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So Recettear is rather fun. Except the little girl customers. They can go die in a fire with their poverty.

(should i do a playthrough topic y/n)

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they are not the worst thing you have to fear, and will get better over time. just sell for the asking price or a little above. hell, maybe a bit below to start.

and y on the playthrough idea ^_^

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200,000 is due for me today, and I have 4 time periods and 140,000


I don't think I can make it

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don't ever bother with dungeons until the debt is paid off. Best advice you can possibly get

and yeah little girls are only the third worst customers in the game, maybe fourth

you never know, plum.

a few things of note: keeping yourself in the middle of the shop grid thingy will attract the most customers iirc, as some like particular looks more than others.

if you DO fail to repay debt, all is not lost, as you can restart with all your items and merchant levels.

also, dungeon diving isn't recommended when trying to pay the debt off, as the rewards aren't too impressive early on, and spending time making them impressive eats into profit time. certainly worth exploring a bit though, as you get free items essentially.

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The worst is that stupid art dealer.

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So Recettear is rather fun. Except the little girl customers. They can go die in a fire with their poverty.

(should i do a playthrough topic y/n)

Book sale, 20 girls come in, sold like 10-15 books for 30+k

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WazzupGenius00 posted...
don't ever bother with dungeons until the debt is paid off. Best advice you can possibly get

and yeah little girls are only the third worst customers in the game, maybe fourth

But dungeons are fun! How else am I supposed to get good stuff, buy things from the guild/idiotic customers who don't realize how much their items are worth?

and auuuugh people worse than the little girls that sounds painful.

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Tag. Bought this yesterday, about to fail to meet the 200k target. By a LONG way, too.

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Good game.

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Actually, if you can do all of Jade Way your first time entering it's worth it to run 2-3 times in the very first week. Then you have a pretty huge base of items that would take a lot longer to get buying and selling from scratch, and you can grow exponentially from there.

i tend to do the dungeon stuff on a secondary playthrough to unlock new characters.

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to get good stuff faster, aim for getting a lot of combo chains to get lots of exp to raise merchant level to get new tiers of items. this is one reason to have a balanced shop grid thingy, as more people = more buying/selling = more exp.

as i have posted in other topics, the game feels like 85% shop and 15% dungeon pre debt payed off, and 85% dungeon 15% shop afterwards.

there is a recettear wiki too, so if you are unclear about a mechanic (and there are a number of hidden mechanics at work, like customer affection/spending money), it is a good resource.

http://recettear.wikia.com/wiki/Recettear_Wiki

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Is there a reason why someone would put in an advance order and not come back? I kept the damn shop open all day for the first guy I promised an advance order to and he never showed up.

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Are you sure you had the right day? Or maybe you reloaded a save and didn't realize you didn't have an order anymore? I've never heard of a customer not coming for an advance order. You can talk to Tear to see all your advance orders and what day they're for.

I didn't see that you could check the outstanding orders there. He said on day 18 that he wanted 2 treasures in 2 days. Shouldn't that have been day 20? Either way he's apparently coming on day 21.

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I actually beat the game a while ago, but after paying off the debt, it seemed kind of pointless to continue with no defined goal other than "make money."

It's a shame. I'll never know what happens to the purple haired chick with the spear who can't follow directions.

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I actually beat the game a while ago, but after paying off the debt, it seemed kind of pointless to continue with no defined goal other than "make money."

It's a shame. I'll never know what happens to the purple haired chick with the spear who can't follow directions.

unlocking and beating all dungeons (where much of the 'story' is), completing the rare item thingy (where much of the 'rage over monsters not dropping stuff' is).

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Yeah there's plenty of progression in Endless Mode after the debt is paid off.

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I beat the Obsidian Tower, but that was already pretty hard and it seemed like it'd be a lot of grinding for ingredients and levels, or slow paced 5-floor runs with food brought in to advance much further.

Same thing happened for me with Disgaea <_<

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I actually beat the game a while ago, but after paying off the debt, it seemed kind of pointless to continue with no defined goal other than "make money."

It's a shame. I'll never know what happens to the purple haired chick with the spear who can't follow directions.

unlocking and beating all dungeons (where much of the 'story' is), completing the rare item thingy (where much of the 'rage over monsters not dropping stuff' is).

Oh man, really? But I hate the dungeons. I'm so awful at them. I need to play Louie because he has more defense than the others, also the others are painfully underleveled, but I'm still so awful.

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plan to get this when it goes on sale again.

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HERE THERE BE SPOILERS PROBABLY


On the last episode of Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale...!

Deadbeat dads! Loanshark fairies! Child labor! Adventurers living below the poverty line! The defeat of the King Slime! And absurdly expensive fruit!

Day 6
Current Cash: 7,744 pix
Merchant Level 3

Deciding to skip on adventuring today and actually run my store, I run down to the market to pick up new items for the store! I bought some delicious food in case some customers came in with requests, and then I dragged Tear to the Town Square, where some weird little elf kid was running after her sister. I wonder if she can become my friend/customer/indentured servant like Louie is?

Still, gotta focus on making profit, so then I went to the Merchant Guild to grab some shiny new weapons and armor for any adventurous customers, though I may have spent a bit much, since I left my shopping trip with only 884 pix left...But hey! I'll be able to turn a profit with this, no problem!

As it turns out, I had plenty of customers ask for food, and one WORTHLESS PENNY PINCHER asked about my iron armor on display, though he turned down my perfectly reasonable price! Another old man asked about the Thankful Statue I had on display, but he was too much of a cheapskate to buy it. Still, my other customers, who actually had money, bought plenty of stuff from me, bringing me to 11,104 pix! Now I've got enough to make my payment on the 8th, though if I go to the market and the Guild again, I'll still need to work hard today and tomorrow to raise funds.

Day 7
Current Cash: 11,104 pix
Merchant Level 4

Well, apparently my new Merchant Level lets me buy new things, so off to the market and the guild I go! I pick up some new armor and a steel sword, mostly in the hope that Louie will show up and get better stuff for future dungeon excursions. I also grab some books and more food, as well as a hat. Everyone loves hats! Sadly, this leaves me with a mere 1,204 pix, but hey, people will pay more for my new items, right?

Sales...aren't so hot. Louie, being poor, can't even pay me 2000 pix for the sword, and there's a stupid amount of old men who want treasures but don't want to pay decent prices for them! NOW I HATE OLD MEN MORE THAN LITTLE GIRLS. I manage to make some sales, but I need about 3,000 more pix to make the payment.

Day 8
Current Cash: 7,704 pix
Merchant Level 4

Desperate for cash, I keep the store open all day and start undercutting myself. Louie finally buys the sword for a mere 1,000, 33% of the thing's value. Still, a sale's a sale...but all these men who are out shopping for their wives and the stingy geezers don't make this easy. In the end, I'm saved by a housewife buying a bowl of beef soup, pushing me above 10,000 and boosting my Merchant Level!

Payment: 10,000 px COMPLETE

Day 9
Current Cash: 404 pix
Merchant Level 5

HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER !! And...she's kinda dumb. At least I won't have to worry about competent rivals, right? RIIIIGHT?

Annnd that's all for today. Hopefully I can somehow make double what I made this week to survive to the next payment date! But if my customers are still stingy...

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I actually beat the game a while ago, but after paying off the debt, it seemed kind of pointless to continue with no defined goal other than "make money."

It's a shame. I'll never know what happens to the purple haired chick with the spear who can't follow directions.

unlocking and beating all dungeons (where much of the 'story' is), completing the rare item thingy (where much of the 'rage over monsters not dropping stuff' is).

Oh man, really? But I hate the dungeons. I'm so awful at them. I need to play Louie because he has more defense than the others, also the others are painfully underleveled, but I'm still so awful.

louie is just about the worst. average character, but painfully limited. charme raeps dungeons with speed and only takes a few dungeons to get leveled well (hell, at first, leveling up was how i healed her). and mage boy pretty much raeps bosses with his spam happy spells. the other characters all have their pros and cons too, but those two are great for grinding stuff. as far as equipment goes, just set out a bunch of the highest stuff you have for them in the shop, eventually they will buy. failing that, bring a few key items with you to the dungeon and equip them there.

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Survival Hell

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Day 9
Current Cash: 404 pix
Merchant Level 5

So! Fusion. It's nice to see it follows a recipe system rather than a "just guess and don't blame us if you waste your ingredients creating molten junk" system. I fuse some nice and expensive items that I probably won't be able to sell due to the rampant poverty and then clear the next part of the Jade Way. Easy stuff, and the boss reminded me of THE FEEEEEEEEAR with the poison mushroom mechanic.

of course, now i'm broke. Whoops~

Day 10
Current Cash: 0 pix
Merchant Level 5

Candy is up, and Louie's on the run! I stay at the shop to sell off some items, before going to the Merchant's Guild and devouring most of my profit. What a world, huh? At least I seem to be getting better at making sure my customers don't leave. The 110-120% price range seems to work pretty well most of the time.

Day 11
Current Cash: 285 pix
Merchant Level 5

Sinister items! I have no idea what those are. Oh well~ I head out to do some adventuring...and fine that the guild is closed today. Ffffffff. Sales, then! I'm getting more NearPins somehow, so that's good for my merchant level, at least! Not so much my wallet, but what can you do? I make a few sales, but I'm still below 5,000 pix. I'm gonna lose my home~

Day 12
Current Cash: 3,472 pix
Merchant Level 6

I stop by the market to grab a few odds and ends, including some new wallpaper for the shop. Hopefully it does something! After that and forcing Tear to help a little girl, it's time to finish up the Jade Way! It's a bit tougher, but at the end, I meet Charme, the lady thief and likely my next friend/indentured slave! I welcome her with a nice big sword of friendship. To the face.

Day 13
Current Cash: 642 pix
Merchant Level 6

auuuugh i need to make 30k pix in the next two days how do

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woah...110-120%? that seems a bit high. like, 105-110% is best in the beginning iirc, as you will get more near pin/just pin combos which = more exp which = more merchant levels which = better stuff faster. plus you will get more <3 above their heads which means more reputation which means they can spend more monies.

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105% is best for merchant level.

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Things get pretty tough once you get into the like 200K pix range.

Also, as for dungeons, I like using Charme, mostly because of her speed, but find Nagi and Tielle are better for those tougher bosses.

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I was fine at 115% for most customers, adjusting for little girls and that fairy. On the trendy items I think I went 250% or 300%. Not sure. The rich girl definitely pays 300%

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The Weapon Shop guy will pay upwards to 130 percent or so, maybe higher depending.
The Man will also pay around this range, not as high as the weapon shop dude
The Housewife tends to be in the 115 range or so.

Typically you have to lower a tiny bit for JUST chains.

The worst thing is that girl who comes in and sells things for outrageous prices.

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recettear rapes. i wish i could get it on steam x.x

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Rapes? Isin't she like 14 or something?

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as in, the game =p

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Bump, will probably play some tonight. Hopefully Recette won't end up living in a cardboard box!

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So I finally finished Obsidian Tower and now I'm seeing there's ANOTHER dungeon after that? WIth 100 floors? Hell no I don't have the patience for that s***

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So I finally finished Obsidian Tower and now I'm seeing there's ANOTHER dungeon after that? WIth 100 floors? Hell no I don't have the patience for that s***

If it makes you feel any better, there is another dungeon after that (spoilers: it only has 30 floors).

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Lapis Ruins still has some "story", so maybe that can motivate you a little. If you aren't enjoying the dungeons though, you probably shouldn't bother. Although


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you get a new character if you beat it.

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Day 13
Current Cash: 642 pix
Merchant Level 6

Since I lacked the funds to go purchase new supplies, I kept the shop open all day to make some sales. Unfortunately, I only made a few thousand in sales, and then a little girl foisted a treasure on me, cutting into my profits. I run over to the Merchant's Guild at night to do some restocking, but with armor and accessory prices wildly fluctuating, I'm a bit cautious with my purchases. Hopefully I'll have enough to get some good profits tomorrow, but I'm a bit doubtful.

Day 14
Current Cash: 3,428 pix
Merchant Level 6

Not much to talk about today. Got some new wood walls for the store, but they just made it even more plain than it already was. I did get a visit from Charme, though, and sold her a knife! No friendship yet, though.

Day 15
Current Cash: 5,172 pix
Merchant Level 6

the debt is due today and i need to scrounge up 25k pix i am dooomed. Still, I try and soldier my way through the day, buying supplies in the morning and opening the shop for the rest of the day. The results...

PAYMENT FAILED

And now poor Recette has to live in a cardboard box, all alone in the world, almost as if it was some sort of horrible dre-

Day 2
Current Cash: 1,000 pix
Merchant Level 7

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Don't mind your failure too much. it's not a big deal. I failed on the week 3 payment when I played it, then it was pretty much smooth sailing for the second try. Those extra merchant levels and customer levels, as well as your stock that carries over make it much easier.

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I won first try, but that's party because I kept getting things like "metal object boom!".

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Luck plays some part in it, but the main reason why I failed was because I followed Tear's advice. Haggling for max profit is NOT the way to get the payment done. It's almost like Tear is actively trying to get you to fail.

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Wow, you get to keep your stuff if you fail to make the payment? Good to know. Just made my first one. Yay!

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BT with the victory!

My 30k payment was cleared with a great deal of ease and my 80k payment (3 days away) is more than covered at this point.

Avoiding the dungeons isn't a good piece of advice in my opinion. They provide you with too many things worth selling. You just shouldn't leave them while your adventurer is still good to go for more (which probably won't be the first time you send them down the Jade Path). Tossing slime fluids and crap like that is totally worth it if your adventurer can go another 5-10 floors (or provide better items to sell). And since it only takes half a day to explore a dungeon, no matter how many levels you explore, you can get so many good items at "no cost" that you shouldn't leave unless there's absolutely no way to make it another 5 levels.

Of course, I'm only 18 days in, so we'll see what we learn from there.
My experience is that if you just eat all your healing items (yay! a game where items matter in battles) and push as far as you can, you'll emerge with a lot to sell and those items will be high pix earners.

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BT with the victory!

I've been playing more recently to try to get everyones "True" cards so I can tackle survival mode with some cushion.

In general, you should not have too much trouble making payments until the 200K one or so if you level up enough (to get fusion items) Some fusion items are very easy to make and can net a ton of profit (especially early ones). It's important to expand your store too (if you havn't) because more tables=more customers.

Also, if you want to avoid little girls you can set your store to dark, as they will be more likely to avoid this. (Too bad the heretic set is the best for "dark" and it's pretty pricey).

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My 30k payment was cleared with a great deal of ease and my 80k payment (3 days away) is more than covered at this point.

Avoiding the dungeons isn't a good piece of advice in my opinion. They provide you with too many things worth selling. You just shouldn't leave them while your adventurer is still good to go for more (which probably won't be the first time you send them down the Jade Path). Tossing slime fluids and crap like that is totally worth it if your adventurer can go another 5-10 floors (or provide better items to sell). And since it only takes half a day to explore a dungeon, no matter how many levels you explore, you can get so many good items at "no cost" that you shouldn't leave unless there's absolutely no way to make it another 5 levels.

Of course, I'm only 18 days in, so we'll see what we learn from there.
My experience is that if you just eat all your healing items (yay! a game where items matter in battles) and push as far as you can, you'll emerge with a lot to sell and those items will be high pix earners.

It can work for the first two weeks maybe, but the amount of debt you have to pay back increases at a much faster rate than the profit you get from dungeons will increase.

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Yeah, by the 3rd week, dungeons are just not worth it at all. They take up too much time you could be using buying low and selling high.

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