Board 8 > Kazbar ranks 100 Pokemon moves (chosen by you!) with write-ups

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/16/12 9:13:00 PM
#201:


Down to the final 18.

100. Splash
99. Constrict
98. Helping Hand
97. Tail Whip
96. Entrainment
95. Double Team
94. Poison Sting
93. Tackle
92. Bubble
91. Supersonic
90. Harden
89. Water Gun
88. Lick
87. String Shot
86. Cut
85. Acid
84. Bulk Up
83. Coil
82. Dark Pulse
81. Tickle
80. Fury Attack
79. Electro Ball
78. Sandstorm
77. Double Kick
76. Sunny Day
75. Techno Blast
74. Overheat
73. Hail
72. Heart Swap
71. Curse
70. Quiver Dance
69. Mirror Shot
68. Belly Drum
67. Trick Room
66. Night Shade
65. Petal Dance
64. Tail Glow
63. Water Pulse
62. Hyper Fang
61. False Swipe
60. Bug Buzz
59. Rain Dance
58. Hyper Beam
57. Jump Kick
56. Acrobatics
55. Volt Tackle
54. Psybeam
53. Triple Kick
52. Dragon Rage
51. Thunderpunch
50. Stomp
49. Fiery Dance
48. Toxic Spikes
47. Dragon Tail
46. Focus Blast
45. Dragon Dance
44. Leech Seed
43. High Jump Kick
42. Rolling Kick
41. Horn Drill
40. Hydro Pump
39. Shell Smash
38. Thunderbolt
37. Spore
36. Razor Shell
35. Mega Kick
34. Spacial Rend
33. Sky Attack
32. Solarbeam
31. Softboiled
30. Meteor Mash
29. Fissure
28. Razor Wind
27. Mist Ball
26. Fly
25. Luster Purge
24. Shadow Ball
23. Milk Drink
22. Twineedle
21. Moonlight
20. Mirror Move
19. Judgment

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XIII_rocks
02/16/12 9:22:00 PM
#202:


Wait, wasn't Judgement like....pillars of light? Or am I thinking of something else.

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GenesisSaga
02/16/12 9:35:00 PM
#203:


According to Bulbapedia it is neither black and white orbs nor pillars of light, but rather pink meteors:

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Judgment_(move)

But maybe Bulbapedia only denotes the Gen5 animation and you guys are thinking Gen4.

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Natwaf_akidna
02/16/12 9:51:00 PM
#204:


Man thumbs down is a horrible idea.

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do_ob_tpkillr
02/17/12 2:57:00 AM
#205:


you should do a top one hundred abilities next.
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Raka_Putra
02/17/12 3:05:00 AM
#206:


Aww yeah 20

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/17/12 4:42:00 AM
#207:


From: do_ob_tpkillr | #205
you should do a top one hundred abilities next.


Problem with this idea is there's really only two criteria to rank them on: in-game use and competitive use. And while that's fine, the reason I chose moves is that there's so much to them. I can have distinct memories of moves, or moves with really cool animations, or remembering how the announcer in Pokemon Stadium would say "SUBMISSION GOING DOWN!", or talk about how a move destroys everything in competitive after you setup X, Y and Z. Plus, doing moves wasn't doing Pokemon themselves, which, while I love them, is a bit overdone on this board for me to let myself go that route.

I mean, I guess if everyone and their grandmothers begged me to do it, I'd do it, but otherwise I'll have to pass on this idea.

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htaeD
02/17/12 4:53:00 AM
#208:


XIII_rocks posted...
Wait, wasn't Judgement like....pillars of light? Or am I thinking of something else.

Tales of Symphonia and games like it?

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/17/12 6:29:00 PM
#209:


18. Brave Bird
Nominated by: swordz9
Introduced: Gen IV
Pokemon I associate this move with: Staraptor


Brave Bird came along in Gen IV and instantly became the physical Flying move of choice. While I prefer Drill Peck due to lack of recoil and general coolness (spoiler for future rankings), it's hard to deny Brave Bird is probably more useful, because the extra damage done is usually well worth the recoil. Unless some super-amazing new Flying move comes along in the future, this one will probably remain a top option for many of the Pokemon that learn it for generations to come.

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/17/12 6:51:00 PM
#210:


17. Swords Dance
Nominated by: GenesisSaga
Introduced: Gen I
Pokemon I associate this move with: Scyther


Swords Dance is a great all around move. It's extremely useful both in-game and in the metagame, it's always had a pretty damn cool animation, and it really has no true flaws. Though, I do wonder, with Swords Dance...what does that entail, exactly? Does the Pokemon apparate floating swords around itself and dance, like in Pokemon Stadium? Or perhaps they dance while showing off the sharpest part of their body (Scyther's scythes, Charizard's claws, etc). Who knows?

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/17/12 7:35:00 PM
#211:


16. Transform
Nominated by: Raka_Putra
Introduced: Gen I
Pokemon I associate this move with: Ditto


Yet again, the move is supported by it's main user: Ditto. I love Ditto; not quite as much as Beedrill, I guess, but he's still in the top 20. So why is Transform higher than Twineedle? Cause of it's appearance in the anime. Seeing Ditto transform into a cannon was awesome. (Though Duplica might be the second worst Pokemon anime character ever, after Ritchie). So...well, there you go.

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Sorozone
02/17/12 7:36:00 PM
#212:


Ritchie hating? I approve.

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/17/12 9:19:00 PM
#213:


15. Stealth Rock
Nominated by: GenesisSaga
Introduced: Gen IV
Pokemon I associate this move with: Aerodactyl


I don't know if there's ever been a move that effected the metagame more than Stealth Rock. Nowadays, if you're not running Stealth Rock, Rapid Spin to get rid of Stealth Rock, or both, you're going to have some serious trouble. Pokemon like Articuno and Moltres were instantly made all-but-useless, and setting up Stealth Rock or preventing the setup of Stealth Rock became main focal points of the beginning of matches. That's not to say you can't necessarily win without Stealth Rock or without preventing Stealth Rock, but it certainly helps. Add to that the fact that the thought of floating pointed rocks skewering every incoming Pokemon is pretty cool, and there's really no question as to its placement.

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Pram_the_Oracle
02/17/12 9:53:00 PM
#214:


Ahh, Stealth Rock.

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Murphiroth
02/17/12 9:55:00 PM
#215:


I think I have one move left, and I can't remember what the last one I nominated was. Should be a nice surprise!

And I love Stealth Rock. I remember springing it on some of my friends who don't really know anything about the competitive side of Pokemon...good times.

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GenesisSaga
02/17/12 10:06:00 PM
#216:


Oh no! Stealth Rock too low! XD

But that's okay. I'm glad the last one I nominated places higher than all the others because I associate it with my favorite pokémon. :3

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Pram_the_Oracle
02/17/12 10:13:00 PM
#217:


Good ol' CC. I abused it like hell when i used my mono-fighting team in Platinum.

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/17/12 10:17:00 PM
#218:


14. Close Combat
Nominated by: Natwaf_akidna
Introduced: Gen IV
Pokemon I associate this move with: Infernape


Speaking of metagame changing moves, this one didn't do as much as Stealth Rock, but I'll be damned if it didn't do anything. Who cares about the downsides of this move (lowering both defenses) when it can hit so hard with perfect accuracy? And even though the animation is nothing special, the very thought of an Infernape (or whatever) just charging in and smacking the opponent around is pretty god damn cool, IMO. Hard to argue with this one.

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/18/12 6:54:00 PM
#219:


13. Extremespeed
Nominated by: GenesisSaga
Introduced: Gen II
Pokemon I associate this move with: Rayquaza


Extremespeed is Quick Attack on steroids. It takes the term "priority attack" and uses it to bash your skull open. Being hit with a move with 80 BP that is almost guaranteed to go before you is no fun, but using it is the exact opposite. It's got a pretty decent animation to boot. Overall this is just a really neat move, and it's the kind of move that any Pokemon that gets it should probably be using it.

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GenesisSaga
02/18/12 6:58:00 PM
#220:


Nnnnnnnooooooo! I was hoping for one Top Ten placement. T_T

Emporer_Kazbar posted...
Pokemon I associate this move with: Rayquaza

>=/

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Natwaf_akidna
02/18/12 7:01:00 PM
#221:


I remember getting the Extremespeed Dratini in GSC.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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WickIebee
02/18/12 7:07:00 PM
#222:


Wait, I thought one of my noms was Aerial Ace, can it possibly be this high up?

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/18/12 7:16:00 PM
#223:


From: WickIebee | #222
Wait, I thought one of my noms was Aerial Ace, can it possibly be this high up?


As a matter of fact:

12. Aerial Ace
Nominated by: Wicklebee
Introduced: Gen III
Pokemon I associate this move with: Farfetch'd


What gets Aerial Ace so high on this list? Well, for one, when I picture it in my head, it's pretty damn cool looking. And, of course, it does have it's uses, being a no-miss move, especially with, say, Scyther, hitting for STAB Technician Aerial Ace. But the biggest thing I like about this move is the name. Aerial Ace. It's just so awesome! I dare say it's the best named Pokemon move in the game. So yeah, it only has 60 BP. But I can deal with that when it has these upsides.

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Murphiroth
02/18/12 7:18:00 PM
#224:


I love Aerial Ace.

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GenesisSaga
02/18/12 7:20:00 PM
#225:


Links from funnyjunk.com never work for the record. That link redirects to the home page.

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/18/12 7:22:00 PM
#226:


From: GenesisSaga | #225
Links from funnyjunk.com never work for the record. That link redirects to the home page.


His link is working for me just fine.

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Natwaf_akidna
02/18/12 7:24:00 PM
#227:


Can't see it

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/18/12 7:26:00 PM
#228:


Well, here's a repost for the people who can't see it:

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GenesisSaga
02/18/12 7:27:00 PM
#229:


Natwaf_akidna posted...
Can't see it

It shows up if you copy and paste it into your browser, but as far as I know no link that comes from funnyjunk is clickable.

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WickIebee
02/18/12 7:28:00 PM
#230:


Well, I still have one more and I don't remember what it is.

I can guess, but I don't remember exactly.

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Murphiroth
02/18/12 7:40:00 PM
#231:


Weird, the link works fine for me.

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/18/12 9:24:00 PM
#232:


11. Doom Desire
Nominated by: SSJSephirothGokuX123
Introduced: Gen III
Pokemon I associate this move with: Jirachi


I always liked the concept of the move Future Sight, when it came out. The idea of setting up a move that will hit the opponent when they might not be ready for it is a good one to me. It wasn't a great attack, but it worked. Doom Desire is what would happen if Future Sight got a type change and did a few reps in the gym every day. It's not often used in competitive, but I have seen it used to good effect in that environment. You just can't really rely on it is all. Add to that how sweet that animation is, and you have a great move.

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Raka_Putra
02/18/12 11:10:00 PM
#233:


Top ten.

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htaeD
02/19/12 2:39:00 AM
#234:


but I liked Duplica :(
Ritchie hate is well deserved tho

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Pram_the_Oracle
02/19/12 5:05:00 AM
#235:


Man nobody from SEA can see Imageshack either.

Found it through other methods though.

Boss Diglett.

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/19/12 4:40:00 PM
#236:


10. Seed Flare
Nominated by: SSJSephirothGokuX123
Introduced: Gen IV
Pokemon I associate this move with: Shaymin


Once again, a move that's useful AND has a kickass animation. And I mean it when I say this move has to be in at least the top 10 as far as animation's go. THIS is how Legendary signature moves should look like, not like that wimpy Techno Blast. No, Seed Flare builds up, then KABOOM with assisting screen shake. GameFreak should be taking lessons from themselves on this one right here. And, like I said, it's also REALLY useful, unlike, again, Techno Blast, so it's definitely a great combination and worthy of the top ten here. Plus, it reiterates just how damn disappointing Techno Blast was, and that's always a good thing.

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Natwaf_akidna
02/19/12 4:42:00 PM
#237:


Yay Techno Blast hate!

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/19/12 5:17:00 PM
#238:


9. Draco Meteor
Nominated by: Natwaf_akidna
Introduced: Gen IV
Pokemon I associate this move with: Salamence


Speaking of awesome looking moves that are useful, well, here's another one. In fact, besides the legendary signature move parts, I could pretty much copy and paste Seed Flare's write-up into this one's (Yes, even the Techno Blast hate. Which is even more biting here, since this is a move multiple Pokemon can use). The only downside is how using the move chops away at your special attack, but, hey, nobody's perfect. Hence, 9th spot for Draco Meteor.

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/19/12 6:03:00 PM
#239:


8. Psychic
Nominated by: Raka_Putra
Introduced: Gen I
Pokemon I associate this move with: Alakazam


This move is the epitome of what Psychic-typing meant in Gen I, and that back then, as I'm sure a lot of you know, there was no two ways about it being the most powerful type. The only thing this move didn't cut straight through back in the day was other Psychics and a few stragglers here and there (Chansey and Snorlax, to name what were most likely the most prominent). Since then, two new types that resist/aren't effected by Psychic have come along, as well as many powerful Pokemon of other types, and these days Psychic typing is actually more of a weakness than a strong suit. But for one gen, they ruled them all, and I don't think any move makes me remember those good ol' days quite like this one.

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XIII_rocks
02/19/12 11:35:00 PM
#240:


Draco Meteor one of my favourite moves

Everything about it screams "awesome"

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Raka_Putra
02/20/12 2:23:00 AM
#241:


Aww yeah Psychic.

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02/20/12 4:11:00 PM
#242:


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Emporer_Kazbar
02/20/12 5:14:00 PM
#243:


7. Surf
Nominated by: Murphiroth
Introduced: Gen I
Pokemon I associate this move with: Feraligatr


Surf is, hands down, the most useful HM move in the games. You often need it, you often can't wait to have it. And to top it all off, it is not only useful competitively, but actually REALLY useful, because it's simply really tough to deny a 95 BP, perfect accuracy move. Sure, some Pokemon prefer Waterfall in their arsenal because they have better physical attack than special, but more water types than not have higher special, and thus prefer Surf. Yes, surfing itself isn't always fun in-game, especially when doing so in Tentacool infested waters, but it allows you to go places you couldn't otherwise, not only forward, but where you've been. Going across little bodies of water in old towns is usually the first thing I try to do after getting Surf. All-in-all, it's a great move, and definitely worthy of number seven.

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Natwaf_akidna
02/20/12 5:17:00 PM
#244:


I'm okay with Tentacool, actually.

Then Basculins with their goddam Aqua Jets replaced them.

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/20/12 5:40:00 PM
#245:


6. Ice Beam
Nominated by: SilentWanderer
Introduced: Gen I
Pokemon I associate this move with: Lapras


The other half of the fabled BoltBeam combo, but also an in-general good move on its own. Ice-type has always been one of my favorite Pokemon types, and so obviously a move most (if not all) of them can learn is going to be high up. Another reason for this is because of the Freeze status effect, which I've always loved. Mind you, no one liked it when on the receiving end in first gen, but I also don't like how 90% of the time it seems to melt the same turn I've frozen them in the more recent games (I know those aren't the official odds, but that's what it seems like whenever I freeze someone). Freezing the opponent might as well have been an OHKO move back in the day, because CPU's rarely ever carried Ice Heal, and there was no other way to unfreeze a Pokemon, so in competitive it meant said Pokemon was done for. Anyway, love the status (In general), love the move, love Ice-types.

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02/20/12 6:11:00 PM
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5. Earthquake
Nominated by: Natwaf_akidna
Introduced: Gen I
Pokemon I associate this move with: Golem


Is there any doubt that this move is awesome? Any naysayers here? Because man oh man, how could you not like this move? Just picture a Pokemon slamming its foot into the ground and causing a huge shake in the Earth. The only real question, at first, is how this actually damages the opponent, until you go play Pokemon Stadium and see how it works there. It's battle animations run from good to stellar, and competitively it is one of THE most useful moves, and always has been. I'm just going to start repeating myself if I keep going, so yeah, Earthquake's great, no two ways about it.

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Natwaf_akidna
02/20/12 6:12:00 PM
#247:


Oh hey, I'm not the only who sees it as somebody stomping their foot to **** things up!

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02/20/12 6:14:00 PM
#248:


Emporer_Kazbar posted...
5. Earthquake
Nominated by: Natwaf_akidna
Introduced: Gen I
Pokemon I associate this move with: Golem

Is there any doubt that this move is awesome? Any naysayers here? Because man oh man, how could you not like this move? Just picture a Pokemon slamming its foot into the ground and causing a huge shake in the Earth. The only real question, at first, is how this actually damages the opponent, until you go play Pokemon Stadium and see how it works there. It's battle animations run from good to stellar, and competitively it is one of THE most useful moves, and always has been. I'm just going to start repeating myself if I keep going, so yeah, Earthquake's great, no two ways about it.


Aw, Sandslash is totally the pokemon I associate with Earthquake. Imagining him using it looks so much better than imagining Golem.

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Emporer_Kazbar
02/20/12 6:18:00 PM
#249:


From: Terrible_Terror | #248
Aw, Sandslash is totally the pokemon I associate with Earthquake. Imagining him using it looks so much better than imagining Golem.


I only ever used Sandslash in HG, and while I loved it there, I of course didn't get to use Earthquake until right before the Elite 4. Thus, it's hard to make that association for me.

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Natwaf_akidna
02/20/12 6:19:00 PM
#250:


I associate Sandslash with Dig, really.

Golem EQ stomp, aww yeah.

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