Board 8 > So Excadrill got banned? [Pokemon]

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XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:23:00 PM #1:	Shows how out of the loop I've been the last year or so. Seems a bit ridiculous. He was a top threat at the start of BW but certainly not unbeatable or "uber". Whole metagame just seems a bit clusterf*y now tbqh. -- http://i.imgur.com/LjoWT.png <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832789] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Shows how out of the loop I've been the last year or so.Seems a bit ridiculous. He was a top threat at the start of BW but certainly not unbeatable or "uber". Whole metagame just seems a bit clusterf*y now tbqh. -- http://i.imgur.com/LjoWT.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VitalVI 02/23/12 8:24:00 PM #2:	yeah I questioned this awhile back. So i've just been using my friends motto ** Smogon. -- big rigs is game of the ever <cite>VitalVI posted [p:832790] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> yeah I questioned this awhile back.So i've just been using my friends motto** Smogon. -- big rigs is game of the ever </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Natwaf_akidna 02/23/12 8:25:00 PM #3:	Speed seems to be the main reason. Same deal with Drizzle+Swift Swimmers, isn't it? -- My Little Phineas and Ferb: Summer is Magic! Aww, I lost to SuperNiceDog, Winner of the Rivalry Rumble Guru Contest <cite>Natwaf_akidna posted [p:832791] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Speed seems to be the main reason.Same deal with Drizzle+Swift Swimmers, isn't it? -- My Little Phineas and Ferb: Summer is Magic!Aww, I lost to SuperNiceDog, Winner of the Rivalry Rumble Guru Contest </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VitalVI 02/23/12 8:25:00 PM #4:	smogon players : OH MAN GARCHOMP SO OP CAUSE WE TOO LAZY TO HAVE ICEBEAM ON OUR TEAM. BAN PLZ. -- http://gifsoup.com/view5/3351149/ringtone-dance-o.gif <cite>VitalVI posted [p:832792] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> smogon players : OH MAN GARCHOMP SO OP CAUSE WE TOO LAZY TO HAVE ICEBEAM ON OUR TEAM. BAN PLZ. -- http://gifsoup.com/view5/3351149/ringtone-dance-o.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:26:00 PM #5:	From: VitalVI \| #004 smogon players : OH MAN GARCHOMP SO OP CAUSE WE TOO LAZY TO HAVE ICEBEAM ON OUR TEAM. BAN PLZ. Garchomp's ban was fair, I have to hand it to them. Salamence on the other hand, euw no. -- http://i.imgur.com/LjoWT.png <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832793] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: VitalVI \| #004smogon players : OH MAN GARCHOMP SO OP CAUSE WE TOO LAZY TO HAVE ICEBEAM ON OUR TEAM. BAN PLZ.Garchomp's ban was fair, I have to hand it to them. Salamence on the other hand, euw no. -- http://i.imgur.com/LjoWT.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GenesisSaga 02/23/12 8:26:00 PM #6:	Really? -- Courtesy of fr0q - http://img.imgcake.com/gensagajpgqe.jpg Punny worked hard on this! - http://img.imgcake.com/Punny/Gennypngas.png <cite>GenesisSaga posted [p:832794] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Really? -- Courtesy of fr0q - http://img.imgcake.com/gensagajpgqe.jpg Punny worked hard on this! - http://img.imgcake.com/Punny/Gennypngas.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:27:00 PM #7:	The worst thing when you argue with Smogon rulings is the self-righteous douchebags who say "if you don't like it, play by somebody else's rules". Which is obviously not omly completely missing the point, it's dumb, because everybody plays by Smogon's rules. They set the standard, it's not as simple as just "oh well I'll just start my own little ruleset" now is it. -- http://i45.tinypic.com/2jdhsno.gif <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832795] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> The worst thing when you argue with Smogon rulings is the self-righteous douchebags who say "if you don't like it, play by somebody else's rules".Which is obviously not omly completely missing the point, it's dumb, because everybody plays by Smogon's rules. They set the standard, it's not as simple as just "oh well I'll just start my own little ruleset" now is it. -- http://i45.tinypic.com/2jdhsno.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VitalVI 02/23/12 8:28:00 PM #8:	From: XIII_rocks \| #006 Garchomp's ban was fair, I have to hand it to them. Salamence on the other hand, euw no. Uh thats why some top plays like Dys, disagreed with it. And he doesn't even use Garchomp! -- big rigs is game of the ever <cite>VitalVI posted [p:832796] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: XIII_rocks \| #006Garchomp's ban was fair, I have to hand it to them. Salamence on the other hand, euw no.Uh thats why some top plays like Dys, disagreed with it.And he doesn't even use Garchomp! -- big rigs is game of the ever </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:28:00 PM #9:	From: GenesisSaga \| #007 Really? Yeah I was just looking through some analysis of Pokemon for old times' sake, since Smogon finally got them up after like a year. Went to Excadrill's page and he's uber now. Lame. Thundurus is gone as well which makes a bit more sense. -- http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/7351/xiiirocks.jpg <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832797] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: GenesisSaga \| #007Really?Yeah I was just looking through some analysis of Pokemon for old times' sake, since Smogon finally got them up after like a year. Went to Excadrill's page and he's uber now. Lame.Thundurus is gone as well which makes a bit more sense. -- http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/7351/xiiirocks.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blindhobo13 02/23/12 8:29:00 PM #10:	Excadrill was pretty damn good. I don't know if it deserved to be banned but I don't think it was completely unwarranted. -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! <cite>blindhobo13 posted [p:832798] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Excadrill was pretty damn good. I don't know if it deserved to be banned but I don't think it was completely unwarranted. -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GenesisSaga 02/23/12 8:30:00 PM #11:	Excadrill doesn't seem that OP, but okay I guess. I don't really "do" the competitive scene, so I guess I just don't understand why. -- Courtesy of fr0q - http://img.imgcake.com/gensagajpgqe.jpg Punny worked hard on this! - http://img.imgcake.com/Punny/Gennypngas.png <cite>GenesisSaga posted [p:832799] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Excadrill doesn't seem that OP, but okay I guess. I don't really "do" the competitive scene, so I guess I just don't understand why. -- Courtesy of fr0q - http://img.imgcake.com/gensagajpgqe.jpg Punny worked hard on this! - http://img.imgcake.com/Punny/Gennypngas.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:30:00 PM #12:	From: VitalVI \| #008 Uh thats why some top plays like Dys, disagreed with it. And he doesn't even use Garchomp! "some" I mean it's debatable, but it's a lot less debatable than Salamence for example. In the end Garchomp centralized a bit and with Yache Berry it was hard to beat without losing a Pokemon, which sucks. Were there legit arguments against it, though? Absolutely. I'm just not going to call bulls* on it like with Excadrill and Mence. -- "I trolled all of you." - Chris Jericho <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832800] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: VitalVI \| #008Uh thats why some top plays like Dys, disagreed with it.And he doesn't even use Garchomp!"some"I mean it's debatable, but it's a lot less debatable than Salamence for example. In the end Garchomp centralized a bit and with Yache Berry it was hard to beat without losing a Pokemon, which sucks. Were there legit arguments against it, though? Absolutely. I'm just not going to call bulls* on it like with Excadrill and Mence. -- "I trolled all of you." - Chris Jericho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
facepaImer 02/23/12 8:31:00 PM #13:	Excadrill is broken with infinite sandstream you have to have like two dedicated counters just to take out one pokemon same with Chomp with the berry that reduces super effective ice damage chomp can easily set up and sweep whole teams -- http://img.imgcake.com/palmerjpgan.jpg <cite>facepaImer posted [p:832801] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Excadrill is broken with infinite sandstreamyou have to have like two dedicated counters just to take out one pokemonsame with Chompwith the berry that reduces super effective ice damage chomp can easily set up and sweep whole teams -- http://img.imgcake.com/palmerjpgan.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VitalVI 02/23/12 8:32:00 PM #14:	Well atleast we agree that Mence and Excadrill were uber'd for BS reasons. -- http://gifsoup.com/view5/3351149/ringtone-dance-o.gif <cite>VitalVI posted [p:832802] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Well atleast we agree that Mence and Excadrill were uber'd for BS reasons. -- http://gifsoup.com/view5/3351149/ringtone-dance-o.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blindhobo13 02/23/12 8:32:00 PM #15:	From: GenesisSaga \| #011 Excadrill doesn't seem that OP, but okay I guess. I don't really "do" the competitive scene, so I guess I just don't understand why. Sand Rush DOUBLES its speed in Sand. 135 base attack and can get off a SD really easily. You can give it a balloon to raise its chances since it gets rid of one of its weaknesses. Start beasting. -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! <cite>blindhobo13 posted [p:832803] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: GenesisSaga \| #011Excadrill doesn't seem that OP, but okay I guess. I don't really "do" the competitive scene, so I guess I just don't understand why.Sand Rush DOUBLES its speed in Sand. 135 base attack and can get off a SD really easily. You can give it a balloon to raise its chances since it gets rid of one of its weaknesses. Start beasting. -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrinceKaro 02/23/12 8:33:00 PM #16:	Infinite auto-weather is what the problem is. That is what should be banned, not Excadrill. -- SuperNiceDog is about 20% cooler then the other gurus. <cite>PrinceKaro posted [p:832804] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Infinite auto-weather is what the problem is. That is what should be banned, not Excadrill. -- SuperNiceDog is about 20% cooler then the other gurus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VitalVI 02/23/12 8:34:00 PM #17:	From: PrinceKaro \| #016 Infinite auto-weather is what the problem is. That is what should be banned, not Excadrill. this so much -- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3403316/guild-ho-o.gif <cite>VitalVI posted [p:832805] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: PrinceKaro \| #016Infinite auto-weather is what the problem is. That is what should be banned, not Excadrill.this so much -- http://gifsoup.com/view2/3403316/guild-ho-o.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:35:00 PM #18:	From: GenesisSaga \| #011 Excadrill doesn't seem that OP, but okay I guess. I don't really "do" the competitive scene, so I guess I just don't understand why. Its speed doubles in sand, it has access to Swords Dance, an attack stat on par with Metagross' and it can negate a weakness temporarily with balloon. All sounds great until you realize it has weaknesses to water, ground (w/o balloon) and fire and is both frail and generally predictable. Good but not uber was the general consensus when I stopped playing. The second-most surprising part of my little trek through the current scene: Chandelure is UU now. I'd have called you mad if you'd told me that when the games came out. -- http://www.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/4834/big-boss.jpg <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832806] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: GenesisSaga \| #011Excadrill doesn't seem that OP, but okay I guess. I don't really "do" the competitive scene, so I guess I just don't understand why.Its speed doubles in sand, it has access to Swords Dance, an attack stat on par with Metagross' and it can negate a weakness temporarily with balloon.All sounds great until you realize it has weaknesses to water, ground (w/o balloon) and fire and is both frail and generally predictable. Good but not uber was the general consensus when I stopped playing.The second-most surprising part of my little trek through the current scene: Chandelure is UU now. I'd have called you mad if you'd told me that when the games came out. -- http://www.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/4834/big-boss.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:36:00 PM #19:	Oh and yeah the weather dominance absolutely sucks. -- XIII_rocks: He's British <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832807] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Oh and yeah the weather dominance absolutely sucks. -- XIII_rocks: He's British </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GenesisSaga 02/23/12 8:37:00 PM #20:	*XIII_rocks posted...* Chandelure is UU now. I'd have called you mad if you'd told me that when the games came out. ... The world doesn't make sense anymore. -- Courtesy of fr0q - http://img.imgcake.com/gensagajpgqe.jpg Punny worked hard on this! - http://img.imgcake.com/Punny/Gennypngas.png <cite>GenesisSaga posted [p:832808] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> XIII_rocks posted...Chandelure is UU now. I'd have called you mad if you'd told me that when the games came out....The world doesn't make sense anymore. -- Courtesy of fr0q - http://img.imgcake.com/gensagajpgqe.jpg Punny worked hard on this! - http://img.imgcake.com/Punny/Gennypngas.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:37:00 PM #21:	Excadrill is broken with infinite sandstream you have to have like two dedicated counters just to take out one pokemon Two? ehhh no. -- "I wish I was French." - blindhobo13 "I don't think you know what "French" means." - As I Desire <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832809] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Excadrill is broken with infinite sandstreamyou have to have like two dedicated counters just to take out one pokemonTwo? ehhh no. -- "I wish I was French." - blindhobo13"I don't think you know what "French" means." - As I Desire </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blindhobo13 02/23/12 8:38:00 PM #22:	Honestly weather wars was the reason why I stopped playing for a while. ** gets mad lame after a while. But it's not outright broken so they have to do some stupid like complex bans to prevent it from overcentralizing the metagame. -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! <cite>blindhobo13 posted [p:832810] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Honestly weather wars was the reason why I stopped playing for a while. gets mad lame after a while. But it's not outright broken so they have to do some stupid ** like complex bans to prevent it from overcentralizing the metagame. -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blindhobo13 02/23/12 8:38:00 PM #23:	From: GenesisSaga \| #020 The world doesn't make sense anymore. I don't think its DW ability got released yet. Once it gets Shadow Tag expect that ** to go straight up. -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! <cite>blindhobo13 posted [p:832811] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: GenesisSaga \| #020The world doesn't make sense anymore.I don't think its DW ability got released yet. Once it gets Shadow Tag expect that ** to go straight up. -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrinceKaro 02/23/12 8:38:00 PM #24:	*XIII_rocks posted...* The second-most surprising part of my little trek through the current scene: Chandelure is UU now. I'd have called you mad if you'd told me that when the games came out. That's only because Smogon ignores DW abilities that haven't been 'officially' released. -- SuperNiceDog is about 20% cooler then the other gurus. <cite>PrinceKaro posted [p:832812] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> XIII_rocks posted...The second-most surprising part of my little trek through the current scene: Chandelure is UU now. I'd have called you mad if you'd told me that when the games came out.That's only because Smogon ignores DW abilities that haven't been 'officially' released. -- SuperNiceDog is about 20% cooler then the other gurus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:39:00 PM #25:	From: GenesisSaga \| #020 *XIII_rocks posted...* Chandelure is UU now. I'd have called you mad if you'd told me that when the games came out. ... The world doesn't make sense anymore. Well it's got a bad HP stat and has some bad weaknesses but...SpA almost on par with Mewtwo >_> That said I think it will be firmly back in OU once it officially gets Shadow Tag. I think right now Shadow Tag is technically illegal since none of the Smogon sets list it. -- "The great fallacy is that the game is first and foremost about winning. It's nothing of the kind. The game is about glory." - Danny Blanchflower <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832813] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: GenesisSaga \| #020XIII_rocks posted...Chandelure is UU now. I'd have called you mad if you'd told me that when the games came out....The world doesn't make sense anymore.Well it's got a bad HP stat and has some bad weaknesses but...SpA almost on par with Mewtwo >_>That said I think it will be firmly back in OU once it officially gets Shadow Tag. I think right now Shadow Tag is technically illegal since none of the Smogon sets list it. -- "The great fallacy is that the game is first and foremost about winning. It's nothing of the kind. The game is about glory." - Danny Blanchflower </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:39:00 PM #26:	Oh, right then. >_> -- XIII_rocks: He's British <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832814] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Oh, right then. >_> -- XIII_rocks: He's British </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 02/23/12 8:40:00 PM #27:	All Chandelure has going for it is that huge Special Attack stat. Anything it can do, Gengar can do better. -- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:832815] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> All Chandelure has going for it is that huge Special Attack stat. Anything it can do, Gengar can do better. -- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnkboy907 02/23/12 8:41:00 PM #28:	Thundurus? I thought Landorus was considered the best kami. -- First is mnk'boy'907, who looks fab with her gray skin and grandma poncho/shawl thing~ http://img.imgcake.com/nio/boypngbu.png - Nio <cite>mnkboy907 posted [p:832816] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Thundurus? I thought Landorus was considered the best kami. -- First is mnk'boy'907, who looks fab with her gray skin and grandma poncho/shawl thing~http://img.imgcake.com/nio/boypngbu.png - Nio </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Team Rocket Elite 02/23/12 8:42:00 PM #29:	You should play VGC style Doubles, then. Nintendo makes the rules so the players can't removing things they don't like. The UK Nationals is even coming up soon: http://www.pokemon.com/uk/play-pokemon/championship-series/united-kingdom-video-game-national-championships/ -- SuperNiceDog was not so nice to my bracket. Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Rivalry Rumble Guru Contest! <cite>Team Rocket Elite posted [p:832817] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> You should play VGC style Doubles, then. Nintendo makes the rules so the players can't removing things they don't like. The UK Nationals is even coming up soon:http://www.pokemon.com/uk/play-pokemon/championship-series/united-kingdom-video-game-national-championships/ -- SuperNiceDog was not so nice to my bracket.Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Rivalry Rumble Guru Contest! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:43:00 PM #30:	From: Mewtwo59 \| #027 All Chandelure has going for it is that huge Special Attack stat. Anything it can do, Gengar can do better. Except have a SpA on par with Mewtwo -- http://www.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/4834/big-boss.jpg <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832818] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: Mewtwo59 \| #027All Chandelure has going for it is that huge Special Attack stat. Anything it can do, Gengar can do better.Except have a SpA on par with Mewtwo -- http://www.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/4834/big-boss.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 02/23/12 8:43:00 PM #31:	You can punch holes in just about any team with Excadrill + Tyranitar. But then again any decent sweeper can do that in today's metagame. -- Black: 3310-7431-2094 <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:832819] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> You can punch holes in just about any team with Excadrill + Tyranitar.But then again any decent sweeper can do that in today's metagame. -- Black: 3310-7431-2094 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blindhobo13 02/23/12 8:44:00 PM #32:	From: XIII_rocks \| #030 Except have a SpA on par with Mewtwo Mewtwo's actually like 10 points higher and also has that 130 spd. -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! <cite>blindhobo13 posted [p:832820] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: XIII_rocks \| #030Except have a SpA on par with MewtwoMewtwo's actually like 10 points higher and also has that 130 spd. -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:45:00 PM #33:	From: XIII_rocks \| #030 Except have a SpA on par with Mewtwo And yes I know that is naive and dumb but THE FING POWER.* -- Luster Reloaded: Damn, that's some crazy s*. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832821] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: XIII_rocks \| #030Except have a SpA on par with MewtwoAnd yes I know that is naive and dumb but THE FING POWER. -- Luster Reloaded: Damn, that's some crazy s**. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charmander6000 02/23/12 8:45:00 PM #34:	Once you realize that smogon has a certain strength threshold that it uses to make the difference between Uber and OU the more sense things make. That's only because Smogon ignores DW abilities that haven't been 'officially' released. I personally feel that's dumb. You can give your pokemon max stats, but no to abilities that they are going to get. -- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the guru contest. <cite>charmander6000 posted [p:832822] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Once you realize that smogon has a certain strength threshold that it uses to make the difference between Uber and OU the more sense things make.That's only because Smogon ignores DW abilities that haven't been 'officially' released.I personally feel that's dumb. You can give your pokemon max stats, but no to abilities that they are going to get. -- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xlsCongrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the guru contest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:46:00 PM #35:	From: blindhobo13 \| #032 Mewtwo's actually like 10 points higher and also has that 130 spd. Alright it's like, base 7. The difference is really not that big And the speed stat is irrelevant. POWER. *THE POWER, MAN.* -- http://img.imgcake.com/22763810150194882301443717534644274676943735581nmu.jpg <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832823] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: blindhobo13 \| #032Mewtwo's actually like 10 points higher and also has that 130 spd.Alright it's like, base 7. The difference is really not that big And the speed stat is irrelevant. POWER. THE POWER, MAN. -- http://img.imgcake.com/22763810150194882301443717534644274676943735581nmu.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blindhobo13 02/23/12 8:47:00 PM #36:	Power is **** if you can't do anything with it. coughRampardoscough -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! <cite>blindhobo13 posted [p:832824] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Power is **** if you can't do anything with it.coughRampardoscough -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:48:00 PM #37:	Once you realize that smogon has a certain strength threshold that it uses to make the difference between Uber and OU the more sense things make. I always thought it was just "if this Pokemon can take out at least one Pokemon of any team without a Pokemon put there specifically to counter it, it's broken". -- http://i.imgur.com/LjoWT.png <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832825] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Once you realize that smogon has a certain strength threshold that it uses to make the difference between Uber and OU the more sense things make.I always thought it was just "if this Pokemon can take out at least one Pokemon of any team without a Pokemon put there specifically to counter it, it's broken". -- http://i.imgur.com/LjoWT.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:49:00 PM #38:	From: blindhobo13 \| #036 Power is **** if you can't do anything with it. coughRampardoscough I'm obviously not being serious here though the power alone is holy s* material -- http://i.minus.com/iUVnhKxM7l5DG.gif <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832826] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: blindhobo13 \| #036Power is ** if you can't do anything with it.coughRampardoscoughI'm obviously not being serious herethough the power alone is holy s*** material -- http://i.minus.com/iUVnhKxM7l5DG.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blindhobo13 02/23/12 8:50:00 PM #39:	From: XIII_rocks \| #038 I'm obviously not being serious here though the power alone is holy s*** material Yeah I know. Just saying. -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! <cite>blindhobo13 posted [p:832827] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: XIII_rocks \| #038I'm obviously not being serious herethough the power alone is holy s*** materialYeah I know. Just saying. -- I can't control it! SuperNiceDog RISES! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emporer_Kazbar 02/23/12 8:51:00 PM #40:	From: charmander6000 \| #034 I personally feel that's dumb. You can give your pokemon max stats, but no to abilities that they are going to get. It's possible without cheating (really hard, but possible) to get a Pokemon with max stats in game. It is impossible without cheating to get a Pokemon's unreleased DW ability. What's there to argue about? -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09) SuperNiceDog: Guru winner <cite>Emporer_Kazbar posted [p:832828] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> From: charmander6000 \| #034I personally feel that's dumb. You can give your pokemon max stats, but no to abilities that they are going to get.It's possible without cheating (really hard, but possible) to get a Pokemon with max stats in game.It is impossible without cheating to get a Pokemon's unreleased DW ability.What's there to argue about? -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09)SuperNiceDog: Guru winner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 02/23/12 8:52:00 PM #41:	Gengar's Special Attack is only 15 points lower and his speed is 30 points higher. Plus he gets perfect coverage with Shadow Ball and Focus Blast. He's got the power and he's able to use it. -- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:832829] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Gengar's Special Attack is only 15 points lower and his speed is 30 points higher. Plus he gets perfect coverage with Shadow Ball and Focus Blast. He's got the power and he's able to use it. -- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:53:00 PM #42:	Chandelure has perfect coverage with Shadow Ball and HIDDEN POWER FIGHTING. YEAAAAHHHH. -- http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/6.gif <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832830] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Chandelure has perfect coverage with Shadow Ball and HIDDEN POWER FIGHTING.YEAAAAHHHH. -- http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/6.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Team Rocket Elite 02/23/12 8:55:00 PM #43:	I personally feel that's dumb. You can give your pokemon max stats, but no to abilities that they are going to get. You can get perfect IVs from RNG abuse or even just from breeding. Impossible abilities are absolutely impossible right now. Also they won't necessarily be released in a way where Egg Moves are possible. -- SuperNiceDog was not so nice to my bracket. Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Rivalry Rumble Guru Contest! <cite>Team Rocket Elite posted [p:832831] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> I personally feel that's dumb. You can give your pokemon max stats, but no to abilities that they are going to get.You can get perfect IVs from RNG abuse or even just from breeding. Impossible abilities are absolutely impossible right now. Also they won't necessarily be released in a way where Egg Moves are possible. -- SuperNiceDog was not so nice to my bracket.Congrats to SuperNiceDog for winning the Rivalry Rumble Guru Contest! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 8:55:00 PM #44:	(in all seriousness is also has STAB Fire Blast too which is an amazing weapon to have) And I always thought Gengar and Chandelure played different roles anyway. Gengar is more sweepery, is he not? I always used Chandy as a revenge killer. -- http://www.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/4834/big-boss.jpg <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832832] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> (in all seriousness is also has STAB Fire Blast too which is an amazing weapon to have)And I always thought Gengar and Chandelure played different roles anyway. Gengar is more sweepery, is he not? I always used Chandy as a revenge killer. -- http://www.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/4834/big-boss.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 9:00:00 PM #45:	But then I used him as a revenge killer with ST which changes things -- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832833] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> But then I used him as a revenge killer with ST which changes things -- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mewtwo59 02/23/12 9:05:00 PM #46:	Yeah, enjoy getting KOed by Tyranitar when HP Fighting doesn't KO. And yeah, Chandelure's a better revenge killer. If you're running a SubSplit set, you're better off using Gengar. Both are Pursuit weak, so I guess it's a matter of whether you want to die to Tyranitar or Scizor. -- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 <cite>Mewtwo59 posted [p:832834] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, enjoy getting KOed by Tyranitar when HP Fighting doesn't KO. And yeah, Chandelure's a better revenge killer. If you're running a SubSplit set, you're better off using Gengar. Both are Pursuit weak, so I guess it's a matter of whether you want to die to Tyranitar or Scizor. -- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 02/23/12 9:11:00 PM #47:	Scrub Quotes @ScrubQuotes Yes, Smash really has an elite committee that decides what the rules of the game should be for everyone else. Pokemon as bad as Smash. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i52.tinypic.com/25p7p61.gif <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:832835] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Scrub Quotes @ScrubQuotesYes, Smash really has an elite committee that decides what the rules of the game should be for everyone else.Pokemon as bad as Smash. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Policehttp://i52.tinypic.com/25p7p61.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 9:26:00 PM #48:	Sadly true. Though at least Pokemon's developers develop with the metagame in mind >_> -- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832836] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> Sadly true.Though at least Pokemon's developers develop with the metagame in mind >_> -- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheNinJa7777 02/23/12 9:32:00 PM #49:	This is why PO's tiers are better -- http://img.imgcake.com/1284175205700jpghe.jpg <cite>TheNinJa7777 posted [p:832837] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> This is why PO's tiers are better -- http://img.imgcake.com/1284175205700jpghe.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 02/23/12 9:34:00 PM #50:	PO has different tiers? When I was playing there they just used Smogon's. -- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:832838] in So Excadri... [t:62048216]...</cite> <quote> PO has different tiers? When I was playing there they just used Smogon's. -- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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