Board 8 > Oh boy oh boy, who's ready for more on-disk DLC drama? (SFxT)

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tereziWright
03/03/12 8:01:00 PM
#1:


http://kotaku.com/5890253/sounds-like-those-vita+only-street-fighter-x-tekken-characters-are-on+disc-dlc-for-the-console-versions

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GuessMyUserName
03/03/12 8:04:00 PM
#2:


pretty sure everybody already knows Capcom is the absolute worst DLC company of the generation

this should be expected tbqh

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BIGPUN9999
03/03/12 8:04:00 PM
#3:


well, this is horse s***

but at least I can use my sweet Elena on my 360

<3


wait, what about MM and Pacman, are they on the 360 disc? >____>

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paulg235
03/03/12 8:06:00 PM
#4:


No, they already confirmed no exclusives for the 360, including Mega/Pac.

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OctilIery
03/03/12 8:11:00 PM
#6:


This is the only time I've ever felt whining about on disk DLC is justified.

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Ngamer64
03/03/12 8:16:00 PM
#7:


I've heard that the CHARACTERS are not on the disks, only these intro videos.

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OmarsComin
03/03/12 8:16:00 PM
#8:


well that sucks. one part of me wants to go "**** you capcom, I'm not paying for already on disc character DLC" and the other part of me suspected this was true all along and really is looking forward to playing Elena.

lame!

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Justin_Crossing
03/03/12 8:17:00 PM
#9:


how many characters does sfxt have without the 12 bonus? (4 PS3 exclusives included)

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GranzonEx
03/03/12 8:22:00 PM
#10:


XFD people considering buying vanilla SFxT.

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OctilIery
03/03/12 8:23:00 PM
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From: GranzonEx | #010
XFD people considering buying SFxT.


Fixed.

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skull_bonek23
03/03/12 8:25:00 PM
#12:


Yeah Ono tweeted something the other day about the trouble they're having making Blanka work in the game. These new characters aren't done yet

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Biolizard28
03/03/12 8:27:00 PM
#13:


From: Justin_Crossing | #009
how many characters does sfxt have without the 12 bonus? (4 PS3 exclusives included)


Including the five exclusives, 43.

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Ngamer64
03/03/12 8:27:00 PM
#14:


Justin_Crossing posted...
how many characters does sfxt have without the 12 bonus? (4 PS3 exclusives included)

38.

SF Tekken
Ryu Kazuya
Ken Nina
Guile King
Abel Marduk
Chun-Li Bob
Cammy Julia
Sagat Hwoarang
Dhalsim Steve
Poison Yoshimitsu
Hugo Raven
Ibuki Kuma
Rolento Heihachi
Zangief Lili
Rufus Asuka
Balrog Law
Vega Paul
Juri Xiaoyu
M. Bison Jin
Akuma Ogre

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Helba QotD
03/03/12 8:28:00 PM
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I'm glad a glitch exists that lets you access all the UMvC3 costumes (Including Magneto).
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Ngamer64
03/03/12 8:29:00 PM
#16:


Well 38 + Cole/MM/Pac-Man and the 2 cats to get to 43 on the PS3.

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Justin_Crossing
03/03/12 8:30:00 PM
#17:


thanks, Ngamer!

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Seisen_Kitsune
03/03/12 8:30:00 PM
#18:


wait, what about MM and Pacman, are they on the 360 disc? >____>

About as much data on them as on the PS3 version. PS3 has to download them (For free) on the 13th. There's no word on the 360 version; either they're coming later or Capcom made the decision to remove them pretty late in development. No one knows for sure.

And so far those 12 characters don't appear to be complete. All this proves is that they're working on the 12 characters and going to release them later, which we already knew.

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BIGPUN9999
03/03/12 8:30:00 PM
#19:


From: Helba QotD | #015
I'm glad a glitch exists that lets you access all the UMvC3 costumes (Including Magneto).


go awwwwwn

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OmarsComin
03/03/12 8:32:00 PM
#20:


Yeah Ono tweeted something the other day about the trouble they're having making Blanka work in the game.

I have a solution for this, I think we can all agree on

don't put Blanka in the game

actually to be safe never put Blanka in any game ever again

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Biolizard28
03/03/12 8:32:00 PM
#21:


From: Seisen_Kitsune | #018
And so far those 12 characters don't appear to be complete. All this proves is that they're working on the 12 characters and going to release them later, which we already knew.


And exactly this.

Capcom has had some shady DLC practices, still does. This is not the worst thing they've ever done, though. Hell, it makes sense.

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Justin_Crossing
03/03/12 8:33:00 PM
#22:


From: Biolizard28 | #019
And exactly this.

Capcom has had some shady DLC practices, still does. This is not the worst thing they've ever done, though. Hell, it makes sense.


It's also the exact same reason that Mass Effect 3 has on-disc DLC. They just finished it before it got released. Yet people still freaked the **** out.

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Weakupedia
03/03/12 8:34:00 PM
#23:


data on the disc =/= finished characters

capcom has been pretty lame about DLC as of late, but it definitely seems like these final 12 characters are still works in progress. intro/ending movies and models could just as well be placeholders to make downloads that much smaller. not that i like the idea of buying 12 characters as dlc, but any extra content worked on after the game goes gold is just that; extra content. in days past, these characters might have just been unfinished products due to time constraints, so it's nice that we're given the option to buy them at all.

i just hope capcom doesn't charge something ridiculous like $5 a character

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Biolizard28
03/03/12 8:34:00 PM
#24:


From: Justin_Crossing | #022
It's also the exact same reason that Mass Effect 3 has on-disc DLC. They just finished it before it got released. Yet people still freaked the **** out.


Um... okay?

I'm not responsible for Bioware fans.

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Justin_Crossing
03/03/12 8:35:00 PM
#25:


From: Biolizard28 | #022
Um... okay?

I'm not responsible for Bioware fans.


I know. I was just saying it as a general statement that people freak out too much about on-disc DLC.

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Helba QotD
03/03/12 8:35:00 PM
#26:


BIGPUN9999 posted...
From: Helba QotD | #015
I'm glad a glitch exists that lets you access all the UMvC3 costumes (Including Magneto).
go awwwwwn


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/637240-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3/62129400

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redrocket
03/03/12 8:44:00 PM
#27:


Companies are going to keep doing this, forever, until gamers simply stop buying their games

So if you are one of the people who complain about DLC but still buy games from these companies....

you're a f***ing idiot.

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foolm0ron
03/03/12 8:45:00 PM
#28:


This would be more enraging if it wasn't entirely expected.

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Wanglicious
03/03/12 8:47:00 PM
#29:


capcom doing lame stuff with dlc characters.
next you'll tell me there's gonna be a Super SFxT

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Anagram
03/03/12 8:56:00 PM
#30:


Capcom is horrible

News at eleven

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TheArkOfTurus
03/03/12 8:58:00 PM
#31:


Are people just commenting on this without reading anything?

This might be the least offensive DLC Capcom's ever done.

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BIGPUN9999
03/03/12 9:03:00 PM
#32:


From: Helba QotD | #026
BIGPUN9999 posted...
From: Helba QotD | #015
I'm glad a glitch exists that lets you access all the UMvC3 costumes (Including Magneto).
go awwwwwn


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/637240-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3/62129400

Need at least Jill or Shuma to make it work.


interesting

kinda sucks you can't do it permanently, but still neat

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WazzupGenius00
03/03/12 9:06:00 PM
#33:


plus now that it's out there and known it's gonna get patched

but yeah lol people who can't read a three paragraph article and immediately jumped to the worst conclusion. They said just last week that they're having trouble getting Blanka to work well in the game so obviously the characters are not complete

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TheArkOfTurus
03/03/12 9:08:00 PM
#34:


From: WazzupGenius00 | #033
plus now that it's out there and known it's gonna get patched

but yeah lol people who can't read a three paragraph article and immediately jumped to the worst conclusion. They said just last week that they're having trouble getting Blanka to work well in the game so obviously the characters are not complete


Well, to be fair, the article is sensationalist as all hell. Only a small part of the article indicates that the characters aren't finished.

Kotaku really sucks.

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ff6man
03/03/12 9:09:00 PM
#35:


Been boycotting capcom for a year now, glad to know they still aren't giving me any reason to stop doing so.

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Wanglicious
03/03/12 9:11:00 PM
#36:


i'll be honest - i didn't read it no.
just that you already know there's gonna be an updated version within the year that has these guys anyway so why bother.

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TheArkOfTurus
03/03/12 9:14:00 PM
#37:


From: Wanglicious | #036
i'll be honest - i didn't read it no.
just that you already know there's gonna be an updated version within the year that has these guys anyway so why bother.


Capcom keeps swearing to hell and back that updates will be DLC like SF4 Arcade edition.

They're probably lying, but still!

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Team Rocket Elite
03/03/12 9:18:00 PM
#38:


Is it really that difficult to remove DLC content from the disk? It sounds to me that that would be an easy way to deal with complaints regarding on disk DLC.

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ZFS
03/03/12 9:33:00 PM
#39:


Nah, there will be a digital update. That was a lucrative decision for them with AE.

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Dauntless Hunter
03/03/12 9:40:00 PM
#40:


From: BIGPUN9999 | #019
go awwwwwn


Basically:

1) Pick a character you do have the alternate costume for (I think you might need to pick Color 1? Not sure about that)
2) Highlight the character whose alternate costume you want
3) Press B, taking you back to the assist select for the first character
4) Press B again (deselecting the first character and returning your cursor to where it was, on the second character) and then very quickly press LB to select the alt.

If you press LB too fast nothing will happen and you'll still be on Color 1, and if you press it too slow you'll get Color 6. But if you time it JUUUUST right you'll get Color Alt. Of course, you can only do this for the first two characters on your team.

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Dauntless Hunter
03/03/12 9:48:00 PM
#41:


From: Team Rocket Elite | #038
Is it really that difficult to remove DLC content from the disk? It sounds to me that that would be an easy way to deal with complaints regarding on disk DLC.


I think at least part of the issue is how Sony runs PSN in regards to DLC. Basically, publishers get charged a fee by Sony based on how much bandwidth is used to download content from the PS Store; the more data downloaded, the bigger the fee. So it's in publishers' financial interests to put as much of the DLC as they can on-disc, or at least the bulky stuff like art assets and audio. That way they only get charged for 10 kB unlock keys, not 250+ MB files.

As far as I know, only Sony does this (Xbox Live subscription fees subsidize this cost on 360), but obviously it doesn't make sense to bother pulling the content from the 360 disc only, so it becomes standard practice on all platforms.

Not to mention there's probably plenty of consumers who don't mind on-disc DLC (or possibly don't understand what "on-disc DLC" is) who would just be annoyed by such a change, since it would make DLC take a lot longer to download.

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JJH777
03/03/12 10:24:00 PM
#42:


DLC shouldn't be charged for at all whether or not it is already on the disc. Take the time to make a complete expansion or release extra content for free. Tons of PC games got free DLC before this gen made developers realize how incredibly dumb their customers are. You are paying $5-10 for something that takes them like 1% of the effort that making the game itself took.

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StealThisSheen
03/03/12 10:45:00 PM
#43:


JJH777 posted...
DLC shouldn't be charged for at all whether or not it is already on the disc. Take the time to make a complete expansion or release extra content for free. Tons of PC games got free DLC before this gen made developers realize how incredibly dumb their customers are. You are paying $5-10 for something that takes them like 1% of the effort that making the game itself took.


Yes... Charge people $40+ for a complete expansion of (the exact same game with) some stuff they want and maybe some stuff they don't, instead of giving them the choice, or... Never have DLC for console games to begin with, because you'd lose money for providing nothing but free DLC.

Brilliant.



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Metal_DK
03/03/12 10:49:00 PM
#44:


the question isnt about more DLC drama, its what is the breaking point for the majority of gamers

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Aecioo
03/03/12 10:53:00 PM
#45:


Can't believe people are surprised at this.

Capcom has been doing this for years and at this point I just kind of assume there is on disc DLC for almost all of their games.

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Metal_DK
03/03/12 10:53:00 PM
#46:


im at the point where i just laugh at console gamers and how they treat online services/play.

but i will say this much. If Starcraft 2 was the first game in the series and released in 2009, blizzard would have given the "we need money for the servers" speech and people woulda paid $9.99 a month to play SC2 online.

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StealThisSheen
03/03/12 10:54:00 PM
#47:


Now that I've actually read the full topic, I'm willing to bet that maybe 10% of the people posting in this actually read the link.



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LeonhartFour
03/03/12 10:54:00 PM
#48:


Posting to bring the number under 10%

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TheArkOfTurus
03/03/12 10:58:00 PM
#49:


On a related note, the models for the new characters (and some/all of the DLC costumes) are also on the disc.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/mar/03/models-street-fighter-x-tekken-characters-and-alternate-costumes-disc/

Doesn't really say anything about how finished the characters are, but kinda interesting.

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Aecioo
03/03/12 10:58:00 PM
#50:


StealThisSheen posted...
Now that I've actually read the full topic, I'm willing to bet that maybe 10% of the people posting in this actually read the link.

Oh I read it, and I think it's more likely that it is on disc DLC than it being just some Vita tie in with the PS3.

Because Capcom has been doing this for years.

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