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Ayuyu
04/12/12 11:50:00 AM
#301:


From: The Mana Sword | #300
I think there's a team that pretty much lets you infinite topple guys, but I forget what the combination is.


I know Melia and Riki can topple without any help.

Melia and Riki best characters in the game by far.

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htaeD
04/12/12 12:25:00 PM
#302:


I can agree to that
RIKI SNEAKY

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shadosneko
04/12/12 12:33:00 PM
#303:


Watching someone else play the beginning and...

Jesus Christ, the textures are ****.

I really hope someone makes a high res pack or something??

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Jeff Zero
04/12/12 12:37:00 PM
#304:


From: shadosneko | #303
Watching someone else play the beginning and...

Jesus Christ, the textures are ****.

I really hope someone makes a high res pack or something??


Play it on Dolphin with your PC if you have one capable of doing so. Just... buy the game anyway if at all possible if you care about those quality JRPGs makin' it to Western shores.

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Jeff Zero
04/12/12 12:37:00 PM
#305:


Otherwise, do like I'm doing and play it via component with the best possible TV for it.

(My PC actually can run Dolphin with ease, but I want the Wii experience the first time because... I don't know why, I just do.)

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GuessMyUserName
04/12/12 12:41:00 PM
#306:


From: shadosneko | Posted: 4/12/2012 3:33:14 PM | #303
Watching someone else play the beginning and...

Jesus Christ, the textures are ****.

I really hope someone makes a high res pack or something??


well...

external image
external image

for Dolphin only


though I should warn you not to google for this thing, because for some reason I don't understand, they included spoilerific images where you download this thing

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htaeD
04/12/12 12:53:00 PM
#307:


I will also never get graphic obsessions

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foolm0ron
04/12/12 12:56:00 PM
#308:


Can you just rip an ISO of the disc and play it on Dolphin? That would prob improve loading times as well.

I should get a bluetooth thingy...

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foolm0ron
04/12/12 12:58:00 PM
#309:


It's not an obsession, the game is just painful to look at on a big TV. I've mostly solved it by sitting 12~ feet away from the TV, though. It's like nature is giving me free anti-aliasing! The remote's sensor is even out of range at that point, good thing this game uses no motion.

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Theon_Greyjoy
04/12/12 1:07:00 PM
#310:


the game is just painful to look at on a big TV

Can you not play old games either

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foolm0ron
04/12/12 1:16:00 PM
#311:


I play them on my CRT. The Wii is just in that weird middle where my CRT is too small and HD is too big.

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htaeD
04/12/12 1:24:00 PM
#312:


guess I am never buying an HDtv then

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Jeff Zero
04/12/12 1:24:00 PM
#313:


Generally, the Wii looks beautiful on my CRT SDTV (Sony Trinitron, 32") with component hook-up.

Xenoblade hearkens back a bit to Xenosaga Episode II's many, many messily aliased backdrops, that's all.

Altogether the game is absolutely great though.

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Theon_Greyjoy
04/12/12 1:27:00 PM
#314:


I'm surprised to see all these graphic complaints. My friend always makes fun of Wii graphics and makes fun of me when he comes over and sees that I'm playing an old game. He thinks old games suck and doesn't understand why anone would play them. But when I was playing Xenoblade he never said anything about the graphics. I just think it looks really good on my HD TV, character models aside.

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Ayuyu
04/12/12 1:27:00 PM
#315:


I think the game looks pretty enough.

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Jeff Zero
04/12/12 1:28:00 PM
#316:


What HDTV do you have, Theon? And you have it plugged in via component of course, right?

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Theon_Greyjoy
04/12/12 1:31:00 PM
#317:


Jeff Zero posted...
What HDTV do you have, Theon? And you have it plugged in via component of course, right?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UE6HPM/ref=oh_o03_s00_i00_details

Nothing amazing or anything, and yes I use component.

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foolm0ron
04/12/12 1:31:00 PM
#318:


Like I said earlier in the topic, the textures and models are well detailed and animated, it's just that the aliasing is so extreme.

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Jeff Zero
04/12/12 1:43:00 PM
#319:


From: Theon_Greyjoy | #317
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UE6HPM/ref=oh_o03_s00_i00_details

Nothing amazing or anything, and yes I use component.


Still better than mine! Same company though. I have a 32" Samsung 720p 450 series.

When I plug my PS2 and Wii into it the colors always look a bit drowned-out compared with what I can muster on my ol' Trinitron. Hm.

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Jeff Zero
04/12/12 1:44:00 PM
#320:


From: foolm0ron | #318
Like I said earlier in the topic, the textures and models are well detailed and animated, it's just that the aliasing is so extreme.


And yeah, totally agree.

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RayDyn
04/12/12 1:49:00 PM
#321:


I play Xenoblade with component cables on a 47" HDTV and have no problem with the visuals.

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CalvinbalI
04/12/12 2:50:00 PM
#322:


My Wii is hooked up with composite cables to my HDTV and I think the graphics are totally fine.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
04/12/12 2:54:00 PM
#323:


Component cables + crank up the "softness" setting on your TV = Xenoblade looks excellent.


If the game looks pixellated with bad aliasing, just mess around with your TV remote. I've never seen a HDTV that doesn't have a softness slider.

Also, if you play on Dolphin, for the love of Bionis don't play in 1080p. I see people doing this all the time for some reason. It's a Wii game, if you bump it up to HD it only accentuates the low-poly models.

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foolm0ron
04/12/12 7:57:00 PM
#324:


Ok so I just went from a 2-person part with a 300 point heal every 25 seconds, to a 3-person party with a 400 heal every 25 seconds, a 900 heal every 90 seconds, and a god damn AOE 500 heal, in addition to Shulk's heal. There goes the challenge.

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CalvinbalI
04/12/12 9:21:00 PM
#325:


You just got Sharla? The game stays plenty challenging, don't you worry. Supposing you don't read FAQs and optimize your party, that is.

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TheRock1525
04/12/12 11:37:00 PM
#326:


This really feels like a game that I have to focus my attention on. I've been fleeting around between a series of games (Kingdoms of Amalur, Mass Effect 3, Final Fantasy XIII-2, Tales of Grace F) and I feel like this is a game that needs my undivided attention.

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KommunistKoala
04/12/12 11:47:00 PM
#327:


Just got the Monado on Shulk, the game seems pretty good so far, though I'm obviously not in deep enough into the more complex features I presume

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Takfloyd_mkII__
04/13/12 12:26:00 AM
#328:


Ok so I just went from a 2-person part with a 300 point heal every 25 seconds, to a 3-person party with a 400 heal every 25 seconds, a 900 heal every 90 seconds, and a god damn AOE 500 heal, in addition to Shulk's heal. There goes the challenge.

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Ayuyu
04/13/12 4:21:00 AM
#329:


So huh.. spike effects, is it me or they're super rare?

Since the game told me they were now in I've never encountered them, or I didn't notice.

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htaeD
04/13/12 7:34:00 AM
#330:


I think most of the early ones are just counter-attacks

I didnt notice them myself until I came across monsters that put you to sleep as soon as you touch them
and others who just hurt you by standing near you

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CalvinbalI
04/13/12 7:42:00 AM
#331:


From: Ayuyu | #329
So huh.. spike effects, is it me or they're super rare?

Since the game told me they were now in I've never encountered them, or I didn't notice.


Late game enemies will f*** you up with spike effects.

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Megaman703
04/13/12 7:43:00 AM
#332:


They introduce spikes early, but they aren't really seen until much later.

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Ayuyu
04/13/12 7:44:00 AM
#333:


I know there are instant-death spike effects, sounds like hell.

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htaeD
04/13/12 8:25:00 AM
#334:


divine protect or spike defense gems ftw

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CalvinbalI
04/13/12 8:40:00 AM
#335:


From: htaeD | #334
divine protect or spike defense gems ftw


Yeah, you'll want those later. The problem is that spike effects aren't a problem until so much later in the game that you never even think about accumulating them until you're getting reamed by a random unique enemy and it's only after your tenth attempt at fighting him that you realized you're losing 300 HP every time you hit him.

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foolm0ron
04/13/12 9:45:00 PM
#336:


Shimomura knows how to make a title screen song

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RayDyn
04/13/12 9:50:00 PM
#337:


From: CalvinbalI | Posted: 4/13/2012 11:40:10 AM | #335
Yeah, you'll want those later. The problem is that spike effects aren't a problem until so much later in the game that you never even think about accumulating them until you're getting reamed by a random unique enemy and it's only after your tenth attempt at fighting him that you realized you're losing 300 HP every time you hit him.


Yeah, there's a unique monster in sword valley that does spike damage, I had forgotten about spike damage that when it started hurting me, it caught me off guard, managed to kill him, but that was the only fight that gave me troubles. I have since spent some time forging new gems to clear space to pick up new crystals, that I am in no shortage of divine protect or spike defense gems.

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foolm0ron
04/14/12 11:51:00 AM
#338:


So I just got to the part where Sephiroth sends his Articuno to kill a bunch of mechon (and I think a bit of Unfinished Battle played as well). I feel like the game is gonna get a lot more complex from here on...

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htaeD
04/14/12 11:56:00 AM
#339:


I was mostly surprised they never played that awesome track again

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Jeff Zero
04/14/12 11:57:00 AM
#340:


Where the heck is Violent Andante? Looking around the Sky Stage and the hill and just can't seem to find him!

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htaeD
04/14/12 12:06:00 PM
#341:


he tends to walk passed the hill/bridge I recall
there's gotta be like a topic for every hard to find monster on the game board lol

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Jeff Zero
04/14/12 12:06:00 PM
#342:


Haha, yeah, you're probably right.

And thanks!

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foolm0ron
04/14/12 1:08:00 PM
#343:


Is that the only time they play the song? You could barely even hear it in the scene... that kinda sucks. Oh well, I heard it enough already in VGMC.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
04/14/12 1:26:00 PM
#344:


Why do people listen to OSTs before playing the games they're from? It's usually a brilliant way to get completely spoiled on the plot.

If you listened to Xenoblade's OST beforehand you know who the final boss is, all the locations you're going to visit, etc. What a shame.
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foolm0ron
04/14/12 1:29:00 PM
#345:


The only songs I listen to from games I haven't played are ones in VGMC, and that song was in VGMC.

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Sorozone
04/14/12 1:43:00 PM
#346:


Now that I have a bit of more free time this weekend, started up again. Just got done pushing Xord into the ether river. Game has been staying at a good pace so far, nothing that I would consider mind blowingly amazing or anything yet.

Though kind of a small nitpicky thing I don't like is how some story quests flags are so close to each other and you have endure a few too many talk scenes. Would have been better if they just combined them into one longer one.

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foolm0ron
04/14/12 4:37:00 PM
#347:


I just discovered collections. Holy crap so many free gemz.

Also I think the most impressive thing about this game so far is how consistent the design is. I doubt anyone even thinks/cares about this stuff, but it definitely makes the game flow really well. Like in this game you have quests, arts, skills, items, and gems that all work the same way, even though they are completely different gameplay elements. They are all based around gathering a bunch of stuff for a long time, and then deliberately spending short amounts of time to spend that stuff, by selling things or leveling arts or crafting gems, etc., so there's a really steady cycle of mindless killing/gathering followed by a short burst of strategic thinking and planning, and repeat. That's probably the reason it is addictive to play.

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Sorozone
04/14/12 4:38:00 PM
#348:


From: foolm0ron | #347
I just discovered collections. Holy crap so many free gemz.


I did the same thing. lol

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Ayuyu
04/14/12 4:39:00 PM
#349:


From: foolm0ron | #347
I just discovered collections. Holy crap so many free gemz.

Also I think the most impressive thing about this game so far is how consistent the design is. I doubt anyone even thinks/cares about this stuff, but it definitely makes the game flow really well. Like in this game you have quests, arts, skills, items, and gems that all work the same way, even though they are completely different gameplay elements. They are all based around gathering a bunch of stuff for a long time, and then deliberately spending short amounts of time to spend that stuff, by selling things or leveling arts or crafting gems, etc., so there's a really steady cycle of mindless killing/gathering followed by a short burst of strategic thinking and planning, and repeat. That's probably the reason it is addictive to play.


Sounds like a MMO to me!

I still don't understand how people can enjoy game like Xenoblade and hate on mmos, they're really similar.

I like both personally so..

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GuessMyUserName
04/14/12 4:40:00 PM
#350:


I spent so much time spent wandering around one area for a Rainbow Slug

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