33. Sky Attack Nominated by: MeteorExF Introduced: Gen I Pokemon I associate this move with: Noctowl
Sky Attack is a pretty cool move, if for nothing else than how it looked in the Pokemon Stadium games. Yeah, it's all-but useless competitively (as are most 2-move attacks), and I don't know if I'm the only one, but I never saw it used in-game in Gen II until I transferred my own Pokemon with it over. Those are what keep it from being even higher. But, again, it's a cool looking move, plain and simple, and the fact that it got here pretty much on that merit alone should tell you how much I like it.
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32. Fiery Dance Nominated by: Murphiroth Introduced: Gen V Pokemon I associate this move with: Volcarona
Kind of regretting putting this one so high, in retrospect. This is one of the moves that bounced around a lot as the list was being made; I think I originally had it at 52 or so. Mind you, I'm glad I moved it up a little, but 32 is too much, the more I look at it. Probably would have put it behind Horn Drill if I could have a do-over. I mean, it's a fine move, but it's nothing great (Especially for a move learned at level 100), and it's animation, taking another look at it, isn't as good as I remember. Oh well, what'cha gonna do?
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31. Softboiled Nominated by: MarvelousGerbil Introduced: Gen I Pokemon I associate this move with: Chansey
I learned a few things about Softboiled just now, looking it up. See, I knew it was a TM in Gen I, but I had no idea Chansey and Mew were the only ones that could learn it in that Gen. It begs the question of why they didn't just give Chansey Softboiled as a level-up move and give something else the TM spot instead. Anyway, the things I like about this move: it's unique, it has the cool ability to heal a teammate outside of battle, and I find it kind of interesting in a grotesque way when I imagine Chansey eating it's own egg to gain health. At least, that's what's insinuated by the animation.
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Softboiled always brings me back to the day of me and my friend always battling Mew vs Mewtwo. Me with the cute loveable Mew with Softboiled :3 and him with the Mewtwo with Recover.
These battles lasted a long time usually lol.
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Silver_Ermine posted... Softboiled always brings me back to the day of me and my friend always battling Mew vs Mewtwo. Me with the TM ***** Mew with Softboiled :3 and him with the Mewtwo with Recover.
These battles lasted a long time usually lol.
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WickIebee posted... Silver_Ermine posted... Softboiled always brings me back to the day of me and my friend always battling Mew vs Mewtwo. Me with the TM ***** Mew with Softboiled :3 and him with the Mewtwo with Recover.
These battles lasted a long time usually lol.
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You are pretty damn awful.
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From: WickIebee | #159 Silver_Ermine posted... Softboiled always brings me back to the day of me and my friend always battling Mew vs Mewtwo. Me with the TM ***** Mew with Softboiled :3 and him with the Mewtwo with Recover.
These battles lasted a long time usually lol.
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Not a Mew fan, eh?
Guess that means I'm not a Wicklebee fan.
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From: Emporer_Kazbar | #156 31. Softboiled Nominated by: MarvelousGerbil Introduced: Gen I Pokemon I associate this move with: Chansey
I learned a few things about Softboiled just now, looking it up. See, I knew it was a TM in Gen I, but I had no idea Chansey and Mew were the only ones that could learn it in that Gen. It begs the question of why they didn't just give Chansey Softboiled as a level-up move and give something else the TM spot instead. Anyway, the things I like about this move: it's unique, it has the cool ability to heal a teammate outside of battle, and I find it kind of interesting in a grotesque way when I imagine Chansey eating it's own egg to gain health. At least, that's what's insinuated by the animation.
RBY had a lot of really strange TM choices. Woo, now you can teach water gun to ratatta!
30. Meteor Mash Nominated by: MeteorExF Introduced: Gen III Pokemon I associate this move with: Metagross
The animation to this move is awesome. And it slams you hard when you're getting hit by it via Metagross. I suppose I could elaborate more and talk about the way it has helped Metagross, along with great stats and excellent typing, become a Pokemon that will be an OU staple for pretty much the rest of time, but I'm more preoccupied with the fact that someone could actually not like Mew. Like, seriously, how could you hate that cute little cat/fetus that has the second most versatility in all of Pokemon (Trailing only Smeargle). I guess some people just have awful taste. Those people being the ones that hate Mew.
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29. Fissure Nominated by: EverythingRuned Introduced: Gen I Pokemon I associate this move with: Dugtrio
Fissure is my second favorite OHKO move, trailing only Guillotine. I mean, Horn Drill is a horn drilling into the opponent, which is cool, but Drill Peck does the same and isn't OHKO. Then comes Sheer Cold, which is pretty nifty when you imagine the opponent being frozen instantly like those British guys in that otherwise-crappy Day After Tomorrow movie (By the way, Articuno is really awesome for having the Mind Reader/Sheer Cold combo. Just sayin'). Fissure is next, and you'd have to be crazy to not like the idea of stomping a huge crack into the ground for the opponent to fall to their doom into. Guillotine I think is self-explanatory. Anyway, like I said with Horn Drill, the fact that it's banned in competitive hurts it just a tiny bit, but there's just something to love about OHKO moves.
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Silver_Ermine posted... WickIebee posted... Silver_Ermine posted... Softboiled always brings me back to the day of me and my friend always battling Mew vs Mewtwo. Me with the TM ***** Mew with Softboiled :3 and him with the Mewtwo with Recover.
These battles lasted a long time usually lol.
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You are pretty damn awful.
Gotta agree with Ermy and Kaz here.
Mew is <3
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GenesisSaga posted... Gotta agree with Ermy and Kaz here.
Mew is <3
I will under no circumstance say Mew is a bad Poke, I want to say that. BUT I completely dislike Mew because the only way people use him/her is by shoving four TMs or 3 TMs and having it learn one move.
Where's the naturality in that? Answer: There is none.
EDIT: That's all I'm saying, people can be fans of it. It's cute and in truth would've had superiority over Mewtwo, except that it's used in a way I hate seeing Pokes be used.
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From: WickIebee | #169 I will under no circumstance say Mew is a bad Poke, I want to say that. BUT I completely dislike Mew because the only way people use him/her is by shoving four TMs or 3 TMs and having it learn one move.
Where's the naturality in that? Answer: There is none.
EDIT: That's all I'm saying, people can be fans of it. It's cute and in truth would've had superiority over Mewtwo, except that it's used in a way I hate seeing Pokes be used.
But this isn't true at all. A lot of Mew sets have Baton Pass, Nasty Plot and Psychic. Now, maybe you're going "Well that's fine for today's game, but what about in Gen I!"
Let me list all of Mew's naturally learnable moves in Gen I for you:
Pound Transform Metronome Mega Punch Psychic
Now, again, Psychic has always been used on Mew, but can you imagine how TERRIBLE a Mew set with Mega Punch/Transform/Metronome/Psychic would be? Mew's entire gimmick in Gen I (And arguably to this day) was it's versatility through TM's. This is like arguing Smeagle has been ruined by using anything but Sketch.
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28. Razor Wind Nominated by: Anagram Introduced: Gen I Pokemon I associate this move with: Absol
As I have previously mentioned, I'm a fan of rarely-used moves. Well, here's a major member of that faction. Once again, it's a two-move attack (that isn't even very powerful), so it's pretty worthless competitively, but it has a charm about it that I can't help but take notice of.
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27. Mist Ball Nominated by: SSJSephirothGokuX123 Introduced: Gen III Pokemon I associate this move with: Latias
Latias as a Pokemon has a good place in my heart. Not because I particularly like it (I don't dislike it, but there are plenty I prefer), but because in HeartGold, when I ran across it the first time, I chucked a Great Ball and caught it first try. I never really used it much, but I did try it out a bit, and I like Mist Ball. It's unique to Latias, and is pretty neat, animation-wise. Not quite as good as it's counterpart Luster Purge, though (Which you'll see coming up pretty soon).
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Emporer_Kazbar posted... But this isn't true at all. A lot of Mew sets have Baton Pass, Nasty Plot and Psychic. Now, maybe you're going "Well that's fine for today's game, but what about in Gen I!"
Let me list all of Mew's naturally learnable moves in Gen I for you:
Pound Transform Metronome Mega Punch Psychic
Now, again, Psychic has always been used on Mew, but can you imagine how TERRIBLE a Mew set with Mega Punch/Transform/Metronome/Psychic would be? Mew's entire gimmick in Gen I (And arguably to this day) was it's versatility through TM's. This is like arguing Smeagle has been ruined by using anything but Sketch.
Replace Mega Punch with a TM and you actually have a fun Poke... Based on Luck and pissing off an opponent with Transforming for no reason. You can tell I don't competitive play by this statement.
Also, wrong with the Smeargle argument. Sketch is literally used to give Smeargle any moveset. Having anything with Smeargle is perfectly fine because that's what Relm has that move for... I mean Smeargle.
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From: WickIebee | #173 Also, wrong with the Smeargle argument. Sketch is literally used to give Smeargle any moveset. Having anything with Smeargle is perfectly fine because that's what Relm has that move for... I mean Smeargle.
I was clearly being semi-hyperbolic.
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Emporer_Kazbar posted... I was clearly being semi-hyperbolic.
I know, but I'm saying that's not the argument I'm making. TMs are moves that the Poke may or may not learn in the first place, thus an excuse to give a Poke any move the user wants as long as the TM works.
I never liked using TMs due to the idea that you use it once and it's gone until you get it traded in by a friend (also known as the "starting over a game refund").
Sketch is a move destined to become any move, and that's its only ability.
I'm so stuck at not using TMs that even though B/W fixed that, I'm still not using TMs -_-... I really should to give some of my Pokes some varying moves, the only one that has four different typed moves is Durant, and Hustle sucks as an ability.
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That still has nothing to do with Mew being a "TM b****", when it's specific purpose is to be able to use TM's and be one of the most versatile Pokemon in the game. If anything, the one with problems here is you for having such a weird self-imposed play style!
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Emporer_Kazbar posted... That still has nothing to do with Mew being a "TM b****", when it's specific purpose is to be able to use TM's and be one of the most versatile Pokemon in the game. If anything, the one with problems here is you for having such a weird self-imposed play style!
Exactly, thus, I hate Mew because of my self-imposed play style. Got it?
Also, it's TM w****, not b****
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26. Fly Nominated by: EverythingRuned Introduced: Gen I Pokemon I associate this move with: Spearow
While Fly's uses as an actual move are limited, there is few more enjoyable HM moves to have on your team, for the utility of being able to fly to any city you've been to. Fly does not feel like a burden to put on your team, like Cut or Flash or Defog. You WANT Fly, and you want it ASAP. And there is nothing like finally getting Fly and just spurting way back to a town you haven't seen since the beginning of the game. Overall, I think it's pretty obvious why Fly is so high, guy.
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25. Luster Purge Nominated by: SSJSephirothGokuX123 Introduced: Gen III Pokemon I associate this move with: Latios
I have even LESS experience using Latios than Latias, but Luster Purge is identical to Mist Ball in everything but animation, so that doesn't matter. And I like this move's animation better. That's pretty much all there is to say about this one.
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24. Shadow Ball Nominated by: swordz9 Introduced: Gen II Pokemon I associate this move with: Mismagius
Neat looking move that's pretty useful. Just generally a good move overall. Like a few of the moves before this point, its placement is a matter of better moves in front of it, not it necessarily having any flaws. Man, that last write-up was short, and now this one's going to be pretty short to. At least complaining about the length of the write-ups increases the length of this one, thus making it look better in the long run.
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23. Milk Drink Nominated by: SuperAngelo128 Introduced: Gen II Pokemon I associate this move with: Miltank
It's virtually identical to Softboiled, both in healing and ability to heal outside of battle, but replace the morbid curiosity of Chansey eating it's own egg with the kind-of-hilarious image of Miltank bending over and sucking from it's own teat. I mean, here's Miltank in the middle of this heated battle, then suddenly, *bend* *gulp gulp gulp* and she's ready to go! The only flaw with this move is that having it doesn't automatically produce Moomoo Milk for the player to carry. I guess we need bottles on hand to carry it in something, but still.
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22. Twineedle Nominated by: 20three Introduced: Gen I Pokemon I associate this move with: Beedrill
You know how waaaay back at number 90 I gave Harden the place I did mostly out of my love for Metapod? Same concept here, except for Beedrill. And while numerically they aren't all-that separated (My current list stands with Metapod at 30 and Beedrill at 9), this just kind of goes to show you how much I love Beedrill. Also boosting it is the fact that, in my first LeafGreen run, Beedrill stayed on my team the entire way through the Elite 4, and this move ended up being my main weapon against Schlomo's (My nickname for my rival, always) Alakazam. Sure, there was the risk that it would kill me with Psychic before I could hit it, but it never did, for some reason, and thus Beedrill slammed him down every time. Statistically speaking, it's not a great move, but clearly I don't really care about that.
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21. Moonlight Nominated by: GTM Introduced: Gen II Pokemon I associate this move with: Vileplume
Here's a move that, while useful, is getting here pretty much on animation alone. For some unknown reason, it's animation in every game (Especially Pokemon Stadium 2) has always struck me as really, really cool, and so, when coupled with it's semi-usefulness (It's not as good as pretty much any other recovery move, but it's still a recovery move), it just had to be this high on the list.
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20. Mirror Move Nominated by: Raka_Putra Introduced: Gen I Pokemon I associate this move with: Fearow
Some may see having Mirror Move having a high-ranking as a cop out, since all the move does is copy the opponents move. Those people can suck it. What's great about Mirror Move is that suddenly you have to picture a Fearow, or Pidgeot, or whatever has it DOING whatever move it copies. How does a bird, say, use Surf? How about Dig? Softboiled writes its own joke. Basically, it's a great move because it makes you use your imagination, and I imagine pretty cool things when considering this move, myself.
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I've never actually even used Stealth Rock. I nommed it because the anime made it look cool. I know what it does and how useful it is etc. but I've never had any use for it in-game.
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From: XIII_rocks | #196 Luster Purge and Mist Ball do actually have slightly different effects, not sure if it has been mentioned. One can lower SpA and one can lower SpD.
I knew, I just didn't care enough to mention it. Though I guess I should have said "nigh-identical" .
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I wasn't expecting those 2 moves to be so high up. Honestly I was expecting Luster Purge and Mist Ball to be called a poor man's Psychic that for some reason have less PP.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted... I wasn't expecting those 2 moves to be so high up. Honestly I was expecting Luster Purge and Mist Ball to be called a poor man's Psychic that for some reason have less PP.
19. Judgment Nominated by: Natwaf_akidna Introduced: Gen IV Pokemon I associate this move with: God Himself
A powerful, accurate move that is very befitting of the legendary it belongs to. My only problem with this move is the animation, but not in that I don't like it. It's just...well, how does tossing a bunch of black and white orbs at the opponent pass "Judgment" on them? (Though it looks cool in the movie) Honestly, it should be that hand from Metronome or Follow Me, but instead of waggling it has it's thumb out to the side, and points down, followed by a huge energy explosion. (Yes, I know technically thumbs up meant death in ancient Rome, but I don't give a s***). Oh well, at least it wasn't disappointing. Just odd.
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