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IMPORTANT NOTE: This match will run concurrently with Megas/Evangeline, and Round 3 will not go up until it has concluded. Without further ado...
(6) Goku From Dragon Ball, Goku is a martial artist with a pure heart. Goku is quick to show mercy and often gives adversaries many chances to redeem themselves, though he can kill if the need arises. As a Saiyan, Goku has always possessed superhuman strength (he is capable of lifting many tons), flight, and reflexes, and is capable of reacting and fighting at superhuman speeds. Goku is not terribly bright outside of combat, but in terms of fighting he is a genius, capable of learning attacks after simply seeing them once.
Goku's signature move is the Kamehameha wave, a massive ki energy blast. He can amplify his power by transforming into a Super Saiyan, estimated to increase his power by 50 times; Super Saiyan 2, which is twice as strong; and Super Saiyan 3, which is four times as strong as the second level (though Goku has yet to master Super Saiyan 3). He can teleport nigh-instantly with Instant Transmission, though he needs to sense life to teleport somewhere.
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(2) Yuki Nagato From The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Yuki is an emotionless artificial lifeform with tremendous powers. As a Data Entity, she exhibits the ability of Data Control, which functions as a potent brand of reality warping. Among the abilities she exhibits, she has managed to exist outside the space-time continuum, rewrite her universe, and strip the sleeping god Haruhi of her powers. Perhaps even more notable than her Data Entity abilities is Nagato's intellect, which is developed almost beyond mortal comprehension. She has previously understood the rules and concepts of a game instantaneously, created flawless strategies based on her observations and was able to learn how to play a guitar mere moments after receiving one, and knowledge of the future thanks to the existence of her future selves feeding her information.
In previous matches, it's been assumed that Yuki starts the match hanging outside the space-time continuum and the enemy has to go find her. But now I'm starting to doubt that whole premise due to the "neutral terrain" thing. Is it really neutral if she gets to begin the match in a place where she's immune to all normal attacks?
Also, suppose the two of them start out face-to-face. What showings does Yuki have of face-to-face confrontations? Speaking of the "true" Yuki, not the girl avatar she controls. What does "true" Yuki look like, anyway?
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Goku, I've given my reasons previously, she simply can't hurt him, and starts the match in the same time space as him. Goku knows its a fight, hes going to take her out.
She will have time to break down Goku's powers and neutralize them. She's a high class reality warper tbh.
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From: Drakeryn | #016 In previous matches, it's been assumed that Yuki starts the match hanging outside the space-time continuum and the enemy has to go find her. But now I'm starting to doubt that whole premise due to the "neutral terrain" thing. Is it really neutral if she gets to begin the match in a place where she's immune to all normal attacks?
Also, suppose the two of them start out face-to-face. What showings does Yuki have of face-to-face confrontations? Speaking of the "true" Yuki, not the girl avatar she controls. What does "true" Yuki look like, anyway?
Nah, the premise isn't that. It's just that Yuki is omniscient, has lived through the battle before, knows what path to take to victory, and Goku can't even come close to speedblitzing her because it isn't his style.
dragon22391 posted... Question: does Goku have access to Super Saiyan 4 here? I don't see it mentioned in the write-up.
If we are going just by canon manga DB, of course not. But my thing is, this is done by fictional characters as a spectrum, and they are supposed to be at peak, so I always go with SSJ4 Goku for these (who by the way, unlike base or SSJ Goku, goes for the win right away, not one time in GT does he really wait to go for the kill as SSJ4, now part of that is probably LOL GT, but still).
From: Natwaf_akidna | #036 ... oh, yeah, I forgot Yuki is aware of every instant of herself in every moment in time, and can even contact her future/past selves.
See, THIS is why Yuki wins so hard she's probably the strongest character in this contest outside 'that guy'. You do NOT **** with foreknowledge. At all. Yuki can be legit argued as just talking Goku into giving up because she knows what to say. She's better at this than Sarda, and everybody else except you-know-who.
KanzarisKelshen posted... From: dragon22391 | #026 Question: does Goku have access to Super Saiyan 4 here? I don't see it mentioned in the write-up. No because it's noncanon. Unless specifically nominated as SSJ4 Goku he doesn't get that.
Well this is weird, especially since we have other alternate universe type things in here (Superman Prime was not canon last I checked, he existed as a what if character). That does change some Goku matches (like if this were STTGL like it should be if voters had a clue) I would take SSJ4 Goku over GL, but not SSJ3 Goku.
From: EmDubyaSee | #043 KanzarisKelshen posted... From: dragon22391 | #026 Question: does Goku have access to Super Saiyan 4 here? I don't see it mentioned in the write-up. No because it's noncanon. Unless specifically nominated as SSJ4 Goku he doesn't get that.
Well this is weird, especially since we have other alternate universe type things in here (Superman Prime was not canon last I checked, he existed as a what if character). That does change some Goku matches (like if this were STTGL like it should be if voters had a clue) I would take SSJ4 Goku over GL, but not SSJ3 Goku.
KanzarisKelshen posted... From: dragon22391 | #044 Regen isn't the thing; it's more, "can she take a hit from a normal person much less someone as powerful as Goku" By regen I mean 'reform from nothingness'.
Regenerating her avatar, or herself?
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