Board 8 > I really hate humanity sometimes.

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Ayuyu
01/27/12 4:36:00 PM
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Or at least 270 people who voted in this survey.

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Ayuyu
01/27/12 4:37:00 PM
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Oh and I guess Edison too is crappy.

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LeonhartFour
01/27/12 4:37:00 PM
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Edison's got some amazing eyebrows there.

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MarvelousGerbil
01/27/12 4:38:00 PM
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I don't see Dexter on there...

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Xeybozn
01/27/12 4:39:00 PM
#5:


...What did Amelia Earhart invent?

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firefdr
01/27/12 4:39:00 PM
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That's US only right?
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LeonhartFour
01/27/12 4:39:00 PM
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From: Xeybozn | #005
...What did Amelia Earhart invent?


Disappearing without a trace while flying in a plane over the Atlantic.

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Ayuyu
01/27/12 4:39:00 PM
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From: Xeybozn | #005
...What did Amelia Earhart invent?


She innovated by leaving the kitchen as a woman.

/sexism

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Natwaf_akidna
01/27/12 4:40:00 PM
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... Amelia Earhart? Really?

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firefdr
01/27/12 4:43:00 PM
#10:


Oh wait, no it isn't

Even bigger LOL then
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Dark Young Link
01/27/12 4:48:00 PM
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I'd be more angry at all the text books who neglected Nikola Tesla.

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Ayuyu
01/27/12 4:49:00 PM
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Well yeah, Tesla should be on there and close to the top, it's really saddening to see he's not even in the freaking top 10.

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14_and_counting
01/27/12 4:49:00 PM
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Earhart, Zuckerberg (didn't even create the thing he is credited for alone) Jops. Curie, and Grandin don't even belong on that poll.

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The Real Truth
01/27/12 4:49:00 PM
#14:


Where are the Wright brothers and Benjamin Franklin?

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Ayuyu
01/27/12 4:52:00 PM
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From: The Real Truth | #014
Where are the Wright brothers and Benjamin Franklin?


Not in head of the ****heads who answered this poll.

It's our generation folks, time to weep.

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Raka_Putra
01/27/12 4:53:00 PM
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Well, it's not like the results are unexpected.

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Ayuyu
01/27/12 4:53:00 PM
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From: Raka_Putra | #016
Well, it's not like the results are unexpected.


That's the worst thing actually.

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WolfActual
01/27/12 4:55:00 PM
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14_and_counting posted...
Earhart, Zuckerberg (didn't even create the thing he is credited for alone) Jops. Curie, and Grandin don't even belong on that poll.

Curie absolutely belongs there.
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Uglyface2
01/27/12 4:57:00 PM
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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the people who said Amelia Earhart were thinking "aviator" instead of "innovator". That's not to say they aren't stupid, since that's a solid 30+ people who said it, but there you go.
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Xeybozn
01/27/12 5:04:00 PM
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Considering these add up to about 100%, I think this was a list for the responders to choose from.

So the really sad part is that someone out there thinks these are the top 6 innovators ever. And this someone is allowed to run a survey this big.

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The Real Truth
01/27/12 5:08:00 PM
#21:


The creator of the survey may have wanted to see if people would really vote for Steve Jobs that much.

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14_and_counting
01/27/12 5:12:00 PM
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From: WolfActual | #018
14_and_counting posted...
Earhart, Zuckerberg (didn't even create the thing he is credited for alone) Jops. Curie, and Grandin don't even belong on that poll.

Curie absolutely belongs there.




No, no she doesn't. She belong on the list, yes. SHe does not belong anywhere near the top 6, top 10, maybe even top 30.

There are EASILY 25 more people in the history of Earth more innovative than her.

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OmarsComin
01/27/12 5:12:00 PM
#23:


Steve Jobs huh
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Phase
01/27/12 5:22:00 PM
#24:


As much as I rag on Jobs/Apple I'd be hard pressed to find a person more critical for the transition from mainframe and hobbyist computing to personal computing. Now, the next 20-odd years were pretty much a wash, but that was a pretty important development.

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pjbasis
01/27/12 5:22:00 PM
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Crick and Watson(?) ftw

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pjbasis
01/27/12 5:23:00 PM
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And maybe Darwin and Mendel.

Bit of a biology bias

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LordoftheMorons
01/27/12 5:27:00 PM
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Edison was such a douche, and not nearly as intelligent as Tesla. He was just a good businessman.

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PrivateBiscuit1
01/27/12 5:29:00 PM
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Needs more Tesla.

I love how the picture shows Steve Jobs looking like the bitter jackass he was.

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TheRock1525
01/27/12 5:37:00 PM
#31:


SantaRPG posted...
poll

why would I say phone


then who was phone?

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Uglyface2
01/27/12 5:37:00 PM
#32:


pjbasis posted...
Crick and Watson(?) ftw

Rosalind Franklin, actually.
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Ace_Killjoy
01/27/12 5:42:00 PM
#33:


Came in here to say where's Tesla, but I'm glad to see other people thinking the same thing.

Also, Jobs looked angry.

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hockeydude15
01/27/12 5:43:00 PM
#34:


From: Xeybozn | #020
Considering these add up to about 100%, I think this was a list for the responders to choose from.

So the really sad part is that someone out there thinks these are the top 6 innovators ever. And this someone is allowed to run a survey this big.


Basically that.

I would put most of the blame on the people who ran the poll than the ones who voted in it.

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CalvinbalI
01/27/12 5:44:00 PM
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From: Phase | #024
As much as I rag on Jobs/Apple I'd be hard pressed to find a person more critical for the transition from mainframe and hobbyist computing to personal computing. Now, the next 20-odd years were pretty much a wash, but that was a pretty important development.


Someone more important to the advent of personal computing (and computing in general) died within the same month of Jobs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie

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WazzupGenius00
01/27/12 5:59:00 PM
#36:


why the hell is Amelia Earhart on this list, seriously

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AdditionalPylon
01/27/12 6:02:00 PM
#37:


From: SantaRPG | #029
Curie is fine.

But this is "all time" so the fact there's no da vinci is like

well basically it's about as awful as everything else on the phone


Santa knows.


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Phase
01/27/12 6:31:00 PM
#38:


CalvinbalI posted...
Someone more important to the advent of personal computing (and computing in general) died within the same month of Jobs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie


Uh... the C/Unix duo were pretty much completely non-important to personal computing. I mean, Unix as an OS saw basically zero use on non-programmer/academic work terminals until.... ever, because the most successful personal Unix product is... OS X (lol). The next most successful product that isn't OS X has 1% of the market share and isn't even a fork, it's a CLONE.

C you have a better argument for, but I would then counter that BASIC is pretty functionally similar and predates C. (the test I use for differentiation would be "how long would it take you to learn Python if you only knew that language?". If the answer is "really long", you've got something different from C/BASIC/Fortran) And C was also primarily designed as a system language, not an application language, though it did see significant use there, obviously.

The pair's certainly more important to computing in general, but if we go in that direction, von Neumann and Turing were far more important.

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Rad Link 5
01/27/12 6:37:00 PM
#39:


From: Xeybozn | #020
Considering these add up to about 100%, I think this was a list for the responders to choose from.

So the really sad part is that someone out there thinks these are the top 6 innovators ever. And this someone is allowed to run a survey this big.


This is definitely worth mentioning.

Still awful results, but knowing stuff is for losers, right?

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CalvinbalI
01/28/12 1:40:00 AM
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From: Phase | #038
CalvinbalI posted...
Someone more important to the advent of personal computing (and computing in general) died within the same month of Jobs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie


Uh... the C/Unix duo were pretty much completely non-important to personal computing. I mean, Unix as an OS saw basically zero use on non-programmer/academic work terminals until.... ever, because the most successful personal Unix product is... OS X (lol).


This is absolutely, crazy bat-s*** absurd. How can you say that C and Unix were unimportant to personal computing when quite literally everything about Apple is founded on C and Unix? When the entire Android platform is founded on Unix? When more programs that your average person with a PC uses are programmed in a C-based language or a Unix-based OS than any other language or OS out there, combined?

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Phase
01/28/12 11:27:00 AM
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CalvinbalI posted...
This is absolutely, crazy bat-s*** absurd. How can you say that C and Unix were unimportant to personal computing when quite literally everything about Apple is founded on C and Unix? When the entire Android platform is founded on Unix? When more programs that your average person with a PC uses are programmed in a C-based language or a Unix-based OS than any other language or OS out there, combined?

Anything pre-OS X had... basically no rooting in Unix as far as I know? OS X was not version 10 of the Mac OS; it was a complete rewrite. Prior to OS X there was no Unix basing at all. (Old) Mac OS might've been written in C, but it's closed source so we won't know unless Apple said something about it. (plus there's the fact everything about it screams Basic)

Maybe the difference is in how we view the facts. Take C and Unix out of the equation. Say they never existed. What're you left with? A world where Basic and DOS/Windows only exist. ... Wait a sec, that sounds sort of familar. That sounds kinda like pretty much exactly like what the last two decades bar the last ~3 or so years have been for 95% of people. If C and Unix didn't exist, programmers would've just optimized the **** out of something else (likely, Basic).

Don't get me wrong, as a programmer, C (and Java/Python/the obvious C derivatives) and Linux are my personally preferred tools. But I'm not silly enough to say "I could never learn any other tool" nor am I disrespectful enough to say my predecessors could not have used or tuned any other tool.

Also, you SORELY underestimate the number of ****tily written Basic/Visual Basic programs out there that were and are still business critical. Business students traditionally learn Visual Basic or some variant. Yeah. (also, by "personal computer" I mean "not a mainframe or a hobbyist computer", if it wasn't clear. In other words "normal people computer")

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Vlado
01/28/12 11:47:00 AM
#42:


Newsflash: People are stupid.

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SovietOmega
01/28/12 11:54:00 AM
#43:


Man...I had no idea Edison was such an aviator...

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WiggumFan267
01/28/12 1:01:00 PM
#44:


I have to wonder how much time people were given to answer this

Because theres obviously some names that instantly come to mind
But then if you take your time and think more you can come up with some better answers

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Red Shifter
01/28/12 1:03:00 PM
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edison was pretty good at innovation

he innovated the idea that an "inventor" can be a complete bastard

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TimJab
01/28/12 1:08:00 PM
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i would have voted for chris kanyon

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Wanglicious
01/28/12 2:03:00 PM
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As much as I rag on Jobs/Apple I'd be hard pressed to find a person more critical for the transition from mainframe and hobbyist computing to personal computing.

...bill gates.
you know, a guy who spun the world on its head. that was the entire point of windows 95 and continued through in 98, failed with ME, succeeded again in 2000, and blew everything wide open with XP. macs were strictly the former until around the time OSX happened, which times pretty well with the period XP landed and took off 90% of the advantages macs had (remaining 10% being security basically). macs didn't do anything in this regard that wasn't already happening and being done. their hits are mostly with portable devices but even then they aren't the critical component despite how much they like to claim it - google/android murders everyone else in the field of smartphones (tablets meanwhile existed beforehand and advancements in this field are also being done by android, but apple does get the prize to say that was a profitable business too, just nothing for anything after that).

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metroid composite
01/28/12 3:09:00 PM
#48:


Yeah, it sounds like people were just given a list of six names and asked to select from the list.

In which case...the correct answer out of that list is probably...Marie Curie I guess?

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Phase
01/28/12 6:50:00 PM
#49:


Wanglicious posted...
As much as I rag on Jobs/Apple I'd be hard pressed to find a person more critical for the transition from mainframe and hobbyist computing to personal computing.

...bill gates.
you know, a guy who spun the world on its head. that was the entire point of windows 95 and continued through in 98, failed with ME, succeeded again in 2000, and blew everything wide open with XP. macs were strictly the former until around the time OSX happened, which times pretty well with the period XP landed and took off 90% of the advantages macs had (remaining 10% being security basically). macs didn't do anything in this regard that wasn't already happening and being done. their hits are mostly with portable devices but even then they aren't the critical component despite how much they like to claim it - google/android murders everyone else in the field of smartphones (tablets meanwhile existed beforehand and advancements in this field are also being done by android, but apple does get the prize to say that was a profitable business too, just nothing for anything after that).


Well, I expected to get at least one person to ignore the "the next 20-odd years were a wash" part of my comment.

Bill Gates had, in my opinion, a great knowledge of markets (and ways to make trollingly hilarious agreements), but he could not be credited with the transition. He broke no new ground. His success mainly stemmed from the fact that he understood if he could get a large lead in the corporate sector, everything would follow because of interoperability. He understood that it didn't matter what the academics used (as I noted, we can EASILY learn something else), but if you wanted to work on stuff at the office and then bring it home... you needed the same system because interoperability was a big issue back then.

By the time Windows 95 came around, PCs were pretty much undisputably proven viable for "normal people". (I would go so far as to say around the time 3 or 3.1 came out, it was pretty solidly decided already)

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