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htaeD
04/17/12 12:33:00 AM
#401:


all I know is that selling gem-filled equipment automatically removes those gems
but for most interactions, you need to manually shuffle gems around

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Takfloyd_mkII__
04/17/12 7:15:00 AM
#402:


You know you can equip gems that are already on different equipment? I don't see how this is a problem, seeing as it clearly shows which gems are on equipment that's not in use.
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baron von toast
04/17/12 7:21:00 AM
#403:


Yes, but it's still 100% more inconvenient than if the gems just stayed with the character when possible.

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foolm0ron
04/17/12 10:37:00 AM
#404:


I dunno, I feel like the gem equipping is really convenvient. It removes all gems when selling, you can equip gems from other armor, and it even tells you which gems are on unequipped armor so if you got new armor you can just look for the gray E gems.

I guess if there were enough slots in the new armor, they could just transfer the gems over, but what if there's fewer slots? How does it pick which one to carry over? And if there's no slots, it will unequip the gems or leave them on the old armor? It would lead to very inconsistent handling of gems, which is convenient sometimes but confusing other times.

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Ayuyu
04/17/12 10:43:00 AM
#405:


I personally wish gems were sorted better.

I don't care if it means having 20 tabs, as long as it's easy to find what I want.

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Jeff Zero
04/17/12 10:45:00 AM
#406:


I'm headed into the Marsh now and I assume I missed these Colony 9 quests the first time around because some of them are laughable. This one dude's all like, 'I need you to take care of one Cute Brog. Be careful, they're really strong!' And I'm like, "o_o"

Anyway, I still can't go into Colony 6, right? There are refugees chilling at the cave so I assume so. It just feels weird walking past it without going inside yet.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
04/17/12 10:47:00 AM
#407:


I personally wish gems were sorted better.

I don't care if it means having 20 tabs, as long as it's easy to find what I want.


You can auto-sort the gems in like 10 different ways.

"Attributes" is the best, it sorts the gems in the most convenient way possible, starting with HP gems, then Strength, then Ether, then Agility, and so on, all ranked from best to worst.

It's funny that pretty much every complaint this game gets comes from people who don't pay enough attention. Like the people who don't figure out that you can fast travel to different maps.
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foolm0ron
04/17/12 10:58:00 AM
#408:


Yeah the sorting is tricky because there are so many different types of bonuses. I have found that Attributes is the best as well.

From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #407
Like the people who don't figure out that you can fast travel to different maps.


Oh god how? I can't even imagine that.

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foolm0ron
04/17/12 10:59:00 AM
#409:


Also what does Agility do? Dodge rate?

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KJH
04/17/12 11:19:00 AM
#410:


Hit and dodge rate.

So, pretty useful for anyone who avoids attacks or uses physical attacks. Dunban/Shulk really benefit from it.

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GuessMyUserName
04/17/12 11:21:00 AM
#411:


I wouldn't want gems to transfer to whatever equipment you put on, because what if you wanted certain pieces of equipment set up a certain way? Every time you change equipments it would change the gems

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KJH
04/17/12 11:46:00 AM
#412:


Also, looking at the last page, totally change up your party a lot. Everyone is completely usable, and it was a lot of fun to me to try playing as each one and all. You get a ton of different dialogue too, since every combination of three all have specialized in-battle quotes too. And of course, they all have different banter when accepting quests, and it helps build affinity.

If anything, Sharla ended up being my least used character. Doesn't do a lot of damage, lots of recharge, healing wasn't all that necessary when you had Shulk, Riki, or Melia covering it and used chain attacks well, and she likewise doesn't build up party gauge much at all to let you use more chain attacks.

I usually found Dunban or 7th to be highest DPS thanks to the 5x multiplier in chain attacks with their talent artes. Absolutely obscene damage on those.

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foolm0ron
04/17/12 11:57:00 AM
#413:


Yeah I underestimated the value of party gauge building. With Shulk/Reyn/Sharla all you get is Shulk occasionally building some gauge, but Dunban builds it insanely quick, so even if people die you can just revive them.

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KJH
04/17/12 12:41:00 PM
#414:


And Dunban dodges like a champ!

But yeah, you don't need to even use the party gauge for reviving, just chain attacks. You can stick enemies in loops of topple/daze really easily since each extra topple/daze attack after break stacks the time on top of one another.

So, best tactic always ended up being use chain attack to break them, then build up multiplier with consecutive topple moves, use a talent art when you're out of topple/green moves to keep the multiplier, and finish it off with more talent artes or red moves to take advantage of the ridiculous multiplier and damage.

And the cool thing is that each move in a chain attack still increases party gauge (including the topple/daze ones), and the topple/daze/whatever you do while they're still knocked down afterwards will boost it up too. By the time they're up, you'll probably have 2/3 party gauge refilled.

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CorporalSphynx
04/17/12 1:30:00 PM
#415:


I've grown to like Seven, I think she fills the gauge faster than Dunban. Gotta figure out a new party with her, since the party I am using is now Seven, Shulk, Riki, but now that I've maxed the Shulk/Seven affinity, I don't need Shulk. Also, Riki takes forever to gain affinity with unless you use gifts.

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GuessMyUserName
04/17/12 1:46:00 PM
#416:


I love Seven's Max Tension move

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htaeD
04/17/12 1:49:00 PM
#417:


Seven is ridiculously good with that gauge yeah

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KommunistKoala
04/17/12 2:12:00 PM
#418:


So you're saying if someone is toppled, and you use another move that dazes/topples on them, it's a damage multiplier?

edit: or are you just saying it adds more topple time on top of the original topple time

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baron von toast
04/17/12 2:25:00 PM
#419:


From: GuessMyUserName | #411
I wouldn't want gems to transfer to whatever equipment you put on, because what if you wanted certain pieces of equipment set up a certain way? Every time you change equipments it would change the gems


If I'm changing equipment, I'm changing to better equipment. I don't want need a specific gem setup on obsolete gear. The gems are far more particular the person using than the hat they're wearing.

And really, I'm not too sure about this secret code for the 7th party member. I mean, there's exactly one person in the world that is both a candidate to join your party and could be considered a spoiler :\/

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KommunistKoala
04/17/12 2:27:00 PM
#420:


you shut your dirty whore mouth baron I can't wait to meet the character named Seven

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Ayuyu
04/17/12 2:28:00 PM
#421:


From: baron von toast | #419
If I'm changing equipment, I'm changing to better equipment. I don't want need a specific gem setup on obsolete gear. The gems are far more particular the person using than the hat they're wearing.

And really, I'm not too sure about this secret code for the 7th party member. I mean, there's exactly one person in the world that is both a candidate to join your party and could be considered a spoiler :\/


Huh no, there are at least 2.

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foolm0ron
04/17/12 2:45:00 PM
#422:


Seven was awesome in 999

But yeah I think I have known who this 7th person is gonna be for a long time. Strangely enough, looking at the H2H list made me think it was gonna be that person, and then reading the achievement list pretty much confirmed it. I guess it's still a pretty big spoiler, but I would imagine most players predict it beforehand.

Unless of course I'm completely wrong, but we'll see.

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foolm0ron
04/17/12 2:47:00 PM
#423:


From: KJH | #414
But yeah, you don't need to even use the party gauge for reviving, just chain attacks.


Maybe I've been doing it wrong, but I can never get a good chain attack. The longest I've done was 5 attacks, and that was with <3 and :D affinity party members.

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GuessMyUserName
04/17/12 2:48:00 PM
#424:


I'm glad I beat this game immediately as it came out in English so I never had to worry about any spoilers >_>

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KommunistKoala
04/17/12 2:49:00 PM
#425:


I think somewhere between 5-7 attacks with Shulk/Reyn on Bionis' leg with purple affinity on this one unique enemy. Haven't had much success since then though

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KJH
04/17/12 3:16:00 PM
#426:


So you're saying if someone is toppled, and you use another move that dazes/topples on them, it's a damage multiplier?

edit: or are you just saying it adds more topple time on top of the original topple time


More topple time on the original topple time, but in a chain attack, using the same color attacks increases the multiplier to the side, which likewise multiplies the amount of damage each attack in that chain attack does. Talent arts (white) count as any and all colors, so it can link together, say, a green-green-white-red-red to make that final red be x5 damage instead of having been reset by color changing.

And each topple that you stack on will increase the party gauge a bit more iirc, since it's a successful secondary effect.

Best way to continue the attacks is just put everything into Shulk for that one Chain Link skill he has, and be sure to link it to every party member in battle. With high affinity and that, 6+ attacks per chain attack around endgame is common, and stuff like a x5 Blossom Dance will end up doing like half a boss's health and then some.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
04/17/12 4:26:00 PM
#427:


And this topic is now spoiler hell because people are too dumb to keep 7th's identity ambiguous enough. Good work guys.
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RayDyn
04/17/12 5:40:00 PM
#428:


So, just curious, but where in the game is everybody? I'm at Mechonis Field

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foolm0ron
04/17/12 6:47:00 PM
#429:


Alcamoth or Azeroth or whatever

From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #427
And this topic is now spoiler hell because the game is too dumb to keep 7th's identity ambiguous enough.


fixed

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foolm0ron
04/17/12 6:49:00 PM
#430:


From: KJH | #426
Talent arts (white) count as any and all colors, so it can link together, say, a green-green-white-red-red to make that final red be x5 damage instead of having been reset by color changing.


Well that makes things way easier

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KommunistKoala
04/17/12 6:58:00 PM
#431:


I'm in uh the ether mines or whatever near Colony 6

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Jeff Zero
04/17/12 6:59:00 PM
#432:


I'm not too far ahead of you, Komm. Knowing me you'll be past me soon enough though!

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baron von toast
04/17/12 8:49:00 PM
#433:


I recently cleared the forest and am ready to go to the sea but imma do some sidequests first.

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foolm0ron
04/17/12 11:27:00 PM
#434:


Time to revisit my quality-o-meter

BEST
Okami
FFX
Persona 3
Dark Souls
Kingdom Hearts
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SMRPG
FFX-2
PM:TTYD
FFXII
ToS
TRASH

.It beats TTYD because it is way more interesting and held my attention for more than 10 hours. It beats FFX-2 because while they both have great battle systems and let you play dressup, Xenoblade doesn't have Paine. It beats SMRPG because Gaur Plains > Forest Maze (sorry Shimomura). From KH and above, the story plays a huge part, so I'm gonna have to wait until I beat the game to see how the game ranks.

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KommunistKoala
04/17/12 11:44:00 PM
#435:


From: Jeff Zero | #2152
I'm not too far ahead of you, Komm. Knowing me you'll be past me soon enough though!


Perhaps, but finals and **** are coming up so I may stop playing as much as I have been (not really though)

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Jeff Zero
04/17/12 11:45:00 PM
#436:


From: KommunistKoala | #435
Perhaps, but finals and **** are coming up so I may stop playing as much as I have been (not really though)


Heh, same. And I'm writing a feature-length screenplay... hoo, boy.

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crazyisgood
04/18/12 12:08:00 AM
#437:


buying now because of you

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Jeff Zero
04/18/12 12:13:00 AM
#438:


because of me!

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htaeD
04/18/12 1:48:00 AM
#439:


I know FFX is fun and all, but I could never place it that high o.o

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Jeff Zero
04/18/12 1:50:00 AM
#440:


In relative terms it's about that high up for me. Only around six or seven games out there I would rank higher.

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htaeD
04/18/12 3:03:00 AM
#441:


then again I am a guy that would put ToS above FFX
also FFIX above all other FFs, though thats half influenced by nostalgia

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TheRock1525
04/18/12 3:04:00 AM
#442:


DESIREE IS MY MORTAL NEMESIS NOW.

/badboard8chatinsidejoke

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baron von toast
04/18/12 5:20:00 PM
#443:


What's the deal with the game shutting down huge sections of the mine. I realize there's really not anything down there but now my map is forever incomplete. The mine was so long and boring that I just wanted to finish it and figured I'd explore the rest later but nope.

Also dressed Melia up in Panther gear. Hot.

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foolm0ron
04/18/12 8:36:00 PM
#444:


Playing dressup with Melia is my favorite thing. And Riki too... dat hair.

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htaeD
04/19/12 2:00:00 AM
#445:


if only 7th could accept actual clothes and armors

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TheRock1525
04/19/12 2:08:00 AM
#446:


Oh man... I just got done with most of Colony 9 stuff and the Mechon attack.

Kinda bummed that I'll no longer be able to use the dual-wielding character, I usually enjoy dual-wielding.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
04/19/12 7:29:00 AM
#447:


7th character indirect SPOILER


if only 7th could accept actual clothes and armors

Speed armor. Now.

Also your post should be spoilertagged. Is it that hard to keep details on 7th properly marked?
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KommunistKoala
04/19/12 7:34:00 AM
#448:


Currently in Satorl Marsh. Fought a level 26 unique enemy that was probably the toughest fight so far, though I didn't use sharla so my healing was lackluster.

Also Dunban is amazing fun to play as. I wish his talent art, the combo thing, didn't take so long to refill

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Takfloyd_mkII__
04/19/12 7:42:00 AM
#449:


Also, stupid extensive JRPG ranking, read and learn feeble mortals:

Elder God
FFVII
Chrono Trigger
FFX
Xenoblade

Awesome
FFIX
FFVI
KH2 (Final Mix)
KH1
TWEWY
Persona 3
Radiant Historia
Paper Mario
KH CoM
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of Symphonia
Nier
FFIV
Golden Sun
FFV
Paper Mario TTYD
KH BbS

Ok
FFXIII-2
Mario RPG
Crisis Core
Pokémon
FFXII
FFXIII
FFVIII
KH Days/Coded
FFI-III

Bad
FFX-2
Sonic RPG
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GuessMyUserName
04/19/12 7:47:00 AM
#450:


... aren't you the one that says Sonic RPG is the best Sonic game?

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