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Westbrick
03/13/12 3:51:00 PM
#1:


One of the advantages anime has over other expressive mediums, it seems to me, is that you can bend the rules of reality with great ease. Just got finished with a rewatch of 2001, and I'm in the mood for something dark, violent, and psychologically disturbing. Can anyone recommend me something along these lines?

For the record, I'm hardly an anime guy, but I have seen DBZ, Death Note, and Gurren Lagann (and am currently watching Fist of the North Star; completely awesome).

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Weakupedia
03/13/12 3:53:00 PM
#2:


i have two in mind but both their titles escape me

something was something naku no koro ni

and the other had a two cousins that had the hots for each other and also a crazy girl

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SemiFinal vs Belarus
03/13/12 3:53:00 PM
#3:


I have yet to see it myself, but Monster sounds like what you're looking for.

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Weakupedia
03/13/12 3:53:00 PM
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so i'm pretty much useless

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SemiFinal vs Belarus
03/13/12 3:53:00 PM
#5:


From: Weakupedia | #002
something was something naku no koro ni


higurashi

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GenesisSaga
03/13/12 3:55:00 PM
#6:


Weakupedia posted...
i have two in mind but both their titles escape me

something was something naku no koro ni

and the other had a two cousins that had the hots for each other and also a crazy girl


Higurashi no Naku Koroni

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Xeybozn
03/13/12 4:07:00 PM
#7:


Evangelion is probably worth looking at, but know that it isn't too dark/weird at first.

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Xiahou Shake
03/13/12 4:09:00 PM
#8:


Higurashi is the first thing to come to mind.

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Liquid Wiind
03/13/12 4:10:00 PM
#9:


+1 for higurashi no naku koro ni
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paperwarior
03/13/12 4:10:00 PM
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Monster is... not that disturbing for the most part. Definitely dark. And good.

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Weakupedia
03/13/12 4:10:00 PM
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ah

elfen lied

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Liquid Wiind
03/13/12 4:12:00 PM
#12:


elfen lied is also good, it's much more violent than higurashi or really...almost anything else I've ever seen, ever. but not quite as disturbing to me
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tereziWright
03/13/12 4:14:00 PM
#13:


Serial Experiment Lain
Boogiepop Phantom
Bokurano (Manga only)
Higurashi

And while I wouldn't say Ergo Proxy is super dark overall, it's got its dark spots and is crazy good.

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Wanglicious
03/13/12 4:17:00 PM
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dark, violent, and psychologically disturbing.

this is the way to define Higurashi. so that one.
it's also mercifully not boring like half the others that go for dark and psychologically disturbing, or bad like a good amount of those that remain.


also, School Days is the 2nd thing to come to mind. you'l love it. or hate it.

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Westbrick
03/13/12 4:41:00 PM
#15:


Thanks for the recs! I guess I'll start with Higurashi. This may or may not become a watchthrough topic.

btw, forgot to mention I've seen Monster too. Really really good!

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Lopen
03/13/12 4:43:00 PM
#16:


Shiki is pretty good at this if you give it the time to get rolling. It's a 2 season series but I'd say it only really gets good in the second season

And yeah School Days also works

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_Regaro_
03/13/12 4:44:00 PM
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From: Westbrick | #015
This may or may not become a watchthrough topic.


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edwardsdv
03/13/12 4:44:00 PM
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Yeah monsters not what you would call Dark but it is intensely psychological.

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saveus_Maria
03/13/12 4:46:00 PM
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Higurashi is good stuff. I'm actually watching Shiki right now, it's pretty solid.

I'd also recommend Alien Nine.

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Weakupedia
03/13/12 4:51:00 PM
#20:


Wanglicious posted...
dark, violent, and psychologically disturbing.

this is the way to define Higurashi. so that one.
it's also mercifully not boring like half the others that go for dark and psychologically disturbing, or bad like a good amount of those that remain.


also, School Days is the 2nd thing to come to mind. you'l love it. or hate it.


oh man school days

i love it and hate it

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Westbrick
03/15/12 1:22:00 AM
#21:


Higurashi Episode 1

Are you ready for the most random fun fact in the history of B8?

[Fun fact: the sound of birds which awakes Keichi at the beginning of the episode is the same sound effect used for birds in the original Star Ocean!]

Moving on...

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What in the literal **** did I just watch? Fighting over magic briefs? Army men? Soul Brothers? Is this even the right show?

idgaf, 10/10

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dexter28
03/15/12 1:42:00 AM
#22:


I think you're watching the third season Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni Rei, which was a bunch of OVAs and not the actual show.

You're looking for just Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni. Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni Kai is the second season.

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Raka_Putra
03/15/12 1:45:00 AM
#23:


Don't watch Kai, Rei, or Kira yet.

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Raka_Putra
03/15/12 1:47:00 AM
#24:


And by that, I mean Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni Kai/Rei/Kira.

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Westbrick
03/15/12 1:51:00 AM
#25:


Yeah, problem solved. I guess I watched the first episode of Rei? It was pretty awesome either way! Anyway.

Higurashi [Actual] Episode 1

I was already tangentially introduced to the characters through my unfortunate (fortunate?) chance encounter with Higurashi Rei, but it was nice to see them in a serious context. This show seems to do a wonderful job bouncing back and forth between lighthearted, character-building scenes and darker, mysterious ones. I'm impressed so far.

As to this mystery that's being built up? I feel that the red-headed chick is too obvious a candidate. She's quirky, and they're making to sure to emphasize that she seems "different." The closing shot of her walking with the axe only adds to the red herring factor. But we'll see!

8.5/10

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pjbasis
03/15/12 2:23:00 AM
#26:


I was gonna suggest the serial experiments lain or whatever the name is, but that's more mindf*** psychological.

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Westbrick
03/15/12 2:46:00 AM
#27:


Higurashi Episode 2

Alright, now I'm buying into my red-hair-is-red-herring theory even more. Protip: when they try to force a character on you as suspicious early on into a mystery, that person is almost always looking out for the protagonist. My money's on Green: she's older, probably knows more about the town, and is using her age and influence to control the actions of the group.

Really captivating show so far. Wish I had more to say, but I'm sure that'll pick up before too long.

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Pianist
03/15/12 2:55:00 AM
#28:


'green' what is this dub garbage

keep watching! there's an obvious stopping point for the first time you watch

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Westbrick
03/15/12 2:56:00 AM
#29:


Oh, and that ep got an 8/10.

Higurashi Episode 3

Things really starting to pick up. So it seems as though the entire group is involved in some way? Interesting. I'm sort of getting an end-of-Monster vibe, with the small town dynamic (those who have seen the anime will know what I'm talking about).

My favorite part about this episode, and what makes it the best so far, is the definite (and seemingly permanent) tonal shift. No more halcyon days with the School Club; no more innocent games; just mystery and paranoia. Watching this show at six in the morning only adds to the experience. As for the characters... hate them all, in a good way. I deeply sympathize with Keiichi and am very suspicious of just about everyone else (including the younger girls), which I suppose is the point. Fosters fear even for the viewer.

One small thing: I was promised violence, so I hope we get some violence coming up! Would really add to the tension.

9.5/10

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kurtfisto
03/15/12 3:30:00 AM
#30:


Wow the later arcs are just going to astound you.

Higurashi's also more uplifting than it is disturbing imo, but I'm sure you'll enjoy it holistically.

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Liquid Wiind
03/15/12 3:53:00 AM
#31:


most of it is still disturbing until later on, and it is still disturbing in the end that there's that one guy that is openly coming on to children and everyone is totally ok with it

wtf japan

there is some violence but it's not the most intensely graphic thing ever, it's mostly psychological horror...which is added to by a certain novelty this series has
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pjbasis
03/15/12 3:55:00 AM
#32:


From: Liquid Wiind | #031
most of it is still disturbing until later on, and it is still disturbing in the end that there's that one guy that is openly coming on to children and everyone is totally ok with it


I just kind of take it he's joking.

Most of the time.

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voltch
03/15/12 4:16:00 AM
#33:


No mention of Genocyber?

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Westbrick
03/15/12 4:17:00 AM
#34:


Well, I think I goofed. Upon going from episode 4 to episode 5, I was completely confused about what the hell was going on, so I used Google to make sure I didn't miss anything obvious and... sort of ruined the show. Whoops. I really should have asked here first, damn. Seems really interesting with all the *SPOILERS*





time loop stuff and whatnot, as well as the god actually existing.



*END SPOILERS*

I assume this makes the anime not so much worth watching, yeah? Unfortunate.

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dexter28
03/15/12 4:22:00 AM
#35:


There are worse things that you could have seen. Knowing either of those things will ruin not Higurashi at all.

It's not like you spoiled Umineko or something.

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pjbasis
03/15/12 4:24:00 AM
#36:


The time loop stuff is really just a cool premise, it's not the true mystery.

Keep watching bro.

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Westbrick
03/15/12 4:25:00 AM
#37:


Well, here's a laundry list of what was spoiled. Let me know if it's still worth continuing:

*SPOILERS*



-everything revolves around a series of time loops
-by the end of the second season, everybody remembers and uses this awareness to defeat Tanako, who's been responsible for the loops
-the ability to redo things was given by the Shrine God, who exists on a higher plane



*END SPOILERS*


If I did indeed ruin this baby beyond repair, then any other suggestions for what to watch next would be great.

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Leebo86
03/15/12 4:27:00 AM
#38:


What did you do, read a full synopsis from beginning to end and then realize you might not want to do that?

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kurtfisto
03/15/12 4:28:00 AM
#39:


welp

might as well watch it for the execution and some shock moments

but goddamn you

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dexter28
03/15/12 4:29:00 AM
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Oh whelp knowing that second thing beforehand kind of blows. The other two aren't that big a deal.

I don't know if I'd say it's ruined beyond repair. Watching the first season at the play out should still be good even knowing all of that. I've forgotten exactly how the second season goes and what you're supposed to know at that point so I won't speak on that.

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Westbrick
03/15/12 4:34:00 AM
#41:


Honestly, I'm just going to make a judgment call and pass on this one. Trust me, I am really disappointed. Had I the sense ahead of time, I would've vented my frustrations with the episode 4-5 jump here just to make sure things would work out in the end. (By the way, I've seen the infamous execution scene previously, so nothing missed there.)

So what should I jump to next? Higurashi's put me in the mood for something with a similarly complex plot, but the dark/disturbing stuff is still a priority too. At the very least, this Higurashi experience has shown than B8 knows good anime!

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Liquid Wiind
03/15/12 4:34:00 AM
#42:


still worth watching IMO, each arc leaves a few questions that are answered in other arcs, really you only ruined the end of the second season I think where it started getting worse ANYWAY

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Wanglicious
03/15/12 4:37:00 AM
#43:


still watch. the journey matters more than the end here, especially as the end doesn't completely make sense (still better at it than Umineko by a lot however).
but what the hell how'd you spoil so much.

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Wanglicious
03/15/12 4:39:00 AM
#44:


and yeah, the only thing that really matters which you spoiled was the 2nd one. 1st you figure out real quick, 3rd is 'whatever.' if anything since you know the ending and can't just... forget it, go for clues. but the show's strong point is how ****ed up everything gets. quitting without even watching episode 4 is a big mistake there. <_<;

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Liquid Wiind
03/15/12 4:41:00 AM
#45:


he did watch 4, episode 5 is the start of the second arc. if that summary is all he knows though then he is missing the other major mechanic entirely too...
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Westbrick
03/15/12 5:15:00 AM
#46:


Moving on then.

Elfen Lied Episode 1

Great pilot episode. Opening scene really hooks you in, animation is great, violence is crisp and enjoyably excessive, and the premise seems promising. On the downside, dialogue's a little stilted, but seems less character-driven and more action-driven, so it's acceptable!

8/10

P.S. I miss Higurashi :(

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kurtfisto
03/15/12 5:33:00 AM
#47:


Elfen Lied is so much worse than Higurashi...

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Leebo86
03/15/12 5:34:00 AM
#48:


Yeah, Elfen Lied is pretty much mostly shock violence. I do love the OP/main theme though.

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saveus_Maria
03/15/12 5:53:00 AM
#49:


you spoiled yourself on the entire series

how does this even happen

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Westbrick
03/15/12 1:52:00 PM
#50:


Elfen Lied Episode 2

Pretty badass getting to see Lucy come back in full force, but I'm worried that the anime is going to devolve into protagonist-remains-oblivious mode for the next several episodes. Speaking of which, his total naivete makes it hard for me to care about him, and I find myself siding against Nyuu instead of with her. Was this intentional? Not sure. Still, the violence and unique action are enough to warrant this one a decent score.

6/10

I might jump back to Higurashi in a while. I'm just furious that I spoiled what seems like an incredible plot for myself simply out of impatience; I'm normally above that sort of thing. If I do, however, it might not be for a while. March Madness baby!

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