Board 8 > League of Legends Topic 36 - "You are in the deep end now!"

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TheConductorSix
03/01/12 4:31:00 PM
#451:


Fiora dominates lanes and skirmishes.

Period.

You can not, I repeat, you can not one on one her. The stacking health regen is just too much. Dodging your best attack is too much. The attack speed is too much. The attack speed combined with the passive combined with Lifesteal is WAY too much.

That being said she's not very good in team fights unless fed. She's Master Yi but a much better laner and duelist.

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TheConductorSix
03/01/12 4:36:00 PM
#452:


If you've got a tanky jungler and someone like Alistar/Leona bottom lane, then build Riven straight Carry status.

Otherwise it's best to build her slightly tanky.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/01/12 4:49:00 PM
#453:


1-0, about to start next game.

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mcflubbin
03/01/12 5:17:00 PM
#454:


Okay guys, thanks for the Riven tips. :)

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AfroSquirrel
03/01/12 5:26:00 PM
#455:


Alright, getting better. Just had a game that was 17/4/11 as Fiona until we just started screwing around and trying to get pentakills before the other team surrendered. Still, it was worth it for pulling off a Blade Waltz on the enemy fountain.

Phage has been dropped. Different boot setups are being experimented with. IE and Youmu's are great, even better when I remember to turn on Youmu's.

Current plan is Wriggles -> CDR boots (never stop skillcombo) -> Youmu's -> IE -> Trinity Force, Wit's End, Tiamats, or whatever thing has fun on-hits.

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Biolizard28
03/01/12 5:28:00 PM
#456:


CDR boots seem low priority on Fiora. I know she appreciates some CDR, but from the boots? Don't seem right.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/12 5:29:00 PM
#457:


From: AfroSquirrel | #455
or whatever thing has fun on-hits.


Cleaver?

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Biolizard28
03/01/12 5:31:00 PM
#458:


Cleaver seems like a pretty good item for her, actually. Attack speed, on hit, shreds armor. If you do opt for YGB, it makes up for the less than stellar Ar pen.

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AfroSquirrel
03/01/12 5:33:00 PM
#459:


From: Biolizard28 | #456
CDR boots seem low priority on Fiora. I know she appreciates some CDR, but from the boots? Don't seem right.


Move 5 boots are another choice, but I always pick Teleport. AS shoes are also good. I just want to see how CDR shoes work, though.

From: Forceful_Dragon | #457
Cleaver?


That too. Where I am, though, there's usually only one person who builds armor until lategame.

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KamikazePotato
03/01/12 5:34:00 PM
#460:


Just had a match with a Jarvan and Fiora on my team. The Fiora stacked Tiamats. They ulted at the same time and everything would die.

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Justin_Crossing
03/01/12 5:35:00 PM
#461:


tiamat fiora is so nuts

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HanOfTheNekos
03/01/12 5:40:00 PM
#462:


1-1

Lost our lane hard, then rest of team snowballed under pressure.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/12 5:41:00 PM
#463:


From: AfroSquirrel | #459
That too. Where I am, though, there's usually only one person who builds armor until lategame.


Good?

Cleaver is better against less armor. Sets you up with true damage or even amp damage if their armor is low enough.

Cleaver against mid to low armor. Last Whisper is what you get against masses of armor.

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AfroSquirrel
03/01/12 5:48:00 PM
#464:


Oh. Well, I know that for next game now.

And custom recommended items is amazing~

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OctilIery
03/01/12 6:32:00 PM
#465:


From: TheConductorSix | #451
Fiora dominates lanes and skirmishes.

Period.

You can not, I repeat, you can not one on one her. The stacking health regen is just too much. Dodging your best attack is too much. The attack speed is too much. The attack speed combined with the passive combined with Lifesteal is WAY too much.

That being said she's not very good in team fights unless fed. She's Master Yi but a much better laner and duelist.


Which begs the question, why the hell did Riot not make a new champ and just update Yi, who sorely needs it.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/01/12 6:48:00 PM
#466:


Positive gain in ELO tonight!

Win ~ Xerath ~ 7-2-22 (14.50) [+xx] [45]
Loss ~ Ashe ~ 6-4-3 (2.25) [-21] 1218 [35]
Win ~ Ashe ~ 6-0-8 (infinite) [+23] 1241 [25]

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AfroSquirrel
03/01/12 6:55:00 PM
#467:


I just saw Ahri's dance for the first time. Is it just me, or is that 'Run Devil Run' from Girls' Generation?

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Justin_Crossing
03/01/12 6:55:00 PM
#468:


yes

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/12 7:53:00 PM
#469:


AD Veigar just destroyed early game. ^_^ Realo/Sytha/Peaf can confirm, lol.

Too bad we threw the game away as soon as mid game hit, but those are the breaks.

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KamikazePotato
03/01/12 7:57:00 PM
#470:


We didn't throw away any part of that game specifically. That's just what's going to happen in lategame when only 2 people on your team can deal any real damage and they aren't very fed (AD Veigar is going to be terrible late game no matter what you do). Malphite top was also not the best choice - realo didn't misplay him or anything, he just can't keep Riven from farming.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/12 8:33:00 PM
#471:


Red/FD DuoQ Time:
http://www.twitch.tv/red13n

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AfroSquirrel
03/01/12 8:38:00 PM
#472:


Updated my thing on the Wiki for when I buy Leona (and her Valkyrie skin so I can spam NIBELUNG VALESTI whenever I ult)

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/12 8:38:00 PM
#473:


Red on Anivia
FD on Mummy

game starting gogo

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Peace___Frog
03/01/12 9:07:00 PM
#474:


From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 3/1/2012 10:57:49 PM | #470
We didn't throw away any part of that game specifically. That's just what's going to happen in lategame when only 2 people on your team can deal any real damage and they aren't very fed (AD Veigar is going to be terrible late game no matter what you do). Malphite top was also not the best choice - realo didn't misplay him or anything, he just can't keep Riven from farming.


No, the first dragon fight we didn't do anything right except sytha smited at the right time. And we weren't able to regain the momentum after that. It was the critical point in the game, I think.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/12 9:10:00 PM
#475:


From: Peace___Frog | #474
No, the first dragon fight we didn't do anything right except sytha smited at the right time. And we weren't able to regain the momentum after that. It was the critical point in the game, I think.


This.


We were SO far ahead that even with a "sub optimal" AD carry we had no reason to let the game slip away. The momentum shift began at that dragon.

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Justin_Crossing
03/01/12 9:10:00 PM
#476:


Hey FD if you like trolling with AD casters you should do AD Janna.

So good.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/12 9:13:00 PM
#477:


I started 4-0-3

It wasn't troll, it was "lol i have an AoE stun and look at me I have a 6 minute BF sword now because you are all dead"


ANyways red/FD duoQ game 2 starting ^_^

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Justin_Crossing
03/01/12 9:15:00 PM
#478:


I have a looser definition of Troll.

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Mega Mana
03/01/12 9:43:00 PM
#479:


Dat Fiora is a real class act

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/12 9:46:00 PM
#480:


From: Mega Mana | #479
Dat Fiora is a real class act




Yup -_-

Just frustrating that none of my ganks could work out because of communication.

Tried pinging people in and whatnot, but they were situations where if I could just verbally say "go now" and if they would be willing to listen they would work. Instead they did not and ganks backfired. Annoying -_-

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Mega Mana
03/01/12 9:49:00 PM
#481:


It's all because you fed those two times and gave up your red!

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TheConductorSix
03/01/12 9:59:00 PM
#482:


no need for cleaver when last whisper exists.

she has enough attack speed already.

Cooldown items seem like a must though. Brutalizer at least.

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KommunistKoala
03/01/12 10:01:00 PM
#483:


Yeah I think Brutalizer is necessary, unless you're getting cdr from something else...for some reason.

Life steal is the big thing really. That ult, man. that. ult.

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/12 10:25:00 PM
#484:


2-1 now in ranked, Q'd up for #4

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AfroSquirrel
03/01/12 10:45:00 PM
#485:


Tested a game with CDR boots + Youmu's, and it's wonderful. QQWE loops endlessly with no break, and you can get more ults off per battle.

My only problem now is the game pre-Wriggles. I keep getting too greedy and dieing 2-3 times before things turn around (unless I have a good support, then it's all happy~)

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Forceful_Dragon
03/01/12 11:16:00 PM
#486:


Win ~ Amumu ~ 1-1-14 (15.00) [+13] 1695 [45]
Loss ~ Lee Sin ~ 1-5-1 (0.40) [-12] 1683 [45]
Win ~ Skarner ~ 6-4-12 (4.50) [+13] 1696 [35]
Win ~ Maokai ~ 11-1-24 (35.00) [+13] 1709 [45]

3-1 so far tonight. That last win felt good.

red/FD duoQ continues:
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Peace___Frog
03/02/12 1:00:00 AM
#487:


11-1-24 had better feel good, damn

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Forceful_Dragon
03/02/12 1:03:00 AM
#488:


Played 2 more, finished 4-2 on the night, up 28 ELO:

Win ~ Malphite ~ 3-3-16 (6.33) [+14] 1723 [45]
Loss ~ Maokai ~ 2-2-3 (2.50) [-13] 1710 [34]

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HanOfTheNekos
03/02/12 8:13:00 AM
#489:


twitch.tv/xinfis

streaming some duo queue

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Peace___Frog
03/02/12 10:36:00 AM
#490:


waiting on new topic

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Biolizard28
03/02/12 10:44:00 AM
#491:


Make it yourself.

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Silver_Ermine
03/02/12 10:48:00 AM
#492:


*Want Fizz Quote*

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HanOfTheNekos
03/02/12 11:36:00 AM
#493:


Swimmingly!

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Peace___Frog
03/02/12 11:37:00 AM
#494:


I'm not good enough to make a new topic!

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Biolizard28
03/02/12 11:41:00 AM
#495:


Fine, pansy, I'll do it.

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X_Dante_X
03/02/12 11:43:00 AM
#496:


and Dante shows up minutes late, like usual

"Want to win? Pick Anivia" will have to wait for a new day

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Articuno2001
03/02/12 11:48:00 AM
#497:


No wiki updates except on the first page, apparently.

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Biolizard28
03/02/12 11:49:00 AM
#498:


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62120085

Go for broke.

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