Board 8 > Touhou Mafia - Topic 2: Blue Oni, Red Oni

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Luis_Sera89
02/07/12 8:11:00 PM
#451:


You'll never see a pure plurality lynch on day 1.

Pretty sure PW mafia reached plurality on D1. And that was a 25-player game too!

Also why are XIII and Spiral still arguing? It's was vaguely amusing at first, but now it's just getting distracting. Do either of you think the other is scum? Or are you just going to continue to troll each other?

How's deadline going to work tomorrow, by the way? Are the majority of people even going to be around then? I mean, it's fine for me, but it's lunchtime in the US. Might need to forgo the classix and come to a conclusion sooner.

Oh, OIO, anything to add that doesn't concern lynch leaders or new players by the way? I feel like the focus of your posts have centered around them, and it's not really bringing anything to the table.

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Raka_Putra
02/07/12 8:12:00 PM
#452:


...Walrus is just going to ignore my post? >_>
And I'm not the only one with less than stellar argument either, although I'm the only one who admits it. Care to explain why it's gotta be me?

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X_Dante_X
02/07/12 8:12:00 PM
#453:


You know who else I forgot was playing? Sceptile

From: Sceptilesolarbeam | #021
Apologies for yesterday.

Anyway. The Arti train is hella bad; I appreciate the value in voting people to make them post more, but the train that has developed lacks basis. I find Walrus's vote particularly bad and quite likely a bandwagon; it doesn't add anything to the discussion and doesn't have much weight behind it.

Flavor discussion is dumb; as for the miller thing, I don't draw any conclusions about it one way or another. Really kind of pointless.

Speaking of shados, didn't he say a while ago that he wasn't going to be as active this game as he was in Chaos Mafia?

I won't be as active in this game as I was in CM2, due to being in other games and crunch time at work.

Yeah. That seems a bit suspicious.

I'll have to read the topic again after class, but yeah.


This is the only post of note I've been able to find of the guy. Since it doesn't appear obvious in the quote of a quote, the busy part is him quoting Shados, not him being busy. Anyway, this kind of hits some sirens in my head - dude is completely invisible, and this post really doesn't do much for me. I want to get some more out of him!

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Dark_Spiral
02/07/12 8:12:00 PM
#454:


I've since pulled off of XIII. Done, over, fin.
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WalrusJump
02/07/12 8:14:00 PM
#455:


XIII I'm neutral on Spiral. You're reading far too much into every little thing he's done. I feel like your vote would be on Spiral even if he was the dayvig who shot plum.

Leaning town on you, but your tunneling is anti-town. You can make pretty much anyone look scummy in your mind through selective overanalysis.

His sudden unvote of you was the only thing that gave me a little bit of pause - if you look like his town play (which you do) then what is he? But I haven't played with Spiral in a long time - I seem to remember him being more sedate nowadays as either alignment than early spiral.

out of curiosity, Spiral - have you turned 30 yet? I remember being surprised when I heard you were 28 a year or two ago. Then again I never see you outside of mafia/Jets topics.

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SBell0105
02/07/12 8:14:00 PM
#456:


From: Luis_Sera89 | #451
How's deadline going to work tomorrow, by the way? Are the majority of people even going to be around then? I mean, it's fine for me, but it's lunchtime in the US. Might need to forgo the classix and come to a conclusion sooner.


i'll be barely around, i have a busy day at the office and am leaving early so i can't be on my phone all morning again

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Dark_Spiral
02/07/12 8:15:00 PM
#457:


Thirty-one actually. Time just flies, but then being sick will do that to you, heh. It's just surreal I can look back on games that happened years ago.
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Achromatic
02/07/12 8:18:00 PM
#458:


Sbell you should claim now.

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Achromatic
02/07/12 8:18:00 PM
#459:


As should Kracko so Ulti will shut up.

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Dark_Spiral
02/07/12 8:18:00 PM
#460:


Sbell you should claim now.

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Luis_Sera89
02/07/12 8:18:00 PM
#461:


X_Dante_X posted...
You know who else I forgot was playing? Sceptile

From: Sceptilesolarbeam | #021
Apologies for yesterday.

Anyway. The Arti train is hella bad; I appreciate the value in voting people to make them post more, but the train that has developed lacks basis. I find Walrus's vote particularly bad and quite likely a bandwagon; it doesn't add anything to the discussion and doesn't have much weight behind it.

Flavor discussion is dumb; as for the miller thing, I don't draw any conclusions about it one way or another. Really kind of pointless.

Speaking of shados, didn't he say a while ago that he wasn't going to be as active this game as he was in Chaos Mafia?

I won't be as active in this game as I was in CM2, due to being in other games and crunch time at work.

Yeah. That seems a bit suspicious.

I'll have to read the topic again after class, but yeah.

This is the only post of note I've been able to find of the guy. Since it doesn't appear obvious in the quote of a quote, the busy part is him quoting Shados, not him being busy. Anyway, this kind of hits some sirens in my head - dude is completely invisible, and this post really doesn't do much for me. I want to get some more out of him!


Huh. You know actually, that's an incredibly scummy post. Criticise lynch on vote leader? Check. Broad "meta is dumb" statement? Check. Calling someone out for inactivity? Check. "Oh by the way, I won't be too active this game"? Check. "BRB"? Check.

Man, this is a treasure trove of cliched, non-committal scum soundbites.

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XIII_rocks
02/07/12 8:19:00 PM
#462:


You were the one who brought them up. You used them in your argument, if anything you used them to try to validate yourself, not vice versa.

I brought them up because I was compelled to look at how you had actually tried to get me lynched today, rather than laying a lazy vote down and doing nothing, you idiotic pseudo-shm.

Yet you brought up reacting anyways and tried to use it. You're flailing pretty badly here. I think you need to take a deep breath and hit a punching bag or something.

What a meaningless, scummy response. You knowingly miss my point just to accuse me of flailing...I just...what. Guys. Seriously. Lynch this arsewipe for the love of all that is good and holy in the world.

I do not care about how I look or how you approve or disapprove of my scumhunting. I don't know how many times I have to say this.

It justifies my vote on you. It furthers my point that you look scummy. It makes you look more hypocritical. Please stop completely misunderstanding and misinterpreting my points. In any case, this and the last were meant to be taken as one point. Chopping it in two was dumb and unnecessary.

You're ignoring your own words that you'd offer more content later. I'm pretty sure that slipped your mind though. Oh wait, that pretty much destroys your argument here before it even gets started. Also, I did discuss you. Hey, let's look below, I might be wrong!

Whether I provide more content later is irrelevant and a desperate attempt to find something new and exciting to hit me with when it's just as illogical and pathetic as the rest of your tripe. I have already shown you one very obvious way for you to MAKE me relevant. I gave you plenty of posts to work from and there were plenty of active players for you to discuss my play with. So what do you do? Say nothing about it for hours and hours until InsaneOne mentions it, discuss it BRIEFLY, then say nothing about it for hours and hours until I show up.

Exactly what I said above, "No no no no." When it ceases to be a discussion, there isn't a point of going any further. So we're done like I said prior. I tried here to give you leeway to actually talk but this isn't a talk, this is you just refusing continually in one big wall of nothing.

This is a discussion because you look worse every time you expose your own shocking hypocrisy even more. Literally ashamed to be sharing this game with you at this point.

Again, I discussed you plenty. You don't seem to be getting it, you're just go,"No no no, wrong!" Over and over. I'm sorry, that's how it is.

Before I arrived today, when you HAVE been online, what have you done to discuss me and try and get me lynched (by "today" I mean IRL today, because I read all of yesterday's posts)>

A lot of people say that, mong.

The problem with your theory is that there's a lot of people who have played with me before here who know this, and several games archived who can back me up. Unless you think they're all lying too. Thanks.

...what? I meant "a lot of people say 'I will not be lynched'", or something to that effect. Trying to get under my skin by making me out to be just like you won't work because you're, well, you

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_Regaro_
02/07/12 8:19:00 PM
#463:


wait wait wait wait wait hold the phone

HOLD THE MOTHER****ING PHONE

Sceptilesolarbeam is playing?

what
the
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This takes North Pole Sceptile and makes him look like Sir Chris

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X_Dante_X
02/07/12 8:19:00 PM
#464:


Yeah, thats literally -all- I could find on the guy, besides a couple unmemorable one liner posts. You know who I'll be looking at more closer!

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WalrusJump
02/07/12 8:19:00 PM
#465:


From: WalrusJump | #434
Using the whole "SBell was defending Silver" argument against him is a load of crap. I don't like Eagles for it and I don't like Raka for it. It's a huge reach, to say the least.

Besides, Raka has played before, at least enough to try to craft his own suspicions.


I should have said "at the outset" there.

Raka - I noticed your post afterward. It's still bad logic. And saying "I'm not the only one playing poorly" sounds like you're aiming primarily to not get lynched.

Yes, Eagles/Articuno/Kracko look bad too.

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XIII_rocks
02/07/12 8:20:00 PM
#466:


Basically, when you bring up something to use in an argument and when it's addressed, to accuse someone of using it when you were the one who brought it into the equation to begin with pretty much means you've ended up like the guy in front of the casino in Leisure Suit Larry one. Naked wearing only a barrel and trying to sell apples to make ends meet.

Total BS and an almost stunning misrepresentation of this argument.

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Dark_Spiral
02/07/12 8:20:00 PM
#467:


Scept is in fact playing, yeah. I think he made some sort of brief apology for him not having been here and a few other posts. That was it.
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X_Dante_X
02/07/12 8:20:00 PM
#468:


I sure hope his class lets out soon

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SBell0105
02/07/12 8:22:00 PM
#469:


Unofficial Votals, I was getting tired of waiting.

[4] SBell: Chris, Raka, Dante, Eagles
[2] Articuno: Boko, Silver, (Regaro), (SBell), (Walrus)
[2] Kracko: Owl, (Walrus), Regaro
[2] Walrus: (Boko), jdizzy, Articuno
[1] Eaedwards: Spiral
[1] Regaro: Kracko,
[1] Raka: Walrus
[1] Drak: Ulti
[1] Eagles: (Walrus), Gravy, (Silver)
[1] Spiral: (XIII), (Ulti), (catastrophy), (Eagles), XIII
[1] Ulti: (Owl), Tom
[0] XIII: (shadosneko), (Ulti), (Spiral), (Eagles), (Drak)
[0] Boko: (Chris)
[0] jdizzy: (Walrus), (shadosneko)
[0] catastrophy: (Ulti), (Dante)
[0] Dante: (jdizzy)
[0] htaeD: (Chris)
[0] Luis: (Kracko)
[0] No Lynch: Articuno, (Eagles), (Ulti), (catastrophy), (Tom)

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Dark_Spiral
02/07/12 8:26:00 PM
#470:


You should just claim at this point if you're not going to be around.
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SBell0105
02/07/12 8:26:00 PM
#471:


From: Achromatic | #458
Sbell you should claim now.




thought I made it pretty damn clear that I was Town Power but you are too blind to read between the lines.

You want a full claim and you are probably kissing any Doc Save you thought you might get as a used up dayvig goodbye. Actually, you've probably kissed that goodbye anyway. But i really don't think i should have to go any further than that.

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XIII_rocks
02/07/12 8:26:00 PM
#472:


Also why are XIII and Spiral still arguing? It's was vaguely amusing at first, but now it's just getting distracting. Do either of you think the other is scum? Or are you just going to continue to troll each other?

I am convinced almost beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is scum.

XIII I'm neutral on Spiral. You're reading far too much into every little thing he's done. I feel like your vote would be on Spiral even if he was the dayvig who shot plum. Leaning town on you, but your tunneling is anti-town. You can make pretty much anyone look scummy in your mind through selective overanalysis.

Look at my first post in this topic. I actually unvoted Spiral, then read back through and he just looked worse and worse. Doing nothing to scumhunt the guy his vote is on, and then posting a couple of token responses when he gets brought up, then posting some irrelevant, pedantic crap about the nature of Ulti's vanilla claim is bad. bad bad bad bad bad. So is his countervote, too.

Like I said, its posts like this I feared when I got back on him. Admitting my FIRST vote was a personal vendetta means people are less inclined to go with me on this, I guess. The second vote is motivated purely by my absolute conviction.

His sudden unvote of you was the only thing that gave me a little bit of pause - if you look like his town play (which you do) then what is he? But I haven't played with Spiral in a long time - I seem to remember him being more sedate nowadays as either alignment than early spiral.

In the last game he played he told me you are not allowed a sliding scale of scumminess. You have to absolutely think somebody is scum and then completely destroy them or you might as well stop playing. Funny how he didn't do that for hours and hours today. That doesn't come off as "sedate" to me.

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Dark_Spiral
02/07/12 8:36:00 PM
#473:


thought I made it pretty damn clear that I was Town Power but you are too blind to read between the lines.

You want a full claim and you are probably kissing any Doc Save you thought you might get as a used up dayvig goodbye. Actually, you've probably kissed that goodbye anyway. But i really don't think i should have to go any further than that.


If you are telling the truth, there are so many ways you could have handled that better. Not thrilled about the claim.
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Raka_Putra
02/07/12 8:37:00 PM
#474:


From: WalrusJump | #465
Raka - I noticed your post afterward. It's still bad logic. And saying "I'm not the only one playing poorly" sounds like you're aiming primarily to not get lynched.


It's merely a fact. And please answer my question if you don't find it too hard to answer.

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SBell0105
02/07/12 8:38:00 PM
#475:


From: Dark_Spiral | #473
If you are telling the truth, there are so many ways you could have handled that better. Not thrilled about the claim.


Well Spiral I am more than welcome to your educating me in the better ways of handling these things after the game, its pretty clear from previous games that I don't do well when I'm town and i am getting piled on by idiots and by idiots I mean Chris in this situation cause he knows damn well that I am not scum this game.

and is someone going to make a Topic 3 cause HGR is NOT around and we have less than 12 hours left in the day and this crap shant be stalled.

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Articuno2001
02/07/12 8:39:00 PM
#476:


new topic? (HGR is unfortunately not online)
I don't know anything about touhou so I think someone else should make it.

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Achromatic
02/07/12 8:46:00 PM
#477:


Sbell doesn't react this way to chris pressure as town. Kill him.

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Sceptilesolarbeam
02/07/12 8:47:00 PM
#478:


I am plagued with this horrible headache and can't spend much time out of bed without pain, so I apologize for not actually getting around to the joining the game proper thing. Why are we lynching SBell again? The most recent post I see seems townish.

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Articuno2001
02/07/12 8:47:00 PM
#479:


From: Achromatic | #477
Sbell doesn't react this way to chris pressure as town. Kill him.


Not doing this without a counter claim from someone.

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Drakeryn
02/07/12 8:48:00 PM
#480:


Top suspicions at the moment are Spiral and Reg.

The way Spiral got off XIII was abrupt and felt somewhat artificial. It reminds me of his scum play in FFX, where he was dead set on hounding me to the ends of the earth, and then everyone else got off me, and then Spiral suddenly decided to buy my claim and do an about-face. That kind of rapid turnaround doesn't sit well with me when XIII was his top suspicion all day.

Reg for reasons already stated -- don't like how he hopped off the Articuno lynch and onto the convenient Kracko lynch as soon as the people on the Articuno lynch were starting to garner suspicion.

Wary about the SBell lynch, since two of the people on there are Raka and Eagles. I'm leaning town on both but I don't trust their judgment at all.

#465 | WalrusJump | Posted 2/7/2012 10:19:57 PM | message detail | quote
Yes, Eagles/Articuno/Kracko look bad too.


Remind me of your case on those three?


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SBell0105
02/07/12 8:48:00 PM
#481:


From: Achromatic | #477
Sbell doesn't react this way to chris pressure as town. Kill him.


Town Chris doens't act this stupid after confirming himself unless you feel like you've got nothing to lose anymore since you've already "pleased yourself" this game.

Seriously, some one make a ****ing topic 3

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Drakeryn
02/07/12 8:48:00 PM
#482:


#479 | Articuno2001 | Posted 2/7/2012 10:47:50 PM | message detail | quote
Not doing this without a counter claim from someone.


Fishing for claims, are we?


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Sceptilesolarbeam
02/07/12 8:49:00 PM
#483:


Sbell claimed something? Sorry, totally lost now.

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SBell0105
02/07/12 8:50:00 PM
#484:


From: Articuno2001 | #479
Not doing this without a counter claim from someone.


Yeah, someone else claim Town Power >_>

wtf Arti, what are you expecting as a counter.

Oh no, SBEll can't possibly be Power because IM POWER!

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Articuno2001
02/07/12 8:50:00 PM
#485:


From: Drakeryn | #482
#479 | Articuno2001 | Posted 2/7/2012 10:47:50 PM | message detail | quote
Not doing this without a counter claim from someone.


Fishing for claims, are we?


you want to lynch town power because Chris is being stupid

no?

then be quiet, thanks.

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Sceptilesolarbeam
02/07/12 8:50:00 PM
#486:


oh

Halfassed claim is halfassed.

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Raka_Putra
02/07/12 8:52:00 PM
#487:


I hope this is okay
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/61888203

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SBell0105
02/07/12 8:52:00 PM
#488:


From: Sceptilesolarbeam | #486
oh

Halfassed claim is halfassed.


Doing my best to protect the interests of town while appeasing stupidity.

So yes, a halfassed claim because Chris thinks he's a living legend since he got lucky with his shot.

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Drakeryn
02/07/12 8:54:00 PM
#489:


oh whoops Raka already made one

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/61888222


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catastrophy15
02/08/12 3:40:00 AM
#490:


Back at school now. Early but at school. I do have internet at home but I'm only able to use it half an hour once every few weeks since it has its own little "completely stops for no reason" periods which lasts weeks at a time but now that I'm here I'm going to catch up.

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HeroicGammaRay
02/08/12 3:44:00 AM
#491:


please use topic 3

sidenote (to everyone): check the mafia board for links to archives of past topics
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