From: TheRock1525 | #348
XIII and Icehawk went at it pretty good in board8chat.
Oh man I hope someone saved this.
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Rad Link 5 02/27/12 9:56:00 PM #351: |
From: TheRock1525 | #348 Oh man I hope someone saved this. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/2017/13772197m.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 9:59:00 PM #352: |
I've learned at this point that I disagree with a lot of people on The Rock here so I'm to the point where I'm just going to enjoy The Rock being back.
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SHINE GET 64 02/27/12 10:00:00 PM #353: |
it'll just be more delicious when The Rock wins at Wrestlemania!
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Rad Link 5 02/27/12 10:00:00 PM #354: |
Well of course. You shouldn't stop enjoying something just because we don't.
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Lopen 02/27/12 10:04:00 PM #355: |
Honestly I think Austin's a better actor than The Rock, generally. Granted he doesn't play nearly as wide a variety of roles that The Rock does so that's probably part of it.
But Rock isn't a bad actor. The Rundown is an A++ movie. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 02/27/12 10:05:00 PM #356: |
From: Rad Link 5 | #351 Icehawk was calling me naive and I said he was so cynical about the rock he'd actually wrapped back around to naive a lot of naivety, all in all. -- "'What is your wife orbits my dick' sounds like you're trying to insult Alex Trebek." - Sir Cobain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 10:06:00 PM #357: |
I will be honest, if The Rock wins at Wrestlemania you will never hear the end of it from me.
Although I know Rock will do the job. The guy has never shied away from jobbing for the sake of the business. He never won a WM main event despite appearing in it 3 years in a row, he jobbed to guys like Brock Lesnar, Chris Jericho, and Bill Goldberg. Hell, he jobbed clean-ish to the Hurricane and made people actually interested in him! I fully expect to Cena beat Rock, Rock shake Cena's hand after the match, and they pose together Hogan/Rock style from WM18. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 10:08:00 PM #358: |
Austin is very good at playing... Austin.
He's got no range whatsoever. I remember watching him on Nash Bridges. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 02/27/12 10:09:00 PM #359: |
Yeah Austin in the Expendables was pretty much just Austin as well.
I mean Rock doesn't have great range either, but yeah. -- http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5261/5567070428_ee1dcd3590.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 02/27/12 10:10:00 PM #360: |
From: Lopen | #355 Now this, I have trouble believing. I've never seen an Austin movie, but I can't see him as being good in films. I'm trying to think of wrestlers who probably could be good Hollywood actors, and I don't think there are many, really. In the chat we seemed to agree that Edge could probably do it. But anyway, and I'm just doing this to kill time since it doesn't really matter, but look at Punk's wrists at around 1:05 I guess. There's nothing written on them. Like I said, it doesn't matter ultimately, but I thought I'd check anyway. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i41.tinypic.com/f3xgrc.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 02/27/12 10:11:00 PM #361: |
He plays Austin pretty well though. I've seen a lot of Austin's movies-- they're mostly b-grade stuff but his performance in them has always been pretty good.
I mean it's like every Arnold Schwarzenegger movie he's the same guy but I'd call him a better actor than the Rock too. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 02/27/12 10:12:00 PM #362: |
From: Rad Link 5 | #359 3:05. Right after he says "best wrestler in the world". I thought it was a commonly accepted thing that wrestlers did this every now and then. I'm pretty sure this was discussed after the promo itself, actually -- http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/xiiioneshieldpngys.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 10:15:00 PM #363: |
Lopen posted...
He plays Austin pretty well though. I've seen a lot of Austin's movies-- they're mostly b-grade stuff but his performance in them has always been pretty good. I mean it's like every Arnold Schwarzenegger movie he's the same guy but I'd call him a better actor than the Rock too. But that's the thing: if you tailor-made a role to a person's strengths, that doesn't make them a good actor so much as a typecast. A dead body isn't a good actor because it happens to be good at playing a dead body. Rock actually tried a decent amount of different roles, with limited success, but whenever Arnold tried to move outside his typecast he was atrociously bad. Like Jingle All the Way.. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 02/27/12 10:15:00 PM #364: |
Uh.
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Rad Link 5 02/27/12 10:16:00 PM #365: |
From: XIII_rocks | #362 3:10, you can get a pretty clear view of his wrists and see that there's nothing written on it. He just looks at his wrists a lot. Like I said, it's not a big deal if he did. But it doesn't look like he did. I don't see anything written on either of his wrists. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i56.tinypic.com/9lh3t3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 10:16:00 PM #366: |
XIII_rocks posted...
From: Rad Link 5 | #359 There's nothing written on them. Like I said, it doesn't matter ultimately, but I thought I'd check anyway. 3:05. Right after he says "best wrestler in the world". I thought it was a commonly accepted thing that wrestlers did this every now and then. I'm pretty sure this was discussed after the promo itself, actually You know, I wouldn't believe you but the wrist turn is way too deliberate not to be him reading something. I can even see the writing right afterwards, too. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 10:17:00 PM #367: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Uh. Jingle All the Way is f***ing phenomenal. For all the wrong reasons, yes. Also that one where he has a baby. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 02/27/12 10:17:00 PM #368: |
Acting isn't all about range. It's about being believable and selling the situations in the plot. If you're damn good at your typecast and it's something a bit more complex than a dead body then you're a good actor. Most actors are typecast to some extent. I'd say The Rock has probably played a wider variety of roles than Morgan Freeman but I doubt you're going to have anyone claiming Rock > Morgan Freeman as an actor.
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Rad Link 5 02/27/12 10:18:00 PM #369: |
I thought I saw writing at first, but then I realized it was just the folds of his uh... whatever you call that. Arm wraps.
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 10:22:00 PM #370: |
Rad Link 5 posted...
I thought I saw writing at first, but then I realized it was just the folds of his uh... whatever you call that. Arm wraps. You might be right, he's just very deliberate with his movements. Which is weird cause not once did I notice Rock look at his wrists. I'm going to have to re-watch it and see if I notice it. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 10:23:00 PM #371: |
Lopen posted...
Acting isn't all about range. It's about being believable and selling the situations in the plot. If you're damn good at your typecast and it's something a bit more complex than a dead body then you're a good actor. Most actors are typecast to some extent. I'd say The Rock has probably played a wider variety of roles than Morgan Freeman but I doubt you're going to have anyone claiming Rock > Morgan Freeman as an actor. Actually, I wouldn't say that Morgan Freeman has played less roles than Rock. He's played a lot, lot, lot more. It might be because everyone sees him as "friendly black guy with a soothing voice" nowadays but he's played to a huge variety. See, just like Austin is very good at playing Austin like characters, Rock is very good at playing Rock like characters, but Rock can also move outside that role a bit unlike Austin. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 02/27/12 10:30:00 PM #372: |
Well the thing about it is, The Rock doesn't usually have writing on his wrists. I went and checked his return last year to be sure (and if there's any promo where he'd probably need it, that'd be the one).
So either this is a CM Punk-esque work where they play off of the what the smarks think they know (in this case, the interview where Randy Orton says The Rock has his stuff written for him while John comes up with his own stuff on the fly) with a reference that would fly over most casual fans' heads, or The Rock is not used to doing that kind of promo and needed the notes, or The Rock had a lot of things he wanted to respond to Cena about and wanted to make sure he got it all. I'd normally automatically assume the first option, but I mean so many sources have been claiming there's backstage heat on The Rock for the past year, and that The Rock has not been happy about it, that the WWE has done some masterful screwing with us if this has all been a work. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i55.tinypic.com/2e1ubuw.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 02/27/12 10:32:00 PM #373: |
I think you're exaggerating how many roles Freeman has played-- I can only think of two, but I could name more if you like
Chris Rock Gary Sinise John Wayne Keanu Reeves Martin Lawrence Will Smith Sylvester Stallone Tim Allen I might be forgetting some roles of some of these guys but uhh, yeah, all of these actors at least have several movies where they're basically the same character. There are more, too! Most actors excel at a limited range of roles. I could probably name less actors I've seen play more than three roles well than actors I've seen play less. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 10:36:00 PM #374: |
To be fair, a lot of those guys you named I don't think of as good actors, either. Especially since some of their schticks and become tired and boring as their career went along. Like Keanu Reeves, I think he's a pretty bad actor, to be honest.
And c'mon, Will Smith played Ali. Will Smith has shown a lot of range beyond AW HELL NAH Smith. Like his role in Pursuit of Happiness. He might have a set perception but he's stepped outside of it and been very good, too. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 02/27/12 10:40:00 PM #375: |
See, now that Rock's actually here the feud is awesome. Rock's promo pre-Cena was kinda lame, and that crowd that loved him deserved better (What does "Kung Pao B****" even mean!?!), but once Cena came out they were both incredible.
I almost busted a gut when Rock insinuated that Triple H's rise to the top was in any way analogous to his or Austin's or Undertaker's or Foley's though. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 02/27/12 10:42:00 PM #376: |
I guess that's fair on Will Smith.
Anyway I'm just saying I don't think range is nearly the most important aspect for a good actor. Range just lets them play in more movies. Also how dare you dis Keanu Reeves. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 02/27/12 10:43:00 PM #377: |
From: JaKyL25 | #375 WWE Creative @WWE_Creative No one fought for @TheRock to get a push. He had to overcome the hurdle of being pushed to the moon from his debut. #RAWTonight This was somehow a great Raw that still allowed for a great night of @WWE_Creative. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i55.tinypic.com/2mcnjl.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GTM 02/27/12 10:43:00 PM #378: |
I am easily worked, yes
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 10:44:00 PM #379: |
To be fair, if Rocky Maivia didn't get a ridiculous push, there would have been no backlash that would create the most electrifying man in all of entertainment.
He would have gotten DiBiase'd -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 10:46:00 PM #380: |
Lopen posted...
I guess that's fair on Will Smith. Anyway I'm just saying I don't think range is nearly the most important aspect for a good actor. Range just lets them play in more movies. Also how dare you dis Keanu Reeves. I think I heard the best description of how to improve Matrix Reloaded: "Replacing Keanu Reeves with a wooden plank with a mean face on it. At least if they replaced him with a wooden plank, the plank would have an excuse to have the same stupid look on its face all the time." -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 02/27/12 10:48:00 PM #381: |
I'm not gonna bash him for being given a ridiculous push.
But it was pretty hilarious that he was talking about how backstage politics don't matter and no one fought for him. I almost think, between that and the writing on his arm, they're trying to split the smarks and the casuals. I just don't know why they'd do that. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/8823/therearepartsofmethatar.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Viktor Vaughn 02/27/12 10:49:00 PM #382: |
From: Rad Link 5 | #381 i think they honestly expected rock to be seen as a heel, and panicked when they realized everybody loves him no matter what -- bad advice http://www.last.fm/user/snowcampsoldier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 10:50:00 PM #383: |
It could be like the Hogan situation: have him act like a total heel, fans still love him anyway.
I still love him, so there's that! -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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edwardsdv 02/27/12 10:51:00 PM #384: |
So while you all were going at it we had a rip-roaring STUMP THE JAKYL, where....
Our contestants were Kommunist Koala, Dr. Football, and War and... War13104 TOOK THE OLD MAN DOWN. In the final round, it basically all came down to War naming 5 of the guys who played Doink, while JaKyl didn't know who appeared in the 1990 Halloween Havoc Main event in the THUNDERDOME. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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edwardsdv 02/27/12 10:52:00 PM #385: |
From: Rad Link 5 | #381 Its certainly an Unorthodox strategy! Getting the smarks on Cenas side does NOT seem like the obvious way to do that! -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Viktor Vaughn 02/27/12 10:52:00 PM #386: |
From: edwardsdv | #384 does that mean me and semi did pretty good against jakyl by proxy -- bad advice http://www.last.fm/user/snowcampsoldier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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edwardsdv 02/27/12 10:53:00 PM #387: |
sure.
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GTM 02/27/12 10:53:00 PM #388: |
completely ignoring how puro completely destroyed jakyl, eh
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Rad Link 5 02/27/12 10:53:00 PM #389: |
JaKyL has been dethroned.
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Rad Link 5 02/27/12 10:54:00 PM #390: |
Jak doesn't know puro?
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edwardsdv 02/27/12 10:56:00 PM #391: |
Neither of them did! You know its a strange category when not a single question gets answered right.
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JaKyL25 02/27/12 10:57:00 PM #392: |
So now next time it will be STUMP THE WAR and I will be one of the regular contestants!
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JaKyL25 02/27/12 11:02:00 PM #393: |
Thinking about it again, I love how Cena really unsettled The Rock's promo routine.
After Cena left, Rock was stammering and repeating himself like he was on the most basic of autopilots while his mind scrambled for a true retort. That was really interesting stuff. (AND YES I AM TALKING ABOUT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF KAYFABE, THIS IS ALL A WORK PEOPLE) -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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edwardsdv 02/27/12 11:03:00 PM #394: |
From: JaKyL25 | #393 Yeah I feel like we really needed to see this new swag-er Cena that came out of the Kane feud finally able to truly one-up the Rock at what is supposedly Rock's big strength. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SemiFinal vs Belarus 02/27/12 11:05:00 PM #395: |
Not to put down Jakyl or War, but Snowyfinal vs. Belarus, Ltd. wouldn't have botched the puro category.
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 11:06:00 PM #396: |
Just curious, is The Rock appearing live again next week? I know he's schedule from here on out.
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Rad Link 5 02/27/12 11:07:00 PM #397: |
From: JaKyL25 | #393 STOP BEING SUCH A KILLJOY, GAWD If this is a work, they wouldn't have put the writing on The Rock's wrists unless they wanted us to think it wasn't a work! -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img.imgcake.com/radflanjpgeq.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WarThaNemesis2 02/27/12 11:08:00 PM #398: |
American-born IWGP Champions is about as easy for American audiences as it gets.
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Rad Link 5 02/27/12 11:08:00 PM #399: |
Well looking at the chat log, to be absolutely fair, asking for all the American-born IWGP Heavyweight Champions probably should have been a two-point question. I'm not sure what's a good one-point question on Puro, though. Maybe "name two American-born IWGP Heavyweight Champions."
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JaKyL25 02/27/12 11:09:00 PM #400: |
From: Rad Link 5 | #398 Hey, whether or not an angle is real has no bearing on how good it is, in fact if it's fake that means it's probably better! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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