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Viktor Vaughn
12/05/11 8:03:00 AM
#101:


From: the icon ownz all | #097
Looking forward to picking up the JoshiMania DVD. Hope there's a quick turnaround on that, preferably before Christmas.

So, I'm sick, lacking in HD space, sleeping in a guest bed, and want to watch something until I fall asleep. Sounds like the perfect combination for an impromptu synchtube. Not sure if Voltch & co held one this weekend, but if anyone's up for it, I'll be starting around 12 AM PST. I'm gonna be watching wrestling anyway, so might as well watch it with someone, and I know snowy can't download stuff until late.


if you know what you wanna watch then go ahead and tell me

my internet situation has managed to get even worse, but i can download the matches while i'm here in school and fake synchtube

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SmartMuffin
12/05/11 8:05:00 AM
#102:


From: Gr8CyberMonkey | #099
Apparently he looks all roided up, nearly Mason Ryan-esque. I suggest they form a tag team called Wellness.


Unrelated, but I just want to rant about the wellness policy for a second.

It's REALLY stupid that they don't like, announce the results. The point of these policies isn't just to suspend people, but to publicly shame them. The fact that Evan Bourne just disappears for a month and the average kid watching has absolutely no idea why is a complete joke. I would assume this is all based on the WWE saying "well if we announce that people were on steroids that makes us look bad." as if that isn't the case for EVERY sports league that has steroid testing. You think the NFL likes announcing it when one of their stars violates the drug/roid policy? No, but they do it anyway, because it makes it seem like the league itself takes it seriously. Which the WWE obviously does not.

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muddersmilk
12/05/11 8:08:00 AM
#103:


I would assume this is all based on the WWE saying "well if we announce that people were on steroids that makes us look bad." as if that isn't the case for EVERY sports league that has steroid testing.

They would also have to deal with it in storylines. A face goes out for steroids and its announced that will affect how the marks react to him.

But yeah, they still need to do it.

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SmartMuffin
12/05/11 8:11:00 AM
#104:


They would also have to deal with it in storylines. A face goes out for steroids and its announced that will affect how the marks react to him.

You can keep someone a face even if they're a drug addict. Look at Jeff Hardy's entire career.

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Gr8CyberMonkey
12/05/11 8:16:00 AM
#105:


They do announce violations of the wellness policy on the website. I assume they don't do it on TV because it would break kayfabe.

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SmartMuffin
12/05/11 8:21:00 AM
#106:


From: Gr8CyberMonkey | #105
They do announce violations of the wellness policy on the website. I assume they don't do it on TV because it would break kayfabe.


How would it break kayfabe? Is it kayfabe that the wellness policy doesn't exist? Are we supposed to believe that steroids are an issue in every sport except wrestling?

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Gr8CyberMonkey
12/05/11 8:28:00 AM
#107:


From: SmartMuffin | Posted: 12/5/2011 11:21:47 AM | #106
How would it break kayfabe? Is it kayfabe that the wellness policy doesn't exist? Are we supposed to believe that steroids are an issue in every sport except wrestling?


Steroids don't exist in kayfabe unless they need to for a story. Yeah, it's kind of weird, but kayfabe is its own magical world. There's a separation between the character a wrestler is portraying and the guy in real life. The actual person is the one who violated the policy, not the character.

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SmartMuffin
12/05/11 8:31:00 AM
#108:


I'm just not so sure that's true anymore.

I mean, if someone is legitimately injured, they announce it, even if it disrupts the storyline. The same should be true for wellness policy. Either that or just get rid of it entirely, because what's the point?

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the icon ownz all
12/05/11 8:32:00 AM
#109:


From: Viktor Vaughn | #101
if you know what you wanna watch then go ahead and tell me

my internet situation has managed to get even worse, but i can download the matches while i'm here in school and fake synchtube


well i was gonna do it last night, but no one responded, so i just watched the noah global league day 1 show. but if you wanna do it sometime tonight, i'm down.

i was thinking of:

2011-09-18 Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins
2011-03-13: Mephisto vs La Sombra
2011-01-30 Dick Togo vs. Antonio Hondo

i think that's about 90 minutes. togo/hondo is on ditch's site, mephisto/la sombra is on thecubsfan (and youtube), and I'm sure Ambrose/Black is on Youtube as well


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Gr8CyberMonkey
12/05/11 8:39:00 AM
#110:


From: SmartMuffin | Posted: 12/5/2011 11:31:59 AM | #108
I'm just not so sure that's true anymore.

I mean, if someone is legitimately injured, they announce it, even if it disrupts the storyline. The same should be true for wellness policy. Either that or just get rid of it entirely, because what's the point?


Normally they stage an injury angle in order to justify the wrestler disappearing, and to give them an easy revenge angle when they come back (this is generally what they do with wellness violators, too). The policy exists to shield WWE from the massive publicity hits that they got when it didn't exist (see this: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/e60/columns/story?columnist=assael_shaun&id=4055522).

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SHINE GET 64
12/05/11 8:39:00 AM
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Haguile
12/05/11 8:44:00 AM
#112:


From: SmartMuffin | Posted: 12/5/2011 11:31:59 AM | #108
I'm just not so sure that's true anymore.

I mean, if someone is legitimately injured, they announce it, even if it disrupts the storyline. The same should be true for wellness policy. Either that or just get rid of it entirely, because what's the point?


The point of the wellness policy is to keep people from killing themselves. It was put into place after Eddie died, if I remember correctly. It's there to make people go "woah it's not worth becoming addicted to something if I'm going to lose my job for it" or "if I'm addicted, then I need to get help from the programs offered by the WWE." No offense, but saying they should get rid of it because they don't announce it on tv is ridiculous.

They like to cultivate a weird saturday morning cartoonish vibe in the pg era, so I don't think it's weird they avoid mentioning drug policies. It's not like they go out of their way to hide it or anything, they just don't say it on the show itself.

...That said it was dumb not to write out Bourne with an injury. I mean they did it for Troof, why not Bourne?

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TimJab
12/05/11 8:44:00 AM
#113:


joshimania tickets were way too expensive and to be honest i'm not really all that into joshi

i agree that mio shirai is hot as hell though

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Viktor Vaughn
12/05/11 9:14:00 AM
#114:


From: the icon ownz all | #109
well i was gonna do it last night, but no one responded, so i just watched the noah global league day 1 show. but if you wanna do it sometime tonight, i'm down.

i was thinking of:

2011-09-18 Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins
2011-03-13: Mephisto vs La Sombra
2011-01-30 Dick Togo vs. Antonio Hondo

i think that's about 90 minutes. togo/hondo is on ditch's site, mephisto/la sombra is on thecubsfan (and youtube), and I'm sure Ambrose/Black is on Youtube as well


oh hey, i didn't even look at the timestamp on that post

but yeah, i can get those

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XIII_rocks
12/05/11 9:22:00 AM
#115:


I presume they didn't write out Bourne because they didn't want to strip AirBoom of the titles...though they could still have made that work. Whatever

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Bidoofaphilia
12/05/11 9:24:00 AM
#116:


Viktor Vaughn posted...
From: the icon ownz all | #109
well i was gonna do it last night, but no one responded, so i just watched the noah global league day 1 show. but if you wanna do it sometime tonight, i'm down.

i was thinking of:

2011-09-18 Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins
2011-03-13: Mephisto vs La Sombra
2011-01-30 Dick Togo vs. Antonio Hondo

i think that's about 90 minutes. togo/hondo is on ditch's site, mephisto/la sombra is on thecubsfan (and youtube), and I'm sure Ambrose/Black is on Youtube as well
oh hey, i didn't even look at the timestamp on that post

but yeah, i can get those


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SmartMuffin
12/05/11 9:24:00 AM
#117:


The point of the wellness policy is to keep people from killing themselves.

Between Benoit (already) and both Hardys (soon) it doesn't seem to be working too well!

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Kinglicious
12/05/11 10:18:00 AM
#118:


Joshimania dvds are out tomorroe. They said 48 hours would be the release. So yeah, image if anyone else had that turnaround.

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Kinglicious
12/05/11 10:25:00 AM
#119:


For every hardy you have guys like gold dust though, and I would sooner expect that to be a good 3 to 1 ratio.

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the icon ownz all
12/05/11 10:35:00 AM
#120:


From: Bidoofaphilia | #116
Is this a planned synchtube thing? If so, what day/time?


Today, probably during or just after RAW if that's okay with snowy.


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muddersmilk
12/05/11 10:40:00 AM
#121:


Not to mention that the Hardys haven't worked in WWE for awhile.

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Tom Bombadil
12/05/11 11:20:00 AM
#122:


From: Haguile | Posted: 12/5/2011 10:44:47 AM | #112
I mean they did it for Troof, why not Bourne?

Truth is, y'know, actually important.

I mean yes Bourne is a tag team champ but that is my point

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muddersmilk
12/05/11 11:22:00 AM
#123:


Kofi has made a career of showing that being a champ doesn't make you important.

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Haguile
12/05/11 11:57:00 AM
#124:


From: SmartMuffin | Posted: 12/5/2011 12:24:55 PM | #117
The point of the wellness policy is to keep people from killing themselves.

Between Benoit (already) and both Hardys (soon) it doesn't seem to be working too well!


The Hardys left WWE though, so you can't blame WWE's drug policy for that! And Benoit was (correct me if I'm wrong, I legitimately don't remember) brain trauma, not steroids. So it had nothing to do with the drug policy.

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Haguile
12/05/11 11:58:00 AM
#125:


From: Tom Bombadil | Posted: 12/5/2011 2:20:35 PM | #122
From: Haguile | Posted: 12/5/2011 10:44:47 AM | #112
I mean they did it for Troof, why not Bourne?

Truth is, y'know, actually important.

I mean yes Bourne is a tag team champ but that is my point


PIPE BOMB. But yeah, for all that talk of rebuilding the tag division...man. They should just vacate it and have like a 8 tag team tournament for the titles.

The only problem is that I doubt they have 8 teams.

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XIII_rocks
12/05/11 12:06:00 PM
#126:


I think they wanted to rebuild the tag division but stuff happened. Like they wanted to make Mahal and Khali a team but Khali quit wrestling, they wanted to make Ziggler and Swagger a legit team but they realized Ziggler is a total boss who needs to do stuff on his own I guess. They broke up Otunga and McGillicutty because Otunga is a hilarious smarmy lawyer-type, then Bourne got caught, then Truth got caught. Suddenly you've got a 1-man tag division.

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muddersmilk
12/05/11 12:10:00 PM
#127:


Let's see...

AirBoom
Usos
Swagger/Ziggler
Slater/Gabriel
The Hart Dynasty
Percy/Titus
two people from Christian/Wade/Cody heel stable?
Umm...I'm missing someone right? Screw it just put McIntyre and Reks in a team or something.

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Dauntless Hunter
12/05/11 12:21:00 PM
#128:


From: muddersmilk | #127
The Hart Dynasty


Tyson Kidd teaming with... himself? They fired DH Smith a while ago.

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Chronic1000
12/05/11 12:28:00 PM
#129:


So apparently this will be the new WWE Title:

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muddersmilk
12/05/11 12:38:00 PM
#130:


Chronic1000 posted...
So apparently this will be the new WWE Title:

It's an improvement!

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muddersmilk
12/05/11 12:39:00 PM
#131:


Dauntless Hunter posted...
From: muddersmilk | #127
The Hart Dynasty
Tyson Kidd teaming with... himself? They fired DH Smith a while ago.

oh right...

I can still do this...
AirBoom
Usos
Swagger/Ziggler
Slater/Gabriel
Truth/Curtis (he still needs his shot)
Hawkins/Barretta
McIntyre/Reks
Mahal/Clay
Percy/Titus
Sheamus/Mason Ryan (sorry Sheamus but I need another Face team)

Look at that, I even have extras!

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XIII_rocks
12/05/11 12:48:00 PM
#132:


Sheamus/Mason Ryan

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ScareChan
12/05/11 12:57:00 PM
#133:


Slater and Gabriel broke up a long time ago

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ScareChan
12/05/11 12:58:00 PM
#134:


And how do you not make it Sheamus and RYDER after that tag match

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muddersmilk
12/05/11 1:00:00 PM
#135:


ScareChan posted...
Slater and Gabriel broke up a long time ago

Well they're getting back together!

I couldn't resist the Wales/Ireland Alliance. But Sheamus/Ryder would be great as well.

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GTM
12/05/11 1:31:00 PM
#136:


Are they getting back together? I wouldn't hate it if they rejoin ob the basis that they were better together and have been nothing apart.

Reks is with Hawkins right now.

Put Mcintyre with Sheamus, please

And there is also Primo/Epico right now

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XIII_rocks
12/05/11 1:34:00 PM
#137:


Oh yeah Primo and Epico are new.

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bryans7
12/05/11 2:00:00 PM
#138:


If they wanted to go purely comedy, Ryder and Santino would work.

Sad they got rid of Kozlov as I thought he worked well with Santino as a straight man and would have been a perfect fit for the tag division.

Edit: Actually, they should do that with Mason Ryan. Have him be Santino's pal for awhile and eventually win the belts, then when Ryan eventually turns heel, destroy the crowd-favorite Santino.


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ScareChan
12/05/11 2:23:00 PM
#139:


But have Ryan still think he's face. Like he completely destroys Santino and then he gets on the top rope and celebrates all smiles


Actually that would be funny if a tag team started getting booed and the dude who sucks just goes "we're getting booed we gotta fix this" and just destroys the guy everyone likes and thinks hes the hero

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XIII_rocks
12/05/11 2:23:00 PM
#140:


I want a heel who tries really hard to be a face but keeps messing up

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ScareChan
12/05/11 2:24:00 PM
#141:


From: XIII_rocks | #140
I want a heel who tries really hard to be a face but keeps messing up


I want a reluctant heel in a face stable.

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muddersmilk
12/05/11 2:26:00 PM
#142:


Are they getting back together? I wouldn't hate it if they rejoin ob the basis that they were better together and have been nothing apart.

I am declaring it so, just as I am declaring the formation of those other teams.

Reks is with Hawkins right now.

Oh. WWE.com should really update people's pages. Guess I'm down to 9 teams then, cause Barreta/McIntyre doesn't seem right.

Put Mcintyre with Sheamus, please

I would love to, but that would require turning Sheamus heel or Drew face and that would not be good. When they are the same aligment I am all for them teaming though.

And there is also Primo/Epico right now

Awesome, add them to the list! Now I'm back to 10 teams!

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edwardsdv
12/05/11 2:34:00 PM
#143:


McIntyre should team with Regal.

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12/05/11 2:36:00 PM
#144:


From: XIII_rocks | #140
I want a heel who tries really hard to be a face but keeps messing up


This is like word for Word Steve Corino and Jimmy Jacobs in RoH

They eventreat being heel like having an addiction!

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Wanglicious
12/05/11 3:48:00 PM
#145:


ah yes, face corino.
'i swear i'll stop jabbing my thumb in people's asses.'

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the icon ownz all
12/05/11 4:08:00 PM
#146:





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PrivateBiscuit1
12/05/11 4:35:00 PM
#147:


Lilian Garcia has announced that she is returning to WWE as the full-time ring announcer for the Smackdown brand. There is a video up on WWE's website that was filmed backstage at RAW in Tampa where she makes the announcement.



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XIII_rocks
12/05/11 4:36:00 PM
#148:


Sweet!

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12/05/11 4:48:00 PM
#149:


the icon ownz all posted...



I love that, I used it for a UCA promo against Senor ctes once

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SmartMuffin
12/05/11 4:51:00 PM
#150:


Maybe you guys should go back and watch more Invasion, that had heels in face stables and faces in heel stables aplenty!

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