Board 8 > I really hope the 13 Sept. Nintendo announcement is about a 2DS/redesign

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iGenesis
09/05/11 12:13:00 PM
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Clearly the 3DS has a lot of issues: the crappy battery life, the screens scratching each other problem, the lack of dual analog sticks...

From a business perspective, it's far better for Nintendo to admit the problem NOW and make those necessary fixes while it's still early. The "Ambassadors" already got their NES ROMs, so Nintendo should not be restrained in their future business tactics just to appease a small minority of early adapters...who, I might add, knew the risks of early adaptation but willingly took them anyway.

And a 2DS, priced around $100, would easily double Nintendo's userbase overnight, assuming that they solve the other problem: lack of high-quality, original, innovative games.

"but hurr theres a 3d SLIDER u can use 2 turn off the 3D!!!!1111"

There's no reason I should have to PAY for something I will NEVER use. Considering that the 3D parallax barrier is the console's most expensive component, a 2DS would make the console more affordable for those who simply do not care about 3D. Iwata has said no game will ever require 3D to progress so that's not a problem either.

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GranzonEx
09/05/11 12:14:00 PM
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The 2DS would not be around $100. Can't go lower than $150.
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WazzupGenius00
09/05/11 12:14:00 PM
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screens scratching each other? never heard of that before.

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HeroDelTiempo17
09/05/11 12:16:00 PM
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From: WazzupGenius00 | #003
screens scratching each other? never heard of that before.


It was a problem with launch 3DS models, but it's already been fixed IIRC.

Also this would backfire if any games were made where the 3D is integral to the experience somehow. Suddenly, there's a game you can't play!

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whatisurnameplz
09/05/11 12:18:00 PM
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Who would buy a 2DS?

People would just think it as an inferior version of the 3DS.

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HeroDelTiempo17
09/05/11 12:21:00 PM
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From: whatisurnameplz | #005
Who would buy a 2DS?

People would just think it as an inferior version of the 3DS.


Even worse, they'd probably think that it is yet one of the four old DS models that they probably even own one of.

Because a lot of people seem to already think that about the 3DS!

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Wanglicious
09/05/11 12:22:00 PM
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...yeah uh... the battery life isn't horrible if you move down the brightness, it's decent. hell, turn off wi-fi too and it starts being pretty good and solid. could be better sure (and there's a third party battery that's bigger which doubles the job), but as long as you aren't maxing out everything that drains it, you'll be fine and can pull a good 5 hours out of it. never had a problem with 'screens scratching each other' though because uh, they can't. you might get something about the rubber lines on the bottom appearing on the top but they really shouldn't be scratching ever, just wipe 'em off. and lacking dual analog is quite alright as it's not necessary to play a lot of games with 'em. helps for some genres, but not needed for most. honestly the 3DS doesn't really have any real physical problems going for it. no sense to redesign it now either.

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MarvelousGerbil
09/05/11 12:26:00 PM
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From: whatisurnameplz | #005
Who would buy a 2DS?

People would just think it as an inferior version of the 3DS.


I'd rather buy a "2DS" than a 3DS if it's cheaper and has the problems fixed. If I ever do buy a 3DS it'll never have the 3D on anyway.

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Wanglicious
09/05/11 12:28:00 PM
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a lot of people go 'it won't have the 3D on!'

then they turn it on, play for a while like that, try to go back, and realize it actually did make a difference.

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MarvelousGerbil
09/05/11 12:30:00 PM
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From: Wanglicious | #009
a lot of people go 'it won't have the 3D on!'

then they turn it on, play for a while like that, try to go back, and realize it actually did make a difference.


I have astigmatism in both eyes. 3D movies make my eyes water for the first 30 minutes. I assure you, I won't have the 3D on.

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Liquid Wind
09/05/11 12:31:00 PM
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3D also gives a lot of people headaches, honestly I know more people who hate 3D than actually like it
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pjbasis
09/05/11 12:51:00 PM
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Getting rid of 3D isn't the answer.

Making it better is.
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Zachnorn
09/05/11 12:53:00 PM
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3D also gives a lot of people headaches, honestly I know more people who hate 3D than actually like it

I think that is the reason why I am seeing more movie ads say "in 3D and 2D" now. I don't remember them advertising 2D on 3D movies until recently. There has to be a reason for them to make it obvious that there is a 2D version of the movie, and I am thinking it is because they see some people being annoyed with 3D.

Or maybe I am just overthinking it.

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TheRock1525
09/05/11 12:55:00 PM
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I don't get why people b**** about the 3D. Games can be played with or without, and some people enjoy the 3D experience. It's not like these games are designed where they can ONLY be played in 3D.

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Liquid Wind
09/05/11 12:56:00 PM
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I don't get why people b**** about the 3D. Games can be played with or without, and some people enjoy the 3D experience. It's not like these games are designed where they can ONLY be played in 3D.

because you still have to pay extra for it, hence why a "2DS" could be a good idea
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pjbasis
09/05/11 12:58:00 PM
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Again, the real problem is people disliking 3D.

It just shows the technology isn't there yet, when 3D could potentially be seen as a better experience.
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Zachnorn
09/05/11 12:58:00 PM
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I have astigmatism in both eyes. 3D movies make my eyes water for the first 30 minutes. I assure you, I won't have the 3D on.

I have astigmatism in one eye and 3D is really hit and miss for me. The only 3D things that have worked for me are 3D shows (I mean short things up to 15 minutes long, never saw anything in 3D for longer) and the 3DS for a short amount of time. Everything else either makes me confused or gives me headaches, if it works at all. I am also not much of a fan of 3D.

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Haguile
09/05/11 12:59:00 PM
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From: Liquid Wind | Posted: 9/5/2011 3:56:49 PM | #015
I don't get why people b**** about the 3D. Games can be played with or without, and some people enjoy the 3D experience. It's not like these games are designed where they can ONLY be played in 3D.

because you still have to pay extra for it, hence why a "2DS" could be a good idea


It could be a pretty good idea, but they would need some decent marketing. They are already having trouble convincing people that the 3DS is not just a DS with 3D attached to it. It would take...a serious ad campaign to explain what the hell the 2DS is to the general public.

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TheRock1525
09/05/11 12:59:00 PM
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Liquid Wind posted...
I don't get why people b**** about the 3D. Games can be played with or without, and some people enjoy the 3D experience. It's not like these games are designed where they can ONLY be played in 3D.

because you still have to pay extra for it, hence why a "2DS" could be a good idea


You're paying $80 less than you were before. The system now shares the same price point as a DSi XL.

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pjbasis
09/05/11 1:00:00 PM
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ITT deaf people saying books > movies cause they can't hear the sound.
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GuessMyUserName
09/05/11 1:01:00 PM
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From: Liquid Wind | Posted: 9/5/2011 3:56:49 PM | #015
because you still have to pay extra for it, hence why a "2DS" could be a good idea


you are absolutely insane if you believe taking out the paralax barrier is going to make a big impact on the price

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SupremeZero
09/05/11 1:01:00 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Liquid Wind posted...
I don't get why people b**** about the 3D. Games can be played with or without, and some people enjoy the 3D experience. It's not like these games are designed where they can ONLY be played in 3D.

because you still have to pay extra for it, hence why a "2DS" could be a good idea

You're paying $80 less than you were before. The system now shares the same price point as a DSi XL.


... and?

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Grand Kirby
09/05/11 1:03:00 PM
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I don't believe it's a good business strategy to sell a model of your product that completely removes its main selling point just because a few people wouldn't use it.

Or maybe they should sell a version without speakers? After all, there has to be some people who always play with the volume off. And it's not like you need to listen to most games when you play them.

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TheRock1525
09/05/11 1:05:00 PM
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Grand Kirby posted...
I don't believe it's a good business strategy to sell a model of your product that completely removes its main selling point just because a few people wouldn't use it.

Or maybe they should sell a version without speakers? After all, there has to be some people who always play with the volume off. And it's not like you need to listen to most games when you play them.


I don't need a damn thumbstick! All I need is a control pad!

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TheRock1525
09/05/11 1:09:00 PM
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whatisurnameplz posted...
If someone's mom goes into a game store to buy a DS for her son, will she pick the obviously inferior 2DS, or the obviously superior 3DS?

The general population (most of which don't even know that the 3DS isn't a DS) will pick the obviously superior system.


Actually, the more accurate assumption is that the mom buys whichever one is cheaper (I assume the 2DS), and the kid throws a temper-tantrum because he wanted the 3DS.

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whatisurnameplz
09/05/11 1:09:00 PM
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If someone's mom goes into a game store to buy a DS for her son, will she pick the obviously inferior 2DS, or the obviously superior 3DS?

The general population (most of which don't even know that the 3DS isn't a DS) will pick the obviously superior system.

edit: and like someone said, I don't see how the general population can get hyped up for a 2DS. I mean, the name doesn't sound cool at all.

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SupremeZero
09/05/11 1:11:00 PM
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whatisurnameplz posted...
If someone's mom goes into a game store to buy a DS for her son, will she pick the obviously inferior 2DS, or the obviously superior 3DS?

The general population (most of which don't even know that the 3DS isn't a DS) will pick the obviously superior system.

edit: and like someone said, I don't see how the general population can get hyped up for a 2DS. I mean, the name doesn't sound cool at all.


... If someone's mom goes into a game store to buy a system for her son, will she pick the obviously cheaper 2DS, or the obviously more expensive 3DS?

... hell, why would someone's mom know that the 3DS is superior anyway?

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whatisurnameplz
09/05/11 1:13:00 PM
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From: SupremeZero | #027
... If someone's mom goes into a game store to buy a system for her son, will she pick the obviously cheaper 2DS, or the obviously more expensive 3DS?

... hell, why would someone's mom know that the 3DS is superior anyway?


Are you even educated?

Do you even know that 3 > 2?

That's like saying that the PS3 and PS2 are the same.

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TheRock1525
09/05/11 1:15:00 PM
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Well, to further analyze this analogy, more than likely a mother with little to no understanding of gaming is going to buy exactly what the kid asked for. If the kid said 3DS, she'll buy a 3DS. She's unlikely to try and interpret what the kid is saying as anything other than exactly what he said.

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SupremeZero
09/05/11 1:16:00 PM
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SupremeZero
09/05/11 1:19:00 PM
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SupremeZero posted...
whatisurnameplz posted...
From: SupremeZero | #027
... If someone's mom goes into a game store to buy a system for her son, will she pick the obviously cheaper 2DS, or the obviously more expensive 3DS?

... hell, why would someone's mom know that the 3DS is superior anyway?
Are you even educated?

Do you even know that 3 > 2?

That's like saying that the PS3 and PS2 are the same.


Just how high an opinion do you have here of an average housewife...?

TheRock1525 posted...
Well, to further analyze this analogy, more than likely a mother with little to no understanding of gaming is going to buy exactly what the kid asked for. If the kid said 3DS, she'll buy a 3DS. She's unlikely to try and interpret what the kid is saying as anything other than exactly what he said.

The original analogy was DS, though. So logically, she'd buy a DS lite (or an original DS if she managed to find one).

... hmmm. That was interesting. Why'd it do that?

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YetAnothrShadow
09/05/11 1:29:00 PM
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iGenesis posted...


"but hurr theres a 3d SLIDER u can use 2 turn off the 3D!!!!1111"


Everytime I see someone blow off an argument by doing this I wanna just slap them across the face for acting like such immature children.

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pjbasis
09/05/11 1:30:00 PM
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