Board 8 > League of Legends Topic 40 - "The mighty shark stalks his prey!"

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WaIker
04/20/12 3:39:00 PM
#251:


I haven't even played since the patch!

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Lopen
04/20/12 3:39:00 PM
#252:


Yeah that's the one that was coming to mind when I said "I kinda don't like them"

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AlphaRayAllen
04/20/12 3:59:00 PM
#253:


You know, it also occurred to me that I don't have enough runes to actually maximize the potential for more pages.

And I still want to buy more champions.

Conundrum.

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Peace___Frog
04/20/12 4:25:00 PM
#254:


Played one bot game.

Has the patch been this glitchy for everyone else? Or is it just lag? Cassi Bot, after giving up first blood, didn't reappear - she was only showing up as a group of gray looking rocks. WW Bot and Shen Bot walked through walls constantly. Ashe Bot wasn't always looking in the direction she was shooting.

It was a very odd game.

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AlphaRayAllen
04/20/12 4:28:00 PM
#255:


No, I just tried out jungle Mundo because I'm late to the party and Sion bot vanished from thin air and then reappeared to stun me.

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Lopen
04/20/12 4:28:00 PM
#256:


My only problem so far has been as Viktor's laser not showing right. It just sorta shot into the ground every time. Still did damage if I hit with it but yeah. Granted that's not a bot issue but it's a display issue so whatever.

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AfroSquirrel
04/20/12 4:45:00 PM
#257:


Graphic effects have gone loopy since the last patch. I've seen some odd things, but the best I've heard about is Anivia getting her appearance stuck in egg form.

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Peace___Frog
04/20/12 4:50:00 PM
#258:


hotfix?

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AlphaRayAllen
04/20/12 4:57:00 PM
#259:


From: Peace___Frog | #258
hotfix?


That or unlocking Varus.

lol yeah right

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Silver_Ermine
04/20/12 4:58:00 PM
#260:


AfroSquirrel posted...
Graphic effects have gone loopy since the last patch. I've seen some odd things, but the best I've heard about is Anivia getting her appearance stuck in egg form.

I dunno if that tops yesterday when my Alistar was permanently stuck as one of Lulu's squirrels. (Could still use abilities and everything)

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Peace___Frog
04/20/12 4:58:00 PM
#261:


it said hotfix

I'm just wondering what they're hotfixing and what they're not >_>

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HanOfTheNekos
04/20/12 5:17:00 PM
#262:


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McBonesII
04/20/12 5:21:00 PM
#263:


there are literally dozens of bugs live on the EU servers, quite a few of them game-altering or gamebreaking

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SythaWarrior
04/20/12 5:25:00 PM
#264:


Kog Maw and Karthus not dying to autoattacks is the real bad one.

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TheConductorSix
04/20/12 7:59:00 PM
#265:


Other than Olaf at level 6, does anyone else beat Kayle top lane?

Kennen can farm safely and can escape but he can't fight her. Kayle can also push him easily and roam.

I'm starting to think she's a top 5 top

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ZaziGuado
04/20/12 8:07:00 PM
#266:


Hey guys, five of us should play a bunch tonight.

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ZaziGuado
04/20/12 8:25:00 PM
#267:


Like, seriously.

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AlphaRayAllen
04/20/12 8:43:00 PM
#268:


There is nothing more frustrating than doing poorly, acknowledging it, and still having people chew you out like you said you were pro.

I hate this community.

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Chaotic Mind
04/20/12 9:37:00 PM
#269:


If the pubs are tards, just put them on ignore. That's what i do.

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Lopen
04/20/12 11:59:00 PM
#270:


I don't really care if people chew me out as long as they have a reason to.

What I do hate is when the worst guy chews out the second worst guy-- even if I'm not the second worst guy. Or someone does something ridiculously dumb and then straw man some random thing the team did. Or someone says something ridiculously dumb like Poppy can't play support because some person on solomid is 2000 elo maining her top.

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LamdaMax
04/21/12 12:25:00 AM
#271:


^Which is especially dumb considering that SpamHappy (Zekent's Poppy-only "smurf", in quotes because it's rated higher than his main) is sitting at >2300 elo and he does quite well when he ends up playing support Poppy.

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AfroSquirrel
04/21/12 12:28:00 AM
#272:


Poppy is fun. She's a solid tanky bruiser, and very good at not dieing.

I want to play her with Surge and a Lulu so that I can ram someone and suddenly POPPYZILLA

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Silver_Ermine
04/21/12 1:07:00 AM
#273:


Been running Ignite Heal Fizz lately with some decent success. Heal bait so strong :3

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Silver_Ermine
04/21/12 1:11:00 AM
#274:


And I'm increasing my Fizz vs Irelia record. It's now at 7-0.

Favorite matchup by far :D

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TheConductorSix
04/21/12 1:19:00 AM
#275:


Irelia got dumped on in her nerf. Philo stone or Sheen has to be your first item because W active is now needed to sustain.

Fizz's early game is Very strong top. No one up there has the magic resist to survive the burst. If you have Heal no one should try and fight you. They should just ask for a jungler to camp you since you don't have flash.

Congrats though Ermine, youre almost 2k now, right?

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Lopen
04/21/12 1:30:00 AM
#276:


Heal is kinda op early game I think. That combined with the flash nerf makes me end up taking heal more often than flash these days.

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Silver_Ermine
04/21/12 1:38:00 AM
#277:


TheConductorSix posted...
Irelia got dumped on in her nerf. Philo stone or Sheen has to be your first item because W active is now needed to sustain.

Fizz's early game is Very strong top. No one up there has the magic resist to survive the burst. If you have Heal no one should try and fight you. They should just ask for a jungler to camp you since you don't have flash.

Congrats though Ermine, youre almost 2k now, right?


Nah, I dropped a bit from decay (bad internet making me not want to play lol) + a huge stretch of 9 games of awful AD carries feeding bottom at least 5 kills per game (I'm not lying either, out of the 10 games I played, 9 bots failed that hard. :( )

So I'm at 1820 now, I was lower even, just made some games back by going super saiyan fizz.

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Silver_Ermine
04/21/12 1:40:00 AM
#278:


TheConductorSix posted...
They should just ask for a jungler to camp you since you don't have flash.


omg Lee came straight from his red to top, I didn't expect it and I died because I didn't have Flash.

Unfortunately for Irelia, even with that early kill, I still stomped her flat. 0-10-1 lol

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AlphaRayAllen
04/21/12 5:30:00 AM
#279:


Heal pisses me off.

It's like having a Shen ult as a summoner spell, by which I mean you either can't accurately gauge trades because lol heal, or they get away from a situation they're losing in because lol heal.

Heal and Flash are a potent combo because you've got two crutches in case you make a mistake. In a game where mistakes early can mean losing outright, that's just to great of an advantage in a lane like bot lane.

It's a shame that we've reached a point where summoners are used to fall back on when you screw up instead of making plays.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/21/12 6:37:00 AM
#280:


baiting someone with your heal is making a play.


getting baited by someone else's heal (since you KNOW they have it) is also making a play. Just a bad one.

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Lopen
04/21/12 9:45:00 AM
#281:


Yeah heal baiting is definitely making a play I just think it's a little too easy to use early game. I really think it could stand to use getting the base number knocked down a bit in exchange for better late game scaling.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/21/12 9:48:00 AM
#282:


From: Lopen | #281
I really think it could stand to use getting the base number knocked down a bit in exchange for better late game scaling.




Definitely agree. But I also don't think they can go TOO much higher either.

But then again it would give more usefulness to mortal strikes. (I'm looking at you Executioners)

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red13n
04/21/12 9:59:00 AM
#283:


speaking of executioners, it really is about time it builds into something(Or many somethings would be better, actually)

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Lopen
04/21/12 10:18:00 AM
#284:


Yeah that's true that they can't go too much higher cause it's not like it drops off the map late game or anything, still useful, but no longer mindless either. I just said that because I don't feel good about giving heal an outright nerf. It seems it's really close to where it should be right now-- useful yet not too overpowering for any of the game except for the first few levels.

Like I think 100-110 + 30 per level or so would be better. (Right now it's at 145 + 25 per level for the record)

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Peace___Frog
04/21/12 10:45:00 AM
#285:


if you make it 105, then at level 18 (without masteries) it would only go up by 50, which isn't too extreme at all and I think that its usefulness at 18 is pretty low to begin with.

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VincentLauw
04/21/12 10:45:00 AM
#286:


So I was discouraged hearing the new patch had several bugs and gamebreaking stuff

I decided to try and play a game today anyway

first thing that happened was my friends list not loading

yeah I think I'll wait until the next patch thanks

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AlphaRayAllen
04/21/12 12:40:00 PM
#287:


If you're going to invite me to games just to troll build, then maybe you just shouldn't invite me to games.

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Lopen
04/21/12 12:43:00 PM
#288:


Biolizard anti fun well I'm shocked

(no I wasn't the one who invited him like I'd even consider that)

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AlphaRayAllen
04/21/12 12:52:00 PM
#289:


Look, FD can have all the fun he wants in his down time, but at the end of the day my normal Elo isn't even that great. Inviting me to games just to turn me into a guinea pig for you unorthodox build is a slap in the face, even if you didn't intend it to be that way.

I'm in a spot where I'm sick of losing and trying to improve. I can barely bring myself to play normals under most circumstances because my losing streaks have been so terrible. I don't appreciate that being disrespected and I don't care how you perceive it, Lopen.

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KamikazePotato
04/21/12 12:52:00 PM
#290:


Heal just shouldn't be a total burst heal. I'd be fine with it if they made the instant heal half of what it is now and the rest a heal over time thing. As-is it's kinda crazy.

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WaIker
04/21/12 12:54:00 PM
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Forceful_Dragon
04/21/12 1:38:00 PM
#292:


From: AlphaRayAllen | #289
Look, FD can have all the fun he wants in his down time, but at the end of the day my normal Elo isn't even that great. Inviting me to games just to turn me into a guinea pig for you unorthodox build is a slap in the face, even if you didn't intend it to be that way.

I'm in a spot where I'm sick of losing and trying to improve. I can barely bring myself to play normals under most circumstances because my losing streaks have been so terrible. I don't appreciate that being disrespected and I don't care how you perceive it, Lopen.





If you think my build was any part of the reason why we lost then i dont know what to tell you.


1) Zazi is brand new at jungling. (And Fiddlesticks)

2) Our viktor was irredeamable. He literally thought veigar is an over powered champion just because he could not beat him with free week Viktor. He spent the ENTIRE GAME complaining about it.

3) While Viktor was busy getting stomped by Veigar I was up top beating shyvana. Out CS'd her by a lot until Viktor demanded a swap. Please bear in mind that I offered him a swap at level 1 and he said nothing. That is how out of touch our viktor was.

4) Yes I have a no surrender policy, but even keeping this in mind you do realize that we had both NUNU and KOG on our team? One of the most broken super-late-game combos in league of legends? Farmed Kog + Blood Boil + auto attacking things = they die fast. There is no reason not to play for late game with these 2 champs ever.

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AlphaRayAllen
04/21/12 1:43:00 PM
#293:


I'd rather not drag the other two into this because once you start bringing skill to the table, people start getting defensive.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/21/12 1:50:00 PM
#294:


I have no problem losing games, especially normal games. They are for practicing and that's exactly what Zazi was doing, practicing fiddle.

And he's had a handful of actually good ults and he's learned numerous things about how jungling typically works.

All in all I would say that qualifies this afternoon as a success.


And i'm sure the victor was also practicing, in his own way. I'm not sure what that's worth exactly, but I imagine he picked free week viktor to practice him.



I don't see how including all factors (rather than just excluding factors related to people who haven't mastered the champion they were using) changes anything.

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AfroSquirrel
04/21/12 1:50:00 PM
#295:


Did Lux's autoattack get redone? I don't remember the trail be so long or pretty before.

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Achromatic
04/21/12 1:53:00 PM
#296:


I've seen AP Cait of FD's abuse Olaf during the height of Olaf's terror.

If FD wants to build whatever he wants he is totally allowed to build what he wants.

Edit: Oh "Alpha" wanted to surrender man that's much worse.

What a cowardly cur.

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ZaziGuado
04/21/12 2:09:00 PM
#297:


Look Bio: it was my idea to invite you to the game. I thought the more Board 8 people we had along, the more fun it would be and the better chance I would have to learn. It's typically been that way, at least. I didn't realize that you are incredibly committed to improving your skills to the point where you get offended if people are trying new characters or meta-opposite things on your time. And that game wasn't trolling, considering the cited success FD has had with builds like that. Even if you weren't prepared for it, is there a real problem with taking a small break from playing "serious" and embracing oddity for a half hour?

Also, I don't care what you say about my skills. I realize my level isn't up to par with a lot of the people that play on Board 8, and in LoL n general. I don't think I've ever gotten "defensive" about it. Say what you want, or just about me at least.

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red13n
04/21/12 3:01:00 PM
#298:


Yeah that's true that they can't go too much higher cause it's not like it drops off the map late game or anything, still useful, but no longer mindless either. I just said that because I don't feel good about giving heal an outright nerf. It seems it's really close to where it should be right now-- useful yet not too overpowering for any of the game except for the first few levels.

Like I think 100-110 + 30 per level or so would be better. (Right now it's at 145 + 25 per level for the record)


One thing I could see with heal is possible frontloading like half of the heal and then giving it a bit of a HOT component for the rest.

This would give it less of a troll feeling, much like the old catalyst fix.

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AlphaRayAllen
04/21/12 3:25:00 PM
#299:


I just got out of a game where we were dominating until everyone, including our AD AHRI AND SUPPORT NIDALEE, wen't full f***ing retard. The Swain who didn't connect for three minutes and whined all game because I was taking a dump on all of their lanes then started s*** talking me immediately when things started to turn. Do you honestly think, after all I'd been through, that I cared that anyone learned anything from that experience?

Don't you give me that crap. A loss is a loss and the people are still all the f***ing same. You're the biggest piece of s*** if you lose, and every win comes so easy to them. Every fight is your fault. They'll blame everyone but themselves for playing poorly and then give credit to nobody but themselves when they win. You have high Elo to fall back on when people call your skills into question. I don't. There's a world of difference between you and me for exactly that reason.

So no, I really don't care how much Zazi learned about playing Fiddlesticks in that game, or how much I learned about Gwindor's ability to last hit under pressure. Because we still lost and we still had to deal with people acting like tough s*** for it. I can understand if you don't see it that way. In fact, I admire your ability to care so little. But if you're just going to hold a study group, than I advise you to just leave me alone.

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Achromatic
04/21/12 3:34:00 PM
#300:


Well I am thinking that no one is ever going to invite you to play again so that might be a problem solved.

And if they do bless them for being saintly because you are acting like a tremendous b**** right now. Tell you what, come play with me on vent and I'll just sit back and detail every single mistake you make in a game and see how much you want to play.

There is a rule of any competitive game: If the most skilled player doesn't mind losing, you should never complain. If the most skilled person, the person who should have the most desire to see others play on their level, decides to let it roll off of their back that literally denies you the right to complain. The fact that you are is just poor form. You are bad and a bad loser and it is amazing how others trying to include you in this community is taken so badly. Why don't you just go off and die in a corner or something.

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