest practice that has ever existed.

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barreldragon88
04/19/12 11:34:00 AM
#51:


From: Zachnorn | #050
I used to pay double the sales tax for tips, which, when I started doing that, came out to 16.5%. Now that my sales tax went as high as 10.75%, I cut that out and keep it at 17%.


Wow, where do you live that has such a high tax rate?

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foolm0ron
04/19/12 11:34:00 AM
#52:


My point is:
More expensive plates DO NOT imply better service

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tyder21
04/19/12 11:35:00 AM
#53:


I mostly tip 20% as long as the server didn't mess up. Then I'll usually drop to 15%.

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My Immortal
04/19/12 11:36:00 AM
#54:


Where in the world is 10.75% sales tax?

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My Immortal
04/19/12 11:37:00 AM
#55:


More expensive plates DO NOT imply better service

That's true. Yet 15% of your meal is standard for average service. So if you pick to go somewhere that has more expensive meals, you are expected to tip higher. It's how it works, so stop *****ing about it.

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KingButz
04/19/12 11:40:00 AM
#56:


The server gets a smaller tip if you bought less food from them. There is a reason that the server always tries to sell you deserts and appetizers... They want you to buy more and thus give a bigger tip.

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My Immortal
04/19/12 11:41:00 AM
#57:


There is a reason that the server always tries to sell you deserts and appetizers... They want you to buy more and thus give a bigger tip.

Ding ding ding.

Same things with drinks. Servers don't like when you get water, because they are not getting anything for that work.

Part of the reason employers like tipping, if they paid their servers the same base rate, there would be no incentive for them to up-sell.

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Zachnorn
04/19/12 11:55:00 AM
#58:


Wow, where do you live that has such a high tax rate?

Pico Rivera, CA. South Gate also had that tax. It was a temporary tax hike, it is "only" 9.75% (EDIT: just checked, that's correct) since July 2011. What a bargain!

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Ayuyu
04/19/12 11:55:00 AM
#59:


From: My Immortal | #054
Where in the world is 10.75% sales tax?


We have 15% sales tax here in Quebec :(

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My Immortal
04/19/12 11:57:00 AM
#60:


Yeesh. Western NY had 8.75% and I thought that was bad. Now I live in Wisconsin and have 5.5%, much better.

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foolm0ron
04/19/12 12:00:00 PM
#61:


From: My Immortal | #055
so stop *****ing about it.


Oh, okay

Have fun arguing with this fake image of myself that you have created

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foolm0ron
04/19/12 12:00:00 PM
#62:


From: Ayuyu | #059
We have 15% sales tax here in Quebec :(


Yeah but you have free healthcare

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Zachnorn
04/19/12 12:00:00 PM
#63:


California is very expensive, with everything. Sales tax had been 8.25% since the 90s here. I actually wish it would go back to that, even though it seems high relative to taxes in other states.

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Ayuyu
04/19/12 12:02:00 PM
#64:


From: foolm0ron | #062
Yeah but you have free healthcare


They have free healthcare in the other provinces too but they're not as taxed.

Quebec's government is so terrible, money is managed terribly.

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SubDeity
04/19/12 12:02:00 PM
#65:


Since people seem unaware of it, workers who earn tips aren't dependent on them to make more than 2 bucks an hour. If a worker's tips fall below the minimum wage the employer has to make up for it, so they still earn at least the ordinary minimum wage.

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ExThaNemesis
04/19/12 12:03:00 PM
#66:


I tip 15-20% or more usually even if the server messes up, as long as they're nice and friendly but that's because I'm not a joke human lol.

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LeonhartFour
04/19/12 12:07:00 PM
#67:


SubDeity posted...
Since people seem unaware of it, workers who earn tips aren't dependent on them to make more than 2 bucks an hour. If a worker's tips fall below the minimum wage the employer has to make up for it, so they still earn at least the ordinary minimum wage.

This is true, but you won't be working there long if your employer is constantly picking up the slack.

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muddersmilk
04/19/12 12:08:00 PM
#68:


The Mana Sword posted...
Thought this was about cow tipping.

You know that isn't actually a real thing right?

Cows sleep lying down.

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KingButz
04/19/12 12:08:00 PM
#69:


From: Zachnorn | #063
California is very expensive, with everything. Sales tax had been 8.25% since the 90s here. I actually wish it would go back to that, even though it seems high relative to taxes in other states.


wat

I've lived in California most of my life and up until a few years ago we had 7.75% (in riverside/san diego counties)

Now it's just 8.75%, at least everywhere in San Diego county that I've been.

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LeonhartFour
04/19/12 12:10:00 PM
#70:


muddersmilk posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
Thought this was about cow tipping.

You know that isn't actually a real thing right?

Cows sleep lying down.


Yeah, and next thing you know, you'll be telling me girls don't have pillow fights in their underwear when there are no guys around. You're not fooling me!

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muddersmilk
04/19/12 12:11:00 PM
#71:


LeonhartFour posted...
muddersmilk posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
Thought this was about cow tipping.

You know that isn't actually a real thing right?

Cows sleep lying down.

Yeah, and next thing you know, you'll be telling me girls don't have pillow fights in their underwear when there are no guys around. You're not fooling me!


Dang, too smart for me.

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KingButz
04/19/12 12:12:00 PM
#72:


From: LeonhartFour | #067
SubDeity posted...
Since people seem unaware of it, workers who earn tips aren't dependent on them to make more than 2 bucks an hour. If a worker's tips fall below the minimum wage the employer has to make up for it, so they still earn at least the ordinary minimum wage.

This is true, but you won't be working there long if your employer is constantly picking up the slack.


It's incredibly easy to make $6 in tip an hour. That's literally $2 per table if you only have 3 tables, and during dinner time you will probably have a lot more.

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LeonhartFour
04/19/12 12:15:00 PM
#73:


I'm not saying it's hard to do. I'm just saying if you're not making minimum wage including tips, you're probably a bad waiter and you won't have a job long.

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The Mana Sword
04/19/12 12:16:00 PM
#74:


Why would you want to tip a cow that's asleep anyway.

That's no challenge.

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crazyisgood
04/19/12 12:18:00 PM
#75:


The Mana Sword posted...
Thought this was about cow tipping.

should be about this

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Psycho_Kenshin
04/19/12 12:20:00 PM
#76:


I'm gonna go ahead and label "ritual sacrifice" as the dumbest practice that's ever existed, tough one. Lotta close ones, possibly dumber than tipping, not sure.

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ExThaNemesis
04/19/12 12:23:00 PM
#77:


I read about this practice in India the other day, can't remember what it was called, but when a man died they used to burn the wife on his funeral pyre because "what use was she without her husband?"

That's pretty bad.

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JDTAY
04/19/12 12:27:00 PM
#78:


ExThaNemesis posted...
I read about this practice in India the other day, can't remember what it was called, but when a man died they used to burn the wife on his funeral pyre because "what use was she without her husband?"

That's pretty bad.


yeah dude but tipping

come on

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neonreaper
04/19/12 12:31:00 PM
#79:


foolm0ron posted...
From: neonreaper | #003
As a paying customer, it gives me the ability to respond to substandard service.
Theoretically, but so few people actually pay based on service as opposed to just mindlessly paying a flat rate that could either be good or bad.


I'm fine with all of that, because it isn't a theory for me. I actually get to tip people based on how well they can perform their job.

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ExThaNemesis
04/19/12 12:34:00 PM
#80:


From: JDTAY | #078
yeah dude but tipping

come on


yeah you're right

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BlackMetalex
04/19/12 12:40:00 PM
#81:


I usually pay 1/6, or 16.66% for ease of calculation
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neonreaper
04/19/12 12:41:00 PM
#82:


foolm0ron posted...
%-based tipping is often dumb. Does a plate worth $20 really take twice as much effort to serve than a plate worth $10? If a plate is worth $20, but the restaurant has a 50% off deal so it only costs $10, does the server deserve less for serving the same exact plate?

I think it's a rule of thumb and it probably works out that the average customer's entree plate is $15 (or whatever, this is all arbitrary) such that you just place expectations over time instead of focusing on two individual plates. That said, I think the $20 plates at mediocre restaurants are going to be the steaks and those tend to have a salad with them that the $10 chicken dish doesn't include.

If you're talking same dish different restaurant, I donno. I assume that on average, good servers make their way to better restaurants.

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JDTAY
04/19/12 12:42:00 PM
#83:


Er, I would find 15% easier to calculate than that.

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Lopen
04/19/12 12:43:00 PM
#84:


$5 minimum tip wow. I think $5 would be my maximum tip.

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HookedOnSonics
04/19/12 1:33:00 PM
#85:


ibulti "i always tip 20% no matter what my dick is so huge"

lolol

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HookedOnSonics
04/19/12 1:34:00 PM
#86:


by the way places that auto charge you gratuity are dumb.

let me leave my own tip even if its 18% anyway *******s

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Westbrick
04/19/12 1:50:00 PM
#87:


Interesting debate, but it's pointless, because what the hell is the problem with tipping, exactly? That hasn't been made clear. It gives you flexibility to have some monetary say in how you felt the service was. Not every restaurant even uses tipping, and for those that do, it's such a small part of the dining experience that I don't see why it's worth complaining over.

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JeffreyRaze
04/19/12 1:55:00 PM
#88:


Horrible person discount, no thanks. I've met a guy who claims to never tip. He looked about what you'd expect from such a person too.

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red13n
04/19/12 1:55:00 PM
#89:


Did not buy a damn thing in this city when the tax was over 10% btw.

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CycloRaptor
04/19/12 1:57:00 PM
#90:


treating biolizard like an actual human being is still the dumbest practice that has ever existed.

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Tehmoosey1
04/19/12 2:00:00 PM
#91:


From: JeffreyRaze | #088
Horrible person discount, no thanks. I've met a guy who claims to never tip. He looked about what you'd expect from such a person too.


He looked like Steve Buscemi?

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Xiahou Shake
04/19/12 2:00:00 PM
#92:


Clapping at the end of (or DURING) a movie is still worse.

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LeonhartFour
04/19/12 2:01:00 PM
#93:


Xiahou Shake posted...
Clapping at the end of (or DURING) a movie is still worse.

It's a worse thing to get upset about, sure.

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VincentLauw
04/19/12 2:04:00 PM
#94:


Tehmoosey1 posted...
From: JeffreyRaze | #088
Horrible person discount, no thanks. I've met a guy who claims to never tip. He looked about what you'd expect from such a person too.
He looked like Steve Buscemi?


+1

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Ayuyu
04/19/12 6:38:00 PM
#95:


From: Lopen | #084
$5 minimum tip wow. I think $5 would be my maximum tip.


I love seeing the face of the waitresses.

They're always confused as hell.

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Midgar Zachnorn
04/19/12 6:56:00 PM
#96:


I've lived in California most of my life and up until a few years ago we had 7.75% (in riverside/san diego counties)

Now it's just 8.75%, at least everywhere in San Diego county that I've been.


I'm in Los Angeles County. I try to buy things from Orange County when I'm over there (of course, it's not worth making a special trip), because LA County is taxed so much.

LA County has a 1% higher sales tax compared to most other counties. There was a sales tax hike for public transportation that voters approved to make it .5% higher. In Pico Rivera and South Gate, there was a measure passed by voters that bumped up sales taxes "by a penny" as those cities advertised (of course, that's on every dollar, so 1% sales tax increase).

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