Board 8 > Shounen Anime & Manga Discussion Topic 12 - Without Bleach there is no SHINE

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ninkendo
03/27/12 5:34:00 AM
#1:


I'll miss them both



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Achromatic
03/27/12 5:35:00 AM
#2:


boo hiss.
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GranzonEx
03/27/12 6:46:00 AM
#3:


I've always used Bleach, but how is this Naruto thing? Does it do a better job of whitening?
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ctesjbuvf
03/27/12 6:52:00 AM
#4:


Nothing can truly shine without the help of a little bleach.

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BK_Sheikah00
03/27/12 11:15:00 AM
#5:


Oh cool, you actually went with it. I don't know, I expected someone to word it a bit better?

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XIII_rocks
03/27/12 11:16:00 AM
#6:


I have almost no interest in anime but the lack of SHINE makes me sad

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pjbasis
03/27/12 11:37:00 AM
#7:


That's a clever title.

From: XIII_rocks | #006
I have almost no interest in anime


Then the world of manga awaits you.
It is akin to the adult to the anime's child.

Or something. That was worded horribly.

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ctesjbuvf
03/27/12 12:24:00 PM
#8:


lol xiii

Anyways, has anyone watched or read The Law of Ueki? I suppose not, but it's a great series and not too long for a shounen being. It starts off pretty good, some might say a bit slow, but from what I've seen it looks like most people agree that it gets way better later on. What I'm trying to say; You should go check it out!

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WhiteLens
03/27/12 5:07:00 PM
#9:


BABY NOW YOU FEEL LIKE NUMBER ONE
SHINING BRIGHT FOR EVERYONE
LIVING OUT YOUR FANTASY
BRIGHTEST STAR FOR ALL TO SEE

Man, I'm gonna severely miss that song:


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ctesjbuvf
03/28/12 4:17:00 AM
#10:


Beasts in Impel Down even. I thought it was only allies we would see.

Smoker vs. Law, can't wait for that in the anime. This Mone got to have something to do with Laws weird behavior. Tashigi fails big time. Smokers a badass, but then takes his heart, whoa. Now I'm really excited for next chapter. Luffy meets up with Law again!

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ninkendo
03/28/12 5:17:00 AM
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GranzonEx
03/28/12 6:01:00 AM
#12:


BROTHER TIME! Awesome Naruto chapter.

XFD I knew that was Brownbeard. I wonder what happened between him and Hawkins, is Hawkins 'Boss'?

Nothing spectacular happened this chapter but Bleach is setting up for an epic arc as well.
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pjbasis
03/28/12 9:55:00 AM
#13:


THIS IS WHAT YOU'VE WAITED FOR
IT'S YOU THAT THEY ALL ADORE!!!!

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ctesjbuvf
03/28/12 1:18:00 PM
#14:


It would be cool if we heard some more stuff about other supernovas. Serveral seemed to fall at the hands of the New World. We know Kid and Drake has been quite bold in the New World right when entered and Kid messed with Big Moms crew making them short on money. Killer was of course also part of that. Drake tried going against Kaido. Law is a Shichibukai. Bonney was captured. Urouge, Apoo and Bege faced what looked like fatal troubles. Well that does leave out only Hawkins.

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edwardsdv
03/28/12 1:20:00 PM
#15:


Does this mean my SHINE award has been invalidated?

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pjbasis
03/28/12 1:35:00 PM
#16:


Whoa I am off, I thought I was posting in this topic.

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ninkendo
03/28/12 1:36:00 PM
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pjbasis
03/28/12 1:37:00 PM
#18:


To celebrate the first anniversary of Magico's serialization and to kill my own boredom, I am going to rank the currently running series in Weekly Shonen Jump! *Fanfare*

I will not rank things that
1) I have not read. (duh)
2) Are under 50 chapters or a year of serialization. To give new series a chance to get their groove going.

Woohoo!


REPOST WITH FEELING

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ctesjbuvf
03/28/12 1:38:00 PM
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pjbasis
03/28/12 1:42:00 PM
#20:


ctes is a poser he doesn't read or watch bleach!

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ninkendo
03/28/12 1:44:00 PM
#21:


ctes -3 literally ruined my song before the topic ended

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ctesjbuvf
03/28/12 1:45:00 PM
#22:


Have I ever claimed too lol.

Although I was planning to watch the anime, but serveral other series before it, so not in the near future.

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ctesjbuvf
03/28/12 1:48:00 PM
#23:


You were too slow. I said I'd kill it, if you guys didn't with Bleach, and after 24 hours it was still alive. Shine tried, but I had already begun.

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pjbasis
03/28/12 1:55:00 PM
#24:


Anyways.

This is the list of things of the 13 thinks to be ranked.

Bakuman
Beelzebub
Bleach
Hunter X Hunter
Katekyo Hitman Reborn!
Kuroko no Basket
Magico
Medaka Box
Naruto
Nurarihyon no Mago
One Piece
Sket Dance
Toriko

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ninkendo
03/28/12 2:01:00 PM
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edwardsdv
03/28/12 2:05:00 PM
#26:


From: WhiteLens | #009
BABY NOW YOU FEEL LIKE NUMBER ONE
SHINING BRIGHT FOR EVERYONE
LIVING OUT YOUR FANTASY
BRIGHTEST STAR FOR ALL TO SEE

Man, I'm gonna severely miss that song:


Man I only picked up bleach this summer. And I will already miss it dearly when its gone. At least I still have the dub.

If I cared enough I guess I could read the manga, but Bleach is SOOOOOO much better animated.

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ninkendo
03/28/12 2:05:00 PM
#27:


true that


the manga's fun to read when I'm in the mood for white pages and feet

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ninkendo
03/28/12 2:19:00 PM
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pjbasis
03/28/12 2:20:00 PM
#29:


From: edwardsdv | #026
If I cared enough I guess I could read the manga, but Bleach is SOOOOOO much better animated.


I can't believe I'm reading this.

This opinion can exist?

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ninkendo
03/28/12 2:23:00 PM
#30:


It's pretty much a fact!

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pjbasis
03/28/12 2:25:00 PM
#31:


But like...his art is so good!

The way he utilizes paneling and the black and white color scheme!

The anime throws color on things without a care for style and scheme!
It has no SOUL!

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swordz9
03/28/12 2:26:00 PM
#32:


Are you saying animated Don Kanonji has no soul?

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GranzonEx
03/28/12 2:30:00 PM
#33:


Enjoying BLEACH the way it was meant to be enjoyed: read.
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GranzonEx
03/28/12 2:33:00 PM
#34:


Guys, I have a secret. I actually don't read a lot of shounen manga and I don't watch any shounen anime. I've been a fraud. A nisemono.
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ctesjbuvf
03/28/12 3:06:00 PM
#35:


Edolas was really a wonderful arc.

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pjbasis
03/28/12 3:25:00 PM
#36:


Speaking of.

13. Magico

Author: Iwamoto Naoki
Debut: February 2011

So like, it started off kinda interesting and all, I like when things take place in their own world as opposed to "kid from japan gets powers" type settings, but then it quickly deteriorates into something with bad shounen and even worse "romantic-comedy."

What is it, pj?

I know a few of you read it because we all bashed it before, but for those who didn't, it's about wizards and magic and the main characters gets hitched with this girl for some reason I don't remember anymore. She has a demon inside her and they need to undergo a bunch of rituals to complete "Magico," which I can't remember is a spell or item or what, and cure her or something.

It had some god awful small arcs, and then redeemed itself with a fairly interesting couples tournament arc, which introduced some actually entertaining characters. It even proved that this author is capable of building up a good showdown and deliver a nice intense and satisfying climactic ending. The action was well-choreographed and the magic powers were actually cool.

Art
It's a shame because the style of the world is actually kinda unique and fun. But it's also not good when I like the way all your inanimate objects look but I hate your character designs. They're not hideous but they're just kinda boring and I hate the "huge anime eyes" thing that usually is evaded in shounen jump manga. The paneling is pretty good, but nothing noteworthy.

Character and Story
Ugh, these characters. UGH. So boring and flat and dumb. You got Shion the protagonist and his wife Emma with a boring face and huge boobs and he nosebleeds anytime she looks at him. It got old by Chapter 2. It still happens with disturbing frequency. For a plot where romance is intricate did they have to be such dolts about the whole thing? I get they're sheltered and innocent but you can't really expect to interest me when the thought of kissing is still too much for them to bear. The relationship goes nowhere beyond the typical "I'll protect you" shounen crap he gets to pull when the villain gets too villainy. No chemistry either. Stupid cat sidekick that is nowhere near Happy level. She's not even Charle level. That bad.

Story: C
Characters: D-
Art: B
Action: B-

OVERALL D+

Unless it gets better, I hope it gets canceled soonn.

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GranzonEx
03/28/12 3:30:00 PM
#37:


Quality list already

+3 pjbasis
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ctesjbuvf
03/28/12 3:47:00 PM
#38:


...Lisanna...

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WhiteLens
03/28/12 4:16:00 PM
#39:


From: edwardsdv | #026
If I cared enough I guess I could read the manga, but Bleach is SOOOOOO much better animated.


There's only been 7 chapters since the end of the Lost Substitute Shinigami arc. (man that name alone sounds like a spoiler...not that it mattered much)
You can easily get to where it's currently at.

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Sorozone
03/28/12 4:16:00 PM
#40:


Bleach is a lot better reading, like most Shounen honestly. Mainly because the pacing isn't so f***ed up. Hell, the only one I actually enjoy the anime more is Yu Yu Hakusho, but that's because the manga is somewhat a mess.

Dragonball is good too, Z...eh not so much.

Anyway, really enjoyed all 3 chapters. One Piece being the best.

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edwardsdv
03/28/12 4:17:00 PM
#41:


From: GranzonEx | #034
Guys, I have a secret. I actually don't read a lot of shounen manga and I don't watch any shounen anime. I've been a fraud. A nisemono.


Since when is Gundam not shounen?

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edwardsdv
03/28/12 4:18:00 PM
#42:


From: WhiteLens | #039
There's only been 7 chapters since the end of the Lost Substitute Shinigami arc. (man that name alone sounds like a spoiler...not that it mattered much)
You can easily get to where it's currently at.


Ehh, maybe I presume bleach is up to date on all the usual suspects?

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WhiteLens
03/28/12 4:25:00 PM
#43:


Literally thinks that Gundam isn't aim at children wanting to buy cool mecha toys and models.

And yeah you if meant on whether or not Bleach is up to date on the scans, it is. In fact the latest chapter went up scanned today!
You could very well start on ch. 480 since that's when the new arc begins.

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GranzonEx
03/28/12 5:03:00 PM
#44:


Eh I wouldn't consider Gundam to be shounen just because it's aimed at children for the most part. You take a look at Zeta and Victory and tell me if that is aimed at children >_>

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GranzonEx
03/28/12 5:05:00 PM
#45:


Besides, when was the last time a Gundam pilot defeated a boss with a resolve powerup? Or had a training arc to prepare for a tournament?
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ninkendo
03/28/12 5:27:00 PM
#46:


well they are

but okay I'll respect your opinions, dawg!

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swordz9
03/28/12 5:27:00 PM
#47:


Bakuman has resolve power-ups, but they're different than the usual type.

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th3l3fty
03/28/12 5:59:00 PM
#48:


is this a WSJ series ranking pjbasis

if so Nisekoi is too high

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WhiteLens
03/28/12 6:01:00 PM
#49:


Compared to other "mass killings, lots of people die" series, Death Note is actually fairly tame. Normally those involve people dying in a horrifying or violent ways. Aside from a few deaths, Death Note is pretty low on the violence, since getting a heart attack isn't something I'd consider gruesome.
Though I suppose that the anime did make things more dramatic.

And Bakuman is without a doubt Shounen. I mean it was originally about teenage boys setting their sights for a common goal.
Now I haven't read any sports manga before, but I wouldn't think that it's so much of a stretch to think of Bakuman like a sports manga only with manga making as the "sport".

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GranzonEx
03/28/12 6:13:00 PM
#50:


I define shounen as a type of manga about character(s) that fight/compete and constantly grow stronger* while facing stronger enemies.

DN, there are no powerups for Light, unless you count the DN itself. There are no stronger enemies either. He doesn't get stronger/smarter, but he does grow as a character, just not in the typical way.

As for Bakuman, I feel like it's not really a shounen either. I will admit it's pretty similar to a battle shounen, but there's just something about it that doesn't fit the bill. They described themselves best: a non-mainstream battle manga with non-mainstream protagonists engaging in mainstream fights while using non-mainstream powers.
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