Do you honestly think, after all I'd been through, that I cared that anyone learned anything from that experience?
You dont learn anything from winning.
Do I like going 20-0-10 and stomping a team, yeah. Its fun. Do I get annoyed when said game goes longer than 20 minutes? Yeah, I do. Why? Because I'm not learning a damn thing.
The only way you learn anything in this game is a) Losing, b) dying.
When I die, in my head, I'm usually running over "Hey, why did I die, what could I have done differently, what should I have done, how did I f*** up so that I dont f*** up again."
When I lose, I think, "Hey, what objectives did they push, dragons did they take, wards did they have, and how/where should our team have been".
I dont generally think any of those things when I'm winning. Winning is easy. Its the losses where its easier to take things from the game. Yeah, I dont like whatever my allies did, and yeah, they probably ultimately lost the game, but does that mean I take nothing from it? No. Theres usually always something more you could do to give your team a chance to win.
I somewhat appreciate when I lose or make a mistake because I try to make a mental note to not make the same mistake twice. Especially in game, I feel the worst when something happens to me twice that I could have prevented(And believe me, you can almost always prevent stupid deaths).
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I can't stop my team from being bad because everyone I get stuck with is exactly like me. An ignoramus who's stuck in their ways and whose first instinct upon losing isn't "What could I have done better?" it's "How did these people screw me over this time?"
I have played more than enough games to realize that I'm not perfect. No. That I'm not good. But I cannot stand losing because I know what it means for the other team. They can be humble as f*** but I can't shake the feeling that they're lording it over me. And that my team is ganging up on me for being vocal about their mistakes.
I feel like I'm projecting, and a part of me honestly feels like that game was set up to set me off, which is the dumbest thing I could possibly think. I'd say it's just a bad day, but I'm sure I'll be singing the same tune tomorrow. I don't know.
I'll take you up on your offer, Chris.
-- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]
Not even sure why I'm replying since Chris did such a nice job without my help, but there are a couple small things...
From: AlphaRayAllen | #299 A loss is a loss and the people are still all the f***ing same. You're the biggest piece of s*** if you lose, and every win comes so easy to them. Every fight is your fault.
I've had 2k+ players tell me I'm a s***** player who will never amount to anything. For the sake of argument lets say there are only two ways to take this.
I could listen to them and just quit trying to improve. (lol that) Or I could not and try and play better the next time and the next time and the next time.
If your BIGGEST problem with LoL is that "people in the community make you feel badly about yourself" then you simply do not have what it takes to play competitively in any game ever because that kind of attitude will not foster any kind of drive to improve. (hint: a drive to improve is NECESSARY. Innate skill will only carry you so far)
So no, I really don't care how much Zazi learned about playing Fiddlesticks in that game
Zazi is improving at his level and that is EXACTLY what he should be doing. Let me say that again. Improving at his level of play, even if that just means going from a "completely inept" jungler to a "somewhat inept" jungler is EXACTLY what he needs to be doing.
He made strides and knows more specific information about buffs, counter jungling and other important things to consider when you are in the position of jungler. I am glad he gave it a shot and I had fun playing games with him. We lost a lot, sure, but a few things happened.
1) We joked and had fun pretty much throughout. ("dat flash ult, err I mean ult flash")
2) He actually made a few "real" fiddle ults. Zazi normally plays support which is a very reactionary role. Supports do general things in a passive way to counteract things being done by allies and opponents alike. Something happens which cause the support to do something in response. But Fiddle is a horse of a different color. You don't wait for something important to happen because YOU are the important thing that is going to happen. You read the situation, you start your channel and then you CAW CAW CAW. Being able to do this well (even if only a handful of times) involves a very different set of skills than he has previously honed while playing LoL.
There is absolutely no reason to demean this and absolutely no reason to feel badly about losing games in which things as good as this are occurring.
And I think that is all I have left to say on the matter. I'll still play with you in the future if you want because I'm pretty relaxed about who I play with. When it's a ranked game I turn on my serious face, naturally, but for the most part I just want to see people improve and have fun while doing it.
Ah, and a quality post from red while I was typing this up. ^^what he said.
Heh, I get on and pretty much everyone is In-Game. Either my client is messed up or you guys are god-tier multitaskers at playing LoL and posting lengthy GameFAQs posts. Either way I can wait.
I recently got a PM from Zazi, and I'm sorry to make this public, about how he's legitimately concerned for my well-being. This is an embarrassing moment for me, as the last thing I want to do is have people concerned for my wellness when I don't think there's anything wrong, so I just want to make one thing abundantly clear.
When I lose in this game, I feel helpless. I try my best, I make my mistakes, I try to fix them, and none of that matters. The second that Nexus explodes, I'm the worst player in the world to them. And they can say it and I can't do anything about it. It pisses me off to no end and follows me every time I try to queue again. You could be the most graceful winner in the world and I'd still perceive you as an ass. And that's not right.
In all, I just can't stand the thought of letting them get away with talking to me like that, and can't cope with the fact that I have to. I don't have that in me. I'm not that big of a person.
-- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE]
Atomic Support Nunu is still the best champ. Just keep blood boiling while quietly building up AP and Mpen, and then in your first teamfight throw a couple ice balls to harass and then FLASH ABSOLUTE ZERO
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I still say Rod of Ages is the best in the game, it builds out of Catalyst which is basically "hey I don't really need to leave lane anymore", and gives enough AP to make anyone hit hard, enough HP to make anyone bulky, and enough Mana to make anyone not need to worry about it
From: TheConductorSix | #324 Top Lane is funny because LOL MAX OUT W NEVER DIE.
Max out Q, attack someone once to deal a ton of damage then walk away. Tiger form is so stupid sometimes.
And it completely RUINS poppy. Poppy gets so much milage out of not being able to take a lot of damage at once (her passive) and so strong DoTs just destroy it.
It's the Gangplank theory: if you can't kill it with Q then out last it with W.
I also love the fact that Kayle can dunk Udyr and there is nothing he can do. He gets kited and At level 6 he gets pooped on. FD im really trying to think who in the world can beat Kayle up top and I can't think of one. Gangplank is the only one I can think of who has a pre 6 chance because he can cleanse the slow and his Q has a range better than kayle's E.
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Realo won gold at the Sex Olympics with a BROKEN FRIGGIN NECK.-Voltch
From: AlphaRayAllen | #343 Urgot is stronger than people realize. And people certainly realize he's strong.
I'm thinking he suffers from Gragas Syndrome, where he's so visually unappealing that people don't like or don't want to play as him.
It helps that Gragas is one of the hardest champs in the game to use effectively. Also Urgot doesn't play like a standard AD carry because of his build variation.
Oh yeah, Urgot is really good, I just thought it was funny that Chris was complaining about him while using Kog'maw who is probably even better.
I wouldn't call Urgot 'visually unappealing' - his design is pretty cool. It's not going to be as generically popular as someone like Graves, but I don't think it's bad. Gragras, yeah.
From: KamikazePotato | #345 Oh yeah, Urgot is really good, I just thought it was funny that Chris was complaining about him while using Kog'maw who is probably even better.
I wouldn't call Urgot 'visually unappealing' - his design is pretty cool. It's not going to be as generically popular as someone like Graves, but I don't think it's bad. Gragras, yeah.