Board 8 > Anyone else ever find it weird how little control you have over your body?

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The Real Truth
10/03/11 12:14:00 AM
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Like, I always think about how I have no control over the cells in my body. It's like i'm the dude on the steering wheel while everyone else does their own thing to keep the machine running properly.

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MarvelousGerbil
10/03/11 12:17:00 AM
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It would cause so many problems for a human being to have to consciously make sure their heart is beating

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blindhobo13
10/03/11 12:18:00 AM
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I've always been amazed at how MUCH control I have over my body.

Like I can move my dick without touching it and I don't even KNOW how I did it. You just do.

I know it's not a lot in actuality but damn it feels weird.
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Blairville
10/03/11 12:19:00 AM
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I want the power to flex my ballsack.

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pjbasis
10/03/11 12:22:00 AM
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I think it's weird too man.

Not saying we should be able to control our bodies like we do our limbs and stuff, but it would be nice to have a program or something to use. Metabolism could be 1000 times more efficient.
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meisnewbie
10/03/11 12:57:00 AM
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Do you know what's scarier

how little we control our minds.

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Pram_the_Oracle
10/03/11 1:08:00 AM
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Nah.

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Liquid Wind
10/03/11 1:48:00 AM
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meisnewbie posted...
Do you know what's scarier

how little we control our minds.

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Seginustemple
10/03/11 2:47:00 AM
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you know what's really comforting, everything in the universe is a figment of my imagination so yall don't worry I got this

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bbbtime
10/03/11 2:54:00 AM
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I entered this topic thinking there would be a funny anecdote about someone pooping themselves.

I am leaving disappointed.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
10/03/11 6:06:00 AM
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Horror ensues when you realize you're not controlling anything in your body - it's controlling you. People are like anthills, nothing more than the sum of thousands of individual cells working to support it.

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VincentLauw
10/03/11 6:18:00 AM
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From: Seginustemple | #009
you know what's really comforting, everything in the universe is a figment of my imagination so yall don't worry I got this


what am I doing right now

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metroid composite
10/03/11 7:08:00 AM
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VincentLauw posted...
what am I doing right now

Posting on GameFAQs.

(What'd I win?)

And yeah, file me under the "I'm amazed how much control I have over my body" camp.

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Icehawk
10/03/11 7:27:00 AM
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you know whats crazy

how did I figure out how to jerk off when I was 13 with no real knowledge of anything

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Liquid Wind
10/03/11 7:30:00 AM
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I figured it out much earlier than that

the weird thing for me is that I didn't question it when it started shooting stuff out at the end...it just seemed perfectly normal even though it hadn't been doing that for years beforehand...
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Ayuyu
10/03/11 7:35:00 AM
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Takfloyd_mkII__ posted...
Horror ensues when you realize you're not controlling anything in your body - it's controlling you. People are like anthills, nothing more than the sum of thousands of individual cells working to support it.

Like I care ! The fact that I,m typing this without having to consciously think about it is awesome.

My cells are doing a pretty awesome job !

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WhoopsyDaisy
10/03/11 7:36:00 AM
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Blairville posted...
I want the power to flex my ballsack.

Um, I can flex my ballsack. I figured that was normal.

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Vlado
10/03/11 7:50:00 AM
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Takfloyd_mkII__ posted...
Horror ensues when you realize you're not controlling anything in your body - it's controlling you. People are like anthills, nothing more than the sum of thousands of individual cells working to support it.

Yeah, totally, man. That's why we are still supporting ourselves by hunting animals and gathering fruit... Oh wait.

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pjbasis
10/03/11 7:54:00 AM
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Uh.

How is that a retort of what he said, Vlado?
I don't think people are anthills, either, but neither are any animals.
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Vlado
10/03/11 7:55:00 AM
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By being above animals, who aren't even anthills themselves, we clearly aren't anthills, either.

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Liquid Wind
10/03/11 8:00:00 AM
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people being "above animals" is a pretty bold statement
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pjbasis
10/03/11 8:02:00 AM
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I felt that your argument was trying to say that hunting animals and gathering fruit was animal-like, and therefore, anthill-like.

Sarcastically.
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Vlado
10/03/11 8:04:00 AM
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Also a factualy correct one, LW.

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pjbasis
10/03/11 8:06:00 AM
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Well, above doesn't actually refer to anything, so I wouldn't say that statement is factually correct by any means.

If you mean, more intelligent and creative, then yes.
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3DSRage
10/03/11 8:12:00 AM
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Vlado - we aren't really above animals, we (you) are just deluded enough to think that we are. We still act on impulse, just like an animal, but only at a more fabric level. You may think you have a "choice" but what truly brought you to your decision isn't really something you distinctively chose.

You are merely a product of nature, so don't go thinking that you are truly the hands behind the puppet. You are still just A PUPPPPPPEEEEEETTT!!!
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Liquid Wind
10/03/11 8:12:00 AM
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technological supremacy is really the only thing that removes humans from apes, we're not a very sophisticated species at all in the grand scheme of things. we can figure out amazing things like how to build a machine that will take us into space but we can't fix our monkeyish behavior at all, it's kind of hilarious how our technology is improving at such a ridiculous pace these days but we still act the same as we have for thousands of years
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Zachnorn
10/03/11 8:23:00 AM
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it's kind of hilarious how our technology is improving at such a ridiculous pace these days but we still act the same as we have for thousands of years

Going on a tangent here, but it's also kind of funny how our current technology should theoretically be primitive compared to technology in several hundred years!

EDIT: By primitive, I mean like comparing the first printing presses to other forms of publishing "printed" works (e-books, websites, etc.) that can be viewed on a smartphone.

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metroid composite
10/03/11 8:25:00 AM
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Liquid Wind posted...
technological supremacy is really the only thing that removes humans from apes, we're not a very sophisticated species at all in the grand scheme of things. we can figure out amazing things like how to build a machine that will take us into space but we can't fix our monkeyish behavior at all, it's kind of hilarious how our technology is improving at such a ridiculous pace these days but we still act the same as we have for thousands of years

I dunno, the manner era in Victorian England took a real stab at fixing monkeyish behavior. I think that shows that we could modify and inhibit our behavior if we wanted to. The most recent era has been more about cutting loose--don't waste mental energy on modifying your behavior, do what feels right to you; as long as you're happy and productive at work.

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Leebo86
10/03/11 8:29:00 AM
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Even if we can inhibit our aggressive, tribal impulses, they're still a part of us. They were useful in the past, and now we are stuck with them. It's not easy to fight them most of the time.

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Zachnorn
10/03/11 8:32:00 AM
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And there are plenty of people who fail to inhibit them and act out. I'd say most acts of violence come from that.

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Leebo86
10/03/11 8:38:00 AM
#31:


And yeah, our brain is subject to it too. Optical illusions are an easy way to see how our brain is functioning involuntarily a lot of the time. It's hard-wired to take the sensory information available to us and put it together in ways that should be useful to us, even when it results in a distorted perception of reality.

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Biolizard28
10/03/11 8:43:00 AM
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People like Liquid Wind are less about human's still having impulses and behavioral patterns, and instead is trying to parrot the beliefs of his favorite JRPG villain by trying to let everyone he knows know that humans are smelly, primitive apes and we all suck and should be ashamed of ourselves.

Humans are animals. Humans behave like animals do and should. This is not a negative statement.

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Liquid Wind
10/03/11 8:51:00 AM
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kefka is the only good JRPG villain and he has no real system of beliefs, he just destroys things because it amuses him. never said it was particularly terrible here either, just that humans are not "above" animals, we're consistent with animals for the most part outside of our technology and socialization(which breaks even at best, civilization frequently forces good people into doing bad things)
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The Real Truth
10/03/11 8:52:00 AM
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Well the world would definitely be in better health if we acted more like every other animal.

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neonreaper
10/03/11 8:54:00 AM
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all my organs doing their jobs, no help from me

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Biolizard28
10/03/11 8:56:00 AM
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The Real Truth posted...
Well the world would definitely be in better health if we acted more like every other animal.

No.

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Vlado
10/03/11 8:59:00 AM
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3DSRage posted...
Vlado - we aren't really above animals, we (you) are just deluded enough to think that we are. We still act on impulse, just like an animal, but only at a more fabric level. You may think you have a "choice" but what truly brought you to your decision isn't really something you distinctively chose.

You are merely a product of nature, so don't go thinking that you are truly the hands behind the puppet. You are still just A PUPPPPPPEEEEEETTT!!!


We control nature to a great extent. That says enough.

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SovietOmega
10/03/11 9:06:00 AM
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http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2356#comic

but yes, it is a nice thought. even more scary is that the very actions we think we have conscious will over are apparently triggered .4 milliseconds before we think the thoughts (or something along those lines).

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Vlado
10/03/11 9:08:00 AM
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SovietOmega posted...
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2356#comic

You do realise that that comic is meant to be humourous, correct?

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pjbasis
10/03/11 9:09:00 AM
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It just means our "conscious will" is really a reaction to the decisions we really made.

It doesn't mean we're robots or something. Just that we have desires we will act upon no matter what.
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Leebo86
10/03/11 9:10:00 AM
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Vlado, what does it mean to you that we are "above animals". Are you just saying that we're the most intelligent?

Animal intelligence is on a spectrum. Just because we are on one end of it, doesn't mean we aren't part of the spectrum.

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Leebo86
10/03/11 9:11:00 AM
#42:


Vlado posted...
SovietOmega posted...
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2356#comic

You do realise that that comic is meant to be humourous, correct?


It being humorous doesn't invalidate anything it's saying.

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SovietOmega
10/03/11 9:12:00 AM
#43:


Vlado posted...
SovietOmega posted...
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2356#comic

You do realise that that comic is meant to be humourous, correct?


it fit the theme of the topic? what does the level of humor involved have to do with anything?

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Vlado
10/03/11 9:12:00 AM
#44:


Sure, you can take it as a spectrum. If the end of it (humans) are infinity times better than second place.

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Vlado
10/03/11 9:13:00 AM
#45:


Leebo86 posted...
Vlado posted...
SovietOmega posted...
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2356#comic

You do realise that that comic is meant to be humourous, correct?

It being humorous doesn't invalidate anything it's saying.


Let me spell it out for you: It's saying nonsense because it's funny.

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Leebo86
10/03/11 9:14:00 AM
#46:


Vlado posted...
Sure, you can take it as a spectrum. If the end of it (humans) are infinity times better than second place.

I imagine the closest on the spectrum would be the many close relatives of homo sapiens between us and our common ancestor with the other apes.

And while they were less intelligent, they were not "infinitely" less intelligent. Whatever that means.

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SovietOmega
10/03/11 9:15:00 AM
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Vlado posted...
Leebo86 posted...
Vlado posted...
SovietOmega posted...
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2356#comic

You do realise that that comic is meant to be humourous, correct?

It being humorous doesn't invalidate anything it's saying.

Let me spell it out for you: It's saying nonsense because it's funny.


the body doesn't do things against the better interests of itself because it has been programmed with certain biological protocols? what an odd world you live in vlado!

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pjbasis
10/03/11 9:16:00 AM
#48:


Why are you so sure?

Science doesn't really support that humans are infinity times smarter, at least in no way that a dolphin isn't also infinity times smarter than a butterfly.
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Leebo86
10/03/11 9:18:00 AM
#49:


Vlado posted...
Let me spell it out for you: It's saying nonsense because it's funny.

No, it isn't. Are you a biology denier or something?

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BlackMetalex
10/03/11 9:30:00 AM
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Look when other animals start making documentaries about us, then you can claim that we're not above them, but until then, I don't see what's so hard to grasp about the fact that while sure, we function the same way as animals and still have instincts, our consciousness is operating on a level above the decision making of other animals.
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