Board 8 > League of Legends Topic 36 - "You are in the deep end now!"

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Achromatic
02/19/12 11:31:00 AM
#101:


Well you could just disable smart cast manually when you play certain champs you just can't set it to default is what I mean.

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WickIebee
02/19/12 11:32:00 AM
#102:


I'm at lv 29 now... before I can make it to ranked, can someone teach me when is a right time to gank from mid or from jungling if I ever jungle...

Only time I mid is when my team needs one as well.

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Peace___Frog
02/19/12 11:35:00 AM
#103:


Yeah, I don't enjoy going mid. I feel like it's probably the best place from which to pubstomp, though.

I think, if you can make your opponent go back (from bursting him from high) then quickly push your lane and run bottom or top (if one of them is pushed to your team's tower), it might be a good idea.

But take that with less than a grain of salt, because I tend to never play in a lane that leaves for ganks.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/19/12 12:16:00 PM
#104:


Magikarp is Awesome is participating in Go4LoL this week. Stream should be going up now:

http://www.twitch.tv/red13n



We're doing picks for our R1 match right now.

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OctilIery
02/19/12 12:29:00 PM
#105:


From: Achromatic | #092
Protip: If you suck a good way to get better is playing with people better than you so they can notice stuff you do wrong. I am one of the four best players on board 8 and red/fd still constantly are able to point out stuff I do wrong so I can improve myself, and I am grateful to have them around for it.


That's why I enjoyed playing with you guys, you especially since you're completely unflinching with criticism, and I don't get particularly mad or frustrated when you yell because I know you know better than I do :P

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Peace___Frog
02/19/12 1:18:00 PM
#106:


I dunno, chris yelling just irritates me. Though when he was yelling at ngirl I thought it was hilarious.


In other news, I think I really like jungle yi. If I want to start doing that often, what other junglers should I watch out for and why? As in, who should scare me? And since he has zero cc I know I should only use him when at least two of my lanes have some good cc. But he is very fun.

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Achromatic
02/19/12 1:20:00 PM
#107:


It's because you don't listen very well and so you don't hear the advice you just hear the yelling and you tune me out and when you tune me out you just, for sue, hear yelling instead of the sound advice I try to give you.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/19/12 1:22:00 PM
#108:


From: Forceful_Dragon | #104
Magikarp is Awesome is participating in Go4LoL this week. Stream should be going up now:

http://www.twitch.tv/red13n





Round 2 is starting now.

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Biolizard28
02/19/12 1:50:00 PM
#109:


I feel like every time I face something I don't understand, I feed or get carried.

I lost lane horribly to Urgot as Gangplank. I've never faced Urgot before and he just destroyed me without even trying. I only took solace in the fact that Urgot's late game is non-existent and dealt with it.

Then I faced an Orianna/Soraka bot lane and got zoned the hell out all game. Luckily, they were garbage and got devoured by our Mundo, but I felt like I couldn't do anything of consequence to them.

I'm too concerned with the way things should be that I can't deal with anything that doesn't fit.

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TheConductorSix
02/19/12 2:23:00 PM
#110:


That's the thing Sytha: I haven't had a DC in months. Until I play with you lol.

That first game with you as Malphite and me as Shen was great. Entire game turned around on that 2 vs. 3 in their jungle that I ult'd into to kill shaco while you kited Morgans Shen and Shaco. How we managed to 3 for 0 was hilarious.

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TheConductorSix
02/19/12 2:27:00 PM
#111:


Gwindor Spike and anyone else lOoking to play with Board 8ers:

I will be on around 430 today and my normal Eli is pretty bad from months of disconnects, troll builds, and general bad plays. Good news is matchmaking ranks me as the worst player in every game so we can play some team games and you won't feel too out of your league or anything.

BrandonFromLV. I already have Spike and Iaburis but everyone else feel free to send invites.

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Mega Mana
02/19/12 2:46:00 PM
#112:


I had a good day. Not sure about continuing until later though.

Today's Games

Win ~ Nunu - 2 / 3 / 14 (5.33)
- Forget who I was supporting. I think it was a Ziggs?

Win ~ Nunu - 1 / 2 / 9 (5.00)
- Trying Jungle Nunu again. Messed up my Blue, but did fairly well all over.

Win ~ Nunu - 2 / 7 / 19 (3.00)
- I think I was top lane? o_O. Managed to help with a few ganks, but I got blindsided a few times. Ask plum.

Win ~ Nunu - 6 / 3 / 23 (9.67)
- Jungle Nunu domination! Hell yeah, plum. My stats would be higher, but they surrendered before or around the first inhibitor went down.

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Mega Mana
02/19/12 2:49:00 PM
#113:


I also wish Match History had more info and it kept track of my W-L record with champions for normal games. *shrugs* Oh well, it's F2P and still awesome.

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SpikeDragon
02/19/12 3:12:00 PM
#114:


Awesome, Mana! I love having long win streaks. The longest winning streak I've ever had was 12. Before that streak, my win/loss spread was -11, so that streak single-handedly pushed my ratio into the positive range. And I agree with you, I'd like it if they implemented the individual character win/loss feature for normal games some time in the future.

Sounds good for me realo! I'm currently home for the weekend, though, and my laptop's been having problems connecting to our home's Wi-Fi, so I'll probably play with my desktop computer, and it doesn't have any microphones or anything, so I won't be able to talk on Ventrilo or Skype or anything.

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ZaziGuado
02/19/12 3:20:00 PM
#115:


Might start feeling the LoL bug again soon. Not sure if that's good or bad for the rest of the LoL universe.

Who am I kidding? Of course it's bad for them. Zazi is OP.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/19/12 3:36:00 PM
#116:


Yesss

Mega Mana is playing Nunu!

One of my earliest mains!

<3 Mana



From: Mega Mana | #113
I also wish Match History had more info and it kept track of my W-L record with champions for normal games. *shrugs* Oh well, it's F2P and still awesome.


Just hurry up and play ranked =P


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TheConductorSix
02/19/12 3:50:00 PM
#117:


I haven't checked ranked stats in forever but they problem look something like:

Mundo: never lose
Irelia: never lose
Everyone else: lame.

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SpikeDragon
02/19/12 4:01:00 PM
#118:


Until I figure out why my laptop is not connecting to our house's Wi-Fi, I'm never playing at home again. This desktop is so old and so dumb, it was telling me my firewall was keeping me from connecting to the servers or some **** like that. I'm sorry about that guys. When I go back to college, I'll be sure to have a decent game with you.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/19/12 5:11:00 PM
#119:


So red was having broken internet. Ended up playing 3 duoQ games with Chris:

Win ~ Fiddlesticks ~ 4-3-16 (6.67) [+21] 1404 [24] {Ashe 8-3-13} LoL Trist.

Win ~ Nunu ~ 8-4-17 (6.25) [+22] 1426 [45] {Corkie 9-5-9} My fully charged ult deals 3k damage.

Win ~ Nunu ~ 5-5-15 (4.00) [+25] 1451 [45] {Sona 1-3-14} Chris laned with horrible ashe, but Yorick helped us carry her.

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TheConductorSix
02/19/12 6:52:00 PM
#120:


Progress So Far:

Chaotic=Ziggs
Boko=Shen
Mana=Nunu
Realo=Mundo

Mana ran support Nunu with Cait and pretty much dominated bottom. Shen had to 2 vs 1 against Irelia/Twitch but LOL ITS SHEN so he never died and I just camped top early. Ziggs lost to Irelia(shocker) but she kept focusing me in Team Fights so we won in a landslide.

So Far Tonight: 1-0

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Peace___Frog
02/19/12 6:55:00 PM
#121:


mundo too stronk

I think I should try him solo top more. i know someone here told me it sucks, but that doesn't want me to stop trying to make it work at my elo!

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Chaotic Mind
02/19/12 6:57:00 PM
#122:


Anyone got any tips for playing against LeBlanc mid?

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Mega Mana
02/19/12 6:59:00 PM
#123:


7-0 Nunu today so far.

Win #5 - 2 / 7 / 27 (4.14)
- Went Banshee's, Shurelya, then Frost Shield.

Win #6 - 1 / 4 / 13 (3.50)
- Went Banshee's then pushed towards Frost Shield. Sytha asked why BV and I told him about Snowstorm shielding. We then had a nice twenty minute conversation about champions, Nunu items, Galio, and asking FD about Nunu.

Hey, FD! Gots any Nunu tips? =D (I'dve asked in chat you've been gone for two hours =P)

Win #7 - 1 / 1 / 5 (6.00)
- As Conductor said, ran support Nunu with Cait and pretty much controlled bottom against a Yi and Caitlyn. I'm surprised I only had one death, but I guess I'm remembering the other few games where I made a stupid misclick into their forces. Also, it's not batteries, it's lag or something. They controleld Jungle early on with aggressive Caitlyn play, but some good wards and an excellent Caitlyn teammate... we did well. Yay surrender!

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Forceful_Dragon
02/19/12 7:19:00 PM
#124:


For support nunu I would suggest doing the normal support thing. Start faerie charm + wards + potions. Get your Philo stone, heart of gold and boots up. Then work on semi-tanky and support items.

Your entire purpose is to blood boil the right people, slow the right targets and, occasionally, get off an ult in the right spot.



Earlier today I was playing jungle nunu and building very heavily AP. It was 1400~ ELO games though and so I figured I could get away with it. It isn't the sort of build I would play in a higher level game.


Imo great items for a supportish nunu are things like Shurelya's and Zeke's Herald.

You're already giving your AD carry a crapload of move and attack speed, and so with Zeke's you give them more attack speed and also extra lifesteal making them even more absurd.

As support nunu in lane you should be maxing blood boil. And I would only get 1 level of consume early if you need it. The sustain is nice, but you don't want to take CS from your AD lane mate. But with only 1 level you can consume full HP melee minions or cannon minions without killing them so you get the sustain without taking the kill.




Edit:

It should also be mentioned I guess that a lot of my early early nunu playing was back when red, shoe and I were tearing it up on Twisted Treeline. But I typically built him similar to how support nunu is being built now. The emphasis on doing whatever it took to make my AD unkillable.


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TheConductorSix
02/19/12 7:37:00 PM
#125:


Fighting Leblanc Mid is all about pushing her lane, making her lose CS, and preventing her from roam ganking lanes.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/19/12 7:46:00 PM
#126:


pssh.

Fighting leblanc mid is all about AP Nasus. 100% effective every time I've tried it as a LB counter.

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Chaotic Mind
02/19/12 8:19:00 PM
#127:


every time i would get in range of her minions tho she would teleport in and burst like 1/2 my life away. at like lvl 3.

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Chaotic Mind
02/19/12 8:20:00 PM
#128:


And by teleport i mean her blink, not the summoner.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/19/12 8:24:00 PM
#129:


You need a champion who can either shrug off her burst or who can exchange damage comparably.

Sion might be a good choice. As long as you are maxing shield and have enough mana regen to support it (start boots and 3 dorans rings?) you should be able to survive well enough in lane. But if you use all your shields to block damage you might have a difficult time farming, so there's that too.

Ideally you want to stop her from establishing an HP foothold and still have some mana leftover.

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SpeedYoshi
02/19/12 8:45:00 PM
#130:


my anivia did mediocre vs the leblancs I've played

although I'm bad and so were they so...

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Forceful_Dragon
02/19/12 9:12:00 PM
#131:


Red+FD DuoQ adventures are beginning:

http://www.twitch.tv/red13n

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KommunistKoala
02/19/12 9:17:00 PM
#132:


From: Peace___Frog | #601
i know someone here told me it sucks


they were wrong

Mundo is such a hard snowball. If you get one kill top before they do you've already won your lane.

Atmogs + PD + tank items if you want or not it doesnt really matter what you build at that point = gg

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Forceful_Dragon
02/19/12 9:20:00 PM
#133:


red anivia + fd kayle

game loading

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Peace___Frog
02/19/12 9:30:00 PM
#134:


He is a hard snowball, but he gets dominated by a lot of champs up top. I tried it once and lost hard to a gp because screw his q and his w, but come teamfights I was able to do more than him which helped us win the game. Mundo has some intense pre-6 and pre-SV issues.

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TheConductorSix
02/19/12 10:00:00 PM
#135:


Cloth Armor 5 Pots.

Flash Exhaust


Max out E and Q and never touch W.

The second you go into lane pop a potion and press E and attack.

Are they fighting you? They're losing because your Attack Damage is stupid.

By the time E is up again and you'll be low health so E will make your damage go to 100+.

Press exhaust. First Blood.

You've now won your lane.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/19/12 10:16:00 PM
#136:


Red dominated with Anivia
FD saved things with kayle (despite their best efforts to not be saved)

Game 2 DuoQ is beginning:
http://www.twitch.tv/red13n


(Also we are on Marn's team this game, for you fighting game fans)

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Peace___Frog
02/19/12 10:22:00 PM
#137:


I just hate being risky like that, realo. :/

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Peace___Frog
02/19/12 10:23:00 PM
#138:


and yeah, that lee was an interesting one

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TheConductorSix
02/19/12 11:11:00 PM
#139:


Mundo is an all or nothing champion if you're going top lane.

He needs ONE major item to be ridiculously good and your job is to get to it as soon as possible.

You can't trade with Mundo. You just can't. His Q does percentage health and his E is the best attack steroid in the game. To top it off he can out sustain anyone this side of Irelia.

You turn your disadvantage(early game) into an advantage by being aggressive.

Once mundo gets Warmogs+Force of Nature+QSS you just can't stop him. The amount of effort and ultimates that go into killing him buries your team.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/19/12 11:27:00 PM
#140:


Red/FD DuoQ is 2-1 so far tonight:

Win ~ Kayle ~ 2-1-15 (17.00) [+13] 1747 [45]

Loss ~ Udyr ~ 0-3-0 (0.00) [-14] 1733 [45]
Do not ban shen, do not pick shen: lose to shen.

Win ~ Amumu ~ 0-1-6 (6.00) [+13] 1746 [45]



Gonna Q up again in a second:
http://www.twitch.tv/red13n

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KanzarisKelshen
02/19/12 11:31:00 PM
#141:


From: Forceful_Dragon | #140
Loss ~ Udyr ~ 0-3-0 (0.00) [-14] 1733 [45]
Do not ban shen, do not pick shen: lose to shen.


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Mega Mana
02/19/12 11:50:00 PM
#142:


Heimerdinger is still fun. Yay!

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SythaWarrior
02/20/12 12:52:00 AM
#143:


Lol....

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TheConductorSix
02/20/12 1:04:00 AM
#144:


25:00 in.

I look up and see that Kog Maw has 15 kills. AD Kog Maw.

Never have I been happier to be Nasus.

250 CS later and I beat a Kog Maw with 22 kills.

It felt good.

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TheConductorSix
02/20/12 1:08:00 AM
#145:


See Sytha I prefer your Yorick build. That's how I build him.

I've always thought Goddess Tear was a stupid item. The only time Manamune should ever be used is on Ult spamming Kog' Maw and Urgot. That's it.

Chalice+Visage lets me massacre top lane Kennens/Vlads or just go mid if the enemy has Kassadin or Ahri or Leblanc.

The sheer amount of damage that Yorick can do with tank items is absurd.

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SythaWarrior
02/20/12 1:42:00 AM
#146:


I build based on match up really. But Chalice is pretty nice. I really like it.

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Peace___Frog
02/20/12 8:45:00 AM
#147:


4 smites on one team, huh?

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Biolizard28
02/20/12 10:30:00 AM
#148:


New rotation is up early

Kassadin
Master Yi
Rammus
Singed
Taric
Malzahar
Miss Fortune
Caitlin
Talon
Fizz

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Aecioo
02/20/12 10:42:00 AM
#149:


Yay Malz, the like, one AP I don't own!

Kassadin

>_<

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Silver_Ermine
02/20/12 11:17:00 AM
#150:


1890! Literally one game away from Platinum D: D:

Man, I just found out how hard Fizz vs Morgana is against a good Morg. Literally have to stay on my toes to dodge EVERY binding or I'm dead. Get snared once = dead.

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